Russell Brand - Trial By Media?

[scotslad]

are the big media companies who turned Russell Brand into a TV & Film celebrity now turning against him in a "co-ordinated attack"...?

(The same companies he helped make £££millions for, now turning on him)

1. Prior to the airing of an investigative documentary on C4 on saturday night, Ruseell uploaded his own video saying it appears he being set up and denies all allegations...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZGr_PVUHn2I

2. Channel 4 commissioned the "investigation documentary" into the claims made by 2 anonomous darkened out victims played by actors reading scripts. Yet they said they had received no complaints and there were no reports, memos or internal investigattions at all (at the time).

3 all the news channels have gone doo lallie about the claims and allegations insuating he's guilty without charge or a police investigation. (guilty by media trial)

3. Channel 4 are now apparently carrying out a full investigation into the claims regarding his behaviour betwwen 2006 and 2013 when he was employed by them.
(One would have thought they would have done that and

4. Now some keyboard warriors have picked up on a few interesting points questionning whether evidence in the documentary was faked...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=akcMCEhqB4w

5. Even more questions coming out in favour of Mr. Brand as people quesiton the actions of Channel 4...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5GtFZbUgLUA

Like him, love him or loathe him, Has he cleaned up his act, found (and sharing) his own "truth" as he shares all through his youtube channel?

Make your own mind up, but one thing's for sure, I dont think this is over. Do you?

[Open Minded Dude]

The same happened recently to Till Lindemann (singer of Rammstein) in my country.

I assume it will be the same outcome for Brand as it was for them: police or prosecutors stopped investigations due to lack of evidence. The ones who blamed him (strangely all of the women were internet 'influencers') are now being sued for libel by Rammstein.

The media also did this campaign, especially the famous German MSM news mag Spiegel constantly attacked him with these allegations and a lot of exaggerated stories as it now seems.

Investigative (German but Russia-based) Journalist T. Roeper also suspects they did this because Lindemann and the entire band Rammstein have strong ties to the declared 'enemy' - Russia, Lindemann even did music videos in Russian with Russian actors and they also made a song about Moscow, one of their managers is Russian, they have also friends and private relationships there (but ties to Ukraine, too).

(Translated):

https://www-anti--spiegel-ru.transla..._x_tr_pto=wapp

New “Spiegel Affair”
Public prosecutor stops investigations against Rammstein singer
Since the beginning of June, Der Spiegel has carried out an unprecedented smear campaign against the singer of the band Rammstein. The public prosecutor's office has now stopped the investigation. Will Spiegel have to answer for the damage caused?

August 30, 2023 3:58 p.m

On June 2nd, Der Spiegel published an article with the headline “ Row Zero” at Rammstein concerts – women accuse Till Lindemann of abuse of power and sexual assault ,” in which he accused Till Lindemann, the singer of the band Rammstein, of targeting young females Drugging and literally raping fans. The pretext for the smear campaign was posts from unknown influencers who tearfully recounted the alleged incidents.

In the three months that followed, Spiegel published a whopping 80 articles in which it continued its smear campaign against the band Rammstein. And that had consequences: There were protests at Rammstein concerts, calls for boycotts, the band's office was attacked by rioters, advertising contracts were canceled and so on.

I haven't reported on it in all these months, even though my fingers have been itching. The reason is that I didn't understand what was the reason for the Spiegel editorial team to launch this incredible smear and smear campaign against Rammstein, during which it was even repeatedly read in Spiegel that the band was anti-Semitic, which is what happened in Germany is known to be one of the worst accusations ever.

Was the reason that the band completely ignores the politically correct and “woken” zeitgeist and doesn’t care about the politically correct ideals and “Western values” propagated by politics and the media? Or was the reason Rammstein's popularity in Russia, where the band - at least before 2022 - has staged a major tour every year, filling huge football stadiums in many Russian cities? I don't know it.
Public prosecutor's office stops investigation

The fact is that there was no truth to Spiegel's allegations. Der Spiegel also reported on the public prosecutor's discontinuation of the investigation, but in very cautious terms. Der Spiegel lists the allegations again in its article and writes each time that there is “no evidence” for this, which sounds as if there is evidence that Lindemann committed these acts, but (unfortunately) it cannot be proven.

It sounds different with other media. rbb24, for example, writes that there is "no sufficient suspicion" and that there is "no evidence" that Lindemann became sexually active against the young women's will or even gave them drugs to make them weak and then abuse them . Der Spiegel repeatedly claimed all of this for almost three months.

And now – according to the public prosecutor’s office – there is not only no “sufficient suspicion” but not even “indications”. It sounded different in the mirror.
The smear campaign against Rammstein

The fact that this was a campaign against Rammstein - controlled by whoever and for whatever reason - is obvious from the fact that all the alleged witnesses and victims who cried so tearfully on social networks and told their shocking stories in Spiegel didn't even report to the public prosecutor's office. rbb24 writes:

“Women who may have been affected have not yet contacted the public prosecutor. If the public prosecutor's office becomes aware of the suspicion of a crime, it must investigate. Media reports can also be the trigger for this. The investigations against Lindemann primarily relied on press reports and anonymous tips.”

In plain language this means: The horror story circulated by Spiegel at the time was the reason for the public prosecutor's investigation. But not a single witness or victim has come forward to the public prosecutor's office, even though they reported in detail to Spiegel about everything Lindemann allegedly did to them.

No wonder: It's legal to make up stories and lie in the media, but knowingly filing a false report with the public prosecutor's office is a criminal offense.

The influencer who started the story also apparently made it up, as rbb24 writes:

“In addition, the YouTuber Kyla Shyx was also interviewed, who reported on her channel about her observations during a Rammstein concert. According to the public prosecutor's office, their descriptions were too vague and Shyx was not able to describe "his own experience of criminally relevant incidents."

She was unable to describe to the public prosecutor everything that she allegedly experienced and what she talked about in so much detail on social media and in Spiegel. In other words: She did not repeat her statements to the public prosecutor because then she would have made a false statement.
Compensation?

In Germany, defamation and slander are punishable by law. Personally, I sincerely hope that Rammstein will now take legal action against all those who launched this smear and smear campaign and kept it alive for three months. After all, the band - and Lindemann personally - suffered concrete damage if we remember canceled advertising contracts, the attack on the band's office and the calls for a boycott against Rammstein concerts.

Someone has to put an end to the Western media's habit of discrediting people with made-up stories. Maybe Rammstein has the courage to at least try that, even if that would certainly trigger another smear campaign from Spiegel & Co.

[Matthew]

The accusations smell funny and the reporting of it too big. What other news is concealed behind this oh so newsworthy event?

[Denise/Dizi]

It would help to post something about the actual claims being leveled against him as well... As there are many of them! And they span a long time frame..

https://news.sky.com/story/what-are-...brand-12963256

I won't post my own opinions of Russell Brand, as they are not very complimentary. I can only say this, I personally think he carries an undeserved air of "Self importance" that appears in his videos, and as such, one could only assume that he is the same way "off camera", perhaps even more so... I think it is possible the claims could be true.

Have a look at his youtube profile photo.... He has a "Halo" like image around his head as if he is somehow "angelic" or "Godlike"... Please... if this isn't self arrrogance at it's finest, I do not know what is....

https://www.youtube.com/@RussellBrand

Perhaps what he considers to be "Promiscious", is considered to be "Rape" in the "real world.... " I suppose we will learn more as things progress....

I think what will be most interesting, is how people react to such things, as we know there are pedophilia rings operating round the world, human trafficking, and some very perverse individuals among us.

Most of which are in positions of power and have fame and/or wealth as well.... I just hope people can detach from the fact that they may like what the guy has to say, long enough to let whatever evidence they do find, speak for itself.... Perhaps they ARE cracking down on such things, and there may be some in the alt community also guilty of such things...

But for now, he is innocent until proven guilty.

Will the community be able to accept that a mouthpiece for their beliefs could be guilty of such things? Or will they ignore everything and suggest it is just an attack on the alt media? I just hope people can stay in the middle until things progress and we find the real truth.

[Bruce G Charlton]

I regard RB as being overall on the wrong side and a bad person (look at his eyes!), who was for most of his career in service to the Establishment agenda.

But now he is being crushed because of the (few) things he says that are supporting the right side in the spiritual war*. Whatever the specifics of the accusations, by their own account it is clear that the Establishment was quite happy with RB's bad behaviors for many years (and happy to abet them), so long as he was 100% on-message and controlled. This is a show "execution" done with maximum publicity for the benefit of other elite opinion formers who might be considering going off-message, and asserting themselves, in any way at all.

*Analogous to Trump. DT had mostly wrong ideas and did mostly wrong things; but he was so vilified by the Establishment for the truths he spoke and the good things he attempted.

[Mari]

I've never felt comfortable with RB, as I don't with personalities with massive egos. However, I've respected his rights to whistleblow on whatever he felt needed to be shown. This indeed is a show 'execution', designed to put off those who want to tell a different narrative.
What better distraction, too, of a show trial of an individual who, because of his personality, is guaranteed to split the nation (or anyone who gives a damn) into the two camps - 'hate/love, guilty/innocent, genuine/controlled opposition, saint/sinner' etc etc., all abetted by the media who does these things so well.

I do believe he's been fitted up. It's interesting that this has kicked off since his interview with very popular Dr John Campbell, who has been trying to uncover the vaccine harms and deaths suffered by many many people who took the Jab/s It seems that truth-seekers cross a line when they try to uncover this. Because SO many people took this medical intervention, imo, it will be the one thing that will be capable of bringing the whole house of cards down very quickly if enough medically state-damaged victims wake up to find that they have nothing left to lose.
Also used as a useful distraction for the masses, this 'trial' will drag out to its excruciating end.

[John Hilton]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
I personally think he carries an undeserved air of "Self importance" that appears in his videos,

He's an actor. What you see in his videos is his acting persona. How he acts in private we'll probably never know.

On a personal note, I never found his persona appealing. That's a euphemism for "I'd change channel if he came on". (Back in the days when I owned a TV.)

But, recently, I subscribed to his YT channel because I like to monitor how he's waking the sheeples. He has over SIX MILLION followers. That's not bad for a UK comedian.

The Russel Brand Hit-Piece Explained - Viva & Barnes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rd6t5djTEw

Hypnotherapist Breaks Down Russel Brand Controversy (skip 7 minutes)

https://rumble.com/v3ikfo0-hypnother...ntroversy.html

[Miller]

I'm inclined to agree with Denise/Dizi, although the Russell Brand of today is of a far higher calibre than the Russell Brand of 10+ years ago.

Ten years ago, RB was an out of control adolescent, a loud-mouth ex addict with ADHD and a mockney cockney accent (OK, still got that), and a reputation for going too far. His very public disrespect to a young girl of 20, together with his cohort Jonathan Ross – just for laughs - was unbelievably cruel, even though he paid for her stay in rehab as a result of his actions. His behaviour to other women on tv generally was deeply unpleasant, and it’s not hard to imagine an ego that large and uncontrolled would see “consensual” where there was nothing of the sort. I can also see that the women concerned would find it difficult to come forward at that time, as Russell Brand was so popular and larger than life.

And yet today, he’s morphed into a “Man of the People”, a spokesperson for the alternative community and uses his YT channel platform with 6.5m subscribers to point the finger at the same people we do. And he does it well. He’s a family man, with (3?) children, and presents top class and meaningful discussions with (amongst others) Jordan Peterson, Tucker Carlson, Witney Webb and (my favourite) Vandana Shiva

The trend of bringing historical “crimes” into the present is unjust and highly questionable, although if he did the crime then he should do the time. But my view is that he’s obviously upset somebody – one of the elite, or maybe more than one given his extensive interview content. He’s not the first and won’t be the last to suffer trial by social media, but it remains to be seen whether his popularity will carry him through.

Here's Nigel Farage's take on it, which is very fair given the animosity between them in the past.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dQs3VVZyzsc

[Dennis Leahy]

I have been cancelled. I've gone through it and know, on a very small scale, what it feels like to be thrown under the bus unfairly. I often speak with passion and high drama from the passion, speak with confidence that I'm sure seems arrogant to some, and have been told that I sound way too dogmatic.

I cannot think of anyone on Earth, living or dead, that I believed every single thing they said was the truth. Even the ones that speak some of what I believe is the truth, the truth comes out of the mouth of a human being, a flawed, or imperfect human being just like you and me. Personality traits and delivery style get conflated into demonization and disbelief - the infamous, "kill the messenger."

Julian Assange has an arrogant affect, for an excellent example. Because the 9/11 perpetrators were smart enough not to put anything in writing, and so there was no written evidence in Assange's hands to form a case, Assange said, passionately, that it was crazy to jump on the 9/11 conspiracy bandwagon when he had no written proof of 9/11 high crimes but did have proof of other high crimes. Half the "alt" community still believes he's a gatekeeper for not pursuing 9/11 crimes and that he raped 2 women (and not the weird Swedish law stating that a broken condom equals rape.)

I could list a bunch of "alt" personalities that I am repulsed by their personality, but their words ring true. There are some, like the bearded long-haired guy that does some X-22 reports - I don't know his name - that are so snarky and arrogant I can't even listen to them. (By the way, I'm also bearded and long-haired - I only mention it as an identifier so I don't have to go look up his name.)

Russell Brand talks too fast, and often sounds arrogant to me. He's not nearly as funny as he thinks he is. He tries to be sexy, with the open-chested shirts and bad boy hair. He's a caricature of himself. Some may consider some of his flowy clothing and necklaces to be effeminate. He pontificates like a bible-thumping preacher. He appears to be confused at explaining the concept that we are really all one human species, brothers and sisters, and not differentiating between that and a one world government. He obviously has a past history of allowing his penis to drain the blood from his cranium, but being even outrageously promiscuous is a far cry from being a rapist. A lot of what he says is brilliant, but the delivery is so tainted by the "look at me!" ego-based, show-business, carnival barker personality that I have to fight to dismiss my emotional reaction to hear the substance of his words.


"Innocent until proven guilty - but I think he did it" is exactly the message that the Evil Overlords want you to hold onto. They don't have to prove anything, they accomplished their goal by demeaning his character in your mind, causing you to mistrust his words, his message.

[Dorjezigzag]

My ex-girlfriend used to work as a pianist at the Savoy Hotel in London where Russel Brand often used to stay for long periods. The staff at the Savoy loved him, contrary to some comments on this thread he never looked down on people and was always on the level, joking with them and making their often challenging day more fun. He invited some of them to his shows for free and no not just the pretty girls. He was in total contrast to many guests at the Savoy who treat the staff like servants.

If anyone was really noticing Russell Brand from the beginning of his career he was always challenging many of the absurdities of our society. He was a comedian like the court jester challenging taboos and putting a mirror to the face of society.

I have been saying since the beginning of this forum to watch Russel Brand he is going to be a real voice for the spiritual movement challenging the powers that be and that is exactly what he has done.

Is he an angel, most definitely not and he is quite honest about it in his several books that I would recommend people to read if they want to have an informed judgement.

[Ewan]

Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
My ex-girlfriend used to work as a pianist at the Savoy Hotel in London where Russel Brand often used to stay for long periods. The staff at the Savoy loved him, contrary to some comments on this thread he never looked down on people and was always on the level, joking with them and making their often challenging day more fun. He invited some of them to his shows for free and no not just the pretty girls. He was in total contrast to many guests at the Savoy who treat the staff like servants.

If anyone was really noticing Russell Brand from the beginning of his career he was always challenging many of the absurdities of our society. He was a comedian like the court jester challenging taboos and putting a mirror to the face of society.

I have been saying since the beginning of this forum to watch Russel Brand he is going to be a real voice for the spiritual movement challenging the powers that be and that is exactly what he has done.

Is he an angel, most definitely not and he is quite honest about it in his several books that I would recommend people to read if they want to have an informed judgement.

Thanking you by text as well as button. It's still word of mouth (ex-girlfriend) but closer to actuality than opinions and hunches formed through press reports and video viewings.

For what it is worth I don't care for his personality much either but as to being a womaniser as a younger man, good grief so what!
I was pretty much the same from 20-40 years of age. If I was attracted to a girl I tried to get to know her.

He was young, famous and attractive ='s money and girls. In his case drink and drugs too; I never walked a mile in his shoes and wouldn't habitually throw stones even if I had.

The message he shares with his followers today is good enough for me to indicate someone who turned the corner in maturity and is on a new path. Good for him, and the current fury in a tea-cup in the press currently is simply an attempt to cut his audience figures in my opinion.

[jaybee]

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The timing of all this....

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the interview with Tucker Carlson - YT - 1:06:22 that was the tipping point for the Elite wanna~be Global Dictators - it was the first interview that Tucker gave after being fired from Fox News.... and Russell got it... it's a great interview from both interviewee and interviewer .... and Tucker was on fire - but I can just imagine how it was received by the 'Evil Overlords' - and they decided to spread some muck - aim some poison at + around their enemies - and all those who oppose the growing authoritarianism... using Russell's past and zany personality as the main ingredient of their psychological attack -

Let's see where this goes - love him or loathe him - Russell Brand is a powerful individual who will fight back - (IMO)

[sunwings]

He married Katie Perry who is a clear Illuminati puppet. I honestly think he is guilty of every accusation. He had a serious cocaine and alcohol problem during the time the assaults took place. His biggest problem was an over-inflated ego, which he brilliantly now reflects on. However, he seems to have become a real thorn in the side of the establishment. He dismantles their narrative with intellectual ease. Really this takedown must be like shooting ducks in a barrel for the establishment. Furthermore, should we even support him becomes a moral dilemma. I honestly think he left behind a world of debris and trauma to many vulnerable women!

[Valknut3301]

I'm not a fan of Russel Brand, but I do have a certain respect for him, or more specifically what he does, nonetheless. I think the reality is that there's only one person (not including any potential victims) who really knows the truth, and that's Russel Brand. We don't know and we will likely never know, even if the evidence presented is substantial, because evidence can be created, supposed witnesses coached and courts paid off.
Inevitably it doesn't matter, because this kind of character assassination is damning in and of itself. Russel Brand's name will forever be spoken like this: 'Russel brand, who was accused of sexual assault in 2023, will be appearing...' which will immediately turn most people off without knowing anything about any of it. Simply making the accusation is an end unto itself.

[Icare]

Wow, he really must have angered some members of his "club" (maybe he exposed more than he was allowed to).
This is an article from "The Times" from Saturday. They are going all out. The article is very explicit (and long). It must have taken some time to put all this information together.

https://archive.ph/2023.09.16-150008...tion-v5hxdlmb6

[gini]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gf_N-nPHris

--LIVE: The Russell Brand Allegations | Piers Morgan Uncensored | 18-Sep-23--The first 18 minutes ;Piers has three ladies debating the allegations.After that 3 more items ,all about the case of Brand.

[happyuk]

If you were accused of something as horrific as rape, or similar, and given that Brand has chosen to speak out publicly what would you say?

He's chosen to speak on his YouTube channel and there is the perfect time to deny the specific allegations made. And only then you can make accusations about the accusers.

I just need to hear him say it. It would be "I didn't do it!" or "I didn't rape her" or "We had consensual sex, but I didn't rape her", would it not? I want to hear him say that, but so far he has not.

Brand has only said "I refute the allegations". OK, so we'll wait for a refutation. Has anybody yet heard one? He hasn't brought himself to say "I didn't" or any reliable denial, choosing instead to conflate rape (a crime) with promiscuity (not a crime) and that's very concerning to me.

Yes, people with unfashionable views opposed to official narratives are being silenced / cancelled, that is true. And some of his accusers might have genuine motives, money & fame- seeking motives or even both (yes, this does happen).

The investigations began in 2019 before his YouTube anti-establishment caper kicked off, so the idea it's all a conspiracy to silence him like eg Assange doesn't really make sense.

[scotslad]

Many of us are aware of "Problem. Reaction. Solution" to mould, shape and implement an agenda....

...howerver, it appears the new method is "Cancel. Censor, then Punish"..


Youtube has suspended the monetisation of Russell Brand's Youtube channel apparently because of his views on Covid. Interestingly as reported by this UK NEWs channel, the same happened to them when they discussed Covid in their news reports.

This video is only 3.3m long and the reporter makes some interesting points...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ghhTPt9-0Ug

according to the uk news, his management have now dropped him, tours cancelled etc etc.

It also now appears that the reporters from the documentary dispatches tracked down the girls to interview them, and not the other way around. Sounds similar to the Tate brothers being accused by anonomous parties from incidents of 10 years ago.

He was free on youtube knocking the establishment and the party line, and now all is crumbling around him.

Eee me, wheres it all going to end.

one thing's for sure, Stephen Fry perhaps sums up his opinion of Russell rather eloquently (and accurately imo) in this interview from 8 years ago with some very interesting observations regarding Russell, politics and the way truth is perceived...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LP1V8G-JPLQ

(Only 2.4m

[gini]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bsg_wt_w4YM

--1 of the comments on the show. ; "If there is penetration on an unwilling partner - it is rape by every law I can think of. That said, I don't think this has anything to do with justice, it has to do with a drugged out lover and a woman who was over her head when it came to him. That said, he has cleaned up, he is sorry, he has made amends so far as I can tell and we need to go from there. I have yet to meet Jesus, and Brand most certainly was not even close in those years. Can he and these women find peace - I hope so because this is a set up. People want him gone and they have dug up his murky past in order to do so. The greater harm would be for this to work and he be taken down because at that point none of you are safe - they will find whatever they can to get rid of you all."

[gini]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nm7RwLWBTcw