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    Default Dr. Jordan Peterson Reacts to Court Decision to Take Away His Freedom of Speech

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    Dr. Jordan Peterson reacts to a new court decision to take away his freedom of speech. The original order came from the College of Psychologists of Ontario for Dr. Peterson to undergo a re-education program by their so-called "social media experts" -- a profession that does not exist - until, in their judgement, Jordan has "learned his lesson" or they can take away his license.

    Jordan Peterson is defiant against not having the right to have a political opinion (or the right to have so-called "unacceptable views"). If the College insists on Jordan being re-educated in order to keep his license, he says, "Bring it on!" and will air it all publicly so that everyone can watch and see exactly what they're doing to him.

    Obviously, anyone who questions the globalist's narrative/agenda is a danger to them. Their tentacles have reached deeply into many countries. So of course, where they are concerned, anyone who calls out their insanity needs to be attacked, ridiculed and/or silenced.

    In this interview, Jordan Peterson also addresses the "woke" culture (which includes climate alarmism and the LGBTQ movement), his opposition to that ideology, and how it's all connected to this attack on his ability to speak freely in Canada. He warns that the same censorship agenda is happening in other countries. By standing up against the system that's becoming more tyrannical by the day, he knows he is a strong voice for Canadians and for people around the world who still think freedom of speech is everyone's right.


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    Default Re: Dr. Jordan Peterson Reacts to Court Decision to Take Away His Freedom of Speech

    this is very important and most people have no idea this is even real or a debate. We need people like Jordan to take this head on and to fight back for himself and all of us .

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    Default Re: Dr. Jordan Peterson Reacts to Court Decision to Take Away His Freedom of Speech

    My current timeline for things returning to some semblance of normalcy and sanity is four years. That fits with Jordan's estimate for his lawfare challenge to be resolved.

    I don't believe we will ever return to the 'way things were', or even that in 4 years peace will dawn upon a new era of truth and reconciliation. No, I believe though, that in four years we will walk back a lot of the narratives that have dominated the planet these last ten to thirteen years to a place from where the truth will be evident and a new way forward will be advocated for by the masses.

    What that will look like I don't know.

    I'm sure that the new realities of our present situation will force a great deal of social justice and reparations to the fore. But not based on race, based on the corrupt system that has fleeced us all. Systems will need to be dismantled and reimagined to foster true equity and equal opportunity. So much will need to be rethought and rebuilt from the ground on up.

    But not in four years. In four years free speech might be restored to a large degree and there will be far less censorship on social media. Even the news might return to its fair reporting and in depth investigations unfettered by political affiliation. These things take time, but they all spring from one central irrefutable point: without free speech there is no justice.

    I hope Jordan Peterson follows through on his plan. It could turn out to be the watershed moment we, at least I, have been waiting a long time for.
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    Default Re: Dr. Jordan Peterson Reacts to Court Decision to Take Away His Freedom of Speech

    This is not just an issue in Canada, or any other country, it is happening everywhere. And the worst part about it, is it has a trickle affect, and people who are , "Not wanting to rock the boat" are supporting it, (Whether willingly or not) without even realizing that eventually it will come back and bit them in the butt as well.... And this is happening in the educational systems, the court systems, major corporations, and most importantly, our "wealth care" systems.. (Health care).

    I cringe when I think about just how many humans are staying in corrupt places, for fear of losing their income or credibility... Or doing things that protect them, for fear of facing reprisals... Doing things they feel are not morally correct, such as keeping life saving medications, out of the hands of patients that truly need them... Just because the "Protocols" placed before them... "From higher up" suggest.....

    Or worse, silencing one voice such as this one, KNOWING that it would also affect them, should they ever choose to speak about their own beliefs... How can they live with themselves, and follow through with such things after realizing this, do they even realize it?

    I am sure it is being presented "Politically correctly", meaning those at the top are suggesting "Surely we are not trying to silence him, just his connection to our fundamental beliefs, his political thoughts are his own, and he cannot be the voice for our institution".. But really that's just babble to get those who have no backbone, to approve such actions... Any smart individual is capable of recognizing that he is NOT speaking for the institution that gave him a degree, but as his own personal opinions... Someone wants to "shut him up" and is using this way to attempt to do so.

    The question then becomes... Should he fight for that corrupt certificate? Or spend his energy trying to continue to wake the public to what is going on around them?

    If he isn't "practicing", I feel he should let go of the credentials, they're just ridiculous paper... And he should continue what he is doing, which is reaching the public, and expressing things they may not be able to see for themselves. Without someone "ringing the alarm."

    But on the other side of the coin, there is also the potential to win the case, and show others that there is till hope to keep big business, big government, and corrupt people "In check". Right now he does have a platform and people are listening, so using his energy and time continuing to get the word out, versus wasting it fighting the corruption as one individual, seems useless. Perhaps when MANY can stand up with him, after they themselves wake up, the end result would be far more effective. But it is not my choice to make.

    It reminds me of something I once heard/learned when I was younger, and selling skincare products. Much smaller on the scale of manipulation, but the "Grooming process" none the less... And I felt dirty knowing that the company was doing this to their employees... and the public at large, as we also had a pharmacy on site, and that meant they were treating the pharmacists and ancillaries the same way as well... Teaching them what worked, and allowing patients to walk away with things that didn't work, for fear of liability on behalf of the company...

    I was considered a "Beauty Consultant"... I was given a massive amount of education on products we sold to do this, as far as what those products truly could or could not do... Of course, the trainers also told us "Off label" uses as "Hacks", just for our personal knowledge, as "Friendly tips". But because we were not going to be licensed, and practicing Cosmotologists, we were warned never to tell the public about things that were "Off label" usage... For example, a gal could come in complaining of puffiness around the eyes in the morning, and we were only allowed to read labels and tell them which product would puff up the skin, temporarily, around the eyes, to blend in that puffiness.... All the while we KNEW that Preperation H instantly removed swelling...

    Because it "Wasn't printed on the label" to be used around the "eyes", we were told NEVER to recommend it, as the business could be sued if they got some in the actual eye... So in essence, we were told we could be sued if we told them what "ACTUALLY WORKED"... And not sued, if we merely mimicked the claims of the manufacturers, by way of parroting what their labels claimed...

    I know it sounds silly, but it woke me up a bit, as this was my introduction into the game of "Shift the blame to save the corporation"... Hide the truth, because we could be liable... Something the medical industry does to the point where people literally DIE as a result...

    It has to change... Perhaps it is a good thing they singled out Jordan, as he does have a backbone, and DOES use his voice...

    Just my opinions... Good luck to Jordan and his family in this battle...
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    Default Re: Dr. Jordan Peterson Reacts to Court Decision to Take Away His Freedom of Speech

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    My current timeline for things returning to some semblance of normalcy and sanity is four years. That fits with Jordan's estimate for his lawfare challenge to be resolved.

    I don't believe we will ever return to the 'way things were', or even that in 4 years peace will dawn upon a new era of truth and reconciliation. No, I believe though, that in four years we will walk back a lot of the narratives that have dominated the planet these last ten to thirteen years to a place from where the truth will be evident and a new way forward will be advocated for by the masses.

    What that will look like I don't know.

    I'm sure that the new realities of our present situation will force a great deal of social justice and reparations to the fore. But not based on race, based on the corrupt system that has fleeced us all. Systems will need to be dismantled and reimagined to foster true equity and equal opportunity. So much will need to be rethought and rebuilt from the ground on up.

    But not in four years. In four years free speech might be restored to a large degree and there will be far less censorship on social media. Even the news might return to its fair reporting and in depth investigations unfettered by political affiliation. These things take time, but they all spring from one central irrefutable point: without free speech there is no justice.

    I hope Jordan Peterson follows through on his plan. It could turn out to be the watershed moment we, at least I, have been waiting a long time for.

    Thanks for your thoughts. Although I think your heart's in the right place, there are some words/terminology you use I'd watch out for. For example, "social justice" and "reparations" are synonymous with the totalitarian Marxist religion trying to take over. It's "social justice" that's carried us so far down the road to hell. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." And, the idea of "reparations" (the victim class) needs to die with "social justice". We all need to move forward as equals. "Equity" is another nasty, dirty globalist term for ushering in their global domination. That term needs to die a swift death.

    Of course, the criminals need to face fair justice under the law. I think we can all agree on that.

    We don't need to "re-imagine" anything moving forward. It's the globalist's "re-imagining" that's turned the world into a hellhole. Any group or movement that decides what's best for everyone else ("social justice", socialism) will take us back down the road to hell faster than you can blink.

    The original systems that, for example, made America great to begin with, are still there. They've been shelved, but they're still there. We want what we had going back a few decades. It's not about dismantling and rebuilding from the ground up like the globalists want. We want to tear off the globalist's facade that they've propped up over our existing structures. Once, we do that, we'll be in the clear.

    This is about individual rights and freedom. Sovereignty, bodily autonomy. Keep it as simple as possible with the least amount of government and we'll do great. Again. That time may come faster than you think.
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    Default Re: Dr. Jordan Peterson Reacts to Court Decision to Take Away His Freedom of Speech

    Thanks for the lesson.

    Surprised you think I need it.

    The talking points I used were the talking points of the progressive left before it was appropriated by the globalists and their Marxist followers.

    It was the fundamental tenet of liberalism, to seek equity, equality and fair play. This was during the heydays of the success of the middle class. When things were pretty good for everyone. We still called for these things. We already understood the corruption inherent in the system. And we could predict where it was going even then.

    And now here we are.

    My point was to highlight the fact that the extreme left has appropriated the language of the progressive left, those that advocated for change against the powers that seek to control every aspect of our lives.

    I have always been a Liberal.
    It is only during this clown show of the last few years that I have been forced to the right by the enemies I/we have always warned about.

    When the occupy movement petered out, it was obvious the radicals were on the march, together with their unholy alliance with mega-billionaires and UN globalists.

    To go back to the way it was is to set up for another round of extremism in the future.
    No, we need to dismantle the entire system and root out the evil and the collusion and the greed.

    Only then can we move forward in peace.
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    Thanks for the lesson.

    Surprised you think I need it.

    The talking points I used were the talking points of the progressive left before it was appropriated by the globalists and their Marxist followers.

    It was the fundamental tenet of liberalism, to seek equity, equality and fair play. This was during the heydays of the success of the middle class. When things were pretty good for everyone. We still called for these things. We already understood the corruption inherent in the system. And we could predict where it was going even then.

    And now here we are.

    My point was to highlight the fact that the extreme left has appropriated the language of the progressive left, those that advocated for change against the powers that seek to control every aspect of our lives.

    I have always been a Liberal.
    It is only during this clown show of the last few years that I have been forced to the right by the enemies I/we have always warned about.

    When the occupy movement petered out, it was obvious the radicals were on the march, together with their unholy alliance with mega-billionaires and UN globalists.

    To go back to the way it was is to set up for another round of extremism in the future.
    No, we need to dismantle the entire system and root out the evil and the collusion and the greed.

    Only then can we move forward in peace.

    My comment isn't so much a lesson for you but to provide information to anyone else reading this. You're welcome to disregard everything I say.

    Do you really believe those words and phrases weren't already seeping into our society and culture -- planned in advance decades ago -- by the globalists? WW2 never really ended, we're still at it. The globalists are masters at mind manipulation, psyops.

    Words (and symbols) are powerful. Language is powerful. The globalists know it. And, it's not just language they've undermined over decades (I already started to notice odd, manipulative word-changes used by government back in the 80s probably because I lived in a government ministry town [Ministry of Health, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Transportation and Highways etc.). These globalists are very patient and persistent. Look how they recently steered the gay community into the LGBTQ nonsense in order to weaponize that against the world? Everyone's been targeted and terrorized by that manufactured movement.

    Like it or not, however those words and phrases originated, they're now synonymous with Marxism and the globalist's agenda to dominate the world. Using those words continues to help them. These weaponized words and phrases have been aggressively used against us -- instilled into people's heads -- to cause cognitive dissonance and always will.

    Even a good symbol like the Swastika is not considered a good symbol anymore because of how it was appropriated by the Nazis back in the day. Similarly, I think people have had their fill of rainbow flags. The rainbow is going to be a hard one to pull back because it is now synonymous with pedophiles. The globalists sure know how to brand something and market it to whomever their target audience happens to be...

    I agree we need to root out the evil, but we do not have to dismantle the foundations, traditions, laws and order upon what free countries were originally built upon.
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    Only then can we move forward in peace.

    Are you suggesting that peace is the answer? And, what is your vision for peace? Everyone has their own idea what peace is. That's why we have wars.

    The globalist's idea of peace (for themselves) is everyone else living in 15 minute cities, owning nothing, and eating bug burgers.

    Personally, I like a world that is kept on its toes, always in a state of alert and with healthy suspicion for potential national enemies both foreign and domestic (direct and subversive). It's vital to have a domestic population that's always informed and knows what's going on and that can only happen with freedom of speech.

    It's wise for all nations to keep a defensive posture ALWAYS. That's how we AVOID WARS. It's about RESPECT and showing STRENGTH -- each nation putting themselves FIRST. One can never trust. As we can clearly see, especially with our own country, it is when we become peaceful that we become complacent and ripe for domination by those who seek power and control.
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    Professor Peterson keeps trying to heal academia. He's the kind of voice that would heal the abuse of terms talked about in this thread. Add in he always talks about God and holds his own at intellectual debates at all levels. What a nightmare, no wonder he's under constant assault. He has my respect but he grates against me - when he talks about God I don't feel the spirit, like he's a rules-based person. However, I'm not the Pope and I don't know everything. But there's enough there for me to want to back him up. It's like a war of attrition between Peterson's sanity vs official Canada's insanity.

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    I'm almost at a loss for words. Peterson is paid by Shapiro. Why are we, as an enlightened collective, not seeing this for the pantomime it is?
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    Interesting debate friends. Akasha, can you expand on your knowledge of Peterson? Do you mean Ben Shapiro? And the ramifications?

    There doesnt seem to be a single soul I like or admire that at some point soon is not called out for being on the take from somebody.

    I heard Jesus was in collusion with the fishing industry.

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    Interesting debate friends. Akasha, can you expand on your knowledge of Peterson? Do you mean Ben Shapiro? And the ramifications?

    There doesnt seem to be a single soul I like or admire that at some point soon is not called out for being on the take from somebody.

    I heard Jesus was in collusion with the fishing industry.
    Hey Doug, no, yes and I'm sure you can figure the ramifications out for yourself. I simply made a personal observation. I have no interest in debating this subject. If you and others can't see this for what it is, I really don't know what to say.
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    The radical left mob of cultists, marxists, globalists and fascists will not dictate to me what words or phrases I did, do, or will use.
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    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    If you and others can't see this for what it is, I really don't know what to say.
    You could try some data and reasoned argument, convince us! Because the quoted text I isolated above is a rather poor attempt at enlightening anyone.

    You might as well have said "If you don't see the world the way I see it you are an idiot!" - which you kind of did....

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Interesting debate friends. Akasha, can you expand on your knowledge of Peterson? Do you mean Ben Shapiro? And the ramifications?

    There doesnt seem to be a single soul I like or admire that at some point soon is not called out for being on the take from somebody.

    I heard Jesus was in collusion with the fishing industry.

    That's a good one, pd!






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    Hey Doug, no, yes and I'm sure you can figure the ramifications out for yourself. I simply made a personal observation. I have no interest in debating this subject. If you and others can't see this for what it is, I really don't know what to say.

    Thanks for making it abundantly clear that we may completely disregard your posts.
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    .....Thanks for making it abundantly clear that we may completely disregard your posts.....
    Ah, the royal "We". God forbid "We" should become subject to group-think. Appreciate the input, Pris.
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    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    If you and others can't see this for what it is, I really don't know what to say.
    You could try some data and reasoned argument, convince us! Because the quoted text I isolated above is a rather poor attempt at enlightening anyone.

    You might as well have said "If you don't see the world the way I see it you are an idiot!" - which you kind of did....
    I appreciate your attempts to read between the lines, Ewan, however, to be clear, I didnít call anyone an idiot nor was I insinuating such. Rather i was trying to highlight how we can become fooled by those attempting to maintain their grip over us.

    For those who are struggling to grasp the essence of my comment, Iíll try to break it down.

    Peterson is a zionist gatekeeper and a judas goat for the Christians who are a crucial aspect of the zionist plan, rather like Jones, Avi Yemeni, Prager or Ezra Levant. They claim to be of the people, but in fact are manipulating freedom-loving folk into becoming sympathetic to the terrorist state of Israel through the back door as it were.

    The legislation put in place is not to silence Peterson per sť, who literally works for a (Rothschild) zionist, but rather those who would criticise the narradigm.

    But hey, itís just my opinion.

    I hope that clears things up.
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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    This is not just an issue in Canada, or any other country, it is happening everywhere. And the worst part about it, is it has a trickle affect, and people who are , "Not wanting to rock the boat" are supporting it, (Whether willingly or not) without even realizing that eventually it will come back and bit them in the butt as well.... And this is happening in the educational systems, the court systems, major corporations, and most importantly, our "wealth care" systems.. (Health care).
    The Salem Witch Trials on steroids!

    What we're seeing is something like these witch trials but on a global level. People are not being burned at the stake or hanged, yet, but public ordered murders/executions are actually the next step to be taken and not that far off in my opinion. Many have been driven to suicide and some have been murdered due to their beliefs so far, it is getting worse.

    Quote The Salem witch trials were a series of hearings and prosecutions of people accused of witchcraft in colonial Massachusetts between February 1692 and May 1693. More than 200 people were accused. Thirty people were found guilty, 19 of whom were executed by hanging (14 women and five men). One other man, Giles Corey, died under torture after refusing to enter a plea, and at least five people died in jail.[1]

    Arrests were made in numerous towns beyond Salem and Salem Village (known today as Danvers), notably Andover and Topsfield. The grand juries and trials for this capital crime were conducted by a Court of Oyer and Terminer in 1692 and by a Superior Court of Judicature in 1693, both held in Salem Town, where the hangings also took place. It was the deadliest witch hunt in the history of colonial North America. Only fourteen other women and two men had been executed in Massachusetts and Connecticut during the 17th century. (From Wikipedia)
    Mr. Peterson needs to watch his back for sure!

    Once someone well known like Peterson or even Trump is snuffed out and no one goes to jail for it the mindless zombies will think their free to kill all those that don't agree with them or that they think are offensive and that is when the real chaos will begin.
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    To this contribution of you, Matthew:

    ďProfessor Peterson keeps trying to heal academia. He's the kind of voice that would heal the abuse of terms talked about in this thread. Add in he always talks about God and holds his own at intellectual debates at all levels. What a nightmare, no wonder he's under constant assault. He has my respect but he grates against me - when he talks about God I don't feel the spirit, like he's a rules-based person. However, I'm not the Pope and I don't know everything. But there's enough there for me to want to back him up. It's like a war of attrition between Peterson's sanity vs official Canada's insanity.

    Amen, on all points.

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    .....Thanks for making it abundantly clear that we may completely disregard your posts.....
    Ah, the royal "We". God forbid "We" should become subject to group-think. Appreciate the input, Pris.

    You've already raised the eyebrows on a few of us. I'm not out of line here as your comments have been intentionally condescending to the members here. The word is "may". I said we may ignore you, not must.

    "Groupthink"... interesting word choice. I would imagine that Dr. Jordan Peterson would have a great deal to say about that subject considering how the corrupted system is going after him for having the audacity to call out the globalist's BS narrative.

    The subject of this thread -- especially with regard to what's going on in Canada right now -- is the antithesis to "groupthink". Dr. Jordan Peterson is a fighter and he won't be intimidated into silence by some group of people that consider themselves to be the "authority" over what others are permitted to say. They are threatening to take his license away if he doesn't comply to taking a "groupthink" re-education program and acknowledge the "error of his ways". The degree required to redeem himself is left up to others to arbitrarily decide. They're literally making up this nonsense as they go along. Meantime, what appears to be a corrupt court decision on the matter has put the wheels into motion.

    Did you even watch the interview?

    Whatever you may think of him, Dr. Jordan Peterson is highly respected and listened to by many Canadians regardless of their political leanings. He is a high profile Canadian who apparently has "unacceptable views" and has therefore joined the ranks of the so-called "small fringe minority". That makes him a danger to the globalists because he has the ability to wake up lot of Canadians. This is why they have to make an example of him by attempting to knock the wind out of him... to which Jordan responds, "Bring it on!"

    This interview reaction from Dr. Jordan Peterson to a court decision to take away his freedom of speech will wake up more sleepy-headed Canadians than ever before. Waking people up out of their psyop-induced coma is a hugely positive step forward in our fight against the globalists, not just for Canadians, but for all freedom-loving people around the world.
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