Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

[Rizotto]

Lahaina Town is a CRIME SCENE! Demand an ESTOPPEL NOW

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VtXjYI-Rz0g

[Satori]

It has become very apparent since this tragedy unfolded that Lahaina, Maui, has not been wiped off the map. To be sure, many parts of the town suffered catastrophic damage, but it was not wiped off the map. With the passage of time it would serve us well to reconsider and reject that concept.

However, that Lahaina still stands provides no explanation for the cause(s) of the fires and the myriad failures of those entrusted with disaster preparedness, response and relief. Nor, and most significantly, does it answer the questions surrounding the whereabouts and fate of the missing and unaccounted for citizens of Lahaina.

[Raskolnikov]

I know some may think this off topic but I feel it's at the top of the list for explaining what's happening right now with all the fires and catastrophic weather events hitting the world's great cities and countries right now. Klaus Schwab's lap dog, Yuval Harari, comes across in these passages like an AI incarnation, especially when he says, "What do we need humans for?" as if he's speaking for his AI God, and then in answer to his own question states, "...keep them happy with drugs and computer games," as if he's not human himself. Read for yourself:

“Some people think, again, that creativity is some, I don’t know, some mystical supernatural thing that AI will never have. But actually, in many cases, creativity means being able to spot a pattern and then break it in a creative way, in a new way do something new. And this is something that AI is becoming very good at…

One of the biggest dangers with this new technology is that, you know, a lot of jobs will disappear. So the biggest question in the job market would be whether you are able to retrain yourself to fill the new job and whether the government is able to create this vast educational system to retrain the population. People will need to retrain themselves, or if they can’t do it, then if you can’t do it the danger is, you fall down to a new class not unemployed, but unemployable, the useless class, people who don’t have any skills that the new economy needs.”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=94o-9zR2bew

“Some governments and corporations for the first time in history have the power to basically hack human beings. There is a lot of talk about hacking computers, hacking smart phones, hacking bank accounts, but the big story of our era is the ability to hack human beings, and by this I mean that if you have enough data and you have enough computing power, you can understand people better than they understand themselves and then you can manipulate them in ways that were previously impossible. And, in such a situation, the old democratic system stop functioning. We need to reinvent democracy for this new era in which humans are now hackable animals. You know, the whole idea that humans have this soul or spirit or they have free will, and nobody knows what’s happening inside me, so whatever I choose, whether in the election or in the supermarket, this is my free will - that’s over.”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NV0CtZga7qM

If you go back to the middle of the 20th century — and it doesn’t matter if you’re in the United States with Roosevelt, or if you’re in Germany with Hitler, or even in the USSR with Stalin — and you think about building the future, then your building materials are those millions of people who are working hard in the factories, in the farms, the soldiers. You need them. You don’t have any kind of future without them.

“Now, fast forward to the early 21st century when we just don’t need the vast majority of the population,” the WEF adviser concluded, “because the future is about developing more and more sophisticated technology, like artificial intelligence [and] bioengineering, Most people don’t contribute anything to that, except perhaps for their data, and whatever people are still doing which is useful, these technologies increasingly will make redundant and will make it possible to replace the people.”

Harari: “The big political and economic question of the 21st Century will be, ‘What do we need humans for?’ Or, at least, ‘What do we need so many humans for?’”
Interviewer: “Do you have an answer…?”
Harari: “Um, at present, the best guess we have is keep them happy with drugs and computer games.”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lgwu0qL51Pg

[Rizotto]

Police officers said "I have orders", as an explanation for blocking escape routes.

INTENTIONAL DEATH TRAP “If I had listened to the Police..I’d Be Dead” Lahaina Fire Survivor Story

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RuWtCL6S7cs

[thepainterdoug]

Hararis comments remind me of the line by Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park when he says, "just because you could, doesn't mean you should" regarding the recreating of the dinosaurs.
Nothing is forcing Klaus Schwab, Harari and the WEF to move in the direction they are. They are choosing this and then by way of self anointment ,plan to implement this on the rest of us .
My question to them would be , do you have children ? and do they have human emotions, do they dream and desire love, have feelings for animals and imaginary worlds of creativity like dolls , play pretend and so on? Will they fall in love and marry, then raise families? Do you not want this for them. The chance and right to pursue happiness?
Or is all that over?

to return directly to this thread, I still dont understand what happened to these children? what of the school busses, the bus drivers, the records of their actions and the seemingly missing outrage and concern over this most horrific reality.
It's like, nothing to see here, move on people.

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
My question to them would be, do you have children? and do they have human emotions, do they dream and desire love, have feelings for animals and imaginary worlds of creativity like dolls, play pretend and so on? Will they fall in love and marry, then raise families? Do you not want this for them. The chance and right to pursue happiness?
Or is all that over?

Unfortunately, I think those are questions for humans. Remember supposedly both John Carpenter and Roddy Piper said They Live was not a work of fiction but a documentary. The Hermetic text in the Emerald Tablets even speaks of this, not of They Live, but of dark spirits from the shadows inhabiting bodies here, "Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted, but appearing to man as men among men. Crept they into the councils, taking form that were like unto men. Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms, taking their form and ruling o'er man." It speaks of blood offerings as being necessary to dwell among men. That was 36,000 years ago, or was that yesterday? Have to admit, it would sure explain the cabinets and councils we see today.

What I don't understand is how a list of the children still missing hasn't come forth yet. Were all the records burnt as well? Why can't we get a list along with accompanying pictures? I just get a gut-feeling the people who could do this...


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/VP4mC6rOW71e


...could easily pull off a Lahaina or a 9/11.

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On a brighter note, this is good to see - BJ PENN LEADING A 50,000+ PEOPLE MARCH TO LAHAINA


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/3SCZr9WbP53X

[Raskolnikov]

Ok, I didn't want to take this one seriously, but Deborah Tavares just posted it so now I'm not sure. Fema Camps and gas chambers...

Source: https://odysee.com/$/embed/MAUI-GAS-CHAMBERS--IS-GREENS-1-BILLION-DOLLAR--FEMA-CENTER-FOR-FIRE-VICTIMS-ABOUT-EUGENICS-DEPOPULATION:f

[onawah]

If Tavares posted it, that is cause to NOT take it seriously.

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
Ok, I didn't want to take this one seriously, but Deborah Tavares just posted it so now I'm not sure. Fema Camps and gas chambers...

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by onawah (here)
If Tavares posted it, that is cause to NOT take it seriously.

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
Ok, I didn't want to take this one seriously, but Deborah Tavares just posted it so now I'm not sure. Fema Camps and gas chambers...

Can you give me a bit more? Know she's a bit over the top, but so is Alex Jones and he's been right more than not.

[onawah]

Try this 22 page thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...eborah-Tavares
Also see this post, which I have copied and pasted as follows: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1321287

Posted by onawah (here)
True, Tavares isn't a reliable source, but please don't stop there. See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1320329 as follows:

Posted by xylo (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
I happened to see the post above on the Forum's list of new posts, checked it out, and was surprised to see my name come up.
I certainly do see more clearly now why Tavares's activities are of such concern.
But I never would have had so much trouble understanding why when I first began reading the thread if one crucial factor hadn't been lost in the shuffle (for me, at least).
Which is why, since it appears that Tavares might well be part of a planned (perhaps by the CIA, as it certainly seems to display their stamp of nefariousness) agenda to have an easily debunked source like Tavares ready to exploit in the event that enough people begin to seriously question various Agenda 21/2030 activities... WHY was that aspect barely mentioned on the thread?
We know that Agenda 21/2030 activities, which info sources other than Tavares ( credible ones, such as Rosa Koire) are documenting a lot of the same material as well, although without the lies and forgeries.
Initially I thought Tavares was just doing a lousy job of exposing things that needed to be exposed, but of course, as time went on and the lies and forgeries became more numerous and blatant, it seemed clear that she must be part of some bigger and even darker agenda.
(Although the truth is horrible enough without such embellishments.)
Why that wasn't emphasized on the thread but actually downplayed or ignored made me wonder if there was something even more complicated and secretive under way and if this forum is being used as a tool.
And that is the reason why I simply abandoned this thread, having voiced those concerns.
And if there have still been no successful attempts to expose Tavares publicly, then I have to wonder if she is going to be protected until there are actually riots.
Which is just what she seems to be trying to instigate.
Rioting would give the "authorities" a perfect reason to discredit ALL reports about the Agendas and make people even more fearful, which is always to their supposed advantage, of course.
And if at that time, might she just be given a slap on the wrist or ...?? perhaps a staged "suicide" or something similar that smacks of CIA tactics.
That would be proof sufficient for me that it was planned from the beginning, and she was just hired on to be on the stage of a very staged event.
The REAL challenge, in my view, is not to prove that Tavares is a hoax, but to uncover WHY she is distorting the truth about the issues which really SHOULD be in the public's awareness, and WHO is behind that.
It seems obvious to me that it's much too fishy an operation to have been created solely by her and her cohort.

Thanks onawah!

Your perspective and theories match my own. There is value in contributing to the destabilization of society, precisely for the reasons you mention. It’s a form of psyop and false flag, or at least manufactured crisis. I too have come to believe that Tavares is sponsored. Her channel has been monetized throughout the period of time when far less radical channels were demonetized, censored and sometimes taken down. Although she’s spread a rumor that she’s now demonetized, I don’t believe it. The amount of advertising placed around her presentations has only grown. YouTube’s “hate speech” policies do not apply to Tavares. At first because it ticked me off, and later as an experiment, I started reporting comments that call for violence and murder, or are blatant epithets both racial and cultural. Obscene stuff. All of it was left standing. There’s more but bottom line YouTube likes her. Her channel has become (at times) a hate platform, some presentations worse than others. Her listeners adore her. “Awake” in Tavares world means several things. (A) agree that there’s no hope (B)memorize Deborah’s control mantras and reiterate them on cue (C) discourage independent research and vetting “Deborah tells us what we need to know.” (D) questioning her stories or merely requesting substantiation labels one as “a paid government troll” or “MSM shill”. If “evil’s first weapon is fear”, then evil loves Deborah Tavares. She’s even stopped manufacturing “documents” as her listener base and grapevine is now substantial enough that no documentation is necessary. “Rothschild is facilitating youth seminars worldwide to condition young people into cannibalism” and it’s all decreed by “executive orders”. having a solar panel electricity generating system is now “the equivalent of letting suicide bombers sleep in your garage.” It goes on and on and in. Sure enough, listeners accept it as verbatim verified truth. Ask for examples or substantiation of any such events or an executive order number? “TROLL!” attacked by Tavares worker drones. The effect of her work is fear and hate based dogma, really no different than the kkk or any devout order of hate.

One thing which continues to stand out for me is that she often plays the victim card, to include her kids and grandkids. She’s certainly aware that if the wrong toes are stepped on too many times, activists may be disappeared, and the way to really shut someone up is to target a child or grandchild. And yet, Deborah boldly goes about her work, only increasing in radical instigating tone, with apparently no concern for the well being of her family. I think she’s nuts, but I do not think she would put a child or grandchild at risk.

It’s occurred to me that there’s no better way to hide a real conspiracy than to bury it amidst a plethora of fake conspiracies. It becomes a room full of mirrors, no one knows what’s real and what’s not. If some of that is going on, Deborah’s value becomes even more apparent. She’s manufacturing allegations cross-referenced with other allegations so quickly and prolifically right now that it’s impossible to keep up. Sometimes I’ll write out her words because seeing it in writing makes the craziness much more apparent. I can’t keep up anymore, she’s rattling stuff off so fast. 50-100 new conspiracies per talk. “The blind are now our enemies” “firefighters are costumed imposters who organize busloads of homeless looters” (some fans run with that one into characterizing these supposed looters as “black” except that’s not the word they use.) so it’s no longer just “the jews.”

Ok, that’s my 3 cents du jour, and thanks onawah, I really appreciate your update,

Best

xylo

Posted by AutumnW (here)
PG and E. Simple. Think like a pyschopath. Have they declared bankruptcy after failing to do appropriate maintenance causing massive fires? Deferred or ignored maintenance would have boosted their profits while padding the incomes of senior managements and the board, whose incomes are derived, in large part, from shares in the company.

In the event of a disaster, they can declare bankruptcy and then lean on the government to provide funding to get it fixed and make them 'whole' again. Look to the Tarp program that bailed out banks that were too big to fail. Same thing will happen here. They are too big to fail.

Look for more of this in the future across all infrastructure sectors. Things will crumble and private industry will walk while you pick up the bill. It's privatizations of profits and socialization of costs through your tax dollars.

Doesn't seem to be an esoteric type of conspiracy or intentional setting of fires, just good old greed. Of course the alt right media, through the University of YOutube videos would have you think otherwise.


Deborah Tavares isn't a reliable source.

Rosa Koire, however, is the real deal, imho. See: https://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3PrY7nFbwAY

I REALLY hope that more Avalonians will start paying more attention to the credible sources of info about Agenda 21 and 2030. The elite are wasting no time in implementing them!

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
If Tavares posted it, that is cause to NOT take it seriously.

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
Ok, I didn't want to take this one seriously, but Deborah Tavares just posted it so now I'm not sure. Fema Camps and gas chambers...

Can you give me a bit more? Know she's a bit over the top, but so is Alex Jones and he's been right more than not.

PS Rosa Koire, who was a very reliable source, has now passed, sadly.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Mounting evidence suggest that Maui fires were caused by Directed Energy Weapons

Mounting evidence suggest that Maui fires were caused by Directed Energy Weapons

Steve Favis is an expert in computer science and advanced robotics. He has been researching the Maui fires and has compiled evidence that the technology exists to have started these fires from a satellite in earth orbit. He has also confirmed that the CCP had satellites capable of doing so above Maui at the time of the fires. His work has been published on his website stevefavis.com and includes everything you need to recreate his findings.

The most efficient way to ignite a fire on the surface from a satellite in earth orbit would be to paint the target in segments by pulsing the laser with an advanced targeting system. To see if this were possible, Favis calculated what it would require to create a meter-wide mile-long fire.

Fired from a satellite, the Earth's atmosphere will absorb and scatter some of the laser energy. And so the laser would need to be in a wavelength range that minimizes this. The most effective wavelength would be in the near-infrared range which would allow better transmission through the atmosphere. The near-infrared range would be invisible to the naked eye, and would also have a minimal reaction with objects colored blue on the Earth’s surface.

The power of the laser would need to be in the hundreds of kilowatts range. And so Favis based his calculations on a 10-megawatt laser firing from earth orbit. Assuming that the atmospheric loss amounts to 50% of the overall power and only 5 megawatts reaches the surface as a one square meter beam, it would ignite a fire almost instantly.

If this 5-megawatt beam was pulsed across a one-meter by one-mile-long area in segments, then the time to ignite the entire area would be roughly 2.7 minutes. And it would take approximately 8.8 seconds to melt an aluminum alloy wheel.

The amount of energy required to pulse a 10-megawatt laser for 2.7 minutes would require approximately 3,220 capacitors, which would amount to about 32,200 kilograms in weight.

Using Matlab software and plugging in public data provided from NORAD, he found that satellites launched and monitored by the CCP were directly above the Maui fires at the time of ignition.

The CCP’s most powerful rocket, the March 5, can launch up to 48,500 kilograms of payload. Which is enough to carry the required payload. But Favis has found that the CCP has much more powerful lasers deployed already. He has calculated that the CCP has up to 70 GIGAwatt lasers in earth orbit right now. That’s at least a hundred times more powerful than what he factored into these calculations.

Adjusting NORAD’s default Coordinated Universal Time, or UTC, to the local time zones Favis found the following:

The Olinda fire was ignited at approximately 10:47 pm on August 7th. At this exact time, CCP satellite labeled NORAD_53299 was directly over the location.

The Lahaina fire was ignited at approximately 6:37 am on August 8th. At this exact time, CCP satellite labeled NORAD_55836 was directly over the location.

The Kula fire was ignited at approximately 11:30 am on August 8th. At this exact time, CCP satellite labeled NORAD_53299 was directly over the location.

The so-called Deep State does not want you to know that deadly lasers of mass destruction are freely traveling above us. And you can check this all for yourself at stevefavis.com where he provides the source code and has developed a specific software program that you can download and check for these satellites yourself.

• gregreese.substack.com
• stevefavis.com

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by onawah (here)
Try this 22 page thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...eborah-Tavares
Also see this post, which I have copied and pasted as follows: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1321287

Thanks onawah. After scanning the beginning of that thread, I will keep an open mind about Tavares, too many red flags with Mr. snoop4truth the lawyer with an axe to grind. The whole thing just felt like an exercise in damage control and anger mismanagement through some CIA spook, maybe he should have called himself spook4truth. No disrepect meant. It also appears that nearly everyone on PA had serious issues and concerns with this guy, yourself included (though I haven't made it to the end of the thread, maybe that changes?) Honestly, I've always felt a little distrustful about everything Tavares says, though she appears earnest in most respects, and know I have to take it all with a grain of salt and do my own due diligence in uncovering the truth. Thanks for the heads up. That's one hell of a thread you threw at me!

[onawah]

Yes, and yes, I did change my mind and came to agree with Snoop.

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Try this 22 page thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...eborah-Tavares
Also see this post, which I have copied and pasted as follows: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1321287

Thanks onawah. After scanning the beginning of that thread, I will keep an open mind about Tavares, too many red flags with Mr. snoop4truth the lawyer with an axe to grind. The whole thing just felt like an exercise in damage control and anger mismanagement through some CIA spook, maybe he should have called himself spook4truth. No disrepect meant. It also appears that nearly everyone on PA had serious issues and concerns with this guy, yourself included (though I haven't made it to the end of the thread, maybe that changes?)

[Rizotto]

As a Canadian who never watches TV, I don't really know much about Oprah. So, when I came across the video below I was struck by Oprah's inappropriate smirks throughout most of that video. Completely inappropriate smirks considering the context of the horrible tragedy of the Lahaina fire. Has she always been like that? Perhaps I'm misreading her body language, but to me it looks like "duping delight".

(a good description of 'duping delight' at this link: https://psychopathsinlife.com/psycho...uping-delight/)

(Note #2: a good example of 'duping delight' is the smirking Justin Turdeau when he's lying, which he does often)

Oprah FINALLY Responds To Maui Residents Exposing Her LAND GRAB SCAM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5e91iJ7-bvI

[Arcturian108]

Clear explanation of the best theory explaining how DEWs were used in Maui, involving Chinese satellites:
https://twitter.com/TPV_John/status/1704249780564640023

[Raskolnikov]

Blue house aside, post this purely for the not-an-f'ing-wildfire/clearly-an-attack factor...


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/suH2KKLoZ4L3


that is identical with what you see in this one...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zhdi96Rf_jk

and the tree burning from the inside out like we saw for the first time in the California fires at the 00:30 mark in this one...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9qFoRaTm8oQ

[Raskolnikov]

Some side by side comparisons of Lahaina before and after the fire.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=j-ZnayPTe4c

[Raskolnikov]

Couple short news clips of interest.

MORNING BEAT: HARROWING EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS CAST DOUBT ON OFFICIAL LAHAINA FIRE


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Cr3IOUot5I21


This one's great, local leaves car while escaping fire to put out someone else's fire.


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/BrFECo7oR7Xd

[Raskolnikov]

27 names remain on the Maui police and FBI unaccounted list?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=X_YppkHcHNw

Wendy Bell of Newsmax's Common Sense - The media's already forgotten about Maui, "Isn't it a coincidence?"


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/6IQwuWJ214PG

[ExomatrixTV]

• Joe Rogan EXPOSES How The Hollywood Elites Like Oprah Want To STEAL Land In Maui:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cuAqe_S1TGI

Joe Rogan, the well-known voice of reason and curiosity, has recently unleashed a powerful call to action in defense of Maui residents. He's taken a stand against elites who are greedily eyeing the land of these islanders, questioning the audacity of anyone trying to snatch away their homes, especially during their most vulnerable moments. The people of Maui, particularly in Lahaina, are deeply troubled by the looming possibility that their ancestral lands might be taken by the state. But here's the twist: it's not just the government at play here. Wealthy real estate investors, developers, and elites are also in the mix, making enticing offers for the fire-ravaged land. So, join us as we unravel the compelling story of post-tragedy Maui, where forces both public and private seem determined to grab a piece of paradise from its rightful owners. Just recently, Joe Rogan invited Tulsi Gabbard, who represented Hawaii's second congressional district in the U.S. from 2013 to 2021, to his show, "The Joe Rogan Experience."

During their conversation, they delved into the response to the devastating fires that struck Maui. What's really eye-opening is that Joe Rogan brought up some concerning allegations about someone attempting to take away the land belonging to Maui's residents. And surprisingly, Tulsi confirmed Joe's suspicions right there on the show. Now, here's where it gets interesting. The folks on the show, including Joe and Tulsi, didn't take kindly to the idea of snatching land affected by the Maui wildfires for things like workforce housing or a memorial. They saw it as morally wrong and a breach of people's rights and sovereignty. This news hit the public like a bolt from the blue. People felt that discussing taking over this land right after a terrible tragedy showed a shocking lack of empathy and timing. It felt like an abuse of power and a disregard for the suffering of those affected. Tulsi Gabbard didn't stop there. She also shed light on the lack of government help for the communities hit by the Maui wildfires. In the aftermath, neighbors and families had to lean on each other for support and supplies because the government didn't step in. Tulsi even hopped on a plane from the main airport in Maui to a smaller one near the affected area to deliver much-needed supplies to the community dealing with the aftermath of the wildfires. As if that wasn't enough, towards the end of last year, Oprah Winfrey made headlines once again by acquiring two 10-acre pieces of land, each for just a hundred thousand dollars.

This purchase stirred up quite a mix of reactions from the local residents. Some were concerned that this acquisition might contribute to the displacement of native Hawaiians. It's worth noting that Oprah already owned over 100 acres of land in Maui, which means she now boasts ownership of roughly 1,000 acres on the island. Now, here's where the public's frustration really kicks in. Instead of trying to push out the residents who've been through so much, people are wondering why the government doesn't make use of some of Oprah's land instead. It's almost like a logical solution staring them in the face. These offers are being labeled as predatory by experts, mainly because they're taking advantage of the people's misfortune and desperation. This has led local authorities to step in and take action to protect residents who are not only dealing with the loss of their loved ones but also the loss of their homes and livelihoods due to these catastrophic wildfires. Thankfully, some heroes have stepped in to protect Maui's people and their land.

They're shouting it loud and clear: "Maui is not up for sale!" One of these heroes is a law professor named Troy Andrade. He's working his socks off to educate and shield Maui residents from these sneaky tricks. The Hawaii Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs has raised a big red flag about these tricky real estate pitches. They're warning folks in Maui to be careful. This is where Joe Rogan stepped in, boldly calling out the elites for their shady dealings. Let's face it, losing your loved ones, your homes, and even your land all at once is an incredibly heart-wrenching experience. In the face of adversity, Maui residents are standing strong, united in their determination to protect their homes, their land, and their way of life. It's a battle to keep Maui in the hands of the people who call it home. They're calling for unity, telling everyone to spread the word and stand tall to save Maui from those who want to snatch it away. Maui belongs to its people, and they're ready to fight to keep it that way. So, what do you think about this wild situation in Maui? Share your thoughts below.