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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    Many questions that are being raised around this story can be clarified by watching this interview with Ross Coulthart, the investigative journalist who did the personal interview for seven hours of David Grusch. I know Ross personally and have interacted with him many times this past year. Formerly with 60 minutes he is a rock solid journalist.


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    SENATOR BURCHETT CONFIRMATION OF HEARINGS AND TALKING TO David Grusch

    https://twitter.com/highpeaks77/stat...206666753?s=48

    I liked how Burchett went right to the point. And he will likely ask better questions in the next House hearing. Also as of today in the English language, I have seen that the "least mainstream" of the mainstream media (Fox News and the Public Broadcasting Service - PBS - is beginning to cover the subject. The former interviewed Nick Pope yesterday and today the latter interviewed Lt. Alex Diettrich, plus a reporter from the Washington Post (that covers official AARO and recent NASA UAP research). Moreover, an astrophysicist and another scientist part of NASA's current public UAP team were on PBS. We need to consider the psychologies of people that tend to believe or be more open to the ambiguous subject of UFOs and people that think of themselves as more rational but tend to dismiss them without dedicating time to study the evidence. This has been playing from the beginning and - at times - information could have been planted by intelligence community to emphasize or de-emphasize those already-existing tendencies.

    I think that non-conventional media and often the mythically imaginative, religious people in general (often conservatives) also tend to be more openly interested in UFOs, the otherworldly, and the extraordinary (against which the modern rationalists compare themselves against). So, the mainstream with its emphasis on modern rationality tends shy away from it. Both sides trying to find (valid or not) reasons to reaffirm their preferences.

    I think that in the case of the mainstream media, they were also easily steered to accept UFO disinformation campaign because otherworldly matters in general do not suit them well temperamentally. However, in the more exploratory fringes of the mainstream, the UFO subject becomes easier to admit than in the core. This would be why we can expect PBS and Fox to lead the way before ABD, CBS, CNN, NBC. BBC follow suit. They will have to, even if there is some degree of infiltration and control.

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    Absolutely amazing 🙏 This device so overheats nowadays so it took me some time to get to watch some of the interviews posted in this thread and sorry for not hitting all the “thanks” buttons as I’d do usually.

    Do I believe the evidence exist for crash retrieval’s ? Yes I do but how long is it going to take to bring it forwards really ?

    If the answer is “not so fast” then why talking

    Yes I understand we have to wait for the Congress of the US to approve further investigation but guess what, I believe the Congress will likely approve.

    If so ..could Mr Grush suggest where is the evidence ?

    Because if he does not know where, it (we) would have to wait for another whistleblower who knows, just like usually. Just saying

    Qualified intel personnel do nothing “but psy-ops” even while blowing whistle because it’s all they are trained in. It does not necessarily mean “bad psy-op”, it can mean a good one instead.
    But what would be its possible purpose and outcome , I speculate.

    The luckiest possible outcome would be if some inconspicuous country or territory,
    May I suggest the Philippines as an example came out with “corroborative evidence” that is for example, piece of craft or material that would resemble “theirs”.

    Why so, big countries read power players like Russia or China are unlikely to come forwards with what they have under current war like circumstances.

    But , in order to withstand global scientific scrutiny that would necessarily follow presentation of evidence no matter how small or insignificant such may be in someone’s possession while most of it , quote “alien bodies” may have decomposed long time ago and even materialistic evidence of metals etc. could have been buried and taken care of by various means,
    we live in times when new exotic elements, alloys and materials can be and are being produced in physical laboratories , particle accelerators etc.,
    so “breaking news” can’t be based on single piece of evidence either.

    It would have to be the “whole pack” come out or corroboration from other parties is needed.

    In either case I’m still charmed by the news and I’ll drink lots of apple juice on it,
    in heat of Indian summer and wait till it subsides.


    More later

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    • Whistleblower David Grusch Reveals UFO Crash in Italy 🛸

    UFO whistleblower David Grusch reveals a UFO crash that allegedly happened in Italy. I also include very interesting UFO news.
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    Can we all agree for better or for worse ... the topic UFOs/UAPs is now officially going mainstream 24/7? ... or will it "go away" after a couple of days? << I think not!




    • "Non-human":
    01. "Other Dimensional"?
    02. Time-Travelling Synthetic Biological A.I.?
    03. Reptilians?
    04. Beings from a Parallel World (look up "Multiverse" on Wikipedia) ?
    05. Aliens?
    06. Survivors of Atlantis?
    07. What else?

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    Here we go ! Project Bluebeam or close relative coming soon !

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by p+52 (here)
    Sadly John seems to be very uninformed about the still unfolding details of the Grusch testimony as he's drawing conclusions without knowing all of the data. It's also bothersome and a little condescending to regard Ross Coulthart as a "supposed journalist".
    Yes, I wasn't impressed with John DeSouza one bit. But here's Richard Dolan at al, published a couple of hours ago. An hour long, and I've NOT listened to this yet — but it's likely to be a lot better.

    UFO Bombshell & Live Reaction: Richard Dolan, Danny Sheehan, Linda Mounton Howe

    Had an in person one on one with Richard the other day with the promise for follow up zoom call. Touched on some Dan stuff as well. :-) He was captivated.

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    A clip I created today that features Ross aggressively calling out mainstream media here in the States as gutless cowards for abrogating their responsibility as journalists to take the UAP/UFO subject seriously! Ross is thew real deal and I back him 100%


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    If an agency exists that answers to no one then where do they get the authority to even exist?
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    The word is spreading forcing the hand of mainstream media to join! And also this new article in the magazine "Public' w other testimonies verifying what Grunch says.

    https://public.substack.com/p/us-has...en-space-craft

    "And now, multiple sources close to the matter have come forward to tell "Public" that Grusch’s core claims are accurate. The individuals are all either high-ranking intelligence officials, former intelligence officials, or individuals who we could verify were involved in U.S. government UAP efforts for three or more decades each. Two of them have testified, including as recently as last year, to both AARO and Congress.

    The individuals said they had seen or been presented with “credible” and “verifiable” evidence that the U.S. government, and U.S. military contractors, possess at least 12 or more alien space crafts, some of which they shared with AARO, which AARO has refused to provide to Congress. The reason AARO “has not discovered any verifiable information,” they said, is because it does have the authority to verify it and may not want to verify it."

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    'This is a Hollywood script': Michio Kaku on reports of UFOs, aliens | Banfield


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    don't know if this is true but interesting..

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    The timing of all of this "Aliens and UFO's" now becoming so "Mainstream" is rather suspicious and somewhat disturbing to me. It really seems to me to be way to convenient to be happening right now when there are so many other dangerous and extreme global events happening, such as global players re-aligning alliances, the world being on the brink of WWIII, looming global economic collapse, Governments and huge corporations doubling down on wokeness and idiotic behaviors/policies, etc etc etc.
    These whistleblowers and the possibility of an actually alien/ufo disclosure happening right now could very well be a distraction to something way more serious and sinister, such as an event or series of events resulting in a controlled culling of the human population.
    Regardless, nothing would surprise me as things are becoming more stupid and insane by the hour.... I do sense something big is about to happen.

    Added: ....and why now are we suppose to believe these whistleblowers are real when 99% of all other mainstream news is propaganda and ridiculous garbage?
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    don't know if this is true but interesting..
    How many (mass) media hyped UFO and or Alien encounters that turned out to be "nothing burgers"** ... how many assumed "nothing burgers" thus not reporting on it turned out to be far more interesting?

    ** to condition the masses, that it will almost "always" be debunked (even correctly debunked!) that was planned all along! ... Knowing it will be debunked later on is the GREEN LIGHT they need to hype it first!

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    Clayton Morris from Redacted Tonight interviews Joshua Reid about David Grush's revelations about retrieved spacecraft

    Interview starts at 1:35:30 mark


    • (1:38:00)David Grush's lawyer is Charles McCullough, who was once the Inspector General McCullough. He testified on the Hillary Clinton email scandal in 2015 - many of these emails had to do with SAP programs.

      Reid also discusses how already in 1998 Bill Clinton was giving away technological secrets to China and other adversaries (does not say whom else) and how when Trump became president there were several prosecutions of academics giving away these secrets to foreign adversaries (again, no one but China mentioned) or instances where China would fund American university projects and then bring academics to China. (Reid interjects Bob Lazar's comment that in order to reverse engineer materials, they need to be shared with academics.)

    • (1:41:20) Per Reid's source, there are three whistleblowers, and the other two (not Grush) have the first hand information and have actual evidence which is video and photographic. Also one of them knows the location of where the "craft" are kept. They initially presented their info to an Indiana Congressman, who Reid believes is Andre Carson. At first the congressman would not believe the whistleblowers until they produce a video which showed members of the intelligence community members communicating with extra terrestrials! The congressman were visibly shaken and they introduced the whistleblowers to McCullough to be their lawyer.

    • (1:45:20) One of the three whistleblowers is a retiring airforce pilot who was the pilot in the Varginha UFO incident in Brazil.

    • (1:49:00) Mar Lago raid may have to do with documents regarding these SAP programs.

    • (1:54:00) The whistleblowers were motivated not by whistleblower rage, but by fear for their lives. Some information had leaked out and they felt they would be blamed, so this motivated them to come forward. The video evidence is in the hands of at least two UFO researches, and is their insurance policy. One of these researchers is a prominent video maker (???James Fox???)

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    100% bull$hit, scripted, ordered and executed. And just in the nick of time too.
    Come on agents reading this, how more stupid can you get? Couldn't find someone less queer?

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Clayton Morris from Redacted Tonight interviews Joshua Reid about David Grush's revelations about retrieved spacecraft

    Interview starts at 1:35:30 mark



    • (1:38:00)David Grush's lawyer is Charles McCullough, who was once the Inspector General McCullough. He testified on the Hillary Clinton email scandal in 2015 - many of these emails had to do with SAP programs.

      Reid also discusses how already in 1998 Bill Clinton was giving away technological secrets to China and other adversaries (does not say whom else) and how when Trump became president there were several prosecutions of academics giving away these secrets to foreign adversaries (again, no one but China mentioned) or instances where China would fund American university projects and then bring academics to China. (Reid interjects Bob Lazar's comment that in order to reverse engineer materials, they need to be shared with academics.)
    • (1:41:20) Per Reid's source, there are three whistleblowers, and the other two (not Grush) have the first hand information and have actual evidence which is video and photographic. Also one of them knows the location of where the "craft" are kept. They initially presented their info to an Indiana Congressman, who Reid believes is Andre Carson. At first the congressman would not believe the whistleblowers until they produce a video which showed members of the intelligence community members communicating with extra terrestrials! The congressman were visibly shaken and they introduced the whistleblowers to McCullough to be their lawyer.
    • (1:45:20) One of the three whistleblowers is a retiring airforce pilot who was the pilot in the Varginha UFO incident in Brazil.
    • (1:49:00) Mar Lago raid may have to do with documents regarding these SAP programs.
    • (1:54:00) The whistleblowers were motivated not by whistleblower rage, but by fear for their lives. Some information had leaked out and they felt they would be blamed, so this motivated them to come forward. The video evidence is in the hands of at least two UFO researches, and is their insurance policy. One of these researchers is a prominent video maker (???James Fox???)
    Yes, very interesting. Here's the extracted standalone segment, which we should maybe keep a close eye on. (Two more whistleblowers could be coming out soon, including, potentially very importantly, the USAF pilot connected with the Brazilian Varginha incident)

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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Clayton Morris from Redacted Tonight interviews Joshua Reid about David Grush's revelations about retrieved spacecraft

    Interview starts at 1:35:30 mark


    • (1:38:00)David Grush's lawyer is Charles McCullough, who was once the Inspector General McCullough. He testified on the Hillary Clinton email scandal in 2015 - many of these emails had to do with SAP programs.

      Reid also discusses how already in 1998 Bill Clinton was giving away technological secrets to China and other adversaries (does not say whom else) and how when Trump became president there were several prosecutions of academics giving away these secrets to foreign adversaries (again, no one but China mentioned) or instances where China would fund American university projects and then bring academics to China. (Reid interjects Bob Lazar's comment that in order to reverse engineer materials, they need to be shared with academics.)

    • (1:41:20) Per Reid's source, there are three whistleblowers, and the other two (not Grush) have the first hand information and have actual evidence which is video and photographic. Also one of them knows the location of where the "craft" are kept. They initially presented their info to an Indiana Congressman, who Reid believes is Andre Carson. At first the congressman would not believe the whistleblowers until they produce a video which showed members of the intelligence community members communicating with extra terrestrials! The congressman were visibly shaken and they introduced the whistleblowers to McCullough to be their lawyer.

    • (1:45:20) One of the three whistleblowers is a retiring airforce pilot who was the pilot in the Varginha UFO incident in Brazil.

    • (1:49:00) Mar Lago raid may have to do with documents regarding these SAP programs.

    • (1:54:00) The whistleblowers were motivated not by whistleblower rage, but by fear for their lives. Some information had leaked out and they felt they would be blamed, so this motivated them to come forward. The video evidence is in the hands of at least two UFO researches, and is their insurance policy. One of these researchers is a prominent video maker (???James Fox???)
    great stuff...highly possible. IF this **** come out give me abit of chill and pissed off at same time.

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