Mars Colonists Will Be The Richest Humans Alive!

[ozmirage]

Elon Musk funding space exploration = good
Focusing on a Mars colony = not as good
Establishing a means of inexpensive exploration of solar system = good
Establishing a lower cost launch into orbit = good
Constructing large orbital habitats and vivariums = much better

In terms of resources and benefits, colonizing a planet’s surface, down a “gravity well” is wasteful. Whereas once in orbit, outside of a planet’s gravity well, travel is much more efficient. (Interplanetary Transport Network)
Converting raw materials into hollow habitats is far more viable than adapting to harsh conditions on the surface of non-terrestrial planets and moons.

Shielding issue resolution - materials rich in hydrogen make the best radiation shields. Metals have a problem with secondary radiation - like generating X-rays. One remedy would be to surround the habitat with a water shield. A cylindrical spinning habitat could have its outermost shell filled with water - a celestial ocean. Not only would it shield against radiation, but it would be useful for maintaining equilibrium as internal masses shift. And if punctured by a micrometeorite, an icicle would plug the hole (if not in direct sunlight).
Downside - no windows. Which contradicts all those artist’s conceptions of pastoral space habitats with huge glazed sections.


all WRONG!

[Ratszinger]

Women have an average 28 day cycle on earth said to be regulated by the sun and the moon and our system that regulates aging, bio rythms and more such as the length of each day, week, month, year. I'm puzzled that people think they can just pack up earth women and move them to mars thinking they can adapt to multiple moons, a sun frequency completely different to our own not to mention the moons varying frequencies and not to forget a different length to the day, week, year and more. It need not be even mentioned that men also very likely have a average cycle normally measured daily by science today but as early as the 17th century science knew and suggested men have an average 33 day cycle but they don't have a menstrual cycle to prove it.

Let me make a prediction. Women and men will live on mars like time sharing. It will be discovered that as they stay there that the women living there will start to notice their period becoming unpredictable. They will happen at the weirdest times and eventually they will report that their periods have stopped altogether. In time shortly after this they'll all begin to become mentally unstable probably eventually leading to having to put them under watch as a security problem for the mission at times. Men in time will experience symptoms of this also and eventually Musk and others will have to order them home and the team from earth out to replace them on the teams. The people on earth will recuperate and eventually have to return once more for the time they can stay there.

I don't think there is any way women of earth are going to be reproducing babies on mars. With no menstrual cycle and people getting mentally unstable around them cloning will be out of the question also. The question remains. What moon will regulate women on mars so they could reproduce or could they even adapt before the change and shock to their system from an entirely foreign environment in another system kills them? I mean science here and even some of the ancient peoples knew that the sun can change frequency here right near us in our own system and cause infertility cycles. So what makes these same guys think that sending our women or female animals to another system with a different frequency will allow them to reproduce there? I just don't see it happening. And due to this I also don't see us ever being visited by biological life. If and when we meet an alien civilization they'll likely be as locked to their system as we ours and who or what we meet will simply be their AI that is very advanced exploring the galaxies for them. The AI will intercede communications between distant biological lifeforms in environments that should we go there would be toxic to us.

[ozmirage]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
Women have an average 28 day cycle on earth said to be regulated by the sun and the moon and our system that regulates aging, bio rythms and more such as the length of each day, week, month, year. I'm puzzled that people think they can just pack up earth women and move them to mars thinking they can adapt to multiple moons, a sun frequency completely different to our own not to mention the moons varying frequencies and not to forget a different length to the day, week, year and more.

ON THE ISS - - - traveling at a speed of five miles per second, orbiting Earth about every 90 minutes.
It turns out that while most systems in the human body are heavily affected during spaceflight, the female menstrual cycle doesn't seem to change at all.

TWO or More women

Menstrual synchrony, also called the McClintock effect, or the Wellesley effect, is a process whereby women who begin living together in close proximity would experience their menstrual cycle onsets (the onset of menstruation or menses) synchronized together over time.

The Moon takes about one month to orbit Earth (27.3 days to complete a revolution, but 29.5 days to change from New Moon to New Moon). As the Moon completes each 27.3-day orbit around Earth, both Earth and the Moon are moving around the Sun.

Earth's orbit = 365.25636 solar days

Does Earth's orbital period change?
Earth's Orbital Shifts on a 405,000-Year Clock. Earth's orbit is eccentric, meaning it has changed repeatedly over time. Nudged by the gravitation of Jupiter, Mars, Venus and other planets, our world's axial tilt and precession are always slowly shifting.

In short, the disconnect from terrestrial cycles is not an issue.

[ExomatrixTV]

One of the reasons I like Elon's team to go to Mars is ... that there is a chance "The Deep State" can not control what they find out what they discover over there!

[Ratszinger]

Posted by ozmirage (here)

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
Women have an average 28 day cycle on earth said to be regulated by the sun and the moon and our system that regulates aging, bio rythms and more such as the length of each day, week, month, year. I'm puzzled that people think they can just pack up earth women and move them to mars thinking they can adapt to multiple moons, a sun frequency completely different to our own not to mention the moons varying frequencies and not to forget a different length to the day, week, year and more.

ON THE ISS - - - traveling at a speed of five miles per second, orbiting Earth about every 90 minutes.
It turns out that while most systems in the human body are heavily affected during spaceflight, the female menstrual cycle doesn't seem to change at all.

TWO or More women

Menstrual synchrony, also called the McClintock effect, or the Wellesley effect, is a process whereby women who begin living together in close proximity would experience their menstrual cycle onsets (the onset of menstruation or menses) synchronized together over time.

The Moon takes about one month to orbit Earth (27.3 days to complete a revolution, but 29.5 days to change from New Moon to New Moon). As the Moon completes each 27.3-day orbit around Earth, both Earth and the Moon are moving around the Sun.

Earth's orbit = 365.25636 solar days

Does Earth's orbital period change?
Earth's Orbital Shifts on a 405,000-Year Clock. Earth's orbit is eccentric, meaning it has changed repeatedly over time. Nudged by the gravitation of Jupiter, Mars, Venus and other planets, our world's axial tilt and precession are always slowly shifting.

In short, the disconnect from terrestrial cycles is not an issue.

ISS is within our own system still in the same frequency that regulates all of us here. Just wait til they leave our system for a new one. We'll see then and probably within a few years.

[ozmirage]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)

Posted by ozmirage (here)

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
Women have an average 28 day cycle on earth said to be regulated by the sun and the moon and our system that regulates aging, bio rythms and more such as the length of each day, week, month, year. I'm puzzled that people think they can just pack up earth women and move them to mars thinking they can adapt to multiple moons, a sun frequency completely different to our own not to mention the moons varying frequencies and not to forget a different length to the day, week, year and more.

ON THE ISS - - - traveling at a speed of five miles per second, orbiting Earth about every 90 minutes.
It turns out that while most systems in the human body are heavily affected during spaceflight, the female menstrual cycle doesn't seem to change at all.

TWO or More women

Menstrual synchrony, also called the McClintock effect, or the Wellesley effect, is a process whereby women who begin living together in close proximity would experience their menstrual cycle onsets (the onset of menstruation or menses) synchronized together over time.

The Moon takes about one month to orbit Earth (27.3 days to complete a revolution, but 29.5 days to change from New Moon to New Moon). As the Moon completes each 27.3-day orbit around Earth, both Earth and the Moon are moving around the Sun.

Earth's orbit = 365.25636 solar days

Does Earth's orbital period change?
Earth's Orbital Shifts on a 405,000-Year Clock. Earth's orbit is eccentric, meaning it has changed repeatedly over time. Nudged by the gravitation of Jupiter, Mars, Venus and other planets, our world's axial tilt and precession are always slowly shifting.

In short, the disconnect from terrestrial cycles is not an issue.

ISS is within our own system still in the same frequency that regulates all of us here. Just wait til they leave our system for a new one. We'll see then and probably within a few years.

Do you not realize that they orbit in 90 minutes?
In 24 hours, they've had 16 sunrises and sunsets. Ditto for moon rises and moon sets.
There is NO correlation with the lunar orbital period around the earth.
SIGH.

[Ratszinger]

Posted by ozmirage (here)

Posted by Ratszinger (here)

Posted by ozmirage (here)

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
Women have an average 28 day cycle on earth said to be regulated by the sun and the moon and our system that regulates aging, bio rythms and more such as the length of each day, week, month, year. I'm puzzled that people think they can just pack up earth women and move them to mars thinking they can adapt to multiple moons, a sun frequency completely different to our own not to mention the moons varying frequencies and not to forget a different length to the day, week, year and more.

ON THE ISS - - - traveling at a speed of five miles per second, orbiting Earth about every 90 minutes.
It turns out that while most systems in the human body are heavily affected during spaceflight, the female menstrual cycle doesn't seem to change at all.

TWO or More women

Menstrual synchrony, also called the McClintock effect, or the Wellesley effect, is a process whereby women who begin living together in close proximity would experience their menstrual cycle onsets (the onset of menstruation or menses) synchronized together over time.

The Moon takes about one month to orbit Earth (27.3 days to complete a revolution, but 29.5 days to change from New Moon to New Moon). As the Moon completes each 27.3-day orbit around Earth, both Earth and the Moon are moving around the Sun.

Earth's orbit = 365.25636 solar days

Does Earth's orbital period change?
Earth's Orbital Shifts on a 405,000-Year Clock. Earth's orbit is eccentric, meaning it has changed repeatedly over time. Nudged by the gravitation of Jupiter, Mars, Venus and other planets, our world's axial tilt and precession are always slowly shifting.

In short, the disconnect from terrestrial cycles is not an issue.

ISS is within our own system still in the same frequency that regulates all of us here. Just wait til they leave our system for a new one. We'll see then and probably within a few years.

Do you not realize that they orbit in 90 minutes?
In 24 hours, they've had 16 sunrises and sunsets. Ditto for moon rises and moon sets.
There is NO correlation with the lunar orbital period around the earth.
SIGH.

You don't seem to realize that while within the earth system none of that matters. They are still regulated by the earth not what ISS does. Just wait until they get well away from earth and her frequencies and the moons and get into a new planetary system! They are still living within our planet system right here of course they are all fne other than stretching over time getting taller due to no gravity situations. When new moons interfere with their bio clocks, which we all have and are all regulated by the sun and moon and planet system here where we are native from, where we were born. Floating around outside our planet an ear shot away isn't enough. When a new planet and new moons and a completely different and confusing set of frequencies all take over our bodies will probably begin going into a shock.

This is not different than ancient stories of gods coming down to earth and having to hybridize with a being from here to survive man! Why did they have to do that? Because they were from another planet system and couldn't adapt to live here and reproduce as they were and they realized that! We will be in the same exact boat they found themselves in man! Just how it is going to be. Musk should be quite aware of this and if not I can't imagine the shock when he discovers a problem with reproduction on another planet.

[Hughe]

@Ratszinger



All life forms on Earth are like fishes in the ocean. The ocean is electromagnetic environment of Earth, which is invisible and has no smell or pressure but it affects the life at the atomic level. The astronauts who live in the ISS (International Space Station) are about 300 km above the surface of Earth which is considered at the bottom of the ocean. Real 'space' starts at 20,000 km above the surface.

Space travel and migration to other planets or moons are delusional idea that will kill many humans. Mankind needs to develop gravity manipulation and construction of electromagnetic environment before humans venture into space exploration. The acclimatization duration will takes hundreds to a thousand years for a target planet, i.e. Mars.

[ozmirage]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
You don't seem to realize that while within the earth system none of that matters. They are still regulated by the earth not what ISS does.

The facts don't fit your opinion. The solar and lunar cycles are based on what one experiences, not because they're there.
And there are other opinions on what the REAL source of our cycles are.
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Richard C. Hoagland’s book “The Monuments of Mars - A City on the Edge of Forever,’ raised an interesting point. The Martian day is very close to the circadian cycle humans have when disconnected from the sun cycle.
24:39 - Martian day

“When humans are allowed to run off their body's clock apart from input from the sun, by being kept in continuous darkness, the body's daily cycle tends to lengthen to about 25 hours.”

He also asserted that a human on Mars would have the strength to weight ratio of a gorilla on Earth. Our leg, calf and foot design would support a spring like lope not unlike a kangaroo, providing very efficient locomotion. And that on Mars, the sun’s intensity is low enough that a human could look directly at it without pain or injury. . . no sunglasses needed.
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Do you think humans evolved on Mars? Evidence says no. . . or so we're told.

[Ratszinger]

Posted by ozmirage (here)

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
You don't seem to realize that while within the earth system none of that matters. They are still regulated by the earth not what ISS does.

The facts don't fit your opinion. The solar and lunar cycles are based on what one experiences, not because they're there.
And there are other opinions on what the REAL source of our cycles are.
- - -
Richard C. Hoagland’s book “The Monuments of Mars - A City on the Edge of Forever,’ raised an interesting point. The Martian day is very close to the circadian cycle humans have when disconnected from the sun cycle.
24:39 - Martian day

“When humans are allowed to run off their body's clock apart from input from the sun, by being kept in continuous darkness, the body's daily cycle tends to lengthen to about 25 hours.”

He also asserted that a human on Mars would have the strength to weight ratio of a gorilla on Earth. Our leg, calf and foot design would support a spring like lope not unlike a kangaroo, providing very efficient locomotion. And that on Mars, the sun’s intensity is low enough that a human could look directly at it without pain or injury. . . no sunglasses needed.
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Do you think humans evolved on Mars? Evidence says no. . . or so we're told.

I have no problem with you you having your own opinion. Time will tell us who is correct here. Richard Hogland tho? Really? Hoagland was a nut job debunked in the Art Bell era and not even worth considering as anything other than just another conspiracy theorist.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Sedonia is a conspiracy theory?

[Ratszinger]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Sedonia is a conspiracy theory?

Yep! Nothing there but imagination unfortunately. No structures made by intelligent life are on mars.

[ExomatrixTV]

• How SpaceX & Elon Musk Will Uses Inflatable Habitats for Mars Colony:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fBE9OXnam2g

How will Inflatable Habitats Revolutionize Elon Musk's Mars Colonization? Elon Musk is attempting to make the fiction of space travel a scientific reality with SpaceX Starship. “why go anywhere? Right? I think there are really two fundamental paths. History is going to bifurcate along two directions. One path is we stay on Earth forever and then there will be some eventual extinction event. I don't have an immediate doomsday prophecy, but eventually history suggests there will be some doomsday event. The alternative is to become a space-faring civilization and a multiplanet species.” Yeah Musk’s laser-focused on ensuring to make a second home elsewhere in space, and has his sights set on Mars. However, what after Starship sends humans to Mars? Try building a house without any of the materials mere Earthlings use to build houses! That’s the challenge facing astronauts as they move forward with colonizing Mars. They’ll either need to bring materials with them, which will be wildly expensive and generally unreliable, or make use of the Red Planet’s rugged, inhospitable terrain. Many believe that 3D printing will be a good solution. The fundamental idea behind 3D printing on Mars involves deploying autonomous robotic systems to collect regolith (loose dust and rock fragments) from the Martian surface. This regolith is then mixed with a polymer substance and heated to create a printable concrete-like material. The 3D printing machine constructs the structure layer by layer using this material. Although this concept seems intriguing, it necessitates landing numerous robots on Mars, along with substantial energy requirements to power the entire process of collection, melting, and 3D printing. The outcome would essentially be an above-ground cave constructed from Martian rock, which could potentially be physically toxic to humans. Furthermore, the lack of knowledge about Martian regolith composition poses another challenge, as we do not currently possess samples to fully understand its properties. The assumption that we can simply transform it into a suitable material for building houses is more of an educated guess rather than a certain solution. On the other hand, inflatable habitats emerge as a better promising and practical approach. Well, this is not a new concept, the first formal design and manufacture of an inflatable space habitat was in 1961 with a space station design produced by Goodyear, although this design was never flown. In 1989, a proposal released by Johnson Space Center's Man Systems Division outlined a 16 metres diameter spherical habitat lunar outpost which was partially buried in the lunar surface.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Why Inflatable Habitats Are The Key To A Mars Colony!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Od_E2O-YHN8

Just a heads up: At 9:10, you mention that there is an ~30 PSI difference between Sea Level and space, but that is not correct. At sea level the atmosphere is 14 PSIA (absolute), but in space its -14 PSIG (Gauge). These are different methods of measuring pressure, so you cant just add them together like that unfortunately. absolute pressure is pressure compared to a vacuum, while gauge pressure is compared to sea level. Therefore, a pressure sensor that reads in absolute would read sea level pressure as 14PSIA, while a pressure sensor that reads gauge pressure would show zero PSIG. Basically, this means there is even less of a pressure difference that these habitats need to worry about, merely 14 PSI rather than 28 PSI

[korgh]

@ExomatrixTV


I agree.