Predictions for 2024

[Sirus]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
That's arrogant proselytizing. It really is. You have no right to claim superior judgment on Lily's personal experiences. The 'Scriptures' are not at all 'reliable', and (as most readers here will know) have been heavily edited, altered, censored, and propagandized over many centuries of time.

There's abundant room for legitimate doubts on many issues concerning whatever happened 2,000 years ago. Whoever might have personal memories of those times (and I have too, peripherally, not in the Holy Land, but in the South of France where Mary Magdalene traveled after the crucifixion) deserves to be heard without judgment and with encouragement and genuine interest.

I believe in Lily's story and I am glad to find someone that has similar experiences, but also I am aware of various forms of deceptions made to mankind and many fall to their traps without even knowing. I am not claiming anything, I give my opinion based on various verses and it's in the hand of the person to take it or leave it.

Can I ask you then, what makes you put so much 'faith' in biblical scripture and how does it relate to your prediction for next year?

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by Sirus (here)
Can I ask you then, what makes you put so much 'faith' in biblical scripture and how does it relate to your prediction for next year?

Those are guidelines in this life. If you want to understand the big picture and how this system works, you need them. If you want to understand the right path, you need them. If you want to be protected from evil entities, you need them. And still these are a fraction of their benefit and there is a lot more.
God has let the people in this world to act in free will, but encompasses everyone, so their free will doesn't do much damage.

How it is related to my vision?
Every change has to come from humans, because it's our test, if we would have an obvious divine intervention, things would clear up in one day, but that would interfere with our test. So it has to come only as a hidden support for an individual or a group, who wants to change things for better.

[Lilyofthestars]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)

Posted by Sirus (here)
Can I ask you then, what makes you put so much 'faith' in biblical scripture and how does it relate to your prediction for next year?

Those are guidelines in this life. If you want to understand the big picture and how this system works, you need them. If you want to understand the right path, you need them. If you want to be protected from evil entities, you need them. And still these are a fraction of their benefit and there is a lot more.
God has let the people in this world to act in free will, but encompasses everyone, so their free will doesn't do much damage.

How it is related to my vision?
Every change has to come from humans, because it's our test, if we would have an obvious divine intervention, things would clear up in one day, but that would interfere with our test. So it has to come only as a hidden support for an individual or a group, who wants to change things for better.

Those are YOUR guidelines, not everyone else's. You do not have to test everything against scripture and I completely disagree. You wouldn't find a more discerning person than me. I am not some kind of naive girl running around chasing visions though I am quite accustomed to the world judging who I am and what I have experienced over my life. It's water off a duck's back so no worries about hurting my feelings. I have had more than enough proof that the things I've seen are accurate.. I don't think I need to sit here and list every point of proof I've had for it would be much too sensitive for this forum. Luckily, I've learned that I don't need approval from anyone to come into the understanding I have. My entire life's devotion to spirit comes from a place of extreme discernment and I don't follow anything blindly.

I didn't share what I wrote so that you could demand if it's "scripture approved". My apologies, I didn't realize there were many people like that on Avalon so I kindly shared with you with an open heart.. I'll leave the original reply up - I had considered editing the entire thing out after reading your reply but then realized that would be doing a disservice to other avalon members who may find value in it.

I don't mean to insult your devotion to things beings scripturally accurate but I'm in alignment with Bill's sentiments that the bible is widely inaccurate, has been edited, redacted, changed, and much of the story lost to time widely due to the ego of man and man's need to remain in control of a planet that will not allow it for much longer.

Also to Bill, yes, the french connection to Mary is an extraordinary (and true) one.

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)
Those are YOUR guidelines, not everyone else's. You do not have to test everything against scripture and I completely disagree.

I think that is the answer that I suspected, you see now that even if the experiences might be similar in appearance, in reality we are on different journey and with different purpose in life.
I hope that those combined Scriptures would be everyone's guidelines, but I know that it won't. I wish you well and sorry if my words have hurt you, it was not my intention.

[Lilyofthestars]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)

sorry if my words have hurt you, it was not my intention.

Hurt is definitely not an emotion I would use when I have been as lucky as I have to have understood the things I've come into awareness about. I know there are those with "eyes to see and ears to hear". As noted before, I won't censor myself because the things I say are uncomfortable or not approved by others.

ETA (edit to add): By the way, I study the bible from time to time. I just know it isn't accurate.
In fact I went through the horrors of going to a catholic school for many years, something I am immensely grateful for due to the wisdom I acquired from the abuse I suffered.

You say we're not on the same journey, but I say we are. People arrive to certain truths at different times in their incarnational journey. Some a little further along than others. I don't twist anyone's wrist into taking me seriously. I trust my heart because it has proven to me that my higher self in unison with cosmic influence has been right more times than I could possibly count. Sometimes it takes years after a particular experience to see just how right a certain experience really was as the proof comes later when I was least expecting it. If anything, I have to learn to stop doubting myself and letting others throw a wrench in that process. Not that you were trying to do this..

Be well.

[mountain_jim]

Having had my spiritual self psychically abused in the Southern Baptist Church as a child, then later hit rock walls of misguided certainty (in my view) as I entered in discussions and debates with Jehovah's Witnesses, Hari Krishnas, etc.; I have learned just to whistle softly while I walk the other way when confronted with Bible-absoluters or rock-hard, unchangeable (with new data) belief system defenders of any kind.

Please don't censor your views and experiences here, Lilyofthestars.

[Eagle Eye]

That's why I encourage people to read the Scriptures themselves and not let anyone tell you what it contains, except when they quote the exact verses. I know how religious structures works and I know that they are oriented to the doctrine of those who funds them, so that is why you won't find any priest quoting the Quran or any imam quoting the Psalms. That is also the reason why I am seen as an "enemy" to all religious groups, because I try to join all Scriptures together, because they are all the word of God. I know the Bible has been changed to make Jesus god or son of God, but people need to begin from what all those Scripture has in common, than get into details.

[onawah]

Amen to that!!
Developing discernment and trusting one's own intution is the path back from the kind of brainwashing most of us have been subjected to at one time or another, and especially as children...
I was wise enough as a child to recognize that the preachers at the churches which my Fundamentalist mother dragged me to were simply spouting words they did not understand at all.
I began my spiritual search in my 20s and left no stone unturned.
The result being that now I trust enough in my own abilities to recognize the truth.
There's a lot of peace of mind that comes along with that.

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Having had my spiritual self psychically abused in the Southern Baptist Church as a child, then later hit rock walls of misguided certainty (in my view) as I entered in discussions and debates with Jehovah's Witnesses, Hari Krishnas, etc.; I have learned just to whistle softly while I walk the other way when confronted with Bible-absoluters or rock-hard, unchangeable (with new data) belief system defenders of any kind.

Please don't censor your views and experiences here, Lilyofthestars.

[Harmony]

It has been my experience that when you know your own heart and trust and ask for what guidance you need, it somehow comes about, often in ways you wouldn't have expected. When we know our true direction and set that course, I feel that even with no books, churches, or external guidance our inner "scriptures" are there to be "felt/read" so that no matter where we are and what circumstances we find ourselves in, we have inner guidance and connection to guide us.


It is often great to touch bases with others that use their own best methods for direction and see how they line up or what they have in common with our own. There are many doors and paths that will lead to the same place that suit each persons own evolution. It is the "essence" that really matters.

[onawah]

Essence is key!

Posted by Harmony (here)
It has been my experience that when you know your own heart and trust and ask for what guidance you need, it somehow comes about, often in ways you wouldn't have expected. When we know our true direction and set that course, I feel that even with no books, churches, or external guidance our inner "scriptures" are there to be "felt/read" so that no matter where we are and what circumstances we find ourselves in, we have inner guidance and connection to guide us.

It is often great to touch bases with others that use their own best methods for direction and see how they line up or what they have in common with our own. There are many doors and paths that will lead to the same place that suit each persons own evolution. It is the "essence" that really matters.

[FireRat]

I don't know if any of you guys know, but 2024 has Chinese Astrology that has spelled geological trouble for the N. & S. American continent in the past. 2024 is Wood Dragon year and Major Earthquakes have occurred during these years. 1964 Alaska & 1604 Arica are good examples of this. Just my 2 cents and a heads up just in case this 60-year cycle brings big Earthquakes to the world again.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Harmony (here)
It has been my experience that when you know your own heart and trust and ask for what guidance you need, it somehow comes about, often in ways you wouldn't have expected. When we know our true direction and set that course, I feel that even with no books, churches, or external guidance our inner "scriptures" are there to be "felt/read" so that no matter where we are and what circumstances we find ourselves in, we have inner guidance and connection to guide us.


It is often great to touch bases with others that use their own best methods for direction and see how they line up or what they have in common with our own. There are many doors and paths that will lead to the same place that suit each persons own evolution. It is the "essence" that really matters.

In my 20's, as I made major life decisions and chose paths from options along the way, I used the I Ching or Book of Changes as a tool to help me channel my intuition/guidance better, to inform these choices and help me understand why things I desired might be aways off yet (life partner, etc.)

I kept a journal of every reading - questions and the results via the Hexagrams and especially the moving lines from one state to another (changes).

Some of these 'readings' were very spot on on the way things would play out for me over the next 2 decades.

Later I got in better touch with my own inner guidance and felt that I did not need this tool any longer, but I still keep the Chinese coins and the Wilhelm/Baynes The I Ching or Book of Changes third edition (1961) in an honored place in my library.

[Delight]

I sincerely expect the continued apocalypse in 2024. I welcome a tsunami of tuth to wash over us. It is one by one. I expect we will feel more and more connected to truth and the source of life.

I heard an NDE'er report that she left this realm and was sitting on a log with God. God asked her: "What if it was just you and me". That totally captivated me and started me imagining what IF I am here just with God? What if YOU are here just with God? Individual experience is showing itself to be ever more divergent. We cannot find a central point for all beliefs. People are ABSOLUTELY positive that the beliefs they have are real. THEY ARE REAL to those who hold them.

I have learned so much lately form other experiencers testimonuy concerning an opening of the veil. One person helped me comprehend that PERHAPS the very basic ignorance of how we can believe naything but we actually are beings of emotionally expressed frequency. WE ARE ENERGY BEINGS CREATING THE ILLUSION MIND BUILDS.

I accept that this is an opportunity that I chose... to allow GOD and my "self" to have a RELATIONSHIP. I receive everything I could possibly ever imagine from the Force that creates Universes and yet knows me. God is here with ME now! What I believe is how God will display ME to me. Therefore the imperative to let go of all belief that does not serve ME. This reality is in existance because we create it. It is the simulation before it was "hacked".

The TRICK has always been to play on ignorance. If you are with God, you will know whatever you ask. If you think you are alone, you ONLY cut off the INCREDIBLE flow of God's being which is good. You see your creation of a life but feel cut off from the refreshing source. You become vampiric and the whole pyramid of vampires is structured in the mind. Beings all are being vamped and beliefs justify the sacrifice. It's all a mind construct to explain and justify a realm ogf hungry ghosts.

This is changing because many of us are having a direct relationship with God. No middle men needed and no doubt that it is real.

I will never need to vamp anyone again. My world has turned upside down. Imagine it with me. I am a tree whose roots are in the spirit world. God is feeding me and cradling my being and giving me life. It is a splendid vision. It is visceral and true. I spread branches and bring the spiritual into physical creating my reality as my leaves and fruit. Do you get it... this will be what I believe.

I believe now that I am a child of joy. God and I explore that quality.

I know now that there is no one's mind that will solve the dilemmas. The fruit of being with God will come into form from a unique unknown place.

I listen to lots of podcasts and can now confidently ignore more and more of all belief. I have been relieved of huge amounts of sorrow. I realized I had believed I am a child of sorrow in a suffering place. I have absolutely done what a very wise woman described... using my empathic ability to take energy from others. It came about by my belief in sorrow... that one must take on others pain. Actually it is a symptom of energy starvation. The Inversion where our roots are believed to be in the material has Inverted all beliefs around that ignorance. If we knew to just turn upside down and inside out, we would know we have all needed for complete healing and all good to prevail.

This is the world I am creating by my belief. Healers who take on others energy have actaully become inverted and are not bringing the God Force in. We all just turn round right and the Force who is with us becomes PERSONAL. This is an amzing journey. It is why we came here... to simply have a relationship with God.
The antidote to the trick is to KNOW you are here with God and have no need of beliefs.

THE INVERTED RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER BEINGS IS tHE BELIEF!! THAT WE ARE NOT WITH GOD AND NEED TO TAKE ENERGY FROM OUTSIDE. Try believing that it just you and God here.

[Eagle Eye]

[55 : 33] O assembly of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of heaven and the earth, then pass! But you will never be able to pass them except by authority.

[Matthew]

Posted by Delight (here)
... becomes PERSONAL. This is an amzing journey. It is why we came here... to simply have a relationship with God.
The antidote to the trick is to KNOW you are here with God and have no need of beliefs. ...

It reminds me of the idea that a baby has to figure out that it's separate from its mother after birth. Baby and mother are joined for nine months, it can be confusing. What personal wisdom originates from me?, and what wisdom originates from the spirit of God? There is both, and personal sophistry can drown out the spirit. The pretext of this position has our personal wisdom below Gods, and pitches all creation as equal under God. These perspectives don't always offer instant victory when facing day to day problems in Babylon, but feels strongly like a spiritual victory.

[Bill Ryan]

This might belong here. (Possibly! )

I found it extremely interesting, just as a human condition thing. The video below is a collection of 50 clips of people reporting dreams they've had of the US being attacked, in almost all instances by Russia and/or China. There's a marked Christian overlay (e.g. "The Lord showed me this"), but basically it was very scary invasion dreams being described in detail by very regular people.

Some of those on camera were visibly upset, and clearly the experiences were real, vivid and unusual. The scenes being shown often made little military sense — such as Russian paratroopers jumping from helicopters over American cities and shooting at civilians, Russian planes dropping bombs just as in WWII (that no longer happens!), and Chinese amphibious landing craft on Atlantic beaches.

And of course, many of these clips will have been filtered and chosen to depict a very particular theme. Mostly there are no dates, but one clip said the dream happened in 1998, another in 2009, while others were from 2018-22. So it all may have been collected over a number of years.

All reported here for human interest. It's very hard to believe this kind of thing could possibly happen, though a missile attack on the US might be far more likely. And there's little that suggests anything happening in 2024... one said 2025, but many of those on camera just said 'soon'.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Div1qZCWUWU

[Matthew]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This might belong here. (Possibly! )
... one said 2025, but many of those on camera just said 'soon'.



...

One said soon. Another said very soon. Another said very, very soon. The one that quoted 2025 said by 2025. Around invasion specifics there was overlap with a variety of other prophecies; I had constant déjà vu.

[Matthew]

Oh, I'm sure one said something about bombs on a Saturday, but it was not a recurring theme.

[Antagenet]

20 years ago I had a dream that I visited the neighborhood I grew up in (outside of Boston, Ma) and half of the houses were filled with
Chinese Nationals, who now speak English. In the second part of my dream I saw Russian submarines arriving on the coast of Florida.

Now that dream seems more likely than ever.

[Eagle Eye]

There is a big difference between visions and dreams. Visions happen when conscious, are persistent (different fragments of an event in different days, months or years) and can be a message or warning from God, angels, or other beings benevolent or not. While dreams are mostly different from one another, happen while unconscious and mostly are images or fears processed and seen as an event.