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    Default LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

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    TRANSLATED SUBTITLES WILL BE ADDED SOON - Jimmy Church of Fade to Black Radio joins me again for LIVE coverage, and post-discussion of the Mexican Chamber of Deputies landmark Public Hearing on UFOs. The ‘Morenista’ representative Sergio Gutiéerez Luna stated, “Mexico is now joining the global movement of nations that are embracing an extraordinary new reality with the potential to shape our children’s future,”.

    00:00 - Pre-Commentary
    01:05:01 - Diputado Sergio Carlos Luna Speaks
    01:09:51 - Swearing under Oath
    01:10:47 - Jaime Maussan, Mexican Ufologist
    01:21:14 - Dr. Avi Loeb, Harvard Professor
    01:36:26 - Mariano Tello, Director of the Center for Attention to Society, INAI
    01:44:26 - Ryan Graves, US Navy Pilot
    01:55:33 - Robert Salas, Retired US Air Force Officer
    02:20:33 - Julio Darwish, Mexican Pilot
    02:29:27 - Enrique Kolbeck, Air Traffic Controller in Mexico
    02:41:25 - Andrea Simondini, Director of ALAS, Argentinian UFO Center
    02:49:55 - Yoshiharu Asakawa, House of Representatives of Japan
    03:07:53 - Rony Vernet, Brazilian Ufologist
    03:21:27 - Michael Vaillant, Consultant at French Space Center and Works at GEIPAN
    03:32:45 - THE ALIEN BODIES SHOWN
    03:56:13 - Dr. José Zalce, Mexican Naval Surgeon
    04:08:30 - Ricardo Rangel, Mexican Biologist
    04:18:33 - Ending Comments at Hearing
    04:20:20 - Post Commentary
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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    The most interesting point , the Nazca mummies have been presented with complete identification on several UFO congresses worldwide in presence of top notch researchers and scientists.

    In today’s world of spectral analysis where any material even a particle of can be reduced down to molecules and gene codes complete forensic and scientific analysis is inevitable once presented to global academic auditorium.

    Even while photocopies of about anything are possible to create by current human technologies they are also not so difficult to identify as opposed to biological signatures and structure no matter how complicated it appears.

    So one way or another I’m surprised that this extraordinary physical bodies evidence as found elsewhere in South America and other continents ( example: the Dropa people and discs found in Gobi desert in Northern China ) is not considered by global scientific community in need of immediate forensic analysis that can be run by several molecular and biological institutes to the fullest detail .


    Most interesting news, thanks John.


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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    If this is not a hoax, well, you tell me.

    Quote ‘Non-human’ beings are Peruvian mummies

    The skeletal remains shown at the UAP hearing in Mexico reportedly belong to the mummies found in the town of Nazca in Peru. A team of Russian researchers alleged their DNA was “different”.

    Six mummies reportedly found in 2017 resembled humans with regard to physical features such as two arms, a pair of eyes, and a head. But, the mummies were three-fingered with their necks elongated at the back.

    The mummies date back to the 5th Century if the findings are to be true and a Russian scientist also claimed that they belonged to “a certain race which had possibly reached a stage of advancement much earlier than we did. Maybe thousands of years earlier.”

    He suggested they could have been from “extraterrestrial background”, but the World Congress on Mummy Studies refuted the scientists’ claims as a “fraud”

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    It all became a little more interesting for the time being. I truly hope Jamie Massaun or La Marzully are not involved in this (the actual find), if so, well...
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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    No to me it does not make sense Today’s world is extravagantly intertwined.

    Even the shaman in the last Andean village has PhD in psychology and management and understands better than the rest of most of us that any strange object found will be chemically and genetically analysed.

    The people who have “created these mummies” may be long gone now but some parts of those mummies are different from human.

    Even if some parts the work could be some historical attempt of advanced reconstruction carried by survivors burying their dead, for example

    they do not make sense as “modern hoax”.

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    Lightbulb Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023


    On The Scene: The remains of alleged "non-human" beings were presented on Tuesday (September 12) at Mexico’s first public congressional hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs), also known as UFOs. The two stuffed bodies recovered 2017 in Peru were 700 and 1,800 years old, with only three fingers on each hand and elongated heads. The hearing aimed to rule on the phenomenon in the Aerial Space Protection Law, which would turn Mexico into the first country in the world to acknowledge the presence of aliens on the planet, local media reported.
    • Alien Mummies in Mexico | Scientists Unveil 1000-Year-Old Corpses | Alien Mexico Congress:

    Alien Mummies Mexico | Mexico Congress hosted a rather unusual event in the capital city. Officials displayed two corpses that are believed to be at least 1,000 years old. They claim the corpses belong to the non-human alien species. Authorities unveiled the mummified specimens in windowed boxes for the public to see. Ufologist Jamie Maussan led the event in Mexico. He had been investigating the extraterrestrial phenomenon for decades. Maussan said the specimens were allegedly recovered from Cusco, Peru. Watch the video here

    ‘Alien Corpses’ shown to Congress as UFO expert forced to testify under oath
    Mexico's Congress displays ‘Alien’ corpses believed to be 1,000 years old, live-streams hearing:




    On Tuesday (Sept 13, 2023), two corpses believed to be of “non-human” alien species were displayed in the Congress for public. It is said that these corpses are at least 1,000 years old.)

    The Mexico Congress hosted an unusual event that could potentially be described as a watershed moment in the history of human civilisation and further propel interest in aliens and UFOs.

    Close on the heels of US Congress holding a public hearing on the possibilities of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), now named Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, the Mexican legislature, too, for the first time held a similar event.

    On Tuesday (Sept 13), two corpses believed to be of “non-human” alien species were displayed in the Congress for the public. It is said that these corpses are at least 1,000 years old.

    The event was led by Mexican journalist and ufologist Jaime Maussan, who has been investigating the extraterrestrial phenomenon for decades, and co-hosted by Mexican scientists.

    Among the attendees was Ryan Graves, a former US Navy pilot and Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace who claimed to have encountered such sightings during his flights.

    These mummified specimens were kept in windowed boxes for all to see. They were allegedly retrieved from Cusco, Peru.

    Maussan, who was under oath, addressed members of the Mexican government and US officials briefing them about his findings.

    * source

    ps. I personally met Jaime Maussan face to face (in real life) 23 years ago at the: UFO Congres Amsterdam 2000 Netherlands 🇳🇱 and filmed his lecture with permission.

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    Lightbulb Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023







    • Please be aware "Speech to Text Software" is used for above video, then translated from (Mexican) Spanish to English (it may have some mistakes!):
    "Here today we are going to present two beings that were recovered in Peru in a diatom mine. They are desiccated bodies found between the cities of Palpa and Nazca in 2017 that have been deeply investigated by both investigative journalists and scientists who here today are going to ngive To know some of its extraordinary conclusions, I would like to first call the researcher Joyce Mantilla, who has investigated this topic from the beginning. They have already been discovered.

    We are going to discover at this moment those bodies that, according to the scientists who are going to declare it here, are non-human beings. That they are not part of our terrestrial evolution and that after disappearing there is no subsequent evolution according to the National Autonomous University of Mexico who carried out the carbon 14 analyzes these beings are around a thousand years old, that is, they are not beings that were recovered in birds that are crashes but are beings that were buried in diatom mines diatomaceous earth the diatom is a fossilized algae with 17 million ancient phytoplankton that was abundant at that time and when it disappeared it fossilized and the diatom has extraordinary characteristics of drying the bodies does not allow the growth of bacteria or fungi, therefore it allowed these bodies to be preserved for a thousand years of drying.

    These are not mummies, they are bodies that are complete and intact that have not been manipulated inside and that have a series of elements that make them truly extraordinary please Josh Mantilla if you want to stop by here please go ahead well as I said these bodies were unearthed and at least 20 of their corpses were found informally almost intact near the enigmatic Nazca lines alone a parenthesis, I have not been a ufologist since the 1990s. I trained in the ranks of television journalism, covering political events.

    I have been a parliamentary reporter, aeronautical correspondent and war zone correspondent. Sorry in principle. I invite you not to completely trust what I say. Let's go to the facts and the evidence is what matters

    What is important is what we can demonstrate my journalistic investigation number five my journalistic investigation is based on academic and scientific studies carried out in several countries and with the support of some of the most prestigious laboratories of the world, biologist analysis has been carried out forensic and criminal experts geneticists biophysicists radiologist micro-surgeons that's it metallurgical engineers you will say why metallurgical engineers according to the bodies now you will know it is an extraordinary discovery because they are dried bodies that belong to two species unknown to science and I sign it with how emphatic a DNA test can be and the analysis that can be done now with the science that we have developed is inevitable sooner or later.

    We will have to do here the opportunity to make an amendment to the law for the protection of Mexican airspace to recognize the unidentified anomalous phenomenon, our universe consists of trillions of galaxies, according to the latest astronomical calculations, each galaxy has an average of 100 a billion stars, each star has an average of at least one planet, therefore It has been considered that our universe could be made up of, listen to you, one hundred and six trillion planets, a number that is difficult to understand.

    However, the possibilities of even intelligent life existing are indisputable.

    However, it is difficult for science to accept that intelligent life can move from one place to another world to another because the distances are very great, at least they are for us.

    We do not know if other intelligences have managed to find other paths. If they have done so, it has opened up for humanity the opportunity to find those paths to reach other worlds in the future.

    The future for our children could be extraordinary if we have the courage to accept that we are being visited by non-human intelligences that come to Earth from the depths of the universe the winds of change are blowing humanity is facing a watershed in history recognizing that other intelligences exist non-humans in our world, integrate ourselves into the concert of the intelligent universe or continue in a dangerous isolation that could lead us towards a true crisis of our civilization.

    The decision is in our hands.

    Exploration and discovery have always driven the Progress and evolution of humanity. Now with the possibility of interacting and learning from other forms of life we ​​can expand our scope, expand our knowledge and find solutions to the challenges that humanity faces. We are not alone in this vast universe, and by embracing this reality we can move towards a destiny that will take us to the depths.

    DISCLAIMER: Please be aware "Speech to Text Software" is used for above video, then translated from (Mexican) Spanish to English (it may have some mistakes!).
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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    Btw: The Nazca Lines in Peru are estimated to have been created between 500 BC and 500 AD. Therefore, they are approximately 1,500 to 2,500 years old.

    Nazca Lines



    There may be a portal in the area like the old "Bigelow Ranches".
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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    Not sure this has been on mainstream… 🤷‍♂️ It should.



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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    Full coverage here … I think we need a translator.



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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    This is exciting. They are very small in size compared to modern human but in fact,
    much of the old world human populace found in scattered tribes over the world on isolated islands, jungles of Africa, South America and Asia were small people ( I’m referring to recent “modern” history rather than million years old remains of Homo Florinensis who were of similar stature).

    Some statements the presenters have made may not be 100% fitting such as “they are not part of human evolution” ( tree , I suggest to add for better clarity sake).

    If we share even 70% of DNA with them it’s still a LOT from exobiological perspective and they would certainly qualify as “close cousins”.

    Considering their size is not “giant” the perspective of time and distance they could have covered before coming here too could fit into average human mindset.

    More likely the nearest habitable planets around Proxima Centauri ( or comparable space distance) would qualify as candidate for their origin.

    I wonder if any other items were found along with these bodies, or inscriptions that would preserve their “message”.

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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    Ryan Graves posted under @uncertainvector the following statement:

    Graves “ After the US Congressional UFO Hearings, I accepted an invitation to testify before the Mexican Congress hoping to keep up the momentum in government interest in pilot experiences with UAP. Unfortunately, yesterdays demonstration was a huge step backwards for this issue. My testimony centered on sharing my experience and the UAP reports I hear from commercially and military aircrew through ASA witness program. I will continue to raise awareness of UAP as an urgent matter of aerospace safety, national security, and science, but I am deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiated stunt.”

    Ryan calls this an “unsubstantiated stunt“. It may very well be a stunt, but it’s not unsubstantiated. I just translated the Spanish to make sure. It does not seem to be unsubstantiated at all. Lots of university research results, very precise details about DNA composition, let alone the age determined by C14 and many more things. Either those respected scientists lied under oath before Mexican Congress or there is something to it.

    An important point.

    It’s not clear why Graves, if he indeed issued the response, would jump to such a conclusion.
    It would suggest that there are efforts in the US to render Official Disclosure a stillborn orphan.

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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Ryan Graves posted under @uncertainvector the following statement:

    ... I will continue to raise awareness of UAP as an urgent matter of aerospace safety, national security, and science, but I am deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiated stunt.”
    He will remain a government puppet, unfortunately.
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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    Maussan has tried this before, he failed when the scientist found out the bones were made of matchsticks. Maussan was able to fool Dna testing on that occasion. I feel the same is going on here, wishful thinking does not make this a true story, besides, if this will be uncovered as a hoax, it will basically hurt true disclosure, when the public globally is informed on this being one, all the good work which has been done by serious People is immediately a joke. How do some here call this type of play again>? Psyop perhaps?

    See vid below, I had a bad feeling from the start. Again, it could all be true too, but I highly doubt it.

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    Default Re: LIVE Mexico UFO Hearing Coverage and Discussion | Sept. 12, 2023

    Hmmm. Peru. Cylindrical objects in stomach discovered in X-Rays - sounds like an episode of Airport Alert when
    they find hidden Coke.

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    I got contact today from a colleague of mine Andrea Perez Simondini about her experience at the Mexican Hearings

    ICER National representative for Argentine and ICER Continental Deputy for South America Andrea Perez Simondini was one of the speakers at the Mexican Hearings. In addition Giorgio Piacenza ICER National representative for Peru was in attendance.

    Andrea said that what happened in the Mexican Chamber of Deputies was an important and historic moment.

    The presentations of the pilots and air traffic controllers, as well as the Japanese congressman (who was approached by Giorgio Piacenza) and the association that represents Mexican pilots, generated a lot of anticipation.

    In political terms, the Mexican Hearing was important and representative, including deputies from all parties. A project was even produced to amend the law that regulates air traffic, to include reports of observations by pilots.

    After the hearing, Andrea had a meeting with the Mexican pilots association, having managed to talk about ICER and ALAS, and the
    possibility of holding a meeting with ICER's EXCO was left open.

    There was also the possibility of exchanging contacts between all those involved. Giorgio conducted a good interview with the Japanese
    congressman, where he made it clear that the Japanese government has some reservations regarding some individuals linked to the UFO topic.

    ICER Argentine deputy Marcela Antona will be in touch with Mexican federal deputy Luna, who organized the Hearing, as well as with the Japanese congressman, and she also showed willingness to meet with ICER.

    Regarding the mummies, no one knew they were going to be presented, and there was some discomfort with the entire situation.

    Andrea agreed with Robert Salas, and with the pilots' association, that in the statements they would separate the issue of mummies and seek to emphasize the importance of the institutional initiative of the Mexican Chamber of deputies, having felt that it was possible to minimize the damage.

    Ryan Graves ended up leaving suddenly, citing a family problem as justification, but, however, when he arrived in the USA he made a tweet
    denouncing his displeasure with the event. See post 12.

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    Of the so-called ancient alien bodies story...

    To me it looks, sounds, and feels, shady. All of it. The story, the science, and the bodies themselves.

    This has all the little red flags (herrings) of a staged event, one designed, I feel, to deflect from real Ufology, and the real story, toward a fake soft disclosure push, steered as ever by Secrecy Industrial Complex Inc.

    If/when, and I strongly suspect when, this is proven to be "an elaborate hoax" (as I feel it's intended to be by design), it will serve, again by design, as yet another kick in the crotch to genuine disclosure efforts.



    My feelings/my interpretation only:

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