BASIC INCOME & New money system ideas and remarks

[All is one]

Hi,

I would like to open the discussion about all possibilities & pitfalls of a new money system.

Can we think out a financial model that has better effects on human consciousness?

What values & principles etc. should an ideal money system need to be based upon in order to create a more honest & prosperous world? One where people live in accordance with the highest of their capacities.

I, for example, was thought as a child to take responsibility for any allowance that I was given. This so that the focus of what I wanted to do or buy with the money would stem from my own efforts. I think it’s a good way to learn about our own responsibility and the need to put effort in what we want to create in life.


A) Basic income systems: The question of responsibility & mental effects?


1) Basic income (monthly) : long term effects on responsible behavior?

What will happen to our creative desires and self responsibility when things like basic monthly income see the light?

How will this affect the value and meaning of money?


2) Yearly (basic) income?:

Would it then not be better if people get a larger sum of money for a longer period of time? This so that they need to take the responsibility themselves to create the lives the way they wanted?

And what about the people that just use up all the money they get at once (on stupid things) and are as a result not able to survive anymore?

What types of problems would that give to society?
How should society respond to those people?


What long term effects will basic monthly/yearly income have on consumerism, consciousness and our self responsibility and mental capacities to create our own life.

Can people be that responsible to handle a yearly basic income?
What happens to the people that would spend or lose their given money directly?


3) Income for housewives

To eliminate power abuse in relationships & thus create more peaceful family environments.

4) Income for the sick and those damaged by societies mistakes (like accidents in work environments, medical mistakes, violence, etc.)


B) Improving capitalistic system?

Possibilities:

- "conscious capitalism"
- "inclusive capitalism"
- "capitalism for good”
- "doughnut economics"
- "Five Capitals"

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...lism-is-coming

- Capitalism with "limits"?

Another idea I’ve heard is to have a capitalistic system, but where there is a limit to how much one can possess. This would affect only the giganticly rich and might solve some issues, but personally I don’t think it will solve the egotistical and corrupt patterns and their effects of the capitalistic system.


C) New & different systems?

A system that supports the foundations of life :

Would it be better to instead of giving people money, make sure they are provided with the basic necessities in life being:

- space and place to live
- clean healthy food & drinking water
- basic necessities
- LETS system of some sorts (What do you think of for example the URA: https://www.unitedpeople-foundation.org/ura-currency ?)

See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1447582


In this type of system one still needs to develop ones own talents and capacities to help build the societal structures and all that is needed to make such societies function.
This way people will need to live more responsibly and it’s less likely they will squander what they have right away.


Can you guys think of any other possibilities for new financial systems?

When thinking of other possibilities and ideas for a new financial system what direction would you like to see our systems evolve in to when you realize justice, consciousness, the environment, autonomy etc. are all linked to what kind of money system we support?

Societies and systems don't change in an instant, but change in accordance with the level of awareness of the people and their leaders ...

What do you think are the pitfalls of current new financial system ideas?

[palehorse]

If we know the root cause of a problem, we already got the problem and the way to disable it from growing any further. There is nothing to consider in terms of UBI, CDBC, ZT Protocol.. technically speaking it is a great accomplishment, but hey it is leaded by psychopaths. Technocracy.


what the Fabian society and now globalism had built is all funky chit! that servers their interests only, which include divide people, create all sort of chaos, disruptions, I will call it just digital hell for now.


"Can you guys think of any other possibilities for new financial systems?"

More I think about it more I know the only real way for people is barter and gift, exchanging goods and services just like our ancestors did in the past, you can trade or you can give it is your pick. In case where barter fails, some sort of "promise" could be introduced, but it should never be "centralized", it must be de centralized in order to work (p2p, and if you don't trust a peer, you are forced to do). Self custody also could work depending on situation.

Scarcity is a built-in feature created with money (interest bearing debt), what make you think the digital money will solve these problems that create by design as a feature? When you turn everything into commodities we the people are cut off in the process, the very basic human needs, see how hunger still exist in a bunch of places, we feed machines but not the people huh?

Did we earn to be born, to feel the sun, to eat food from a plant, to drink water, to breath air? No. it is a gift of life and these bastards want to take it away too. They should have gratitude, but how can you explain gratitude to a bunch of psychopaths? you can't, because they think they are better that any creator (aka God).

I always say gives more than you take, this principle is very basic, it is fundamental and that is exactly what I see in a community, no more no less. Gratitude turn that possible.

[Brigantia]

A question - bearing in mind that under this system we would still need to buy things, and also bearing in mind that people who work in retail are on or barely above minimum wage, and that they would probably quit en masse if they had an income equal to or better than their current wage, where are you going to get your basic necessities?

One much-respected colleague once told me that where we worked, the place would come to a standstill if the people working in the lower grades went on strike as they were crucial to keeping the place ticking over. That is so true in every organisation.

[ExomatrixTV]

• ... as long you can 100% guarantee that it is not hijacked and/or co-opted and/or corrupted by over the top psychopathic control-freaks ... or one of their minions like: WEF puppet politicians, WEF puppet banksters, WEF puppet "regulators" etc. etc.

--o-O-o--

The use of the word "capitalism" was created/designed to trap people in labels ... identity politics makes people talk in tunnel vision narratives <<< all by design, and it works ... so many refuse to look any further ... thinking in soundbites & talking-points spoon-fed to them.

01. Vulture Capitalism vs 02. Restrained Capitalism
Both use "Freedom" (let that sink in for a moment).

* 01. Freedom to exploit anything and abuse power, for a buck! ... No matter what the consequences are ... Profits above Ethics & Morals.

* 02. Respecting & Following The Constitution ... Bill of Rights ... Nuremberg Code of Ethics etc. >>> NOT taking Freedoms away nor abusing powers to obtain even more power (control) & profit!

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳

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[ozmirage]

Under current money madness, it does sound "reasonable."
Hey, let's go "all in" - give everyone 22 billion billion credits so no one ever "needs" money again.
Everyone is equally wealthy.
But who is going to work, mine, farm, sweat, haul cargo and sell it for more money they don't need?
Even the starving children are phenomenally wealthy !
Poverty is not the lack of money. Never was.
So "Basic Income" is not the remedy.

Real prosperity is based on prodigious production of surplus usable goods and services, equitably traded and enjoyed. That doesn't require money.

Current monies are created and regulated by parties who are NOT producing goods nor labor for trade. In short, any money token NOT created by workers or businesses is a scam to rob, cheat, and steal. It matters not if government or bankers or shady cybercriminals are "creating" the money - it's all a scam.
Scarce and finite money throttles trade, thus is the cause of poverty, not the cure.

Ideally, simple barter should be the dominant mode of trade. And that which cannot be bartered should be available for trade via a private promissory note - a medium to pass value to a future trade.

But the first principle is that we need to first generate SURPLUS, and only then can we consider charity. Government imposed compulsory charity only redistributes poverty.

[CurEus]

The concept of UBI acknowledging the inherent worth of all people is compelling. Basics are met and those with desire and ability can engage in paid work that they choose to engage with or just carry on being themselves.

However I believe it is a "bit" more sinister. We can all see the forced dependency that may devekop and the need to follow rules be it a social credit "score" or as it will be digital restrictions on use and purchases IE carbon "allowances" specific foods, etc etc.

Regardless....I think it is a "holding pattern" and payoff as we transition to the total redundancy of the majority of workers in the next decade. AI and new tech will see massive layoffs. Noting UBI eliminates an enormous # of administrators for pensions, disability and welfare payments, student loans,

We can project why TPTB see a "need" to cull our numbers most of us won't be "needed" and the need for children will plummet.....in THEIR model of a perfect world where they are effectively immortal.

I don't think things will go according to their plans though.....I do see major earth and solar, and climate catastrophes arriving with greater intensity which may make all of this planning moot. Alas, WAY too many things at play to be certain of much.

It won't matter if you're under 1000ft of water, volcanic ash, mud, or ice.

I really would like to see a Star Trek world and society but I fear the universe is much more like Star Wars,

Judging by their actions it seems like the power elite have implemented their plans prematurely for wahtever reason so maybe they are afriad of something they cannot control. That alone is enough to convince me things are not written in stone and we can build a better world. Change is alsways chaotic, but we're still here through multiple cataclysms and catastrophes.

I for one am NOT livin in a WEF notion of a perfect world of AI, drones, bots and cricket burgers!

[Ernie Nemeth]

As soon as a value token is assigned to an item, money takes on a life of its own. Money, the only fully fake instrument that has no intrinsic value, becomes the thing with the most value.

This situation creates a shadow world of money madness that captures the imagination of the masses. If only they had millions!

You want to institute a new system?
Insist on being paid in the goods and services you need, not in money tokens.
See how quickly the 'price' of goods and services plumet when businesses have to pay for it.

How about we right the ship and talk about what really matters: life! If you struggle and strive for 'money', life must take a back seat to that loyalty.
How about we insist our systems value correctly and place emphasis on our quality of life and not on our bank accounts.

For instance: instead of making sure we hold the value of our houses by not building enough of them, and instead of building massive homes only those already in the housing game can afford, how about we build tiny homes for those breaking into the housing game? And how about we build so many of them that the price becomes affordable for all?

How about we start an economy of surplus: everything made and built so that there are more of them than we need?
How about we stop with the scarcity paradigm and begin envisioning the abundance principle, and then make that the reality?

[ozmirage]

How do you know you were [bleeped] by the propaganda ministry?
Consider this - thanks to tools, machines, mass production and automation, an individual's labor can be multiplied / amplified by many orders of magnitude.

And, due to an increase in population, we should therefore have prodigious surplus of usable goods and services . . . prosperity . . . abundance . . . opulence.

[crickets chirping]

How did we wind up with growing poverty, unemployment, underemployment, recessions, closing retailers, downsized factories, etc, etc.?
Over population is not to blame.
We have a surplus of available labor, but it is unable to be utilized.

Figured it out yet?

What's stopping the unemployed from getting hired?
No employer has the money to hire him, because the employer can't sell that labor, for more money, to someone else... for a profit... because of -ahem- not enough money.

Despite the propaganda ministry's insinuation that "governments are printing up money" that's a lie. There has been a world wide money token drought for decades if not centuries.

Scarcity and need for money drives demand for borrowing it at interest (usury - the abomination).

There has never been a time in history that the money supply kept proportionality with the growth in the marketplace of goods and services.

Now you know the rest of the story.

[ozmirage]

Yes, we're all indoctrinated to be money mad. Yes, this is an asylum.

Money is a medium of exchange to faciliate trade when barter is insufficient.
But the creation / destruction of money has zero correlation with the marketplace of goods and services.

Since money always lags, the marketplace cannot sell everything available. This shows up as unemployment, and ruined businesses.

Money is also a clever way to RATION scarce goods and services, by using high prices to limit consumption.

INSTEAD OF BASIC INCOME, what if there were a ration of shelter, clothing, and food? Obviously, you first have to produce shelter, clothing and food to ration it. So you had better have MORE (surplus) before you start giving it away.

HOW do you motivate people to generate surplus, to be given away?
WHY work harder (generate more) when the government will just take it away?

BAM, the first problem of any compulsory charity & confiscation of surplus is a drop in productivity. This plagued the Soviet Union and Russia to the present. The net result is lack, poverty equitably distributed (excepting the elite, of course).

No money mad nor collectivist system can function, where all the rewards go to the consumer, and the penalties acrue to the producer.
The money masters use covert skimming (royalties, fees, interest, discounts, kickbacks, debt, etc, etc) to reap vast fortunes while doing nothing productive themselves.

"Taxes on the Farmer Feed Us all !"
- - - Ry Cooder

[All is one]

Need to focus on what we want by creating a visions of the economic system we really desire

- More P2P services
- Open system to make it possible for more people (that are interested) to help in creating and sustaining the system.
- Creating surplus
- How about we insist our systems value correctly and place emphasis on our quality of life and not on our bank accounts.”
- How about we build tiny homes for those breaking into the housing game? And how about we build so many of them that the price becomes affordable for all?
- How about we start an economy of surplus: everything made and built so that there are more of them than we need?
- How about we stop with the scarcity paradigm and begin envisioning the abundance principle, and then make that the reality?

@ Palehorse: Thanks for your answer.

The dangers of a technocracy; complete digitalization and wrong use of AI I am very much aware of.

But since we are all very aware of and focussed on what we don’t want, we’re not putting as much energy and focus, thought, … in what we do really want. And I really want to think (with the help of other people’s feedback) about ways systems etc. that are also possible and will be better.

P2P services are a good step towards creating more honest economies, but can not replace the whole economical system, I think.

I know scarcity is a problem and don’t think digitalization will solve it. But I would like to research more about how we could create a positive honest financial system with all the knowledge and tools we have at hand these days. Knowing the dangers of systems should not put us in a freeze mode out of fear, but should push us to look for more possibilities, that are more honest, better, more durable etc.

In this stage it’s just discussing what and how things could theoretically be changed for the better, this is not a thread to directly discuss how we could implement things, but to look for new ideas, ways, systems visions, direction on financial economic level.


@Brigantia: If people can create money by adding some digital numbers on a computer, it means that it is not the money making things happen, but our focus, belief attention etc. If our focus attention etc. would thus be in the direction of a better more honest system; our way of living, and distribution of basic necessities etc will thus change according to how we are all focussed on changing things for the better. But in order for this change to take place we need to know what system we’d rather live in, so that we can direct our focus towards creating it.


@ExomatrixTV: Thanks for your answer. I think the only way to safeguard any system is to make sure it is open for input and ideas of the people. In other words if all people help creating and sustain that system.

I’m just wondering if we could put our minds together to come up with better ideas for new ways/systems instead of focussing on what we don’t want. How far can we go in thinking out new systems. What is good about current systems/ideas, where are their pitfalls, flaws and dangers?


@ozmirage: Agree with you. Don’t think distributing money will solve everything. Though it might temporarily ease the situation for many people in problematic situations. So it might be a good in between step towards a better system ...

I personally think the problems lie on another deeper level. Thus if we want to find real solutions we should also really dive deep in to what all the underlying shadows are that are creating all the misery on this planet.

Creating surplus sounds like a good thing, as long as we don’t accel the deterioration of the soil, pollute the air water etc more …


@CurEus: Thanks for your answer. “I really would like to see a Star Trek world and society but I fear the universe is much more like Star Wars,” That’s what I really want to know. What visions of the future people desire to become a reality. This time on the level of economy etc.


@Ernie Nemeth: You make some really important points here, THANKS!

Any new financial system should be directed towards:

- How about we insist our systems value correctly and place emphasis on our quality of life and not on our bank accounts.”

- How about we build tiny homes for those breaking into the housing game? And how about we build so many of them that the price becomes affordable for all?

- How about we start an economy of surplus: everything made and built so that there are more of them than we need?

- How about we stop with the scarcity paradigm and begin envisioning the abundance principle, and then make that the reality?

[ozmirage]

Posted by All is one (here)
@ozmirage: Agree with you. Don’t think distributing money will solve everything. Though it might temporarily ease the situation for many people in problematic situations. So it might be a good in between step towards a better system ...

I personally think the problems lie on another deeper level. Thus if we want to find real solutions we should also really dive deep in to what all the underlying shadows are that are creating all the misery on this planet.

Creating surplus sounds like a good thing, as long as we don’t accel the deterioration of the soil, pollute the air water etc more …

Working backwards, pollution is merely the creation of new raw material, that is currently underutilized by the present system.

Underlying issue is trying to live by the law of love, when surrounded by predators living by the law of the jungle. Predators are "law abiding" - predators are good, prey are good to eat, and prey who fight back are bad. The masters of jungle law seek to indoctrinate everyone to be predators or at least to meekly run with wolf pack, tossing the weakest to them, so as to spare oneself.

Distributing money taken from one and given to another, by threat, duress or coercion is NEVER a good idea.
Voluntary charity is a blessing.
Compulsory charity is a curse.

[palehorse]

Posted by All is one (here)
Need to focus on what we want by creating a visions of the economic system we really desire

- More P2P services
- Open system to make it possible for more people (that are interested) to help in creating and sustaining the system.
- Creating surplus
- How about we insist our systems value correctly and place emphasis on our quality of life and not on our bank accounts.”
- How about we build tiny homes for those breaking into the housing game? And how about we build so many of them that the price becomes affordable for all?
- How about we start an economy of surplus: everything made and built so that there are more of them than we need?
- How about we stop with the scarcity paradigm and begin envisioning the abundance principle, and then make that the reality?

@ Palehorse: Thanks for your answer.

The dangers of a technocracy; complete digitalization and wrong use of AI I am very much aware of.

But since we are all very aware of and focussed on what we don’t want, we’re not putting as much energy and focus, thought, … in what we do really want. And I really want to think (with the help of other people’s feedback) about ways systems etc. that are also possible and will be better.

P2P services are a good step towards creating more honest economies, but can not replace the whole economical system, I think.

I know scarcity is a problem and don’t think digitalization will solve it. But I would like to research more about how we could create a positive honest financial system with all the knowledge and tools we have at hand these days. Knowing the dangers of systems should not put us in a freeze mode out of fear, but should push us to look for more possibilities, that are more honest, better, more durable etc.

In this stage it’s just discussing what and how things could theoretically be changed for the better, this is not a thread to directly discuss how we could implement things, but to look for new ideas, ways, systems visions, direction on financial economic level.

Permaculture, Natural farming both methods has a very strong approach on abundance and answers pretty much all questions above, it also covers the gift economy or economy or surplus that is interconnected.

I would say with certainty that permaculture solves many of the issues in one go once implemented correctly, it has nothing to do with banking system, the exchange of goods/services may occur in between individuals and inter communities, it is the best way to understand in practice how these things really work. Just doing it.

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[All is one]

Ideas & visions for a NEW economic-financial SYSTEM:
Points to consider:

Needed: profound change in how we relate to possessions and each other


AFFORDABE HOUSING:
Like tiny houses, ...
❃Ownership issues: (who the land on which those houses are build belongs to defines how one can live there)
❃Possibility: An evolution in how land can be owned
❃Best outcome: If land belongs to everyone in equal amounts
- End the connection between the earth's land to the financial system
- Leave the people in their personal power, by keeping the options open for exchanging or merging their own piece of land
❃ consciousness of the effects[/B] on human health, the environment etc. of the materials we use is needed

In other words we absolutely need a higher awareness in what the way is that we relate to money, possessions and each other and power.


We need to focus more on all the things that do have value and how society and our way of living should ideally be organized to know what type of economy would bring us to the best possible future.


FOCUS more ON things that have REAL VALUE(complete the list if you want):

❤︎Earth’s resources: clean water & air, rich soil, minerals, plants: basis of all our goods & material wealth as well as it is related to our own health and well being

❤︎All life on this planet: animals & insects role
& people’s well being (including human life): Therefor a just social system is necessary to keep everyone as healthy and balanced as possible

❤︎All the types of work and other constructive activities people do= for which a just “financial/LETS” system makes it easier to trade those work hours for other goods materials etc.

❤︎All the types constructive work machines do

...


The Permaculture, Natural farming movement: Could create more abundancein balance with nature and people would be generally healthier and more motivated to live their best lives (and understand the connection between each other and the environment etc.).

Autonomic functioning of each region whilst also having all regions collaborate: best formula for a peaceful prosperous world?


Any other ideas for a better financial economic system do let them know.
Any theories you'd like to see reflected in our world today, please explain them ...





@Ernie Nemeth:

I think it’s a good idea to revise how we want and need to live. But still, even if people get tiny houses everywhere it’ll probably not solve the problem. For it’s who the land on which those houses are build belongs to that defines how one can live there. And that can be a very good or very bad thing.

I think besides housing and any type of financial system there should be some evolution in how land can be owned. For I think the best way is that land belongs to everyone in equal amounts (meaning there should be some boundary system as well) and thus knows no more connection to the financial system.
This would consitute a profound change in how we relate to possessions and each other.
Also it would give money or any other exchange mechanism back it’s true value: being more an exchange mechanism from work done at one point in time to buying services or goods another point in time …

Of course any type of system should still leave the people in their personal power, thus keeping the options open for exchanging or merging their piece of land, as well as giving them the choice in what type of housing they architecturally put on it (as long as the materials or construction are not toxic or destructive to nature)

Maybe we have indeed been focussing on the wrong thing when we focus on a money system. Maybe we should focus more on how our way of living is organized etc.

A good financial system is very valuable, but only if the foundations and the other structures of society are balanced and righteous.

It might indeed be better to change our focus to all the things that do have value and how society should ideally be organized to know what type of economy would bring us to the best possible future.

The only things that have real value (complete the list if you want):

Earth’s resources: clean water & air, rich soil, minerals, plants: basis of all our goods & material wealth as well as it is related to our own health and well being

All life on this planet: animals & insects role
& people’s well being (including human life): Therefor a just social system is necessary to keep everyone as healthy and balanced as possible

All the types of work and other constructive activities people do= for which a just “financial/LETS” system makes it easier to trade those work hours for other goods materials etc.

All the types constructive work machines do


@ ozmirage:

Don’t really agree that pollution is always raw material to work with. That, I think, is only true in some cases. Thus we should still be conscious of the effects on human health, the environment etc. of the materials we use.

I love your complete explanation of the dark shadow side of human behavior: “The masters of jungle law seek to indoctrinate everyone to be predators or at least to meekly run with wolf pack, tossing the weakest to them, so as to spare oneself.” Yet even if we leave the people in power with predator behavior out of the picture, it does not solve this issue yet. Therefor I think we need a rise in consciousness as well as a real change in how society is organized, how we relate to each other and how we relate to our possessions ... All is interconnected.

But I think maybe there are even still more mechanisms at play we haven’t even been able to unveil yet. Of course solving what we do understand will help a lot already.

In my opinion there are way more problems with the basic income theory … but there are also some good ideas like that of more equality for everyone in there ...
We should really look for what the right way is to relate to money possessions and each other and power …


@ Palehorse:

Thanks for your answer.
I love the Permaculture, Natural farming movement and ideas.
I think if one combines more equal distribution of land between all people with the permaculture principles we would be able to create more abundance and people would be generally healthier and more motivated to live their best lives.


@ Onawah:

Thanks for your answer.
(Still need to take the time to watch all the video’s.)

I actually think a system that supports the best autonomic functioning of each region whilst also having all regions collaborate in order that every region becomes as balanced as possible and resources and products etc. get to everywhere and to everyone needing it is probably the best formula for a peaceful prosperous world.

[All is one]

Simple theoretical analysis of errors in the CBDC concept:

What are the long term motivations behind the CBDC and are they justified?

Complete control over your spending habits resulting in:

Motivation1: ➜ indirectly trying to control human effects on the environment

Motivation2:➜ indirectly trying to evolve in to a different justice system: social credit score type?

Motivation3:➜ making sure everyone complies with the mainstream theories in science, politics, religion, etc

What’s wrong with the CBDC?

Control over each person till free will becomes a mere hallucination
No more real privacy
No more personal responsibility
Power in the hands of the few/AI?
Less polluted or more distorted world?

A) Motivation 1: Indirectly trying to control human effect on the environment

Well I think it’s logical that if things go wrong in nature: when there is suffering, when there’s destruction, pollution, chaos, etc. that one tries to look for the reason, the culprit, for all of this. By asking who/what is responsible for this mess on earth?

(Since reality is very complex not going to try to make any assumptions.)
Logically something; someone or some group of people or all people are responsible for the mess on earth …

Yet, it seems the CBDC is designed to put all the shame blame & indirect responsibility on the shoulders of the people.

Personally, I think this is wrong reasoning and a wrong way of trying to fix the mess.

Error 1 of the CBDC concept: putting responsibility & blame on the people instead of on the big companies.

For it are the big companies, those who produce things, that have the most impact on the products we use and how fast the change can go to more environmentally friendly products and packaging and living etc.

Motivation 1: Solution: Different method for achieving the same:

Thus I think that the reason for implementing the CBDC to ultimately get control over our pollution of the environment could much better be achieved if this responsibility, the severe control and need to change was put on the shoulders of the “big” companies.

The advantage of making companies responsible and controlled and not the users, is that the change would go way faster. The change to a world more in equilibrium with nature as well as forward evolution. It would give a smoother transition into a more balanced and prosperous world.


B) Motivation 2: Indirectly trying to evolve in to a different justice system: social credit score type?

Control up to this level over each individual will eventually miss its goal.
Because it’s a system that tries to be all knowing.
But the all knowing field “akashic records” do not work that way.
The all knowing field is, as far as I know, composed of all thoughts, all emotions, all events, all energies, …

No system or AI can replace the all knowing field. Thus no system will always make the right choices/judgements. But in merging with that type of power, because of its erroneous ways, it can destroy a lot.

Total and absolute control by a digital system will thus eventually only lead to more distortion and disbalance and thus disaster within the system.

This is the wrong way to use technology and AI to get to beter structures!


Motivation 2: Solution:

Is there another way forward to a more honest and just world in alignment with the highest capacity of humanity?

Can we evolve towards a new system wherein everybody counts?:

◉privacy = freedom of choice

◉choice = able to follow intuition, and have new ideas and inventions, unique expression of the soul, free from excessive control

◉safety: see https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1492918

◉indepence: equal distribution of resources, land (equal allocation of livable land), … See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1447582

◉personal responsibility: need for higher awareness of interconnectedness, and our own effect on ourselves, our environment, each other, etc.
environmental responsibility: companies should evolve in to producing only environmentally friendly products and packaging and people should learn to live their lives with zero negative impact on this world and each other … in order to be able to live as free as possible and in balance with nature
See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1550070


C) Motivation 3: Making sure everyone complies with the mainstream theories in science, politics, religion, etc

Correlates with trying to limit people’s privacy and thus freedom of choice. As a result people won’t be able to follow their intuition, have new ideas and inventions, unique expression of the soul. Thus it’s the opposite of creating freedom on this planet. It’s also the opposite of natural evolution. And it’s dangerous because all theories/opinions/beliefs are prone to flaws and changes over time … Thus enforcing one theory will always cause problems down the line.


Motivation 3: Solution:

Only higher awareness/consciousness of the interconnectedness of everything and everyone can solve this. But I don't know if it's realistic to get everyone to this stage of awareness.
See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1550070




Above analysis is far from complete, neither are the solutions. If you feel compelled to analyse the CBDC its flaws and possible solutions further; be my guest.

[Mari]

Posted by All is one (here)
Ideas & visions for a NEW economic-financial SYSTEM:
Points to consider:

Needed: profound change in how we relate to possessions and each other

That is the key. Nothing changes until WE change on the inside - enough of us to make a difference. The world we see at the moment is a reflection of humankind's overall consciousness. I think we are in for a profound shake-up that is going to rattle our cages (how, where, when, who knows?) but it's coming. When we make that collective shift, then I strongly believe we will know how to proceed (kick the CBDC's out of existence for a start) how to correct most of the mistakes that have occurred because we were asleep on our watch. Problems which seem insurmountable now will be easily overcome because we'll be operating from a higher perspective.
To be sure, there are groups and individuals who are already the way-showers and we know who they mostly are, but until the collective gets on board, progress will continue at its glacial pace.