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    What did Christie mean by this?


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    https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/171...511295731?s=20



    As I successfully fight these Political Opponent Lawsuits, all created and started by Crooked Joe Biden and his group of Radical Left Thugs, I realize how insignificant they are compared to the horror of what is going on with Israel and the Middle East, where thousands of people have so needlessly died, in a war that should have NEVER STARTED, and millions could very easily follow, all due to the highly incompetent Biden Administration and their policies of Weakness and Appeasement (and of being just plain STUPID!). This is true also with Ukraine/Russia, which would NEVER HAVE STARTED under the Trump Administration, and many other “hot spots” around the globe that could easily lead to big problems and death. Even INFLATION, a killer in its own right, would not have happened. So let them keep suing me over BULL****, in their hope of Election Interference, as our Country becomes disabled and dies. We will successfully fight it all, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, GREATER THAN EVER BEFORE!
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    https://x.com/WarlordDilley/status/1...808627102?s=20

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    https://apnews.com/article/trump-ins...58378c65fd79a2
    Donald Trump banned from Colorado ballot in historic ruling by state’s Supreme Court

    By NICHOLAS RICCARDI
    Updated 8:44 PM EST, December 19, 2023


    DENVER (AP) — A divided Colorado Supreme Court on Tuesday declared former President Donald Trump ineligible for the White House under the U.S. Constitution’s insurrection clause and removed him from the state’s presidential primary ballot, setting up a likely showdown in the nation’s highest court to decide whether the front-runner for the GOP nomination can remain in the race.

    The decision from a court whose justices were all appointed by Democratic governors marks the first time in history that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment has been used to disqualify a presidential candidate.

    “A majority of the court holds that Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment,” the court wrote in its 4-3 decision.

    Colorado’s highest court overturned a ruling from a district court judge who found that Trump incited an insurrection for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, but said he could not be barred from the ballot because it was unclear that the provision was intended to cover the presidency.

    The court stayed its decision until Jan. 4, or until the U.S. Supreme Court rules on the case. Colorado officials say the issue must be settled by Jan. 5, the deadline for the state to print its presidential primary ballots.

    “We do not reach these conclusions lightly,” wrote the court’s majority. “We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us. We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach.”

    Trump’s attorneys had promised to appeal any disqualification immediately to the nation’s highest court, which has the final say about constitutional matters.

    Trump’s legal spokeswoman Alina Habba said in a statement Tuesday night: “This ruling, issued by the Colorado Supreme Court, attacks the very heart of this nation’s democracy. It will not stand, and we trust that the Supreme Court will reverse this unconstitutional order.”

    Trump didn’t mention the decision during a rally Tuesday evening in Waterloo, Iowa, but his campaign sent out a fundraising email citing what it called a “tyrannical ruling.”

    Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel labeled the decision “Election interference” and said the RNC’s legal team intends to help Trump fight the ruling.

    Trump lost Colorado by 13 percentage points in 2020 and doesn’t need the state to win next year’s presidential election. But the danger for the former president is that more courts and election officials will follow Colorado’s lead and exclude Trump from must-win states.

    Dozens of lawsuits have been filed nationally to disqualify Trump under Section 3, which was designed to keep former Confederates from returning to government after the Civil War. It bars from office anyone who swore an oath to “support” the Constitution and then “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” against it, and has been used only a handful of times since the decade after the Civil War.

    “I think it may embolden other state courts or secretaries to act now that the bandage has been ripped off,” Derek Muller, a Notre Dame law professor who has closely followed the Section 3 cases, said after Tuesday’s ruling. “This is a major threat to Trump’s candidacy.”

    The Colorado case is the first where the plaintiffs succeeded. After a weeklong hearing in November, District Judge Sarah B. Wallace found that Trump indeed had “engaged in insurrection” by inciting the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, and her ruling that kept him on the ballot was a fairly technical one.

    Trump’s attorneys convinced Wallace that, because the language in Section 3 refers to “officers of the United States” who take an oath to “support” the Constitution, it must not apply to the president, who is not included as an “officer of the United States” elsewhere in the document and whose oath is to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution.

    The provision also says offices covered include senator, representative, electors of the president and vice president, and all others “under the United States,” but doesn’t name the presidency.

    The state’s highest court didn’t agree, siding with attorneys for six Colorado Republican and unaffiliated voters who argued that it was nonsensical to imagine that the framers of the amendment, fearful of former confederates returning to power, would bar them from low-level offices but not the highest one in the land.

    “President Trump asks us to hold that Section 3 disqualifies every oathbreaking insurrectionist except the most powerful one and that it bars oath-breakers from virtually every office, both state and federal, except the highest one in the land,” the court’s majority opinion said. “Both results are inconsistent with the plain language and history of Section 3.”

    The left-leaning group that brought the Colorado case, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, hailed the ruling.

    “Our Constitution clearly states that those who violate their oath by attacking our democracy are barred from serving in government,” its president, Noah Bookbinder, said in a statement.

    Trump’s attorneys also had urged the Colorado high court to reverse Wallace’s ruling that Trump incited the Jan. 6 attack. His lawyers argued the then-president had simply been using his free speech rights and hadn’t called for violence. Trump attorney Scott Gessler also argued the attack was more of a “riot” than an insurrection.

    That met skepticism from several of the justices.

    “Why isn’t it enough that a violent mob breached the Capitol when Congress was performing a core constitutional function?” Justice William W. Hood III said during the Dec. 6 arguments. “In some ways, that seems like a poster child for insurrection.”

    In the ruling issued Tuesday, the court’s majority dismissed the arguments that Trump wasn’t responsible for his supporters’ violent attack, which was intended to halt Congress’ certification of the presidential vote: “President Trump then gave a speech in which he literally exhorted his supporters to fight at the Capitol,” they wrote.

    Colorado Supreme Court Justices Richard L. Gabriel, Melissa Hart, Monica Márquez and Hood ruled for the petitioners. Chief Justice Brian D. Boatright dissented, arguing the constitutional questions were too complex to be solved in a state hearing. Justices Maria E. Berkenkotter and Carlos Samour also dissented.

    “Our government cannot deprive someone of the right to hold public office without due process of law,” Samour wrote in his dissent. “Even if we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past — dare I say, engaged in insurrection — there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office.”

    The Colorado ruling stands in contrast with the Minnesota Supreme Court, which last month decided that the state party can put anyone it wants on its primary ballot. It dismissed a Section 3 lawsuit but said the plaintiffs could try again during the general election.

    In another 14th Amendment case, a Michigan judge ruled that Congress, not the judiciary, should decide whether Trump can stay on the ballot. That ruling is being appealed. The liberal group behind those cases, Free Speech For People, also filed another lawsuit in Oregon seeking to bounce Trump from the ballot there.

    Both groups are financed by liberal donors who also support President Joe Biden. Trump has blamed the president for the lawsuits against him, even though Biden has no role in them, saying his rival is “defacing the constitution” to try to end his campaign.

    Trump’s allies rushed to his defense, slamming the decision as “un-American” and “insane” and part of a politically-motivated effort to destroy his candidacy.

    “Four partisan Democrat operatives on the Colorado Supreme Court think they get to decide for all Coloradans and Americans the next presidential election,” House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik said in a statement.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    “We do not reach these conclusions lightly,” wrote the court’s majority. “We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us. We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach.”
    what horrible liars they are - drowning in corruption -

    we see again why the Jan 6th 'operation' by various colluding parties like the Globalists/Democrats/FBI/CIA etc to create mayhem and brand concerned citizens as insurrectionists was so important to the liars and cheats....

    to divert attention away from their election rigging crimes and set the scene for exactly what's happening now in Colorado...

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    copying here

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/stat...69073208877204




    Viva Frei

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    1) Trump was never convicted of “insurrection”
    2) No one involved in Jan. 6 was convicted of “insurrection”
    3) Trump was never charged with “insurrection”
    4) No one involved in Jan. 6 was charged with “insurrection”

    5) Trump was acquitted on the 2nd impeachment on charges that related to the events of Jan. 6
    6) The 14th Amendment Sec. 3 does not apply to the President.

    That is all anyone needs to understand.


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    more here

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    Colorado Supreme Court Disqualifies Trump From 2024 Ballot, Setting Up Supreme Court Challenge

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    WEDNESDAY, DEC 20, 2023 - 09:11 AM
    The Colorado Supreme Court has disqualified Donald Trump from Colorado’s 2024 presidential election ballot, and in a 4-3 ruling has effectively blocked Trump from seeking the presidency because of his role in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, citing the post-Civil War-era 14th Amendment to the US Constitution that bans insurrectionists from holding public office. The Colorado case was the first constitutional challenge to Trump’s 2024 run to go through a full trial.

    Voters, represented by the advocacy group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics, had argued he should be barred from the ballot for inciting the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol.

    Colorado’s highest court - whose seven-member bench was entirely appointed by Democratic governors - overturned a ruling from a district court judge who found that Trump incited an insurrection for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, but said he could not be barred from the ballot because it was unclear that the provision was intended to cover the presidency.

    In its ruling, the Democrat-controlled court found that Trump engaged in insurrection by inflaming his supporters with false claims of election fraud and directing them to the Capitol. The state justices determined that the office of the president is covered under the insurrection clause, which specifically lists those who previously took oaths to support the Constitution as “a member of Congress,” “officer of the United States,” “member of any State legislature” or an “executive or judicial officer of any State.” The district court had previously ruled that the office of the president was not covered under the clause.

    The majority opinion was unsigned but joined by four of the seven justices.

    Three justices dissented from Tuesday’s decision: Chief Justice Brian Boatright, Carlos Samour and Justice Maria Berkenkotter. Each wrote separate dissents taking issue with how the plaintiffs brought their 14th Amendment lawsuit using a provision of Colorado election law.

    Berkenkotter wrote that “the majority construes the court’s authority too broadly.”

    “The questions presented here simply reach a magnitude of complexity not contemplated by the Colorado General Assembly for its election code enforcement statute,” wrote Boatright. “The proceedings below ran counter to the letter and spirit of the statutory timeframe because the Electors’ claim overwhelmed the process.”

    Samour similarly wrote that Colorado’s election law provides no “engine” for such a lawsuit, also noting that no federal legislation existed to enforce the 14th Amendment’s insurrection clause.

    “Even if we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past—dare I say, engaged in insurrection—there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office. Procedural due process is one of the aspects of America’s democracy that sets this country apart,” Samour wrote.

    Ironically, all this ruling will do is further cement Trump's status as leading presidential candidate as it not only affirms his status as target #1 of the Biden Department of Justice and liberal court system, but will test the Conservative-dominated Supreme Court appeal over its interpretation of the 14th Amendment, which according to many including a Colorado District court, does not apply to the Presidency.

    Indeed, as Vivek Ramaswami observed, the 14th Amendment was part of the “Reconstruction Amendments” that were ratified following the Civil War. "It was passed to prohibit former Confederate military and political leaders from holding high federal or state office. These men had clearly taken part in a rebellion against the United States: the Civil War. That makes it all the more absurd that a left-wing group in Colorado is asking a federal court to disqualify the 45th President on the same grounds, equating his speech to rebellion against the United States."

    And there’s another legal problem: Trump is not a former “officer of the United States,” as that term is used in the Constitution, meaning Section 3 does not apply. As the Supreme Court explained in Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (2010), an “officer of the United States” is someone appointed by the President to aid him in his duties under Article II, Section 2. The term does not apply to elected officials, and certainly not to the President himself.

    The Framers of the 14th Amendment would be appalled to see this narrow provision—intended to bar former U.S. officials who switched to the Confederacy from seeking public office—being weaponized by a sitting President and his political allies to prevent a former President from seeking reelection. Our country is becoming unrecognizable to our Founding Fathers.

    The court put its ruling on hold until Jan. 4, so Trump can first seek review from the Supreme Court, which he will. Until then, Trump’s name automatically remains on the ballot until the justices resolve the appeal.

    “We do not reach these conclusions lightly,” wrote the court’s majority. “We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us. We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach.”

    Naturally, Trump’s campaign immediately denounced the ruling.

    “Unsurprisingly, the all-Democrat appointed Colorado Supreme Court has ruled against President Trump, supporting a Soros-funded, left-wing group’s scheme to interfere in an election on behalf of Crooked Joe Biden by removing President Trump’s name from the ballot and eliminating the rights of Colorado voters to vote for the candidate of their choice,” a campaign spokesman, Steven Cheung, said.

    “We have full confidence that the U.S. Supreme Court will quickly rule in our favor and finally put an end to these un-American lawsuits."

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    That's LAWFARE at full blast.

    Everybody knows this, even most Democrat voters and Leftists.

    Will they get through with it?

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...rns-backfiring

    Ramaswamy Threatens To Boycott Colorado Primary, Turley Rages, And Luntz Warns Of 'Backfiring' Lawfare Against Trump

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    https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status...679804043?s=20



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    "This country is a powder keg and this court is just throwing matches at it. This is hands down the most anti-democratic opinions I’ve seen in my lifetime.”
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    Despite all of the hand wringing of victory, and the pearl clutching of outrage, the #ColoradoSupremeCourt decisions literally states that it will never go into action IN THE DECISION.

    What I thought was interesting 👇👇👇

    🚨ALL of the dissenting judges graduated from University of Denver Law School.
    💥ALL of those who signed onto the ruling went to Ivy or old guard East Coast schools (Harvard/Yale/UPenn/UVa).

    Wonder what that means...?


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    .


    I caught this report on GB News earlier...

    in the bit starting around 2:30 ...political adviser Steve Gill says that the Republicans in Colorado aren't bothered and say that if the Supreme Court doesn't rule against the decision to keep Trump off the Primary ballot - they will go on to a caucus system, vote him in and have him on the Election Ballot in November regardless....

    I haven't seen all that much about this ridiculous attack on Trump and democracy but I haven't seen the above stated anywhere else...?


    Trump 'DISQUALIFIED' from running in Colorado by 'deranged' judges in 'ASSAULT on democracy'




    Quote Political Advisor Steve Gill says the Democrats are 'opening Pandora's box' by using the courts to deprive voters the choice to elect the candidate of their choice.

    so........is this crazy Democrat/Globalist plot doomed to failure and will it just inflame voters and make the Dems look even worse than they do already ?

    (if that's possible)

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    ^ this has caucus coverage

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...t-trump-ballot


    Colorado GOP Unveils 'Caucus' Loophole After State Supremes Boot Trump From Ballot

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    WEDNESDAY, DEC 20, 2023 - 01:10 PM
    In response to the Colorado Supreme Court's decision to bar former President Donald Trump from appearing on state ballots, the Colorado Republican Party has trotted out a loophole - whereby they'll switch from a primary ballot system to a caucus system.

    In response to candidate Vivek Ramaswamy's threat to pull out of the Colorado GOP primary ballot until Trump is allowed back on, the Colorado Republican Party responded: "You won't have to because we will withdraw from the Primary as a Party and convert to a pure caucus system if this is allowed to stand."

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    .

    Just seen this and it could still get messy - see bolded below -

    https://coloradosun.com/2023/12/20/c...mary-withdraw/

    Quote Colorado GOP threatens to withdraw from or ignore state’s presidential primary if Trump isn’t on the ballot

    The state party would have to ask the Republican National Committee for a waiver to make the change. There would also likely be a legal showdown with state election officials.

    he Colorado GOP is threatening to try to withdraw from Colorado’s Republican presidential primary in March — or ignore the results — if Donald Trump isn’t on the ballot, heaping uncertainty onto the fast-approaching contest and setting up a possible legal showdown with state elections officials.

    The Colorado Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that Trump can’t appear on the ballot because he engaged in an insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and therefore is disqualified from holding office again. The decision will be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, but there’s little time for a resolution before the Jan. 5 state deadline to set the ballot. Ballots start being mailed to military and overseas voters on Jan. 20. Election Day is March 5.

    Colorado GOP Chairman Dave Williams told The Colorado Sun on Tuesday night that if Trump isn’t on the ballot, the party would ask the state to cancel the Republican presidential primary. Instead, Republican voters would caucus to select delegates to the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee next year.

    There are 37 delegates up for grabs from the state.

    “’I’m not going to let these sons of bitches dictate who we’re going to nominate,” Williams said in an X Spaces event Tuesday night on the site formerly known as Twitter.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Williams told The Sun that if Trump isn’t on the ballot and the Colorado Secretary of State’s Office won’t cancel the Republican presidential primary, “we will ignore the primary” results.

    The Colorado Secretary of State’s Office said the Colorado GOP couldn’t withdraw from the presidential primary and that it has doubts about whether the party can ignore the primary results.

    “Colorado law does not allow a presidential primary election to be canceled at the request of a political party,” the office said in a written statement Wednesday. “If the Colorado Republican Party attempts to withdraw from the presidential primary or ignore the results of the election, this would likely be a matter for the courts.”

    State law says “each political party shall use the results of the (presidential primary) election to allocate national delegate votes in accordance with the party’s state and national rules.”


    The legal and political uncertainty highlights how the Colorado Supreme Court’s ruling marks the first time that the insurrection clause has been used to block a presidential candidate from appearing on the ballot.

    The Colorado Supreme Court’s ruling is stayed until Jan. 4. The court ordered that the stay remain in place, and that the Colorado Secretary of State’s Office must place Trump’s name on the ballot, if its decision is appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Since an appeal is imminent, the U.S. Supreme Court would have to block Trump from Colorado’s primary ballot in the next three weeks for Williams’ threat to be relevant.

    Quote Before it could even try to use a caucus process to pick delegates to the national convention, the Colorado GOP would have to get a waiver from the Republican National Committee. The Colorado GOP filed an alternative delegate apportionment plan with the RNC as an insurance policy against the Colorado case challenging Trump’s spot on the ballot.

    The waiver appears likely to be granted.

    RNC Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel said on X on Tuesday night that the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision was “election interference.”

    “The Republican nominee will be decided by Republican voters, not a partisan state court,” she said.

    Looks like the closer the 2024 election gets the more corrupt and desperate the Democrats/Globalists and their puppets become -

    They must wholeheartedly believe (and fear) that with a level playing field (aka no cheating) - Trump would have a landslide victory to beat all landslide victories...

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    It's not just the Democrats that eat their own, Republicans are doing it to. They are trying to oust and disqualify their own popular politicians and it was a Republican who worked to have Trump taken off the ballot.

    Kim Iversen does an excellent job of breaking it all down:
    • the history of the 14th Amendment

    • what is the likelihood that Trump will be on the ballot in Colorado and how this will be challenged (by going to the Supreme Court)

    • what this could mean in other states


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    From Glen Greenwald: How a highly partisan judge fixed the decision to have Trump removed from the ballot. Her decision reads like an episode of the Rachel Maddow show. (9 minutes)


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    Another partisan state official uses her power to remove from the ballot. This time in Maine.


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    coping here (Bellows is who single handedly took Trump off the Maine ballot)

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    https://x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status...415122225?s=20




    KanekoaTheGreat
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    @shennabellows says America is experiencing an epidemic of election disinformation, citing a claim that ES&S voting machines are connected to the internet in Kentucky.

    There's only one problem.

    On January 10, 2020, NBC News reported that ES&S was utilizing 14,000 modems to establish internet connections for voting machines, including in the State of Kentucky.

    In February 2018, the New York Times detailed ES&S's installation of remote access software on their election management systems.

    Further damning evidence surfaced in March 2018 when ES&S admitted, in a letter to Senator Ron Wyden, that remote access software had indeed been installed on their election management systems.

    Furthermore, all computerized voting equipment can be hacked because all such equipment must receive programming before each election from memory cards or USB drives prepared on election management systems, which are often old computers connected to the internet running out-of-date versions of Windows.

    Computers are hackable.

    Suppose a county election management computer is infected with malware.

    In that case, the malware can spread from that system to the USB drives, transferring it to all the voting machines, optical scanners, and tabulators that collect, count, and determine election results for that county.

    All of these problems are exacerbated by manufacturers, having also installed remote-access software and cellular modems connecting voting machines directly to the internet.

    This is the problem with the authoritarian left's goal of censoring dissidents, critics, and their political opposition.

    Shenna Bellows would censor American citizens from telling the truth about real election vulnerabilities while she perpetuates an epidemic of election disinformation.

    Not to mention, she disenfranchised half of Maine's citizens by unilaterally deciding they can't vote for their leading presidential candidate.




    https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/174...071306383?s=20



    Maine's Secretary of State Faces Immense Backlash for Kicking Donald Trump off the Ballot

    Democrat Shenna Bellows unilaterally decided that Trump was guilty of insurrection.

    The Trump campaign's Steven Cheung fired back:

    "The Maine secretary of state is a former ACLU attorney, a virulent leftist, and a hyperpartisan Biden-supporting Democrat who has decided to interfere in the presidential election on behalf of crooked Joe Biden."



    https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1740...834888539?s=20

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    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard were both popular on this forum until their views on Zionism, Israel and genocide became clear. They have a lot in common on their political stances. Would RFK Jr. run on the same ticket with Tulsi as VP? He is about to take a trip to Honolulu (in her home state) and wouldn't that be the time to make such an announcement?


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    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1...093110614?s=20



    Ep. 65 What the results in Iowa mean.

    Quote Real Mac Report
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    Tucker Carlson on Iowa results: "Last night was not so close. It was a shocking blowout. Trump did to Iowa what the Vikings once did to the Irish coast. Only smoldering huts remained. Chris Wallace looked like he was going to be sick."

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ments-position

    Iowa Caucus: Trump's Landslide Victory Cements Position

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    TUESDAY, JAN 16, 2024 - 10:40 AM
    Former President Donald Trump's landslide victory in Iowa last night left no doubt that he'll be the party's nominee against President Joe Biden in the general election. With 97% of the votes counted, Trump came in at 51%.



    Coming in second was Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (21.2%), followed by former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley (19.1%) - who fell below expectations based on recent polls which had her in second place. Vivek Ramaswamy came in fourth, after which he dropped out. Notably, Trump's 30-point victory is the largest in the history of the Iowa caucuses.

    < more at link >



    https://x.com/patel_patriot/status/1...379934080?s=20





    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/...100328222?s=20





    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ucus-landslide

    Watch: Maddow Melts Down Over "Rise Of Fascism"; Joy Reid Says Trump Iowa Caucus Landslide Proves White Christians Are Racists

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    TUESDAY, JAN 16, 2024 - 09:25 AM
    In an early glimpse of what to expect from coverage of this election, MSNBC and CNN hosts went into full rage mode with the Iowa caucus results.

    Leftist hack Rachel Maddow complained about a “rise of fascism” after Donald Trump easily won the Iowa Caucus in a landslide over his Republican opponents.




    < snip >

    Additionally, as @TexasLindsay_ posted on X: "Rachel Maddow admits on air that they’ve decided to censor the leading Republican candidate’s victory speech and will decide what they want the public to know later. This why no one trusts the media—their tactics are exactly like 1984."

    Maddow was not alone in her melt-down-ness...

    As Jonathan Turley reports, MSNBC host Joy Reid led this effort by declaring that “White Christians” are racists who want minorities to “bow down” to them.

    Reid asked about this manifest racism of white Christians in a conversation with Robert “Robbie” Jones, the president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and author of “The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy.”

    Reid explained to anyone who was confused about their white Christian neighbors:

    “All the things that we think about, about electability, about what are people gaming out, but none of that matters when you believe that God has given you this country, that it is yours, and that everyone who is not a White, conservative Christian is a fraudulent American, is a less real American.

    Then you don’t care about electability. You care about what God has given you.”

    She later added

    “It is religion And I think what we have to actually confront – and this is what the Democrats are going to face – is this is now what White evangelicalism is. It is Christian nationalism. That’s the name of it, right?”

    It is all part of “White evangelical Christians of a certain mindset … that they own this country, that immigrants, that Brown people, that Hindus like Vivek Ramaswamy and his wife are illegitimate Americans. They are less legitimate Americans than they are...

    They’re not trying to convince people and win people over through politics. What they’re saying is, ‘We own this country, and everyone will bow down to us.’”

    ...

    As we look at the rising anger in this country, this is a good part of it. In our echo chambered coverage, viewers hear of the effort to suppress all minorities (including apparently minority GOP presidential candidates) and how this “may be our last election.” Yet, these same hosts will denounce others for their reckless language as the fuel racist and rage rhetoric.

    Much like our politics, our media often seems captured by the most extreme elements of our society.

    It explains why media is now at an all-time low in terms of trust.

    However, the most concerning aspect is that this is just the beginning of January. We have to make it to November.


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