Paradise

[Eagle Eye]

Do you believe that Paradise exist? The highest order of things and eternal Peace.

[Miller]

Just to clarify, do you mean here on earth, other dimensions or perhaps a state of mind?

[Eagle Eye]

We can think of it as a highest creation. If paradise has a portal to enter, than it can't be here on earth, but somewhere else, maybe another dimension.

[Le Chat]

I don't believe that a 'paradise' exists....

[Anna70]

Thank you for your post, which prompted me to remember that as a very young child, I somehow had the very strong notion that there would be an end to all the wars I was hearing about on TV before too long, and I remember feeling genuinely surprised that they were still at it with the silly violence.
I'm not sure if it was just my naivety; admittedly, I've always been a bit of a dreamer... When listening to my father telling my sister and me about Hansel and Gretel, I always insisted the witch should not get pushed into the oven, but use her powers to do good instead.


Anyway, to answer your question, I do believe that there is some sort of Paradise out there somewhere.

[ExomatrixTV]

Define the word: "believe"

• ... I rather: know, experience, being aware, being consciousness of etc. etc.

If belief/believe is (very) similar to words like: "hope" and/or "wishing" and/or "assuming" and/or "guessing" etc. etc. I fully understand why people do that.

And in my view, there is nothing wrong to admit: "I do not know (for sure)"

• Not for sure knowing does not mean it is "impossible"

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[palehorse]

as John wrote right above perfectly.
Paradise is BS (believe system) as hell as well.

How could the poor of me possibly know about such a thing, I can only wonder and try the best of my abilities to live a meaningful life, would that be some "sort of" paradise?

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Define the word: "believe"

There is a contradiction in dictionary. The translation of the word "believe": to accept that (something) is true, especially without proof.
It stops there (without proof). They do not mention " the signs", what are the signs: an object, quality, or event whose presence or occurrence indicates the probable presence or occurrence of something else.

The signs comes usually in smaller or greater examples that happen during life, that has deep explanation. If the person is well aware and focused on that, when it happens, will understand it.

If someone is aware of the tests in life, is also aware that a simulation (in small degree) of experiencing heaven and hell will happen during this life.

[mountain_jim]

Yes - it's by the dashboard light.

[thepainterdoug]

I have a problem with the concept of paradise as I also have a problem with things like holidays, celebrations, and all else that grants us a "time out" from the everyday.
We only can know thru a duality. paradise needs a comparison to be known. a non paradise. Like rest. rest is understood thru its opposite, work effort etc.

I always come up with the uneasy thought " now what"? Now that I have this or accomplished that? what is left to do but loose it ?

I am very uneasy on vacations. seems silly doesnt it ? but a part of me is already knowing it will be ending and then there will be the facing of some other reality. the reality that needed a vacation in the first place.

I am also uneasy with the concept of nothingness or peace. nothingness needs consciousness to be identified as such. so there has to be something to know it
peace requires its opposite, war to know it.

The NDE people seem to explain it all well, but since I have not experienced an NDE , I need to believe it.

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
I am also uneasy with the concept of nothingness or peace

Peace doesn't mean to be in nothingness, but to live in absence of evil.

[thepainterdoug]

Eagle Eye. my bad , I conflated words there. I meant to say, "with the concept of nothingness and also with the concept of peace. I was describing two separate concepts.

[Matthew]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
Do you believe that Paradise exist? The highest order of things and eternal Peace.

Yes, first as a matter of religious dogma but then its come closer and more personal, like I've seen a flash of it... or something I can understand that represents it. Like a pure instruction set with operations of only love and an unstoppable pouring out of that. But where we are with what I think of as freedom, doing what we want, putting the square peg in the round hole if we want, ...using a hammer to achieve that because it kind of works, having difficulty affording food on a planet that does nothing but produce free food, paying for water on a planet made of water where water falls from the skies most places, using a tumble dryer when we have a sunny garden... You get the idea; we're absolutely bonkers mad. We constantly go against the purest, simplest solution then compound this down generations. Self-awareness is optional, but copying people around us is very important.

So despite paradise transmitting non-stop beams of all love all the time we manage to screw this up, and that's not paradise's fault. In fact fault is not an operation that exists in [my interpretation of] paradise, there are just more beams of love. Paradise doesn't transmit a shadow of the past (but we each have one), paradise only beams love then more love.

Then, most of the time, in our self-made crazy world, our days can be so difficult it's hard to visualise paradise or hold it as a viable concept.

[bobme]

Like the question. yet I feel it does not exist here. Too many people here, {on earth. to eagerly to corrupt it. Find a sort of paradise, and it will be corrupted, or tarnished by those who would wish to cash in on it. If you know what I mean.

A song popped into my mind when I first read the thread title.

it was written by A member of the Eagles band. called paradise.

Sorry, can not find the song right now.

Thanks anyway

[ExomatrixTV]

What if the vast majority of Souls get easily bored after a while and really want some (interesting) challenges ... What if in a multiverse a "parallel world" does exist where everything is perfect with no evil at all ... as the moment you hurt anyone you feel the same pain immediately ... "instant karma effect" ... that means people having truly 100% access to their fullest potential ... Now, why would Souls from that perfect parallel world want to be here in our Fcked Up world? ... Read my first sentence again!

Do we have a (temporary) amnesia (who we really are) on purpose to make it more interesting?

• By the way, the above insight might also apply for Alien Souls having similar issues on other planets ... even the most sophisticated "control freaks" Souls may reach a point they get bored too and want something different.

I can say these things because am not obsessed with scripture ... am not a slave to what others tell me "how to think" or "what to think" ... especially when you are beyond the fear conditioning.

My "What if" questions are not meant to be "evidence" of anything ... it is just me having an alternative (not fixated) "belief/believe" what I call: "planting seeds of considerations".



cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
May 31st, 2023 🦜🦋🌳

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
What if the vast majority of Souls get easily bored after a while and really want some (interesting) challenges ...

Now, why should Souls from that perfect parallel world want to be here in our Fcked Up world?

1. There is a lot more freedom by obeying the rules, than in chaos, but people fail to understand that. In a world of perfect order, there is infinite freedom, by obeying it's rules, than the illusion of freedom by breaking them. It seem a contradiction, but it's not. I will show you an example, you have more freedom in a big city with it's rules set, than in a vast desert that is larger and you can do whatever you want, but it's not much you can do anyway. That is the difference between order and chaos.

2. It was not our choice to be here and experiencing this duality, but it was decreed so.

3. Not everyone deserve to be in a perfect world (paradise), you have to meet it's standard.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
What if the vast majority of Souls get easily bored after a while and really want some (interesting) challenges ...

Now, why should Souls from that perfect parallel world want to be here in our Fcked Up world?

1. There is a lot more freedom by obeying the rules, than in chaos, but people fail to understand that. In a world of perfect order, there is infinite freedom, by obeying the main rules, than the illusion of freedom by braking them. It seem a contradiction, but it's not. I will show you an example, you have more freedom in a big city with it's rules set, than in a vast desert that is larger and you can do whatever you want, but it's not much you can do anyway. That is the difference between order and chaos.

2. It was not our choice to be here and experiencing this duality, but it was decreed so.

3. Not everyone deserve to be in a perfect world (paradise), you have to meet it's standard.

Quoting me out of rhetorical context is not what I am about, especially when you use scripture as your "main focus" only.

• My "What if" questions are not meant to be "evidence" of anything ... it is just me having an alternative (not fixated) "belief/believe" what I call: "planting seeds of considerations".

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[Pris]

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Belief isn't required when you know. For me, I'd say that Paradise (NOT peace) -- my state of absolute creative joy, playfulness, and loving bliss -- has always been inside me. It's something I've actually manifested and experienced here on Earth and during my OBEs.

[Carlitos]

I agree with Pris - Paradise is a state of mind.

When pain, fear, anger, jealousy, confusion, etc is washed out of you (a cleans, a meditation, a bath in pure love, a surrender and state of acceptance - self induced or otherwise) - then you will see that you are whole, you can recognize your soul - you can realize who and what you are and how that fits into the greater hyper-dimensional reality. You can experience true bliss, calmness, peace, contentment, love => let's call that paradise. Once you recognize that, you can have moments of bliss throughout the day, anywhere, anytime, if you just stop to remember that it is there.

It seems obvious that most human beings are being kept from having this feeling, which is why paradise seems an unreachable concept, instead of a matter of course, as it could be.