The Old World - who built those magnificent structures found everywhere?

[Raskolnikov]

This is my first post. I've been fascinated by the research digging up old photos of the old world, photos that clearly prove there was a worldwide civilization that erected impressive structures that dwarf our own in size, masonic knowledge and ornate beauty, not to mention the grid systems and ports they constructed. Would love any further leads on this topic. I don't know if someone's already posted on this subject but this video really impressed me. The massive structures that go on for miles at the end was supposedly the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. It's a pleasant viewing put to some nice classical music - enjoy:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-V0-5KAjbm4

My wife and I really love the JonLevi channel on YT, he's got an excellent delivery and a dry sense of humor and he and his subscribers find excellent material that contradicts the known historical narrative (some excellent photos of star forts in this one):

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K7rZ3-Fbjf0

[Bill Ryan]

A warm welcome to the forum! We're delighted to have you with us.

We have a new thread here that might be interesting:

• Starforts and Other Ancient Anomalies

Jay Weidner, reported on this thread, has discussed the interesting issue of the World's Fairs in the 19th century: (but his videos also address numerous other topics)

• REALiTY CHeCK with Jay Weidner

And finally, in the Avalon section titled Archeology and Anthropology, there are many threads (probably hundreds!) about ancient megalithic stone structures, their builders, and associated topics.

Enjoy!

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
A warm welcome to the forum! We're delighted to have you with us.

We have a new thread here that might be interesting:

• Starforts and Other Ancient Anomalies

Jay Weidner, reported on this thread, has discussed the interesting issue of the World's Fairs in the 19th century: (but his videos also address numerous other topics)

• REALiTY CHeCK with Jay Weidner

And finally, in the Avalon section titled Archeology and Anthropology, there are many threads (probably hundreds!) about ancient megalithic stone structures, their builders, and associated topics.

Enjoy!

Thanks Bill. Yes, I guess this post could've gone under archeology and anthropology but I'm really interested in our lost history and the lies continually fed to us in our historical narrative. Seems if we can't replicate such structures today then they were most likely built by another civilization, another more advanced civilization, and one that covered the "globe", because these buildings have been found in nearly every country. It's a fascinating topic to me so thanks for the leads.

[Nasu]

Fascinating footage of old stuff. Only the other day I remarked that our current systems are sh!t compared to the same systems of a hundred years ago. Sure they were not perfect by any means. But in terms of logistics they outmatched us in so many ways.

For example, with all our technology and electronics and so called modern advancements, our postal system is far less superior than the Victorian postal system, at least in the US and Uk. Back then they had two posts a day including Saturday. By many measurable metrics that time seemed a pinnacle of human society.

Thanks for the post, as firsts go it’s a good one…….x……. N

[onawah]

Crypto Alchemist is fairly new to me, but he is one of a group of nerdy people who are studying ancient archeology like starforts, pyramids, ancient technology and other arcane subjects, not limited by academic strictures, but including academic research.
Here are some of the their past and/or recent video discussions:
@dutchsinse & @burneye #RealScience 1st Meeting- Terraforming Talk + #tartaria #starfort #Alchemy
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
8.2K views Streamed 1 month ago

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lNHt6IAKoYM

Pyramids, Geoglyphology, and the world wide Grid! Pt2 - Autodidactic Alchemist
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
484 views 2/26/23 #Antiquitech #xrp #FreeEnergy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rq9hnc_1gl4

@tartariantruthtv @TartarianTruth @ancienHistoria Vikings, King Arthur, Gog Mogog, Tartaria & more!
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
811 views 21/26/23
Antiquitech #xrp #FreeEnergy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k4tcNpTZEec

Pyramids, Are We Looking in the Wrong Place? - w/ Ancient Historia Live Stream
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
797 views Live Streamed 2/26/23

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zEhud9rwG5I

upcoming:
Pyramids, Are We Looking in the Wrong Place w Ancient Historia pyramids
Premieres Mar 11, 2023 #Antiquitech #xrp #FreeEnergy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YdD1dtFEQbU

@AlienScientist Meets @DutchSinse #RealScience by @Xirtus & @BurnEye @CryptoAlchemist369
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
Scheduled for Mar 11, 2023
"The Legendary #ShadowBanned Youtubers, jeremy Rys the @AlienScientist Meets Youtuber Living Enigma! & Future Seer! EarthQuake Forecaster
One & Only @DUTCHSINSE
Maybe they didn't even know each others existed due to shadowbanning
But @BurnEye is bring them together with @Xirtus for ssome #realScience"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zk2c92cDg1o

(There are a few other sources for info re Starforts on youtube, a most fascinating subject! Dutchsinse has been getting into that subject recently and he is an excellent researcher, well known for his accurate earthquake predictions.)

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by Nasu (here)
Fascinating footage of old stuff. Only the other day I remarked that our current systems are sh!t compared to the same systems of a hundred years ago. Sure they were not perfect by any means. But in terms of logistics they outmatched us in so many ways.

For example, with all our technology and electronics and so called modern advancements, our postal system is far less superior than the Victorian postal system, at least in the US and Uk. Back then they had two posts a day including Saturday. By many measurable metrics that time seemed a pinnacle of human society.

Thanks for the post, as firsts go it’s a good one…….x……. N

Thanks Nasu. You know, actually, posting on this forum is a little intimidating and quite an honor. I woke up in 2008 thanks to Dolores Cannon, and really got into the Project Camelot interviews and have been visiting this site and reading the posts for over a decade, so if I forgot to say it in my intro, "Hi everyone, and thank you for all the great work you've been doing over the years. It's been great fire for the mind and food for the soul to find a site with such insightful, free, and truthful spirits. Stoked to be here and a part of it."

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by onawah (here)
Crypto Alchemist is fairly new to me, but he is one of a group of nerdy people who are studying ancient archeology like starforts, pyramids, ancient technology and other arcane subjects, not limited by academic strictures, but including academic research.
Here are some of the their past and/or recent video discussions:
@dutchsinse & @burneye #RealScience 1st Meeting- Terraforming Talk + #tartaria #starfort #Alchemy
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
8.2K views Streamed 1 month ago

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lNHt6IAKoYM

Pyramids, Geoglyphology, and the world wide Grid! Pt2 - Autodidactic Alchemist
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
484 views 2/26/23 #Antiquitech #xrp #FreeEnergy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rq9hnc_1gl4

@tartariantruthtv @TartarianTruth @ancienHistoria Vikings, King Arthur, Gog Mogog, Tartaria & more!
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
811 views 21/26/23
Antiquitech #xrp #FreeEnergy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k4tcNpTZEec

Pyramids, Are We Looking in the Wrong Place? - w/ Ancient Historia Live Stream
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
797 views Live Streamed 2/26/23

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zEhud9rwG5I

upcoming:
Pyramids, Are We Looking in the Wrong Place w Ancient Historia pyramids
Premieres Mar 11, 2023 #Antiquitech #xrp #FreeEnergy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YdD1dtFEQbU

@AlienScientist Meets @DutchSinse #RealScience by @Xirtus & @BurnEye @CryptoAlchemist369
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
Scheduled for Mar 11, 2023
"The Legendary #ShadowBanned Youtubers, jeremy Rys the @AlienScientist Meets Youtuber Living Enigma! & Future Seer! EarthQuake Forecaster
One & Only @DUTCHSINSE
Maybe they didn't even know each others existed due to shadowbanning
But @BurnEye is bring them together with @Xirtus for ssome #realScience"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zk2c92cDg1o

(There are a few other sources for info re Starforts on youtube, a most fascinating subject! Dutchsinse has been getting into that subject recently and he is an excellent researcher, well known for his accurate earthquake predictions.)

Wow, thanks onawah, looks like I've got some research to do. Appreciate your input and helpful leads.

[rgray222]

It is almost always too late once people realize that the magnificence is gone. Grand architecture is important to the human psyche and has been since the dawn of time. It has been quietly and systematically removed from society over the last few decades, especially in the west. There are a few wonderful buildings going up but they are few and far between. The majority of the creative and wonderful new architecture is coming out of China. There have been some grand efforts around the world that have fallen flat that will amount to nothing more than a flash in the pan when measured over hundreds of years such as Dubai, Abu Dhabi etc.

Grand architecture in the USA has been blatantly removed and it is very intentional. Most of the new government buildings resemble communist designs at their worst. It is sad but true.

To say that something is too expensive to do today is really code for we don't have the will, the desire, or the know-how. People have lost the belief that anything the mind can conceive the body can achieve.

Notre Dame Cathredral - Strasbourg, France

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting hour on starforts from Jay Weidner:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rU1s97CRPXI

[Pam]

Welcome to the forum, I see you are interested in the ancient history of man and it's civilizations. You might find this site very interesting. It is a refreshing perspective of the historical record, the lies and deceptions and ultimately a possible explanation of the nature of our reality. The interesting thing about the chronology here is that it was obtained and interpreted by old books, without the biases of current culture and the internet. That is because the guy reading and interpreting the historical chronology was in a Texas Maximum security prison from the age of 17 till the year 2016. So that pulls him out of so much programming. (I can also see some of his prison culture programming coming out, so no one escapes programming) At least he did not have a lot of access to our current paradigms. The other thing, he had lots and lots of time to be without distraction or responsibilities to piece a bigger picture together.

In the prison system he had access to lots of old books and he began to piece together the chronological history of man, with the idea of confirming and supporting his belief in Christianity. He ended up drawing other conclusions, which was very disheartening for him. I believe you will find it fascinating even if you don't draw the same conclusions. I am not promoting or dismissing him in any way. What I will say, he is definitely one of the most independent thinkers I have ever listened to.

https://archaix.com

[Raskolnikov]

Thanks guys! Keep it coming! Fantastic photo rgray222. The more I research and discover, the more I become convinced that old cathedrals were power centers, or some kind of resonate energy generators. They had an excellent knowledge of cymatics and sacred geometry as seen in the windows and ancient patterns in the floors and walls and even in the architecture itself, especially the truly ancient ones. Even the star forts (I hate to call them forts because that lends to the military/war theory which is clearly bs), massive and mindbending structures that in some cases make up whole towns or villages, seem to attest to the energy resonator theory - war my ass - they were things of beauty and clearly had a purpose! And they are literally everywhere, more and more being found daily, while others have been covered up, turned into theme parks or golf courses, or outright destroyed. And thanks for the vid Bill, I love Jay Weidner's work. And thank you too Pam, great story about the guy in prison, wth else are you gonna do in such a place right? Besides plan a jail break of course! Great they had a decent library for him to work with. Love it, thanks guys.

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
An interesting hour on starforts from Jay Weidner:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rU1s97CRPXI

Thanks for the video Bill. So many great insights btw these two and great shots of the stars (not forts) as well. The Auto didactic channel looks excellent as well, he seems very knowledgeable. A beautiful serendipitous moment at the end of the vid when I was perusing his other videos and Jay said, "And so everybody...check out Auto didactic channel on YouTube... if you got a snowy day - perfect to watch all of his videos." And lo and behold - it's a winter wonderland here today!

[onawah]

Dutchsinse has been looking at the planet and thinks there are starfort shapes that are actually continent sized, which definitely gives more reason to speculate about this paradigm we are living in as being a "simulation".
Hopefully his next conversation with Crypo Alchemist will be delving more into that.

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)

Posted by onawah (here)

(There are a few other sources for info re Starforts on youtube, a most fascinating subject! Dutchsinse has been getting into that subject recently and he is an excellent researcher, well known for his accurate earthquake predictions.)

Wow, thanks onawah, looks like I've got some research to do. Appreciate your input and helpful leads.

(BTW, when "Replying with Quote", it is best to delete videos etc. so they don't get posted repeatedly and unnecessarily on the forum, taking up a lot of space.)

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by onawah (here)
Dutchsinse has been looking at the planet and thinks there are starfort shapes that are actually continent sized, which definitely gives more reason to speculate about this paradigm we are living in as being a "simulation".
Hopefully his next conversation with Crypo Alchemist will be delving more into that.

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)

Posted by onawah (here)

(There are a few other sources for info re Starforts on youtube, a most fascinating subject! Dutchsinse has been getting into that subject recently and he is an excellent researcher, well known for his accurate earthquake predictions.)

Wow, thanks onawah, looks like I've got some research to do. Appreciate your input and helpful leads.

(BTW, when "Replying with Quote", it is best to delete videos etc. so they don't get posted repeatedly and unnecessarily on the forum, taking up a lot of space.)

Yeah, thanks for the tip onawah, new to all this stuff, never been good with rules, made to be broken right? If I can figure out how to do that I most definitely will, not much of a tech nerd, more of a truth and big picture nerd, just like to get it out, like making music, love to play but don't have the patience for all the tech stuff in order to learn how to record, just want to create.

Like the Dutchsinse info about continent sized starforts, makes one want to think bigger about energy grids throughout the cosmos...

[onawah]

It's easy to do. After you click on "reply with quote" a box will open up with the post you want to reply to.
You just highlight the unnecessary part of that post and delete it, leaving the part that you are responding to, then add your reply at the top of that box.
There is a subforum with lots of tech info for the forum and it's pretty easy to negotiate:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/for...-Technical-Q-A
And welcome to Avalon!

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)

Posted by onawah (here)

(BTW, when "Replying with Quote", it is best to delete videos etc. so they don't get posted repeatedly and unnecessarily on the forum, taking up a lot of space.)

Yeah, thanks for the tip onawah, new to all this stuff, never been good with rules, made to be broken right? If I can figure out how to do that I most definitely will, not much of a tech nerd, more of a truth and big picture nerd, just like to get it out, like making music, love to play but don't have the patience for all the tech stuff in order to learn how to record, just want to create.

[CurEus]

For those that plan on going down this rabbit hole useful search terms are Tartaria and Mudflood.

The premise being that

1. Our historical timeline has been altered by many hundreds of years
2. There was a global civilization whose architecture and technology has been co-opted for our use or destroyed by planned fires ( world fairs) major portions of cities, burried tunnel systems etc
3. Evidence is bountiful and most "notable" when one sees 1/2 buried windows in "histrical" buildings...that is the "mudflood" ( likely earth liquifaction) the buildings extend well below the surface throughout Europe and N. America and the same architectural style is also found in Asia. Constructed WELL before "Western" contact.
4. Massive transport of "orphans" to the "new world" to populate these cities via secret societies
5.. A lot of N. American capital cities were "empty" when "founded with enormous structures already in place with tiny settler populating living in shack being credited with the erection and construction of these extraordinary buildings, monuments, santiariums, "museums" and estate houses/mansions

It is a fun hypothesis and relatively novel especially if like me you're bored to tears with UAP "disclosure", Spaceforce, so researching an era that had flight, free electricity, was global in scope that is RIGHT under our noses and feet is fun.

Archaeologists are constantly stumbling across cities under cities with their argument being, well each civilization just built on top of the previous one....Okay, so how did they raise the street up 30 ft in the air and WHY do the stairs start 30 feet BELOW street level with windows........?

Many may NOT be aware but when on sanctioned digs archaeologists are only "allowed" to dig so deep...one cannot just go excavate 300 feet ona whim or a hunch. Some places like Italy or Greece, it is "expected" to "find" something even just digging a road or a trench BUT do NOT try that in Egypt. in the UK with the proposed stonehenge roadworks...there are certain to be surprises, but we won't learn about it. I'd turn the area into an open pit mine and still keep digging!

[Brigantia]

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
Thanks guys! Keep it coming!

If you would like a big archive of research you could take a look at Stolen History. I browse there but I'm not a member as I find it not as polite as PA, but don't let that put you off as it is an extensive resource. Here's a link to their starfort collection of threads.

https://stolenhistory.net/forums/general.72/

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by CurEus (here)
It is a fun hypothesis and relatively novel especially if like me you're bored to tears with UAP "disclosure", Spaceforce, so researching an era that had flight, free electricity, was global in scope that is RIGHT under our noses and feet is fun.

Agreed! The continued discovery of what our, in all likelihood, recent past contained is fascinating, more and more keeps coming to light like that great clip of the 1893 Chicago World's Fair in the "Realize what you lost" vid above. Old maps show Chicago as a central port when entering this continent from the Atlantic so it would make sense that they made the city magnificent.

Thanks for your more detailed summary of this topic. The orphan trains are indeed very strange, but if there was a reset then I guess they killed off a good many people. And what about the infant incubators that were apparently at many of these World Exhibitions and Fairs?



And then there's the possibility that the numeral 1 at the beginning of 1950 or any other year in the the last millennium was in fact the letter i which stood for "the year of our lord" or something similar which points to 1000 years of fabrication and goes a long way to exposing the dark ages as a complete fabrication. So yes, like you, I find this subject fascinating and fun and truly appreciate your input. And yes, the military along with the Smithsonian and National Geographic and other federal institutions and organizations have had a huge hand in continually covering up all finds that don't jive with the narrative they desire. But it's coming brothers and sisters - an amazing time to be alive.

[Raskolnikov]

"The massive structures that go on for miles at the end was supposedly the 1893 Chicago World's Fair."

Quick correction of my first post - it appears those massive structures were from the Louisiana Purchase Exposition of 1904 in St. Louis, Missouri, also called the St. Louis World's Fair. The fair comprised more than 1,500 individual buildings interconnected by 75 miles of roads and walkways on a 1,200 acre tract. And of course the narrative says it only took three years to construct...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=i8_dloiMKd4

As an afterthought, the Statue of Liberty struck me as a metaphor for the hidden in plain sight slight of hand they love to employ to throw off the masses. A symbol of liberty to those escaping more oppressive governments, the statue quickly became the center of attention drawing the adoration of those hoping to begin a new life. But from a more elevated perspective, we begin to see a whole new picture that may in fact comprise many different civilizations, cultures and eras. It seems, as with all the old architecture being dug up and discovered today, the further down you go the older and more advanced things become. The base or pillar upon which the statue is placed is clearly from an older and more advanced civilization than the statue itself, even makes the statue appear like a cheap plaster knock off in comparison. Venture a bit further and the star fort it sits upon is quite possibly from an even older and more advanced civilization. And then if you want to take in the whole picture the entire thing is constructed upon a man-made island - and who had the know how and ability to build that? I find star forts truly amazing but compared with man-made islands, coastlines, and canals, it's no contest.



So are we in fact witnessing the cover up of multiple highly advanced civilizations by one cleverly deceptive distraction erected to pull our attention away from this fact? And then when you add that that statue is most likely a Babylonian deity whose motto was "if it feels good, do it" (sounds familiar) and a form of occult mockery, one has to wonder how deep this rabbit hole really goes.

[Raskolnikov]

Nice follow up to the first video. Something is fishy indeed...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6GOkgX1SQ