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    Will We See Another Kennedy in the White House?
    by Dr. Joseph Mercola
    March 26, 2023
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...bid=1755528035


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/nZw8jd3cJQOD/


    "STORY AT-A-GLANCE
    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. recently announced he’s considering entering the presidential race if he can garner enough support.
    To support his bid for president, visit TeamKennedy.com
    The Children’s Health Defense (CHD) and several other plaintiffs, including me, are suing the Trusted News Initiative (TNI) for violation of antitrust laws.
    The BBC has been using its market power and illegal collaboration with other leading market actors to crush smaller news outlets
    The CHD has also filed a number of First Amendment cases, including one against Facebook, which censored the CHD, Mercola.com and many other sites
    As a private company, Facebook has the right to censor anyone it wants, for any reason. However, they cannot do it at the behest of the government, and we now have ample evidence that this is precisely what they’ve been doing
    Kennedy believes if he is elected to the White House he can clean out government corruption because he knows where it is, what it stems from and how to correct it

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the author of two books. "American Values: Lessons I Learned from My Family," published in 2018, describes the Kennedys' 60-year-long fight with the CIA.

    His 2021 book, "The Real Anthony Fauci," became a runaway best seller, selling over a million copies, despite unprecedented censorship. In this interview, Kennedy, an attorney, reviews some of the lawsuits filed by Children's Health Defense (CHD), founded by Kennedy in 2018 (was World Mercury Project in 2016), and why he believes he can "drain the swamp" and clean up our federal agencies if elected president of the United States.

    The Trusted News Initiative Lawsuit
    One of the most recent lawsuits is the antitrust lawsuit against the Trusted News Initiative (TNI). I and several other journalists and news organizations that have been censored during the pandemic are also plaintiffs in this lawsuit. As explained by Kennedy:

    "The Trusted News Initiative lawsuit applies antitrust laws against this really shocking agreement made at the onset of the pandemic, initiated by the BBC.

    The BBC … is not officially a government agency. It's a government-supported network that is supposed to have walls between itself and the government, but recent scandals in Britain have exposed how closely the BBC works with the British Intelligence Agency, MI5, particularly in censoring information on certain subjects, including public health.

    This is now well-established. We don't know how much the British Intelligence Agency had to do with kicking off the TNI, but the BBC approached a dozen top news organizations in the United States, including The New York Times and The Washington Post … and the social media networks … proposing they all censor information that did not comport with government proclamations during the pandemic."

    Importantly, a memorandum by the BBC states that independent news sites are "existential competitors" and a threat to the mainstream media business model and must be crushed.

    Eliminating "competition" (which we're not) was the entire purpose behind TNI, so the basis for the lawsuit is that TNI is violating the Sherman Antitrust Act. As explained by Kennedy, the BBC is using its market power and illegal collaboration with other leading market actors to crush smaller competitors.

    First Amendment Cases
    The CHD has also filed a number of First Amendment cases, including one against Facebook, which censored the CHD and many other sites. Now, Facebook, as a private company, has the right to censor anyone it wants, for any reason.

    However, they CANNOT do it at the behest of the government. If they become government surrogates for censorship — which is what they've become — then the First Amendment, the right to free speech, is implicated.

    "What we've said is that they were taking orders from government officials," Kennedy says. "When we filed the lawsuit, we knew that was happening, but we did not have the positive proof. Now we do. We have internal memos that show Anthony Fauci collaborating on the censorship with Mark Zuckerberg.

    And we now know that Twitter had offered a portal to the FBI and CIA to censor people who did not go along with the government narrative, and that they were aggressively using it. We found emails where the White House specifically asks Twitter to censor Robert Kennedy. So, we have a number of those lawsuits out there."

    We're Fighting an Uphill Battle
    The censorship has caused many of us in independent, alternative media to lose huge amounts of money as we can no longer reach our audiences. And while Kennedy hopes to be able to recover some of these lost revenues, that alone will not effect change.

    While the U.S. government and mainstream media are clearly engaged in illegal activity, there's really no penalty for it unless you sue them, and even if you win, the punitive damages are not going to be severe enough to force a change in behavior. At best, lawsuits bring public attention to the problem and cause embarrassment, which might curtail it somewhat.

    Twitter Files Reveal the Breadth of the Illegal Collusion
    On the upside, we now know a lot about how they operate because of the Twitter files, released by Elon Musk. As noted by Kennedy, it's far worse than any of us initially suspected. For example, the FBI has a portal into social media that allows it to remove posts and accounts it doesn't like.

    "That is scary. That is against everything our country was founded on," Kennedy says. "The single most important premise was that citizens ought to be able to criticize government, which was not true for the American revolutionary generation. You could be punished for criticizing the king.

    And they said, we don't want that anymore. We're going to have free speech for all. We're going to make sure that there's a ferment, that there is a million different ideas bouncing around. And 'misinformation,' for better or worse, is constitutionally protected speech.

    There are forms of speech that are not constitutionally protected. Inciting violence is not constitutionally protected. Child pornography is not constitutionally protected … But telling a lie to somebody is. It has to be that way because once you appoint an arbiter to tell what's true and what's not true, you'll end up getting one version of truth, and it ultimately will not be the true one."

    Many Were Paid to Lie
    Indeed, if the last three years have taught us anything, it's that self-appointed "arbiters of truth" get it wrong most, if not all, of the time. And, as noted by Kennedy, the crime is not being wrong. The crime is censoring anybody who disagrees, so people never even have the opportunity to discover the error, including themselves (if ignorance is in fact the case).

    "In May 2020, I published a post that said the vaccines are going to be DOA, they're dead on arrival, because the monkey studies just came out and they don't prevent transmission," Kennedy says. "This was before the rollout.

    I was like, 'We were looking at their own monkey studies and the concentrations of COVID-19 viruses or SARS-CoV-2 viral loading in the nasopharynxes of the macaque monkeys that they had vaccinated was identical to the loading in the unvaccinated monkeys once they were exposed to the disease.'

    So, they knew at that time that this vaccine could not prevent transmission. Everybody knew that. And yet they were saying out loud, 'It can prevent transmission.' They had no right, no reason, to say that other than to fool the public.

    And then they were censoring people like me who were saying, 'Wait a minute, how's this possible? How can you possibly make this claim? Of course it's not going to prevent transmission.' So, the crime is not being wrong. Anybody can be wrong. The crime is censoring people who were right or who had alternative viewpoints that prevented them from ever getting anything right.

    Listen, if I had to predict what's going to happen now, it's very clear, this isn't a speculation. The Biden administration is trying to give the WHO [World Health Organization] these preemptive powers to declare future pandemics based upon no evidence. So, all they have to say is there's a pandemic …

    And when you declare a pandemic, not only does it give the government extraordinary powers, it gives the pharmaceutical industry immunity from liability. It gives doctors immunity from liability, which is accompanied, of course, by impunity and bad judgment. It also loosens up billions of dollars in subsidies and cash to promote the business models of those pharmaceutical companies.

    At least now, we have an independent power to say, 'We don't believe WHO and we're not going to go along with this global emergency.' Right now we're about to sign a treaty that will give that power to the WHO. So Jeremy Farrar, who was one of the masterminds of this PSYOP — he was the guy who hid the COVID coverup. He manipulated the Lancet studies. He directed all these virologists who believed that it came from a lab… to say that it didn't.

    Because of the control he has over the funding of virology and infectious disease, and biomedical research globally, he was able to marshal these core groups of virologists who just lied to us openly. And then they all got payoffs from Fauci.

    Kristian Andersen, Ph.D., got $9 million after he lied to us. Eddie Holmes got $9 million to lie. All the guys who participated in the Lancet paper and the Nature Medicine papers — the ones that were then cited by all of the journalists in the world to say it's been proven there's no such thing as a lab leak — we now have their emails.

    And all those guys believed it was a lab leak, secretly, privately … but they were telling the public it wasn't. And they all got payoffs of millions and millions of dollars."

    No Evidence to Support Childhood Vaccination Schedule
    As noted by Kennedy, the entire field of virology is basically operating as a criminal enterprise. They never have to prove anything and they're never accountable. For example, they don't have to prove that vaccines actually work, or that it's safe to take multiple vaccines at the same time.

    "By 'work,' I mean five years from now, you're more likely to be healthier if you got the vaccine than if you didn't. If you show me that, I'll take all the vaccines in the world," Kennedy says. "But there are no studies that support that, and they're able to escape the standard safety testing, placebo-controlled trials, prelicensure trials that are de rigueur for every other medicine except for vaccines."

    Seventy-two doses of 16 vaccines are now recommended for American children by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. States have the right to mandate them as they see fit, and in California and New York, all 16 vaccines are mandated. But whether they're mandated or not, there's tremendous pressure to take them all.

    In California and New York, you can't even get a medical exemption. Technically, both states allow medical exemptions, but no doctor will write you one because they risk losing their medical license if they do.

    "They're mandating these 72 doses of 16 vaccines, and they've never tested a single one … in a placebo-controlled study. They have no idea what the risk profile is for these medicines and they're mandating them to healthy people …

    You're taking healthy people with functioning immune systems and you're forcing them to take something that you don't know what the outcomes of are. It is criminal," Kennedy says.

    Will We See Kennedy in the Presidential Race?
    Kennedy recently announced he's considering entering the presidential race if he can garner enough support. Considering two members of the Kennedy family have already been murdered, this requires quite a bit of courage. Clearly, there are risks involved anytime you try to change a corrupt system from within. Kennedy comments:

    "I haven't made the decision yet, but I'm leaning towards doing it. It's going to give me an opportunity, as it makes it much more difficult for them to censor me, [to] talk about all these issues for the first time without censorship and connect them.

    I've been an environmental attorney and advocate for 40 years, and I saw the impact of agency capture. That's why I was able to recognize it so easily when I saw it in the pharmaceutical industry. All these agencies are captured. The pharmaceutical industry owns the National Institutes of Health … CDC, FDA. The coal and oil industry and the pesticide industry own the Environmental Protection Agency.

    I was on the trial team in the Monsanto case, which ended up with a $13 billion settlement. We had three trials in a row … [and] we did a lot of discovery. We were able to find secret EPA papers that showed the head of the EPA pesticide division for a decade was a man who was secretly working for Monsanto.

    So Monsanto was actually directing his movements. In one of the emails we found, Monsanto instructed him to kill a study that was being done by another agency, the Agency for Toxic Substance Control, ATSDR. It's a smaller agency that focuses just on toxins that's separate from EPA.

    He'd always been able to control the EPA studies and to fix them. But now here's another agency that Monsanto has no control over that's actually going to do an independent study on the carcinogenicity of Roundup and glyphosate.

    They were desperate to kill that study and he said, 'I'm going to kill that study for you, but you need to give me a gold medal when I do that.' So, these were the kind of correspondence he had with his true boss, Monsanto. And this, unfortunately, is true in all the federal agencies."

    Democracy Has Been Subverted
    As noted by Kennedy, most government agencies have been captured by the industries they're supposed to regulate, and as a result, democracy has been subverted, as they're no longer working for the American people. They're working for big corporations that are constantly putting profit above safety.

    "There's now a perfect merger of state and corporate power in this country," Kennedy says, "and the system is rigged against the middle class and the poor. And by the way, among the captured agencies are the CIA and the Pentagon, which have been captured by military contractors, and they don't care how much the Ukraine war costs us.

    Nobody cares because they're killing Ukrainians, not American kids. So it's the perfect war for them. And we ship over $112 billion and who gets that? It bounces. A lot of it goes into Zelenskyy's pocket and then it's bounced back to General Dynamics and all the military contractors. They then hire all the generals when they leave the Pentagon.

    Those are the generals you see on CNN every night, gravely saying we need to defend the people of Ukraine. But they're working for General Dynamic, stuffing their pockets with the money we're sending over there. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be helping the Ukrainian people or that Vladimir Putin isn't a thug and a gangster …

    But we need to understand that we have intelligence agencies and military agencies whose job it is … to destroy American democracy from within. And that those agencies, their job is to provide a constant pipeline of new wars that are going to feed the military industrial complex which owns them.

    Look, we gave a $112 billion to Ukraine already. The entire budget of CDC is $12 billion. The entire budget of EPA I think is around $11 billion. And we have a crisis in this country. We have a child health crisis — 54% of our children have chronic disease and we don't know what's causing it.

    We have kids going to dilapidated schools. Our infrastructure is falling apart. We have a middle class in this country has been hollowed out and destroyed and we need to start paying attention to these problems here at home and solving them."

    DOT — Another Example of a Captured Agency
    The toxic train wreck in East Palestine, Ohio, is another example of what happens when regulatory agencies are captured. According to Kennedy, Norfolk Southern Railway has a weekly revenue of $1.5 billion, and its cap for safety violations is $225,000. So, there's no incentive for the railway to make sure safety regulations are followed.

    Its lackadaisical approach to safety has now contaminated an entire region and destroyed the lives of several hundred residents, yet the penalty is barely a drop in their revenue bucket. And again, the reason they're getting away with this is because the Department of Transportation (DOT) is wholly captured by the big railroad companies.

    "I like Pete [Buttigieg], but he's not a guy who looks at that agency and says, 'I know it's a captured agency and I'm going to weed out the people who are corrupt, I'm going to make the trains run on time, I'm going to make sure they have two engineers and I'm going to make sure they're using electronic controlled brakes and not the brakes they used in the civil war' — which is what was on this train …

    Why is that? Because [the DOT is] a captured agency. The electronic brakes would've cost $3 billion to put on their entire fleet. That is two weeks of revenue for that company, but they rather spent the money on lobbyists, make sure they didn't have to do that, and then they took the cash and did a stock buyback.

    So, they all are getting rich and the people in East Palestine are now drinking poisoned water, their cats are dying, their cows are dying and their children are now exposed to dioxin. A single molecule of dioxin can cause cancer. It is the most toxic molecule that we know of in the universe that's not radioactive. It's horrendously toxic, and it's now spread over the landscape …"

    Why Kennedy Believes He Can Root Out the Corruption
    As explained by Kennedy, politicians may start out believing their own campaign promise to end corruption but, in the end, they simply don't know how to fix the problem. They don't know how to clean up these agencies. Even presidents have been powerless in this regard.

    "You can't go into an agency with 30,000 or 60,000 employees and fix it overnight unless you know exactly where the problem is," Kennedy says. "So, they appoint a guy to run that agency who's usually from the industry … And that guy doesn't know how to fix it either. So, he relies on the department heads and the branch heads within that agency, and they're all corrupt and have been there 50 years, like Fauci …

    Some of the politicians are even worse. They just get co-opted. They're taking money from the industry and become slaves to the congressional committee chairs who are all on the take … I feel I can fix this problem like nobody else can, because I know how these agencies work.

    I know the individuals in these agencies who need to be moved to Nome, Alaska, and the ones who have been doing favors, who are in the tank with the industry. I know the databases that we need to open and make public so that the independent scientists can do their jobs.

    I know how to stop the corruption in the universities by telling the universities you're not getting money anymore to do these phony pharmaceutical industry studies, or oil industry studies.

    I know how to send my attorney general after the journals like the Lancet and The New England Journal of Medicine and sue them for racketeering, saying, 'You are not telling the truth. You're claiming to tell the truth to people about medicine, but you guys admit it's not the truth. It's pharmaceutical industry propaganda.'

    All these agencies have that same kind of structure, and I've spent 40 years suing them. I've spent 20 years suing the United States Department of Agriculture for doing favors for Smithfield Foods, Tyson Food, Bo Pilgrim, Cargill and Monsanto. It's a captive agency …

    I feel like I should do this, and that it will give me a chance to talk to the American people. If people want to hear the truth, I'll win. If they want business as usual, then I won't. But for me it's irrelevant. I'm going to fight as hard as I can to win. But my only real concern is to leave this process with my integrity intact and my family.

    If I can protect my family and have my integrity, then I've done what I'm supposed to do. If I didn't do this, I would feel like it was an opportunity that I had missed. I might, if I can win, change things. And I know how to change things probably better than any politician who has run in the last 20 years …

    A lot of the changes that I could make are changes that I wouldn't need Congress for — how to restructure the agencies, including the intelligence agencies, so that they begin to work for the American people and for actual national security rather than what they've been doing.

    My father had a plan for reorganizing the CIA that I think is still relevant today … The problem is the espionage aspect of the CIA … [It should be] information gathering and analysis to the president to make better decisions, but that's not what the agency ended up doing …

    It has nothing in its charter that it would allow it to do paramilitary operations to fix elections, assassinate leaders, kidnap, kill people, torture people. None of that was part of its initial mission.

    [Allen] Dulles [the founding director of the CIA] snuck that in through generous interpretations of some of the charter provisions. And then what happened, the plans division, which is the dirty tricks division, became the tail that was wagging the espionage dog.

    And the espionage function of CIA, it should be oversight of the plans division. They should be antagonistic towards each other … The problem with the CIA is it has never learned from mistakes. It never does, because there's never any accountability … Patriotism means a faithfulness to the United States Constitution above all. Above all. And if you don't know that, you shouldn't be in government."

    How You Can Support Kennedy's Presidential Bid
    If you want to support Kennedy in his bid for president of the United States, be sure to visit TeamKennedy.com. For updates on the litigation Kennedy is involved in, sign up for the CDH newsletter, The Defender, on Childrenshealthdefense.org. "
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    This is an interview of Robert Kennedy Jr on the Jimmy Dore Show... the most compelling thing about it for me is Jimmy's facial responses... he's respectful and listens to what Robert K is saying but you can see what he's thinking and sometimes he has to purse his lips to keep quiet and let his guest speak... it's amazing what can be conveyed with micro expressions and the look in someone's eyes... you can see Jimmy thinks that Robert Kennedy is a good, sincere man... but hasn't caught up with the full depths of corruption in the Democrat Party and politics in general...

    At around 17mins he responds and tells Robert K (respectfully but firmly) that he will never be allowed to get into power - just like Bernie was never allowed to get into power (me>>>) the only reason Biden became the Democrat candidate was because the primaries are rigged... just like the actual elections are rigged -

    RFK Jr. Says He Could Be The Donald Trump Of The Democratic Party(20:39)



    Quote 14 Mar 2023 #TheJimmyDoreShow
    Robert F. Kennedy jr. is mulling a run for the Presidency and challenging Joe Biden for the Democratic Party nomination. Kennedy admits that the United States no longer has a functioning democracy, and that the Democratic Party is already manipulating the 2024 primaries and refusing to hold debates — all in order to protect Biden.

    Jimmy talks to Kennedy about the 2024 race and why he believes he can break through despite the party’s rank corruption and win the nomination as an outsider like a 2024 Democratic version of 2016 Donald Trump.

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    • Roseanne Barr Blows Tim Pool's Mind with Her Dark 2024 Election Prediction:

    Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” shares a clip of Roseanne Barr shocks Tim Pool and Michael Malice on Timcast with her 2024 election prediction.
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    • Roseanne Barr Blows Tim Pool's Mind with Her Dark 2024 Election Prediction:

    Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” shares a clip of Roseanne Barr shocks Tim Pool and Michael Malice on Timcast with her 2024 election prediction.
    I found that rather interesting.

    I'd NOT yet seen this video (in which I've just discovered that Roseanne Barr "bet big", and shook hands on camera for $1000 that the election will be canceled).

    I'd opened the thread here to make my own similar prediction. I was going to write:
    I'd bet $10 (but not yet $100 or more) that the 2024 US election won't happen.
    I'm not certain — and I don't have as much $$ as Roseanne! — but to me there are quite a few real-world factors already in play that suggest there won't be a 2024 election at all.
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    I'm not certain — and I don't have as much $$ as Roseanne! — but to me there are quite a few real-world factors already in play that suggest there won't be a 2024 election at all.
    I won't bet against you on that.

    Obama and Hilary were part 1 and 2 of a 16 year plan to take down America and hand it over to the NWO.

    At the exact midway point, another faction snatched the baton and launched a 7 year plan in the opposite direction.

    That sounds like a plan that completes about a year before the 2024 election.
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    My take on the 2024 election is that Robert Kennedy Jr. (unfortunately) does not stand a chance. The progressive party has already discounted him and the mainstream activist media has set him up as an anti-vaxxer and a conspiratorial sideshow. I see no way for this to change between now and the election. Even if Biden gets knocked out of the race for "honest" health reasons or he actually passes away Robert Kennedy will not be the candidate. Kamala Harris presents a real dilemma for the Progressives but there is no chance that she would ever be allowed to become president unless Biden died while in office.

    As far as who the democratic party will put up for election that will really be determined by who the Republican candidate will be. If Trump wins the primary then the Democrats will hang on to Biden but if for some reason the Republican Party puts forward DeSantis or some dark horse emerges like Vivek Ramaswamy (don't discount this man) then the Democrats will put forward a candidate other than Biden, most likely it will be George Newsom or Tracy Abrams.

    Of course, this all could be a mute issue if the Republicans allow or can't stop, mail-in balloting, same-day registration, unsecured drop boxes, and vote harvesting.


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    Quote =ExomatrixTV;1570292]

    Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” shares a clip of Roseanne Barr shocks Tim Pool and Michael Malice on Timcast with her 2024 election prediction.
    I found that rather interesting.

    I'd NOT yet seen this video (in which I've just discovered that Roseanne Barr "bet big", and shook hands on camera for $1000 that the election will be canceled).

    I'd opened the thread here to make my own similar prediction. I was going to write:
    I'd bet $10 (but not yet $100 or more) that the 2024 US election won't happen.
    I'm not certain — and I don't have as much $$ as Roseanne! — but to me there are quite a few real-world factors already in play that suggest there won't be a 2024 election at all.
    Rush Limbaugh used to say for about 2 years before he passed that the Democrat's/Progressive's ultimate goal was to do away with elections. I have never believed that the American people would ever allow that to happen but I must admit that Rush proved me wrong before. We shall see.
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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    My take on the 2024 election is that Robert Kennedy Jr. (unfortunately) does not stand a chance. The progressive party has already discounted him and the mainstream activist media has set him up as an anti-vaxxer and a conspiratorial sideshow. I see no way for this to change between now and the election. Even if Biden gets knocked out of the race for "honest" health reasons or he actually passes away Robert Kennedy will not be the candidate. Kamala Harris presents a real dilemma for the Progressives but there is no chance that she would ever be allowed to become president unless Biden died while in office.

    As far as who the democratic party will put up for election that will really be determined by who the Republican candidate will be. If Trump wins the primary then the Democrats will hang on to Biden but if for some reason the Republican Party puts forward DeSantis or some dark horse emerges like Vivek Ramaswamy (don't discount this man) then the Democrats will put forward a candidate other than Biden, most likely it will be George Newsom or Tracy Abrams.

    Of course, this all could be a mute issue if the Republicans allow or can't stop, mail-in balloting, same-day registration, unsecured drop boxes, and vote harvesting.


    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote =ExomatrixTV;1570292]

    Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” shares a clip of Roseanne Barr shocks Tim Pool and Michael Malice on Timcast with her 2024 election prediction.
    I found that rather interesting.

    I'd NOT yet seen this video (in which I've just discovered that Roseanne Barr "bet big", and shook hands on camera for $1000 that the election will be canceled).

    I'd opened the thread here to make my own similar prediction. I was going to write:
    I'd bet $10 (but not yet $100 or more) that the 2024 US election won't happen.
    I'm not certain — and I don't have as much $$ as Roseanne! — but to me there are quite a few real-world factors already in play that suggest there won't be a 2024 election at all.
    Rush Limbaugh used to say for about 2 years before he passed that the Democrat's/Progressive's ultimate goal was to do away with elections. I have never believed that the American people would ever allow that to happen but I must admit that Rush proved me wrong before. We shall see.
    Biden is out. The gate to the pasture is open and his handler-wife is charged with leading him there.

    Michelle Obama, whoever and whatever that person is, is being groomed to run as the Dem in 2024. Just as Barry Sotero was groomed for 2008.

    RFK, Jr is not their choice. This is so for many reasons.

    Obama very likely is their choice. This is so for many reasons.

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    Confederacy of Scumbags
    Alexandra Bruce
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    8/4/23

    "As we all know, Donald Trump was indicted by a grand jury led by Special Counsel Jack Smith on Tuesday and arraigned Thursday in a federal courtroom on four felony charges, including Conspiracy to Defraud the United States; Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding; Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding; and Conspiracy Against Rights.

    The indictment alleges quote, “The purpose of the conspiracy was to overturn the legitimate results of the 2020 presidential election by using knowingly false claims of election fraud to obstruct the federal government function by which those results are collected, counted, and certified.”

    This means Jack Smith needs to prove that Trump actually believed that he lost and that he criminally sought to convince everybody otherwise. Critics are calling Jack Smith’s latest indictment a retread of J6 committee garbage, more free speech violations by the Biden DOJ who should know better and ESP-like assumptions and mind-reading nonsense.

    Moreover, Federal prosecutors will have to contend with at least five high-profile cases of confirmed irregularities or illegalities from the 2020 contest ranging from Iranian interference to unlawful voting procedures. As a result, most MAGA and legal pundits smiling.
    https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...adicting-trump

    One of my favorite writers, James Howard Kunstler has this to say about recent events, quote:
    https://kunstler.com/cluster****-nat...ion-creeps-in/

    Quote So, the best they could do was to charge Mr. Trump with objecting vocally to an election that looked as rotten as Hunter’s uncapped teeth? We all saw what happened overnight November 3 and 4, 2020: what the numbers looked like in the swing precincts at midnight and the magic mathematics that swapped tens of thousands of votes over from the Trump column to the Biden column (say, whu?) … the shutdown of the Fulton County State Farm Arena due to a supposedly leaking toilet and the ensuing monkey business with rolly-bags full of ballots under the tables captured by the closed-circuit cameras… the miraculous wee-hour harvest of ballots in Milwaukee… US Postal Service truck full of completed ballots out of Bethpage, Long Island, that turned up in Philadelphia… Mark Zuckerberg’s $419-million-dollar operation using two front orgs, the Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL) and the Center for Election Innovation and Research (CEIR) to staff precinct election boards with party shills and buy votes… the thumb drives and modems in the vote-counting machines….

    Special Counsel Jack Smith may find it difficult to prove that expressing an opinion about all that is some kind of crime. Meanwhile, he’s turned Mr. Trump into the poster boy for the many other aggrieved victims of a government weaponized against its own people. More than half the country sees exactly what’s going on and no amount of video footage showing “JB” and Jill holding hands on the beach is going cover for that. We are on the threshold of a king-hell national crisis.
    Donald Trump’s attorney, John Lauro sees at least one silver lining in the Department of Justice’s latest indictment of his client: Trump will get to litigate why he believes the 2020 presidential election was fraudulent.
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tru...2020-election/
    He says, “We now have the ability in this case to issue our own subpoenas, and we will re-litigate every single issue in the 2020 election in the context of this litigation,” Lauro added. “It gives President Trump an opportunity that he has never had before, which is to have subpoena power since January 6 in a way that can be exercised in federal court.”

    John Lauro’s thoughts were echoed by Alina Habba, Trump’s civil lawyer and spokeswoman.
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/exp...es-everything/
    She says that, by bringing the latest charges against Mr. Trump, the government is taking a number of risks, saying, “When you bring a lawsuit, you now open the door to subpoenas. You now open the door to us being able to ask you questions about the legitimacy of the 2020 election.”

    I doubt that even the most Trump-deranged person on the planet thinks that Trump doesn’t actually believe he won! Former Supreme Court clerk, Mike Davis believes that a DC jury will be so Trump-deranged that they will find Trump guilty no matter what but he believes that if it does go to the Supreme Court, the case will be thrown out.

    As for the judge who was “randomly” assigned to this case, Tanya Chutkan has delivered some of the harshest sentences to January 6th defendants and made her disgust and horror over January 6th clear and she has steadfastly toed the Deep State line that Trump didn’t actually believe that he won.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...utkan-00109342

    And then, there’s this question: Can a president be criminally tried by the federal judiciary for the same crime from which he was legislatively acquitted? Journalist, Joel Pollak argues that Trump is protected by the Double Jeopardy Clause and the new indictment should be quashed before trial, and the country should be spared the drama. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...opardy-clause/

    He writes, “Special Counsel Jack Smith accuses former President Donald Trump of causing the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot through his “lies” about the 2020 presidential election. To that end, he indicted Trump on four federal counts — one of which carries a potential death penalty.

    He continues, “But Smith’s indictment itself offers nothing new. It carries same criminal charge of the second impeachment resolution against Trump, namely ‘incitement of insurrection,’ and for which he was acquitted by the Senate. It is barred, therefore, by the Constitution’s Double Jeopardy Clause.

    “The Double Jeopardy Clause, contained within the Fifth Amendment, prevents any person from being tried twice in a federal court for the same crime.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...opardy-clause/
    So they’re accusing Trump of fraud but who are they kidding as to who the actual fraudsters really are? I’m with Raheem Kassam on this one.
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/rah...-upon-america/

    One of the funders of the hit film, ‘Sound of Freedom’ was just arrested for felony child kidnapping. The recent arrest of Fabian Marta, who bragged about helping fund the movie after Disney shelved it. According to the Missouri Courts website, Marta was charged July 21 with child kidnapping, a felony. According to Newsweek, which published his mugshot, Marta was arrested on July 23.
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...1jrisjGfTWA1FZ


    The State of Missouri defines kidnapping as when a person who is, “not a relative of the child within the third degree and, knowing he or she has no right to do so, removes a child under the age of fourteen without consent of the child’s parents or guardian, or confines such child for a substantial period of time without such consent.”
    https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/03/ru...ms-government/

    Tech Crunch reports that Russian state-sponsored hackers posed as technical support staff on Microsoft Teams to compromise dozens of global organizations, including government agencies.

    Microsoft security researchers said on Wednesday that the “highly targeted” social engineering campaign was carried out by a Russian state-sponsored hacking group tracked by Microsoft as “Midnight Blizzard,” but more commonly known as Cozy Bear. The group, which was linked to the infamous SolarWinds attack in 2020, and fraudulently accused by the FBI of hacking the 2016 Presidential election in favor of Donald Trump is allegedly part of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service, or SVR, according to US and UK law enforcement agencies.

    SGAnon truthed earlier today the worldwide cyberattacks over the past last 5-8 weeks indicates to him that we are well into Phase 1 of the World Economic Forum’s Cyber Polygon Exercise – und zee frightening zenario of a comprehensive cyber attack.
    https://truthsocial.com/@RealSGAnon/...33153266257009

    SGAnon stated that further cyberattack incursions, infiltrations, and destabilizations will continue to occur, and will intensify and that Phase 2 is on the horizon, so we would do well to be mindful of that.

    And Ed Dowd is back with some alarming new numbers which show that the rates of death and disability in the US are accelerating after a period of going sideways for several months, with 850,000 Americans added last June to the rolls of those self-identifying as “disabled”.
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/ed-...alarming-rate/

    Ed sees a similar trend in other countries that mandated the COVID shot. Ed discusses his recent findings while investigating the UK Personal Independence Payment system (PIP), which is the UK’s version of Social Security Disability Insurance.

    He found that the rates of reported hematological (blood-related) illness was up 522% in 2022 over the trend that had been established since 2016. There have been massive increases in excess reports of every different kinds of disability in the UK’s PIP Reported Disabilities, with Hematological claims up 522%, Endocrine, metabolic, and thermoregulation up 156%, Gastrointestinal up 145%, etc.

    He says the 522% increase in hematological claims equates to a 61 standard deviation, saying, “61 standard deviations is lights-out, Black Swan event, something’s gone off the rails. It’s so many zeros and so unlikely to happen by accident that it has to be explained. And that’s why we’re calling on the medical community to explain this.”

    In other news, the drowning death of Barack Obama’s private chef, Tafari Campbell is deemed an accident but Massachusetts police are STILL withholding basic information about Barack Obama’s personal chef under the guise of an ‘ongoing investigation’
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/cov...personal-chef/

    On Friday morning, The Gateway Pundit published an explosive explosive video of Viktor Shokin, the Ukrainian prosecutor who was removed from office under pressure from then-U.S. Vice President Joe Biden.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...sponds-bidens/

    In the detailed and extensive interview, Shokin responded to allegations from the Biden regime, laying out his side of the story regarding the investigations into Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that once employed Hunter.

    Joe Biden was bribed $5 million and his son Hunter was also bribed $5 million to have Shokin removed from office.

    And finally, Tucker Carlson landing the interview with Hunter Biden’s former business partner, Devon Archer, instead of one the Fake News networks proves that the dinosaur media is dead."
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/the...ucker-carlson/


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v326i2y/?pub=ijro7
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    https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/...753751040?s=20

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    I think there will be an election but it will be a true 'massacre' (before and after).

    And for me it is very likely they will rig the election results again like in 2020. The Dems seem good at this. Therefore I believe no Republican candidate stands a (fair) chance.

    Just my quick thoughts on the matter.

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    not authorized by the campaign..

    https://twitter.com/TheWakeninq/stat...070217216?s=20

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    Roseanne Barr "bet big", and shook hands on camera for $1000 that the election will be canceled.
    I was also thinking about this. At this time, the most popular Republican candidate is Donald Trump. The most popular Democrat is RFK Jr. We know that there are powerful forces that would never allow either of them to get into the White House. I was thinking of starting a thread to ask "How will 'They' stop RFK and Trump?" Here are some ways that "they" could bring that about.
    • Blackmail. It is believed that the popular Ross Perot was blackmailed in 1992 so that he would pick the rather laughable James Stockdale as his VP which would make Perot unelectable. I think both RFK and Trump would stand up to blackmail, and their supporters would smell a rat. It might backfire and make them even more unelectable.

    • Assassination, or causing some grave health crisis to the candidates. I doubt they would assassinate either of them in broad daylight, as they did JFK, RFK, and MLK, but I could see them poisoning their food, using scalar weapons, etc. in such a way that it would ruin their health and make it impossible for them to serve as president. Of course, it they did it to one, it would only strengthen the other as a candidate, and a majority of American would not believe it and become even more mistrustful of government. And if they did it to both, 99.9% of Americans would become unabashed conspiracy theorists and refuse to support their government. And there would still be people like Tulsi Gabbard, Cornell West, Rand Paul, etc. who could fill that vacuum on election day.

    • A manufactured event that would make the election impossible. As Tim Pool points out, we have never missed an election during our many wars. Also, we had elections in November 2020 during the COVID pandemic, when many businesses, churches, etc. were still shut down. It would have to be something more drastic than war and COVID put together to stop it. (Bring in the aliens !!!)

    Also, could there be a situation where RFK or Trump celebrates a victory in November, but do not get to be inaugurated 10 weeks later? Congress could refuse to ratify the vote (and insure the end of their career) or there could be some kind of military coup (that hardly anyone in the U.S military would support.)

    I am thinking that in order to stop RKF or Trump or someone else as threatening to the Powers that Be from entering the White house on January 20th, 2025, there would have to be some unprecedented event, more earth shattering that 9/11 or the COVID pandemic.

    And also, I imagine there are similar situations brewing in the rest of the world, where non-psychopath politicians could gain real political power threatening to the world's elites and their Machiavellian plans .

    I won't bet that the election will be canceled, as it could be a spectacular distraction for the American people, but who ever is President by the end of January 2025 will not be someone who has the support of the people of the U.S.
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    OBAMA IS 3RD-GENERATION CIA
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    (Somehow I missed this story when it came out...I wonder if I am the only one.
    If it REALLY gets out, it should have an impact on the 2024 election.
    A good one to share widely.)

    "Author and screenwriter, Mark Groubert joins Eric Hunley of America’s Untold Stories to talk about the CIA’s zest for family recruitment and to ask why do so many offspring and relatives of the members of the intelligence community end up in show business, sports, the political world and the arts? And what is their agenda?

    The question becomes particularly pertinent when we look at the maternal side of President Barack Obama’s family, the Dunhams. I’ve cued-up the video to the 44-minute mark and transcribed everything below.

    ***
    TRANSCRIPT

    Eric Hunley: Let’s talk about that fine, fine family, that we all want to discuss and definitely –

    Mark Groubert: Which family is that? I mean they’ve got you’re talking about –

    Eric Hunley: This family. (Shows him this photo). This beautiful family, here:

    Mark Groubert: The Dunham-Soetoro-Obama family. I mean, there’s a lot of names. On the left, you’ll see Ann Dunham and Ann Dunham is wearing a blazer. On the right shoulder are the initials to a Jesuit Catholic school in – I swear to God – are the initials for a Jesuit private school in Beirut, Lebanon, where this photo is taken, because the man in the middle is her father, the grandfather to Barack Obama, who is a CIA operative at the Beirut Station, where this is taken with the grandmother of Barack Obama, sitting next to him –

    Eric Hunley: – and by the way, this was in the time that Beirut was considered the “Paris of the Middle East”.

    Mark Groubert: Right. Absolutely. The woman on the right, Madeleine Dunham will end up running the escrow account, out of the Bank of Hawaii and Honolulu that the CIA used as a private slush fund for dictators, like Marcos in the Philippines and Sukarno in Indonesia and Hussein in a place called Iraq. She will handle, privately, that money being funneled through that bank.

    The woman on the left will become the Marilyn Murett of the ’70s, ’60s and ’70s – Ann Dunham. She will – just so you know, apparently, they used a lot of anthropologists. Anthropologists later became the go-to profession for the intelligence agencies, because –

    Eric Hunley: How about archaeologists?

    Mark Groubert: – uh, archaeologists too. In fact, one of the teachers that Obama had at the private school in Hawaii was the model for Indiana Jones! One of his teachers at that school, so I mean, when Indiana Jones is your teacher, I mean, I guess anything’s possible, you know.

    Eric Hunley: There you go. And Indiana Jones, of course was what he was: anti-Nazi. And what was the CIA built for? It was because of – oh my God! So it’s a loop. It’s it’s like an OODA Loop…

    Mark Groubert: Ann Dunham becomes involved in the sham marriages, first, to Operation Air Africa, it was called. They brought over 282 Africans from various nations, because we wanted to have the future leaders of Africa during the Cold War, when we were battling the Soviets in Africa.

    So, from Kenya, comes a Barack Senior, who comes to the University in Hawaii and an organization called the East-West Foundation, which was a CIA front at the University of Hawaii, where she and Barack Senior are, of course studying Russian together – as many innocent people do (laughs).

    Eric Hunley: You’ve established that!

    Mark Groubert: Right, so the two of them meet studying Russian, which is where every Love Bird meets, you know? We always meet at Russian class.

    Eric Hunley: Of course!

    Mark Groubert: They’re at the East-West Institute at the University of Hawaii – so by the way, Hawaii is just completely – what my recent research indicates – is completely Spooksville. I mean, everything involved, the more I dig into Hawaii, the more it seems like it’s a complete CIA state.

    Mark Chapman coming out of there, a lot of MK ULTRA stuff coming out of Hawaii. Apparently, they’ve been doing stuff in Hawaii for years that you and I are not privy to. But Dunham meets –

    Eric Hunley: That kind of makes sense, though, doesn’t it? I mean, the CIA is all out of World War II. I mean, Hawaii is out of World War II –

    Mark Groubert: Pearl Harbor starts World War II. So anyway, so that’s, I guess the grandmother on the right and his mother on the left and little Barack in the middle. So, Barack Senior comes from Kenya, leaves a wife who’s pregnant at the time, comes to Hawaii and marries this woman and impregnates her with Barack. He then goes to Harvard, hooks up with a Jewish woman, marries her, also and takes her back to Kenya, so that’s like he’s got three wives in two years simultaneously.

    Eric Hunley: Is he a bigamist or did he manage to divorce her?

    Mark Groubert: There’s some overlapping things here. I don’t know what happens. The one in Kenya, the one in Harvard goes back to him. He’s kind of kicked out of Harvard, because the parents begin to write to the Dean of Harvard, that this guy is having sex with their daughters and impregnating them. The parents – not connected, separate parents – write to the Dean, saying, “This guy is impregnating our daughters,” so he’s unceremoniously, quietly sent back to Kenya and he takes one of the students with him as yet his third wife back there and Barack Senior was the underling to a guy named Mboya and Mboya was the next in line to become the head of Kenya.

    Tom Mboya was the one who arranged the airlift of Barack Senior to come to the University of Hawaii. Mboya was part of the same tribe as Barack Obama Senior. Mboya is assassinated and then there’s an assassination attempt on Barack Senior in Kenya. He later dies in a drunken car crash into a rubber tree, himself; becomes an alcoholic and and drives himself into a tree.

    But the operation that the CIA put together was to battle the Soviets throughout Africa that was why they brought over 280 African students. It wasn’t because they liked them, it was, “these are going to be the future leaders of Africa”, you know, which is what the airlift was about.

    It was funded by the Joseph P Kennedy foundation, by the way. Kind of All Roads Lead to Kennedy Oddity Number 71. He supplies the money, they bring him over there, Barack Senior goes back.

    Now Ann Dunham goes back to the East-West Institute…so he’s born. I don’t even know how to explain this except to tell you she meets a guy named Lolo Soetoro at the East-West institute in Hawaii…So Barry Soetoro is the stepchild of Lolo Soetoro.

    And you say, “Well, Mark who is Lolo Soetoro?” Lolo Soetoro goes to the East-West-Institute at the University of Hawaii to learn Russian, like everyone does.

    Eric Hunley: Because, everybody does!

    Mark Groubert: Everybody goes there. So he shows up and he…now meets Ann Dunham and of course, immediately marries her, as things have it and Lolo Soetoro is a colonel to a guy named Suharto who is a general in Sukarno’s military in Indonesia…Sukarno is like the Nassar of Indonesia. He’s a nationalist who’s playing both sides of the coin. He’s the first democratically-elected leader of Indonesia Sukarno is not a strong man, he’s a nationalist. He’s duly-elected, he’s trying to find a middle ground to navigate between the Chinese – Communist Chinese who have infiltrated – not infiltrated – there’s millions of Chinese, native Chinese who live in Indonesia, the Soviets, who have infiltrated into Indonesia and us, who are in Indonesia.

    So we are backing Sukarno. Sukarno seems to be slipping away from us, so there’s a couple of coups. They’re not really well done. Eisenhower F*s up. These coups fail. An American pilot named Pope gets shot down. It’s revealed that Pope is CIA. He’s shot down. We’re bombing some of the outer islands with CIA military planes.

    So, Pope gets caught, we have to pull back the funding and we realize that we have to take down Sukarno. And the guy that we want to take down Sukarno is a guy named Suharto. Suharto, his Number One henchman is this guy, Lolo Soetoro. Where is Lolo Soetoro? Lolo Soetoro is in Hawaii learning Russian with Ann Dunham. You can’t make this up. This is absolutely fact.

    He now has to go back to Indonesia and help Suharto overthrow Sukarno, which he does, in one of the bloodiest coups in the history of the world. 1.5 million native Chinese are butchered to death, in the result of this coup against the Communist insurgents and the Communist supporters, the PKI, which is a Communist Party of Indonesia.

    When Suharto takes over with the help of of Barry Soetoro’s stepfather, he is involved in one of the biggest mass murders in the history of any coup, possibly to Pol Pot and the Cambodians. There’s estimates that 2.5 million Indonesian Chinese were were butchered to death. They’re still digging up mass graves in Indonesia to this day.

    They drove the Communist Chinese out of Indonesia, which is what the CIA wanted, with the help of Lolo Soetoro, who was a colonel. And Suharto, who became the bloody strongman of Indonesia and did our bidding and that sealed Indonesia into the Capitalist, US sphere of influence, never to return.

    The Soviets pulled out. Soviets bailed out when Sukarno was still in power. They saw the handwriting on the wall but the Chinese were starting to help them build nuclear reactors and supply – possibly – nuclear weapons to the Indonesian government, so it was a a country that was in play at the time. Very rarely is it commented upon, because of the debacle.

    And the reason it’s important is Obama, as President refused to mention Indonesia; didn’t want to mention it at all. And a man went village-to-village with a group and when Obama was running for President, he went with a group through the villages and threatened them, saying, “Do not talk to the media!” and that was a guy named John Brennan, who later became the head of the CIA for Obama.

    When he goes to Occidental College in LA – Occidental College is a CIA recruiting college where dozens and dozens of CIA operatives have come out of Occidental, here in Los Angeles. He then transfers to Columbia University, which is where, I think this looks like Upper Central Park, here, if my New York roots indicate that I still remember.

    That’s his grandmother and grandfather. He takes uh an intern job at a organization called BIC, which is a CIA front organization in New York, which is called Business International Corporation when he’s at Columbia and he’s an editor of a magazine there for them and that’s a CIA operation to spread international propaganda around the world and he is part, in the early ’80s of a little-known CIA program called Operation Looking Glass and Operation Looking Glass is about developing young talent at the college level to become CIA operatives, which he is part of, obviously, based on what we now know.

    Eric Hunley: Unbelievable.

    Mark Groubert: Yeah, there’s a lot to this. There’s a lot to Operation Looking Glass, which is very rarely explored but you could see that his road is being paved, put it that way.

    Eric Hunley: Wow.

    Mark Groubert: He’s now taken, at the age of six, he’s taken by his mother, Ann Dunham back to Indonesia, where he’s put into a madrasa and they give him a Indonesian Soebarkah last name so he can become an Indonesian citizen. And I think the whole thing about his birth certificate was not about Birther or anything about that, it was about this adoption by Soetoro, this legal adoption of him, which had to happen for him to go to an Indonesian school, based on Indonesian law. He had to be adopted there was no way out of it.

    Eric Hunley: The whole scheme might not have been to disprove where he was born it was to force him to show who he’s related to.

    Mark Groubert: Exactly and Soetoro adopted him and they – I don’t think if this has ever been acknowledged – and they add this name Soebarkah as an Indonesian name to show that he is now an Indonesian national – you can’t have dual citizenship, according to Indonesian law, even to this day. So he is an American Citizen, however, to become a student in the madrasa in Indonesia, he needs to be adopted and given Indonesian citizenship, which is what this name indicated, that Soetoro had adopted him as his stepson.

    Eric Hunley: Wow.

    Mark Groubert: So, this is now another marriage by his mother. The reason this is important and getting back to his mother: his mother goes village to village as a quote-unquote “anthropologist” to find out who the Communists are in the village, so they can be executed. That’s where the blood is on is the hands of his mother. She’s not a hippie chick from Berkeley. She’s not a Dead Head, she’s not anything like that.
    This woman used her anthropology training – as did Margaret Mead, by the way, by her own admission – she used it to find out in the villages what the political beliefs were of different villages. That’s the information the CIA needed so that Suharto could execute his enemies, once he seized power with the coup. And those enemies added up to closely 2 million Chinese Indonesians.

    Eric Hunley: Good Lord.

    Mark Groubert: Yeah. She then she then goes to Pakistan in the ’80s and does the same thing when the Soviets start going into Afghanistan, she goes to Lahore and takes Obama with her in ’81, I think and and it’s the same time the Soviets are invading Afghanistan, so she is everywhere where the action is, her entire career. Country-by-country-by-country, she’s everywhere. She’s an operative. That’s what she’s doing, you know.

    The dirty politics is using the anthropology to find out the politics of the villagers. That’s where the blood is on the hands of the family of Obama and he refuses to acknowledge any activity about his mother during that time period, other than that she was an anthropologist and you know, going through these villages, which is far from true.

    This coup is one of the most underreported American-backed CIA coups in American history, with the highest body count of any coup in American history, the coup in Indonesia, of replacing Sukarno with Suharto, very rarely discussed.

    Eric Hunley: Well, that’s a lot to chew on and it’s no wonder he could withstand the scorn of the other famous family, the Clintons. I’m guessing that the Clintons ties are more organized crime, whereas the Obama ties are more CIA-ridden.

    Mark Groubert: Interestingly enough, Suharto gave $1 million to the Clinton campaign in 1992 through backdoor legal campaign contributions to Bill Clinton, so there is some connection to the Clinton administration through Indonesia.

    Eric Hunley: All right and a question from Viva Frei: “A lot of this information is some that you cannot independently verify. How do you defend yourself against accusations of being a conspiracy theorist?”

    Mark Groubert: Well, there’s books on the subject, I don’t know if I’m a conspiracy theorist or not. I mean, Wayne Madsen has written a wonderful book called, ‘The Making of the President’ about the history of the Obamas. There’s a number of books on these subjects. I mean, I’m not just winging it, here. I mean that’s the thing. It’s quite a bit.

    Eric Hunley: …how in the world is this not, like talked about so much more, you know? They managed to somehow get this weird buzz, like it’s this weird “conspiracy” odd thing but it’s like, you look at it, it’s like, “No, that was the front page of The New York Times,” John Marks is a legitimate reporter, in book after book – and it’s like, no, it’s all there and that’s, I guess what is it if you want to hide history, put it in books?

    Mark Groubert: Yeah, I mean, it’s in books, I mean the books are footnoted. You missed plenty of bibliographies, there’s plenty of footnotes, plenty of documents. Just like Tom O’Neill’s book. When you look at chaos and you see the incredible amount of documents that O’Neill has come up with, I mean, obviously, it took him 20 years, you know it’s insane that a guy would dedicate his life to that but that’s what it takes, Eric. I mean, that book’s a masterpiece of documentation, you know.
    If you hadn’t read ‘CHAOS’ and a guy like Tom O’Neill came on your show and just started talking about what he’d uncovered, you might say he’s a “Tin Foil Conspiracy Theorist”, you know. But he’s got everything documented, everything footnoted. It’s a marvelous book and you know, hopefully, they’ll make a documentary out of it. Maybe it’ll be easier, because these documentaries seem to be the Cliff Notes versions of books today. And you can’t read the book, which is 600 pages, so you’ll watch an hour documentary on HBO, I guess, maybe you’ll get the information….

    But when you see an Alex Gibney making a hatchet job documentary on Julian Assange, I mean, what is the truth? Is Gibney the truth? Or is the truth about Assange what Glenn Greenwald tells us is the truth about Assange, a guy who was with him? So, who should I believe? Alex Gibney or or Glenn Greenwald about Julian Assange, a guy who’s been locked away in England now with no charges for years, you know, ostensibly a political prisoner.

    Eric Hunley: True. I’m going to circle back to the Indiana Jones reference and when we’re talking about all the material out there, it’s voluminous, actually and if you remember the end of ‘Raiders the Lost Ark’, where they hid the Ark of the Covenant in like a giant-ass government facility amongst miles of boxes. That’s kind of what we’re looking, at here and why Tom O’Neill has to spend 20 years, because a lot of it is sort of being hidden, I think in plain sight. It’s all out there but it’s buried, it’s obscure, it’s odd.

    I mean, books have fallen out of print. I mean, you’re showing up to connect.

    Mark Groubert: It takes a long time to connect these dots. I mean, Mark Lane was called a nut, you know, “He’s a conspiracy nut,” when he first came out with his stuff. Now, he looks like the smartest guy in the room for having come up with debunking the Magic Bullet Theory and a lot of the other Kennedy stuff. It’s now accepted as fact, you know.

    They move the goal post all the time, Eric you know they have a thing called the “Limited Hangout”. The CIA, where they’ll, you know, they’ll give in, that “OK, you got me there but you don’t have me here,” you know. They’ll throw you a bone, saying “Yes, we agree that happened. We agree, now what? Now we got to come up with another theory, move the goal post.”

    Eric Hunley: I think this is why – I’m i just thought of this right now – this is why it’s so critical that they’re cracking down on everybody on Twitter, Youtube and things like that, because the internet does enable everybody to index this material, because a lot of it is a matter of, you know, John Mark’s writing about MK ULTRA had to have a team of researchers going through all the many thousands of pages to dig this out.

    Well, if that’s all scanned, OCR and put into databases, you can be running AI inquiries or Machine Learning inquiries and extrapolating information so much quicker, plus you can disseminate it to a lot of people, so maybe you know, that’s part of the strategy is censorship.

    Mark Groubert: It’s maybe the only strategy – and it’s not just part of the strategy it is the only strategy that they can come up with, is out-and-out censorship. There is no other way to combat it, other than removing the stuff from the internet, down a rabbit hole or gatekeepers.

    Think about the gatekeepers think about the guy I just mentioned to you, Chris Milligan at Trine Day Books: gatekeeper. Who’s the gatekeeper of the internet? Nobody. Nobody!

    Who’s the gatekeeper at CBS News? There’s a guy at CBS News whose brother worked for Ben [Rhodes]…who worked for Obama. His brother was the head of CBS News. They have gatekeepers who are tied to the administration.

    Eric Hunley: Sharyl Attkisson wrote about it…

    Mark Groubert: But if you’re not getting your news from CBS anymore now, what do they do? What do they do? I mean, there’s no gatekeeper, so all you can do is censor it, pull down the video. I mean, it’s brute force but it’s better than having you and your friends go through all these documents and talking to people like me all day, you know! Something’s got to give. You can’t have this go on anymore, Eric!

    Eric Hunley: On that note, Everybody, this has been a fantastic fire hose. I encourage everybody to watch it six times, take notes, get back to us later. And you know what, please tell everybody, not only does it help us get the word out, get the views up, get people here but hey, let’s get eyeballs before they take it down.

    Mark Groubert: Right. Seriously. Right, good point. Next time, Sirhan.

    Eric Hunley: That’s right. Next time is going to be Sirhan Sirhan – and oh, my God, you think this is interesting, we’re only getting started.

    Mark Groubert: Right we’re just scratching the surface."

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    "Harvard Political Review has labeled Obama a war criminal"

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    My take on the 2024 election is that Robert Kennedy Jr. (unfortunately) does not stand a chance. The progressive party has already discounted him and the mainstream activist media has set him up as an anti-vaxxer and a conspiratorial sideshow. I see no way for this to change between now and the election. Even if Biden gets knocked out of the race for "honest" health reasons or he actually passes away Robert Kennedy will not be the candidate. Kamala Harris presents a real dilemma for the Progressives but there is no chance that she would ever be allowed to become president unless Biden died while in office.

    As far as who the democratic party will put up for election that will really be determined by who the Republican candidate will be. If Trump wins the primary then the Democrats will hang on to Biden but if for some reason the Republican Party puts forward DeSantis or some dark horse emerges like Vivek Ramaswamy (don't discount this man) then the Democrats will put forward a candidate other than Biden, most likely it will be George Newsom or Tracy Abrams.

    Of course, this all could be a mute issue if the Republicans allow or can't stop, mail-in balloting, same-day registration, unsecured drop boxes, and vote harvesting.


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    Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” shares a clip of Roseanne Barr shocks Tim Pool and Michael Malice on Timcast with her 2024 election prediction.
    I found that rather interesting.

    I'd NOT yet seen this video (in which I've just discovered that Roseanne Barr "bet big", and shook hands on camera for $1000 that the election will be canceled).

    I'd opened the thread here to make my own similar prediction. I was going to write:
    I'd bet $10 (but not yet $100 or more) that the 2024 US election won't happen.
    I'm not certain — and I don't have as much $$ as Roseanne! — but to me there are quite a few real-world factors already in play that suggest there won't be a 2024 election at all.
    Rush Limbaugh used to say for about 2 years before he passed that the Democrat's/Progressive's ultimate goal was to do away with elections. I have never believed that the American people would ever allow that to happen but I must admit that Rush proved me wrong before. We shall see.
    Biden is out. The gate to the pasture is open and his handler-wife is charged with leading him there.

    Michelle Obama, whoever and whatever that person is, is being groomed to run as the Dem in 2024. Just as Barry Sotero was groomed for 2008.

    RFK, Jr is not their choice. This is so for many reasons.

    Obama very likely is their choice. This is so for many reasons.
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    Excellent, excellent interview. Lots of information I've never heard of about people in the CIA and connections to the JFK assassination!

    The Obama information starts just before the 45 minutes mark. Quite shocking stuff about his "anthropologist" mother being used to target groups and individuals in Indonesia for assassination.

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    JIM HOFT BREAKS MASSIVE STORY/HUGE DEM VOTER FRAUD OPERATION/MICHIGAN & OTHER STATES
    8/11/23
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    "The Gateway Pundit‘s Jim Hoft joins Owen Shroyer to break a massive story on huge Democrat voter fraud operation in Michigan and in other states.
    Jim says that a couple of weeks ago, it was brought to his attention that in October of 2020, an investigation was started in Western Michigan after somebody had brought in eight to ten thousand registrations to the City Clerk’s Office in Muskegon, Michigan, just before the deadline where you couldn’t register anymore. Muskegon has a population of about 38,000, so eight to ten thousand votes is definitely enough to swing that local election.
    Indeed, Owen later asks the crew for the voting data in from 2016 (where Trump won) and from 2020 (where Trump got robbed) and there were exactly 10,000 more ballots cast in 2020 than in 2016, so this naked steal with bogus ballots can be verified with public information.
    Jim continues, “And then, the city clerks noticed that these registrations had similar handwriting, they had fraudulent addresses, they had bogus phone numbers. So, there was a lot of problems with these registrations, so they called the [Michigan] State Police. Wisely did that. So an investigation was started in October of 2020. We got a hold of the report a couple of weeks ago and that’s what we reported this week.
    “And what happened after the investigation started was they raided a couple of these offices in the area and the offices were run by GBI Strategies and what they found, Owen – this is going to blow your mind: they found automatic weapons. They found silencers for those weapons. They found burner phones. They found T-shirts for other Leftist organizations. They found cash cards – pre-paid cash cards – and not just one type. See, these people are clever, Owen. This tells you something. They found several different types of these cash cards.
    As Jim reported on August 10th:
    Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel’s Office got involved on October 21. Two members of AG Dana Nessel’s Criminal Investigation Division were assigned to the operation, yet curiously, she failed to mention the investigation to the public at any time since.
    Michigan State Police got involved and an investigator assigned to the case spoke with the female suspect who explained that she was being paid $1150/week “to find un-registered voters and provide them with a form so they can get registered to vote or obtain their absentee ballot.”
    After documenting these crimes and investigating for weeks, the Michigan police turned their investigation over to the FBI which promptly buried the findings.
    In the report the police named ‘GBI Strategies‘ as the organization running the scheme. GBI Strategies LLC is:
    connected to the Biden campaign and various Democrat campaign committees.
    has been in operation since 2014.
    was paid $1,571,386 by the Doug Jones for Senate campaign back in 2018.
    This group had branches across the nation.
    ‘GBI Strategies‘ was engaged in what the report suggests is widespread, systemic, voter fraud in multiple locations around the state.
    The police found at one location (Southfield) in Michigan –
    partially completed voter registration forms
    “pelican cases in the room with semi-automatic rifles joined with suppressors and optics and customized pistols.”
    A case with “4 rifles and 4 pistols.”
    “Dozens of new phones” and “Hundreds of pre-paid payment cards.”
    Michigan State Senator Ruth Johnson, who is a former Secretary of State, told the Gateway Pundit: “My estimate is over 800,000 ballot applications were sent to non-qualified voters in Michigan, including many individuals who moved or died, and even some individuals who were underage or non-citizens. Many were sent to people who had moved out of state.”
    On Wednesday, The Gateway Pundit followed up the report with information on the head of GBI Strategies.
    GBI Strategies LLC is a left-wing campaign consulting company run by Gary Bell with a mailing address in Alexandria, Virginia. A quick online search also shows that GBI Strategies, LLC is located in Tennessee. Gary Bell has a limited presence online. He keeps a low profile despite his impressive resume.
    According to Compmo Group Gary Bell manages over 70 “organizing operations” in 20 states and lends logistical and consulting support to another 7 states.” Bell also has links to a wide variety of far-left political groups, including the DSCC, DNC, Black PAC, IBEW and SEIU to name a few.
    A query done by The Gateway Pundit confirms that FEC filings show far-left Black PAC organizations paid GBI Strategies $11,254,919 in 2020.
    In other words, the investigators stumbled onto what appeared to be a drug dealer’s den. These were the sort of people hired by the DNC to manage the theft of the 2020 Election. When they called in the FBI, the case – of course – died a silent death.
    Jim says that up until recently, nobody outside of the investigation knew about this case and it was completely hidden, so this story was news to the whole country.
    He tells Owen, “This is something you’d expect in a Cartel operation, which, I think we’re getting closer and closer to understanding: when we’re dealing Democrats, we’re dealing with people like we would in a Cartel, and certainly, we have their Mob Boss on top, with Joe Biden and the Biden Crime Family…
    “I think this is looking very bad for the leaders of Michigan, the State Leaders…as they’re attacking all of these lawyers, filing charges against these Electors – Republican Electors – they’ve been hiding this from the public. They’ve been hiding that this massive registration investigation has been going on…
    “We suspect that it [the investigation] was killed-off. But that really puts them in a bind and this story isn’t over yet. We have some more information coming out, Owen. Today, we put out some more information about the organization, itself and its funding.”
    Owen laments, “The Muskegon Police Department should be doing press conferences on this today. The American media should be knocking down the doors, saying, ‘What the Hell’s going on here?’
    “It’s so frustrating that when you have a massive story like this – and thank God for The Gateway Pundit making it the massive story that it is – but it’s like, where is the follow-up? Where is the law enforcement? Where is the American press? This is batcrap crazy, what you guys have!”
    “Exactly,” Jim agrees, “Again, this is from a police report, this isn’t something we just heard from so-and-so from so-and-so from so-and-so. This is a police report that we have. We posted both of the reports up on our website. You can read them for yourselves.”
    “It’s just shocking and like you said, in a community that’s 38- 40,000 people, to get a dump of registrations like this eight to ten thousand, just from one person…
    “We also know that this GBI Strategies Group, not only were they going to offices to city clerks’ offices and dropping off registrations, they were also mailing them out to counties they weren’t even in. So they were putting packages together and mailing them out across the State to different counties and we know they had sister offices across the State of Michigan.”
    Jim says that GBI Strategies’ founder, Gary Bell stated in one of his bios on a separate website that he had operations in 20 states. “So we can expect that this has been going on in 20 states. He also says he’s in charge of 70 organizations.
    “So, I suspect what the Left is doing here is that they’re using the same strategy as GBI Strategies and they’re re-naming themselves, re-branding themselves in different locations around the country…In my opinion, this is how Joe Biden is able to get 81 million votes; when you have people making up names, bringing them in and getting the registrations in there. So, I really believe that we hit paydirt, here.”
    Obviously, the Mainstream Media is ignoring this story, as is the Republican Party.
    Jim says, “It’s going to be very difficult for Trump to win – and I say, not just Trump, any Republican – obviously, because the Democrats, the apparatus they’ve set up for several sessions, now and if Republicans don’t wise up and start investigating and preventing some of this fraud that we’ve seen – and I really believe, Owen, it starts with the registrations.
    “It starts with fraudulent registrations and then it goes from there into fraudulent ballots. That’s how it works. It’s pretty easy. It’s certainly an easy way to flip an election, is if you have a lot of ballots that are not real people. That’s my opinion, again but I think Republicans need to act on this and that’s why we’re bringing this up.
    “Unfortunately, again, the Republican Party is not going to be doing anything on this. We know that. Ronna McDaniel doesn’t care, she really has no idea this is going on. Yesterday, this was the top story on Twitter for several hours and yet, I can guarantee you, Ronna McDaniel has no idea this is even out there.
    “So, we can’t count on them…It’s going to be up to the grass roots people at InfoWars, The Gateway Pundit and other places that are going ton have to do this work and figure this out, ourselves. We don’t have a party that’s with us, that’s going to support us and certainly, right now…the Biden Regime is trying to make it illegal for you to even discuss election irregularities in this country, so that has to stop.
    “But the only way we can stop things is if we win elections and the only way we’re going to do that is if we stop the fraud. So there’s my little soapbox speech but I really believe that that’s the truth, here. We have to figure out what they did, we have to stop it before 2024. That doesn’t give us a lot of time but I think we just landed on something that’s really important, here.”
    Owen agrees, saying, “The Democrats stuffed the ballots in the inner cities, that used Zuckerbucks and other ways to ‘get out the vote’, they sent out hundreds of these people to go to apartment buildings, old folks’ homes, retirement homes, they get them to register to vote.
    “But see, mail-in ballots is the key, here – or these drop-box loads of ballots is the key, here – because if they’re using voter registration fraud, well then you say, ‘Well, they have to still show up and vote.’ Not anymore!
    “Not anymore! So, now, they can just make up 10,000 votes and they just mail ’em in with their ‘2,000 Mules’. We’ve literally got them figured out. Who wants to investigate this? Who’s a criminal investigator that wants to actually investigate this and bring this out in court? Really, that’s all we’re waiting for.”
    Jim agrees but he says, “Unfortunately…in Michigan right now, they’ve made it illegal to even question the election. They’ve indicted these 12 to 16 Electors who are Republican Electors –”
    Owen butts in, “– Which just tells us that’s where all the fraud is. You caught ’em.” "


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    DeSantis Calls Trump Supporters ‘Listless Vessels,’ Sparking Comparisons to Hillary Clinton
    By Alice Giordano
    August 20, 2023 2024 Election
    https://www.ntd.com/desantis-calls-t...m_medium=email

    ( I'm not sure that was a good move on De Santis's part...it may rebound in Trump's favor, even though he also made some good points in his speech.)


    (Left) Former President Donald Trump speaks during the Alabama Republican Party’s 2023 Summer meeting at the Renaissance Montgomery Hotel in Montgomery, Ala., on Aug. 4, 2023. (Julie Bennett/Getty Images), (Right) Florida Governor and 2024 Republican Presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis speaks at the Republican Party of Iowa's 2023 Lincoln Dinner at the Iowa Events Center in Des Moines, Iowa, on July 28, 2023. (Sergio Flores/AFP via Getty Images)


    "MANCHESTER, N.H.—Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis took aim at supporters of rival candidate and former President Donald Trump on Aug. 19, calling them “listless vessels.”

    The comments sparked outrage among those in President Trump’s camp, with his campaign and a Trump-aligned super PAC demanding an apology from the Florida governor.

    “DeSantis goes full-blown Hillary and call[s] MAGA supporters ‘Listless Vessels,’” Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung posted on X, formerly known as Twitter, referring to Mr. DeSantis’s remarks made in an interview with The Florida Standard, a conservative media website.

    “A movement can’t be about the personality of one individual,” Mr. DeSantis said in the interview.

    “The movement has got to be about what are you trying to achieve on behalf of the American people and that’s got to be based in principle, because if you’re not rooted in principle, if all we are is listless vessels that’s just supposed to follow … whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning, that’s not going to be a durable movement,” he added.

    “Unless you’re kissing his rear end, they will somehow call you a RINO.”

    Karoline Leavitt, spokeswoman for President Trump’s Make America Great Again, Inc. took to X almost immediately after the interview, demanding an apology.

    “To Hillary Clinton, Trump supporters are ‘deplorables.’ To Ron DeSantis, they are ‘listless vessels.’ The truth is, Trump supporters are patriots,” Ms Leavitt said in a statement, referring to a notorious comment by Ms. Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign when the then-Democratic nominee called her Republican rival’s supporters a “basket of deplorables” who were “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.”

    “Looks like Ron DeSanctimonious just had his ‘Basket of Deplorables’ moment,” Jason Miller, an adviser to President Trump, wrote on X.

    Mr. DeSantis’s campaign responded, saying that the governor was referring to President Trump and his congressional supporters.

    “The dishonest media refuses to report the facts—Donald Trump and some congressional endorses are “listless vessels,” DeSantis campaign press secretary Bryan Griffin wrote on X.

    (Video here: https://www.ganjingworld.com/en-US/v...GcOgVxIGo1a41c )

    The controversy came a day after a leaked memo from a DeSantis PAC advising the Florida governor to defend President Trump at the first presidential debate against attacks by another GOP candidate, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

    Mr. DeSantis didn’t mention either controversy in his one-hour appearance at the town hall-style meet and greet held on Aug. 19 in New Hampshire’s working-class city, Manchester.

    Mr. DeSantis spent some time focusing on what he identified as a growing problem with government agencies and administrators who use policies and rules to sidestep laws established by the state legislature and U.S. Congress.

    He characterized it as a self-created and unauthorized fourth branch of government that operates outside the U.S. Constitution.

    “We need to make sure that our government operates the way our Founding Fathers intended, they did not create a fourth branch of government and administrative bureaucracy that wields power without accountability, he said, “A lot of the most important things in society are not done by your elected representatives. It’s done by nameless, faceless bureaucrats who impose rules and try to control people’s conduct.”

    As he has been doing more often lately, the 44-year-old also spoke briefly about his military tours of duty as a U.S. Navy JAG in Iraq as part of his reflection on the pride of American veterans being soured by a woke ideology that has dampened enlistment in the U.S. armed forces.

    The military, he said, has lost focus.

    “They’re engaging in social experimentation, political agendas; you have people training on pronouns; you have drag queens involved in recruiting for some of our services. What is going on?”

    Mr. DeSantis vowed that as president, he would restore the military’s focus on what he called “mission first.” If elected, “on day one,” he added, he would give “walking papers” to the director of the FBI, Americans would get a “new Department of Justice,” and he would put an end to government surveillance of parents who speak at school board meetings.

    He also called for the immediate firing of Dr. Anthony Fauci, who had served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) for decades before stepping down in 2022 after becoming a household name during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Mr. DeSantis said he needs to be held accountable for the “harm and destruction” he brought to Americans by pushing for lockdowns as a response to the pandemic. While he didn’t mention the COVID-19 vaccines, also heavily promoted by Dr. Fauci, DeSantis did say that he “considered the entire COVID response to be the ultimate test of liberty in our lifetime.”

    He also said that it was “okay if we don’t win” and that what was more important was that the Republican Party unifies and takes back the country.

    “The Democrats are playing for keeps,” he said. “If they win, they will have the U.S. Supreme Court, they’ll abolish the Electoral College, make [Washington, D.C.] a state, and eliminate voter ID. They’re playing for the whole enchilada here. We don’t want to be in a situation where we’re whining about what could have been. No more excuses. We need to get the job done.”

    Former New Hampshire state Rep. Michael Yakubovich,who was among those in attendance at Mr. DeSantis’s town hall event, told The Epoch Times that he believes DeSantis is the best candidate to lead the Republican party back to the White House.

    Mr. Yakubovich said he supported President Trump in the past but said he has “been a disappointment” in not speaking more strongly against the COVID lockdowns and vaccine mandates.

    He said when he looks at Mr. DeSantis’s track record as Florida governor, he sees a state in top economic condition and a politician with “no baggage.” With one child still left in high school, Yakubovich also said Mr. DeSantis’s track record for protecting parental rights is “a major draw for him.”

    Mr. Yakubovich won his primary for state Senate in 2022 but withdrew his candidacy after being diagnosed with liver cancer, which he is now battling.

    Others in the small crowd, like Heidi Marie of Hampton, New Hampshire, told The Epoch Times they still believe President Trump is the best candidate out of the pool of Republicans looking to win the 2024 party nomination.

    Mrs. Marie said she came to see Mr. DeSantis talk out of curiosity but called him “dead in the water.”

    The Florida governor has plenty of ground to make up in order to catch President Trump for the party nomination. Polls show him lagging by as much as 40 points behind the MAGA candidate, even with the indictments the 45th president has been slapped with.

    Mr. DeSantis mentioned nothing about President Trump’s reported decision not to participate in the first GOP debate. Mrs. Marie and others at the DeSantis event said she believed it was a wrong decision for President Trump.

    Former State Rep. Melissa Blasek, a well-known conservative New Hampshire Republican who introduced Mr. DeSantis, criticized President Trump for the decision not to participate in the debate.

    “We don’t live in a monarchy, yet Donald Trump is acting like he’s waiting for his coronation,” she said. “This is a primary, and it is our duty to choose the best conservative candidate, but unfortunately, Trump seems too scared to defend his record to Republican voters.”

    Mr. DeSantis has already indicated he will be participating in the Aug. 23 GOP debate.

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    Bike-Riding Arsonist IDENTIFIED in ‘Trump Won’ Yard Sign Burning.

    A cyclist suffering from a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome is in for some serious legal trouble...The bicyclist who was caught on video torching a “Trump Won” yard sign in Raleigh, North Carolina has been identified by a web sleuth after the alleged arsonist shared his bike-riding route and photographs on the cycling website Strava, leaving little doubt that a man who goes by the name of Jim White is behind the repeated attacks on the property of America First Patriot John Kane.

    As National File reported days ago, a “Trump Won” yard sign belonging to North Carolinian John Kane was repeatedly attacked by a then-unidentifed bicyclist, who made multiple return trips to Kane’s property in his attempts to destroy the sign. After initially being caught on a security camera kicking the sign several times, the cyclist returned to the scene of the crime to set the sign on fire.

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    Tucker And Trump Team Up To Upstage Fox's GOP Debate

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    WEDNESDAY, AUG 23, 2023 - 02:25 PM
    As you may have heard, former President Donald Trump is skipping Wednesday night's GOP debates, and will instead appear for an interview with Tucker Carlson - where the pair will undoubtedly upstage the current crop of GOP candidates, who according to current polls, have no chance in hell of receiving the Republican nomination.

    Former President Donald Trump confirmed in a social media post that his interview with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson will be released tonight (Aug. 23), just before the network's Republican presidential primary debate.

    The former president announced on Truth Social that his previously recorded interview with Mr. Carlson will broadcast at 9 p.m.

    “Sparks will fly,” President Trump wrote in his post about the interview, which will reportedly stream on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.



    "Many people are asking whether or not I will be doing the DEBATES?" Trump wrote on Truth Social last week.

    "ALL AMERICANS have been clamoring for a President of extremely High Intelligence. As everyone is aware, my Poll numbers, over a ‘wonderful’ field of Republican candidates, are extraordinary. In fact, I am leading the runner up, whoever that may now be, by more than 50 Points. Reagan didn’t do it, and neither did others. People know my Record, one of the BEST EVER, so why would I Debate? I’M YOUR MAN. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

    Of note, the former president now holds the largest lead over his rivals according to a CBS News poll released on Saturday, while his nearest rival - Florida Governor Ron DeSantis - has fallen even further behind.



    When it comes to Trump's multiple indictments, it's clear the right sees them as nothing more than a partisan attempt to dislodge him from the 2024 race. And with each new charge, Trump's status as a martyr (and ratings) continue to rise.

    First, as was the case with Trump's previous indictments, Republican primary voters' overwhelming concern about the Georgia charges is that they're politically motivated.

    They dismiss the premise of the charges: the bulk of them do think Trump tried to stay in office, but to them, it was legal and constitutional because these Republican primary voters overwhelmingly think President Biden didn't win legitimately. -CBS News

    When asked whether the GOP candidates should argue the case for themselves, 91% agreed, vs. 9% who said they should talk trash against Trump.

    < much more at link >


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