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    4,000-Year-Old Lost Tribe
    A discovery of a Northern European tribe found in the northeast corner of Xinjiang
    province, near the Celestial Mountains and the Taklimakan Desert on the edge of the
    Gobi desert.

    Chinese archaeologist Wang Binghus started searching for ancient sites. He began by following stream beds, and asking the locals if they had ever come across any broken pots and artifacts. He eventually came across a few people who pointed out that there was a place called Qizilchoqa, or, as the local people called it, Red hill. Here he made the most amazing discovery, the first of the mummies. It had been placed in a grave on the side of the hill.

    It was a simple site, rush mats were on the floor, and some of the bodies were buried in the fetal position. In effect, the mummies were not what you would call real mummies, in the sense that they were not embalmed. They had been preserved in an amazing way. They had been placed in the ground, which had been subjected to a unique weather system. Heat, aridity, and bitter winter cold, mixed with salty soil, had preserved them better than other mummies found around the world. Even the clothing was still perfectly recognizable.

    The bodies were excavated and taken to the museum in the city of Urumqi. There were 113 bodies taken from the site. At the time the Chinese government did not have enough funds to excavate the find. Wang eventually discovered three more burial sites.

    The faces of the mummies were very well preserved, so, on closer examination, they could see that they were not Chinese. They had blonde hair, big eyes, and European noses.



    At that time, Chinese tradition had always shown the fact that they believed China had developed independently from the rest of the world. Because of this, the government was reluctant to bring the findings to the public attention.

    But soon they realized that the proof was irrefutable.



    The most extraordinary thing about the mummies was the fact that their clothes were in such good condition. A jacket belonging to one man, over three thousand years old, still had a crimson edge. And the women had artificial extensions in their hair.

    This tribe was obviously very advanced for its day. On one of the mummies, there is a scar that shows they had rudimentary operating skills. It had been sown up with horse hair.

    The Chinese authorities were still a bit reluctant to let anybody know about them, so it has taken quite a long time for the West to be able to study them properly.

    In 1993, they were allowed back with a team of geneticists from Italy. And this is when they began to study them properly. They used the most up-to-date technology of the time to confirm the date of the mummies. They now believe that they are about 4,000 years old, and the youngest at about 2,000. There are probably many more to be found, possibly in the same region of China, but it is also possible they could have settled anywhere in China, as long as the conditions were suitable to live in.




    Source: https://owlcation.com/humanities/The...-Ancient-China




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    Default Re: The White Tribe of Ancient China

    Fascinating. As opposed to an OOPA this is an OOPH (Out Of Place Human)

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    Default Re: The White Tribe of Ancient China

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Fascinating. As opposed to an OOPA this is an OOPH (Out Of Place Human)
    They're Celts (well, they look like Celts), I have a theory on where they came from and how they migrated, got threatened with my life on it once, ahh well.



    The reconstruction by an Artist on this "Mummy" reminds me of an Irish actress, can't get to her name right now. Some of us will have similar features to the image (jawline, eyes, hair etc).
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    Default Re: The White Tribe of Ancient China

    Quote Posted by 9ideon (here)
    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Fascinating. As opposed to an OOPA this is an OOPH (Out Of Place Human)
    They're Celts (well, they look like Celts), I have a theory on where they came from and how they migrated, got threatened with my life on it once, ahh well.



    The reconstruction by an Artist on this "Mummy" reminds me of an Irish actress, can't get to her name right now some of us will have similar features to the image (jawline, eyes, hair etc).
    ...scythian who are strongly connected to celts, and were in china, at their eastern extent
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    Default Re: The White Tribe of Ancient China

    https://bigthink.com/the-present/scy...warrior-women/

    The Scythians were the rulers of the Steppes from Ukraine to Xinjiang and the probable inventors of horseback riding.

    https://www.libraryireland.com/Pedig...ian-family.php
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    Default Re: The White Tribe of Ancient China

    This is a fascinating topic. I started a thread on the mummies in 2013 and aways look for new info.

    Caucasian Mummies from the Taklamakan 4000 years ago

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    Default Re: The White Tribe of Ancient China

    These videos have interesting info. Nomadic, redhaired, cultured peoples who spread world wide. I think they are all related.

    I listen to videos. Videos come and go. FYI if interested....

    The problem of Tocharian origins - James Mallory



    The TRUE Appearance of Chinggis Khan: Red hair, Green eyes?



    The Lost Kingdoms: A Buddhist kingdom beneath the sands 1



    Tocharian and Kuchan Warfare



    playlist of more!

    Xinjiang Mummies - Taklamakan - Tarim Basin
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    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...ua2qci1HS3UDyD
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    Default Re: The White Tribe of Ancient China

    Quote Posted by ian33 (here)
    The Scythians were the rulers of the Steppes from Ukraine to Xinjiang and the probable inventors of horseback riding.

    They did make a breeding program that developed the modern horse--however, independently at the same time was the Arabian:

    It is also one of the oldest breeds, with archaeological evidence of horses in the Middle East that resemble modern Arabians dating back 4,500 years.



    The Celtic appearance of some Tarim or Urumqi mummies is disqualified by their genetics:

    A genomic study published in 2021 found that these early mummies (dating from 2,135 to 1,623 BCE) had high levels of Ancient North Eurasian ancestry (ANE, about 72%), with smaller admixture from Ancient Northeast Asians (ANA, about 28%), but no detectable Western Steppe-related ancestry.


    The mummies reflect the same time period as the spread of the Central Asian horse. But they are not Celtic or Scythian.

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