The Why, What and Where of the WOW! Signal

[Jim_Duyer]

I intend to publically publish the technical details allowing one to confirm my translation of the famous SETI WOW! Signal from 1977, and so I cannot include that information here, but I can offer answers to the questions above.

The SETI program at Ohio State University had been going on for some time prior to their success. They were listening for signals from the stars. In fact, the Guinness World Records Book lists Big Ear under the category of Longest Extraterrestrial Search, and includes photographs of the Observatory and the volunteer staff. Their entry in the Guinness World Records reads: "The longest-running full-scale SETI (search for extraterrestrial intelligence) project is the Ohio SETI Program at Ohio State University in Columbus, OH, which has searched the universe for extraterrestrial radio signals for 22 years, beginning in 1973."

Dr. Jerry R. Ehman was one of the paid astronomers who lost his job at the observatory when federal funding was cut by the United States Congress. Actually all of the scientists except the Director, Dr. John Kraus, who was funded directly by the Ohio State Department of Electrical Engineering, lost their jobs. Dr. Ehman had been working at Ohio State as an assistant professor in electrical engineering and astronomy, and after he was let go, he stayed on as an unpaid volunteer to work on the SETI project that was underway.

His dedication paid off. On August 15, 1977, while going over a printout of signals received from the previous days searches, he noticed one group of signals that were so incredibly strong in intensity that they literally jumped off the charts. He had never seen a signal that strong before, it was nearly thirty times louder than the normal noise from deep space. He was so astonished that he used his red pen to circled that position on the computer printout and write his famous comment of "Wow!" in the margin, a name that has since been associated with this event. Out of the many "possibles" and "maybe's" that SETI has uncovered in over four decades of searching, this is their best known evidence and the strongest candidate for an alien radio transmission yet received.

So that's the why - why Dr. Ehman thought it worth a 'WOW!'. It was received with an intensity of 30 Janskys, while other suspected signals from space clock in at a paltry 1 Jansky or less. He received a super strong signal. And not only was it incredibly powerful but in addition to being the highest power signal that the Ohio radio observatory had ever received, the Wow! signal's spread was less than ten KHz out of the entire transmission frequency of 1420.4556 MHz - in other words, an astonishingly focused signal.

As to the what - I've published the answer to the question of what previously, but for the sake of completeness I will repeat that it translates to Da Fe, with da meaning to give, but since you have to have something in order to give it, it also means "to have". Fe is a Spanish shortcut for "faith". But rather than an indication of religious faith, they were telling us not to give up, to keep listening, and to "have faith in their desire to continue communications". And continue them they did - only in the form of Fast Radio Burst Transmissions. I have also translated the FRB's but that's a story for another thread, please.


But what I believe to be the most interesting question of all is the where. Nobody talks about the where very much at all - almost as if it is some verboten subject. However, if you read the full report by Dr. Ehman and not just the mainstream news commentaries on the event, you will discover that he does provide an accurate report on where the signal came from. And the 'where' has definite links to our own civilizations of ancient times, as we shall see.

What is the current scientific opinion regarding the specific location from which these signals originated? Soon after it was received, the signal was quickly determined to have originated in the constellation Sagittarius, more precisely about 2.5 degrees south of the fifth-magnitude star, Chi Sagittarii. Yet there was nothing of importance in that area of space; no planets, close stars, radio sources, or even debris near that location - nothing to indicate a platform from which the signal might have been broadcast. Unless, of course, that platform was moving through space, under power.

However, there must be something crucial to that location, because the signal that Karl Jansky received in 1932 also originated from within the constellation Sagittarius. In honor of Jansky, the unit used by radio astronomers for the spectral irradiance of radio sources is the jansky.

Karl Guthe Jansky (October 22, 1905 - February 14, 1950) was an American physicist and radio engineer who in April 1933 first announced his discovery of radio waves emanating from the Milky Way in the constellation Sagittarius. He is considered one of the founding figures of radio astronomy.

John D. Kraus, who, after World War II, started a radio observatory at Ohio State University and wrote a textbook on radio astronomy, long considered a standard by radio astronomers. The same radio observatory that the WOW! Signal was received at.

"In 1930 essentially all that we knew about the heavens had come from what we could see or photograph. Karl Jansky changed all that. A universe of radio sounds to which mankind had been deaf since time immemorial now suddenly burst forth in full chorus." -John D. Krauss


Jansky died at age 44 in a Red Bank, New Jersey, hospital due to a heart condition. Historical reports from modern times report that he understood that he was listening to space noise or quasars, and this reminds me of the weather balloon explanation that we are familiar with. But in his reports in Radio magazines he went much further - he was of the firm opinion that it was very likely that he was receiving communications from space. And perhaps that led to his 'heart condition'.

The constellation Corona Australis features an easily identifiable pattern of stars, arranged in an oval or horseshoe shape, which produces the distinctive outline of a crown. It is bordered by the constellations Sagittarius to the north and just east of Scorpion's stinger. To our ancestors, Corona Australis was known as a circlet of stars near the forefeet of the centaur represented by the neighboring constellation Sagittarius. In fact, the ancient Babylonians and Greeks saw Corona Australis as associated with, and a part of, the constellation Sagittarius, also referred to as the archer in Greek mythology.

And perhaps you and I do have another clue in our possession. If you will recall from another of my posts on the geological creation of Earth, one portion of the translation mentions "the Bow", as part of the answer this event.

On the following page is a drawing that indicates the location where Dr. Ehman and his fellow scientists believe the 'Wow!' signal originated from. I have used an image from antiquity to illustrate the association between these two constellations, as it is very clear that Corona Australis was held to be a component part of the constellation Sagittarius.

I've placed an arrow with the number one, near the location where the scientists tell us the signal originated from, in the heart of the constellation Sagittarius. We also find the referenced "bow" of Sagittarius marked with an arrow and the number two, and in front of the heart of the centaur beast we find the small constellation called Corona Australis, whose Latin name means the Southern "Crown." (Corona means crown, and Australis refers to southern, or those areas of the globe located in the southern half.)





Non-followers of established religions can skip the next paragraph, but for the rest here it is:

Revelations 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." Bible scholars tell us that this is a clear reference to Sagittarius in our Milky Way, and to Corona Australis, or the Southern Crown. Our image from antiquity includes the rider of the horse, the "Bow," and the "Crown" that he wore to conquer. The conquering part bothers me a bit.

A very ancient tablet of knowledge, written using Cuneiform symbols, provides us with additional facts regarding this particular constellation. Enki (later known as Ea), a god in Akkadian and Babylonian mythology, was held to be the deity associated with crafts, water, intelligence and even the creation of man. He was also linked with the southern bank of constellations called the "Stars of Ea." These were considered to be his personal stars of power and influence. And Corona Australis is believed to have represented the constellation recorded on Babylonian tablets as MA.GUR, representing one of the fifteen "Stars of Ea."

Next we have the disingenuous contribution from our traditional translators of Sumerian.

The constellation of the Southern Crown, which some of our Sumerian scholars have translated as "the Cargo-Boat," is written as "MUL MA2 GUR8" in Babylonian Cuneiform. Why don't we see what we can uncover on our own, without the help of our scholars, regarding the true meaning indicated by that phrase?

When we research the meaning of the designation MA2.GUR8, we find scholars referring to this as indicating a boat, a bark, a cargo boat, a barge, etc. These are neither straightforward nor honest translations, and they are not related to the intended meaning of that phrase in English. Most professional Assyriologists know better, so this is intentional and not accidental.

In looking up MA2-GUR8 (I use the website of the University of Pennsylvania most often), the actual cuneiform glyph assignment for that term, we need to look way down towards the bottom, below the barge and other "friendly" definitions supplied to us.

Looking further down the page in the definitions, we find that these symbols pertain to a "geometric figure," which is getting closer to the true meaning, and then, on the final line, we see that it is derived from the Sumerian and Akkadian word "magurgurru." And when we look up the word magurgurru, we find that it means "Ark". Yes, the same word with the same meaning as the craft used by Noah from the Biblical tales. And it can have no other meaning, because we find it in the Babylonain Epic of the Flood, and this chronicle is believed to have inspired the Biblical account of Noah's Ark.

Just to be very clear that the meaning of the word Ark, as found in the Sumerian tablets, relates to a life-saving construction similar to that built by Noah, in the Sumerian Epic we see a stanza that explains: "That ship shall be a magurgurru (giant boat or Ark), and its name shall be 'Preserver of Life' (litteraly She that preserves life)." And in the Sumerian account of the worldwide flood or deluge, we see that a word which might be rendered as "great boat" or "ark" in the Sumerian text is the identical word which is used in an early Hebrew (Semitic) fragment of the Deluge story.

Does the definition of "cargo-boat," supplied by many scholars, seem realistic or even honest? Is there a reason why we are not being furnished with the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

What is significant about the Sumerian and Mesopotamian god Enki, later known as Ea, and his assignment of the Southern Cross to the group of stars that supposedly were his source of power?

Enki was portrayed as a wise and resourceful god. In many myths, he stands as protector of human kind against the sweeping cosmic powers of his more ethereal brothers. When Enlil decides to sweep the earth clean of humans by sending a great flood, it is Enki who first advises his human servant how to build a craft that will save him and his family, and later, when the wrathful Enlil discovers that humans survived his punishment, it is once again Enki who persuades the other gods to relent on totally destroying humanity.

Please understand that these stories from ancient Sumerian cultures, and the ideas surrounding the various accomplishments of the pagan gods that the people of that period idolized, are presented as a possible connection between Enki and the Southern Crown constellation. They are not meant to reflect, intrude upon or influence any of your personal religious beliefs or values, or my own for that matter, in any way.

Enlil was also linked in the Sumerian records as a member of the Anunnaki, sometimes called "the Shining Ones," a council of gods and goddesses that some connect to the Watchers, or Watchmen, who were assigned the task of watching over humanity on Earth. These Watchers are referred to as the Nephilim, in the Old Testament portion of our Bible, and there is a great deal of reference to their being the fallen Angels of God, as well.


So here we have the interesting prospect of an ancient reference to the Crown constellation as constituting part of the fifteen stars that supposedly gave power to the Babylonian god Ea (Enki), who was known in myth as the creator god of man and the god of intelligence. Is this just a another happy coincidence? Or could this incorporate the additional significance that our most ancient civilizations connected Corona Australis to the home planet of those who may have looked after our species during its history?

If our memory of a Great Flood was from an even earlier memory of the Waves in Space, and the Ark was our recollection of being packed, along with animals and plants, inside a craft for replanting on Earth, could the "WOW!" signal from someone near Sagittarius or the Crown represent an urgent message that we should hold tight, that they are indeed coming for us after all? Perhaps it's not very probable, but it does seem to be something that we cannot rule out entirely - without further evidence that is.

[Icare]

Thank you, Jim, that's a fascinating read.

[Jim_Duyer]

You're most welcome.

[Casey Claar]

I have added this to my reading list. Yes, thank you !!

[lunaflare]

Hello Jim

Does this WOW correlate with the Galactic Centre that is referenced by astrologers?

Here is an article written by Melanie Reinhart in 2017. She states that Sagittarius is the home of the Galactic Centre, currently at 27.3 degrees of Sagittarius and moving 1 degree every 72 years.

https://www.astro.com/astrology/aa_article170503_e.htm

A paragraph in the article;

Thus, the knowledge that our entire Solar System revolves around a yet greater centre called the ‘Galactic Centre’ parallels an inner need within humanity to be released from the egoic ‘false-self-hood’ as represented by the (distorted) heliocentric worldview. Trapped in this paradigm, human selfishness engenders a narcissistic way of life fuelled by greed and consumerism – vested interests convince us that we have to get, buy, procure or achieve a multitude of substitutes for the true Self-hood for which we long. However, our true individuality, related to the symbolism of gold, as mentioned above, prompts us to see through these delusions and to rest in the inner light of which it partakes, safe in the knowledge that the Self is innate and cannot be bought, sold or achieved

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by lunaflare (here)
Hello Jim

Does this WOW correlate with the Galactic Centre that is referenced by astrologers?

Here is an article written by Melanie Reinhart in 2017. She states that Sagittarius is the home of the Galactic Centre, currently at 27.3 degrees of Sagittarius and moving 1 degree every 72 years.

https://www.astro.com/astrology/aa_article170503_e.htm

A paragraph in the article;

Thus, the knowledge that our entire Solar System revolves around a yet greater centre called the ‘Galactic Centre’ parallels an inner need within humanity to be released from the egoic ‘false-self-hood’ as represented by the (distorted) heliocentric worldview. Trapped in this paradigm, human selfishness engenders a narcissistic way of life fuelled by greed and consumerism – vested interests convince us that we have to get, buy, procure or achieve a multitude of substitutes for the true Self-hood for which we long. However, our true individuality, related to the symbolism of gold, as mentioned above, prompts us to see through these delusions and to rest in the inner light of which it partakes, safe in the knowledge that the Self is innate and cannot be bought, sold or achieved

Interesting comment, thank you. I believe that Dr. Ehman did not receive the support form other Radio Astronomers that he had hoped for, and thus was unable to pinpoint just how far into the galactic center it may have originated. You really need three points at different spots on Earth to obtain that data.

Oddly enough, even after he had shown some results for SETI, the money for that project did not increase much. Says a lot about how false their purported interest in space messages really is in the government.

However, the FRB's did indeed come from near that point - the Galactic center.

Part of my research included having to learn how they determine distances, since, as a former Radioman, I have had some practical experience in that area - signal strength, drop, distance evaluations, propagation, etc.,

And basically, to my utter dismay, the depressing truth is that, like their so-called mapping of "all" of Mars, it's a wild-ass guess followed by a thick layer of bullcrap. Their reasoning goes like this: since the signal was so strong, it must have come from a very far distance, otherwise it would have dropped off. Because the power to send those from long distances would exceed the total amount of power that the Earth could produce. Again, however, they try to frame everything around the Earth and it's potentials and it's knowledge of science - no thinking outside of the box for those boys. Which sounds like how the Church described the sun revolving around the flat earth. And they have PhD's as well. Circular reasoning and feigned stupidity as a coverup for what they might suspect is true?
Could be.

I will say this about the origin. The power that it took for them to broadcast that 30 jansky burst - which, hello Scientists, is the attention getting device that signals "a message follows", would have been substantial. And perhaps they have such things as science budgets on their worlds as well, and politicians deciding how important certain projects are.

A good radio operator and radio engineer like Jansky could have helped the scientists come up with those answers. But that might be just why he's no longer with us - because he thought it his duty to share things with the public.
Wikipedia has wiped out the pages that provide his historical background - but the antenna that he first built he constructed in his own yard, without help or instructions, and with materials he could salvage. He was that good.

We should be happy that they can not broadcast to us 24/7 - that would mean that they had the power to invade us as well, just to take a quick look-see at what we might have that they need.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thank you very much for this. Extremely fascinating, every bit of it!

An image of the Wow! signal printout to those who may not be so familiar with it.

"6EQUJ5"


"Allegedly" Ehman and his team attempted afterwards to recover the signal, but failed to detect it, or anything ever again from that region of space. My first question Jim, is do you think it's possible there were follow-up signals to 'Wow!' that we never got to hear about? Just thinking of the Secrecy Establishment that, since 1947, has thrown a veil over [hidden] research and discoveries in this area, impacting almost anything to do with matters non-terrestrial.

Second question, related, concerns the Flood itself. I don't know if you're familiar or not with Edgar Cayce, or if you are, believe 'that stuff'. But according to Cayce, the Noah episode and the Biblical flood occurred far earlier than even believers believe. His approximate date for the deluge was 28,000BC. Just wondered how, if at all, this tallies with your research.

[Jim_Duyer]

Sorry - lost my internet for a few hours.

Thanks for your kind comments. Yes, that's the WOW! signal in the image. Think of someone using an announcer, and by that I mean a really, really strong signal, of whatever type or content, and designed to grab your attention from the many others that are mere chaff on your screens. And, as is true of both the WOW and the FRBs, the message is hidden inside of what follows. It's called "piggybacking" a signal, and it's a form of obfuscation in itself.

As to follow up messages, it's entirely possible. Have you ever read the SETI agreement that they ask people to sign when they join the worldwide group? You are to turn over all data, everything, and then you are to stay silent. Only they can decide whether or not you have anything, and only that scientific group can publish or kill it. Not very friendly for the general public, is it? Now the Dr. was trying to get back into full-time employment, as he was then working on his own free time when he got the signal. And the College needed more money. And they ended up with another telescope, better one. Get the picture? I don't like to speak anything bad about the Dr. since he is a hero in my book, especially working for free to discover and announce this - contrary to the wishes of SETI.

Everything I know about Edgar Cayce I learned form the Dark Journalist shows. I agree with Cayce that the flood was much earlier than we are led to believe. I put it at 7300 B.C., but who's to say that was the first one? I listen to what he says, but keep my options open. I can't discount the form of contact he used since I ask myself the tough questions, go to sleep, and have the answers when I awaken. So who knows?

[Jim_Duyer]

Mark (Star Mariner) (and others)
One thing that I can tell you, with full confidence based on a great many ancient writings, is that we, the human race, did not originate on Earth. My closest estimate is that we were brought here about 436,000 years ago.
And Mistakes Were Made. For some reason, the plan to have the people from six or seven planets all live together fell apart, even after having their memories wiped before depositing here. It would have made for a lovely mix of humanity with a lot less problems than we have today.
And then we began to lose our intelligence. The first crop were super-smart, and we have been steadily losing ground ever since. The first group had about double the intelligence of modern man. Perhaps it's something that fell into our atmosphere from a comet, or something perhaps on the Earth itself.
They've been coming back, testing, and trying to identify their personal groups ever since. Whether that's to help us or to freshen their own DNA I don't know for sure. There is more than one group that never left, and some that are showing up all over. You can understand that each of their groups has the feeling that they are related to one or more groups of us and that we "owe" them somehow.

If you ever wish to hear a heartbreaking story, the reports from our ancients contain it - wailing, cries about slavery on other planets, gods and pretend gods who called the shots, even to the loss of whole cultures. The texts say they take them young as well, if they can.

Supposedly, according to their messages, there is a group that are trying to help us as much as they can - mostly with information since they are afraid to get involved. They are the WOW group, among others. Whether this is true or not or if they will indeed produce is another question I have. I remain hopeful but cautious.

I know - sounds nutty. But it's from several civilizations, spread over most of the Earth that these ideas come. So there could be some truth to it. Just an FYI for those who wish to hear it. Jim

[onawah]

There is one very credible, regular and well documented reason as to why human intelligence declines and that is increased radiation from the Sun during the geomagnetic pole reversal, which causes the magnetic layer around the Earth to diminish.
That lets in lots more radiation, which has a negative impact not only on intelligence, but on emotional stability as well.
See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1578144

Also, note that Cayce mentioned more than one global cataclysm in his readings, and the most credible scientific data shows they happen on quite a regular basis, as with the 12,000 year solar cycle/geomagnetic pole reversals (of which we are currently in the beginning stages of yet again.)
Comet impacts can occur sporadically, but comets impacts also occur regularly as a result of those regular cycles, with all the disruption they cause within the solar system and beyond.
For a comprehensive understanding of how that all works, and the data to support it, see the playlists on SuspiciousObservers youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@Suspicious0bservers/playlists

Otherwise, imho, you will have a very limited and distorted understanding of the causes of the major changes this planet has regularly undergone.
Bill Ryan, for one, is in agreement about this.
See:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1513057

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
And then we began to lose our intelligence. The first crop were super-smart, and we have been steadily losing ground ever since. The first group had about double the intelligence of modern man. Perhaps it's something that fell into our atmosphere from a comet, or something perhaps on the Earth itself.

[Bill Ryan]

A dramatic version of [something like] the WOW signal, as depicted in the wonderful 1997 movie Contact.

(You have to click to open the first clip to see it, but for both those who have and haven't seen the movie, they're VERY well done and VERY worth while. )

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NCkbekhUdw4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-ciK05XqlOw

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by onawah (here)
There is one very credible, regular and well documented reason as to why human intelligence declines and that is increased radiation from the Sun during the geomagnetic pole reversal, which causes the magnetic layer around the Earth to diminish.
That lets in lots more radiation, which has a negative impact not only on intelligence, but on emotional stability as well.
See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1578144

Also, note that Cayce mentioned more than one global cataclysm in his readings, and the most credible scientific data shows they happen on quite a regular basis, as with the 12,000 year solar cycle/geomagnetic pole reversals (of which we are currently in the beginning stages of yet again.)
Comet impacts can occur sporadically, but comets impacts also occur regularly as a result of those regular cycles, with all the disruption they cause within the solar system and beyond.
For a comprehensive understanding of how that all works, and the data to support it, see the playlists on SuspiciousObservers youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@Suspicious0bservers/playlists

Otherwise, imho, you will have a very limited and distorted understanding of the causes of the major changes this planet has regularly undergone.
Bill Ryan, for one, is in agreement about this.
See:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1513057

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
And then we began to lose our intelligence. The first crop were super-smart, and we have been steadily losing ground ever since. The first group had about double the intelligence of modern man. Perhaps it's something that fell into our atmosphere from a comet, or something perhaps on the Earth itself.

I stop by to learn things. And today with your post I have picked up quite a bit of interesting and valuable information. Thank you.

[Jim_Duyer]

I'm downloading Contact to watch it again tonight, thanks. The frequency of hydrogen was used because the governments knew that the aliens had never used anything that high before. They planned to fail, it was their objective - garner money for trying, plan to fail, fail, blame it on no aliens nearby, repeat.

The truth is that Tesla was at the frequency that DARPA uses, and the Long Delayed Echos were just a bit above that. Once we started using hydrogen - and Ultra High frequency range - the aliens began using that! So they are adaptable.

Most of the information that I have I uncovered eight or nine years ago. I did not publish because I was afraid of the backlash - because I have a verification code to use - provided in message seven, that can authenticate our two-way conversation. I also have the frequency that the would like us to reply on. Someone from one of our pin-headed government agencies might want to help me provide that to them.

I won't share these even after publishing - until a group is formed and dedicated toward contacting them. They mention, in two messages, that they do not wish to speak to military, government or religious leaders. So they are not so dumb after all.

There are about a hundred, worldwide, who have received similar messages, although not so detailed and not with the authentication or contact frequencies. I even have longitude and latitude of seven "hives" as they call it - underground bases of groups in opposition to theirs. I helped a high-school kid in Cornwall to understand and decipher the symbols he was drawing, over and over in his room. His mom emailed me recently that he is now in University for archaeology with a specialty in Sumerian and other languages, so it must have rubbed off. His mom put me in touch with others, some in Great Britain, who are receiving the messages as well - a very tight and close group. Even with this introduction they did not seem to wish to talk further with me - other than in person. And while I have been in England twice in the past ten years, our timelines did not match.

So I have decided that now is the time to publish these - first the book that I am working on now and then this one next. I;m working fast but I have to learn to make print pages because my last book was stolen - the Ebook, as fast as I published it on Amazon. The next ones will be privately printed by locals who don't know English, and who I can watch while they work.

When I have a major breakthrough I tell my wife that today is Christmas again. I've had several Christmas days this year - so some how or in some way things are coming to a head. Cayce was the sleeping prophet. I'm not a prophet but I ponder something difficult that I can not decipher before I go to bed and when I wake up I have the answer - so maybe.

Look for a new and great discovery in a thread this afternoon. Jim

PS Without your encouragement I would go nuts here in my mountain cabin, so thanks for your help.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
The first crop were super-smart, and we have been steadily losing ground ever since. The first group had about double the intelligence of modern man. Perhaps it's something that fell into our atmosphere from a comet, or something perhaps on the Earth itself.

An interesting snip.

I recall in one of Dolores Cannon's early books, I think it was "Keepers of the Garden", which details at length the extra-terrestrial progenitors of humanity, who millennia ago set up shop right here on Earth, it is stated that at a certain point in the 'experiment' (to seed Earth with a proto-human race), something went wrong, badly wrong, and it was blamed on a rogue comet they did not detect. It hit the earth and caused huge damage to their endeavour. The key detail -- there was something on that comet, something pathogenic, and it filtered into the ecosystem and corrupted it. After that, Humans were never the same again.

This seems to align strongly with your research, so thought it was worth mentioning!

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
The first crop were super-smart, and we have been steadily losing ground ever since. The first group had about double the intelligence of modern man. Perhaps it's something that fell into our atmosphere from a comet, or something perhaps on the Earth itself.

An interesting snip.

I recall in one of Dolores Cannon's early books, I think it was "Keepers of the Garden", which details at length the extra-terrestrial progenitors of humanity, who millennia ago set up shop right here on Earth, it is stated that at a certain point in the 'experiment' (to seed Earth with a proto-human race), something went wrong, badly wrong, and it was blamed on a rogue comet they did not detect. It hit the earth and caused huge damage to their endeavour. The key detail -- there was something on that comet, something pathogenic, and it filtered into the ecosystem and corrupted it. After that, Humans were never the same again.

This seems to align strongly with your research, so thought it was worth mentioning!

Wow. I've never read any of her work, but yes, it seems we share the same idea to some extent at least.
It isn't very difficult to reduce IQ, but our scholars won't even discuss it, let along look into it. Perhaps it worked even stronger on their brains?
My sources tell me that they took humans from six or seven planets and placed them on Earth. Others, who claim that we were "created" or "modified" by aliens don't agree with me, but I have to stick to what our ancient ones tell us.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Multiple different human races being placed on Earth is also, if I recall correctly, what Cannon says. There were several 'gardens of Eden' -- or areas where the seedings took place, and therefore several different Adams/Eves if we are to envision the ancient myth. Not all those 'races' still exist today, e.g. there was supposedly once a blue-skinned variety of human.

I'd have to read the book again for further details (there's a lot in there and is a fascinating read), but I do remember the 'aliens', after their experiment was trashed by the comet, very nearly scrapped it to start over at a later time. But, this was not their first attempt to create a 'nursery' type planet containing a mixture of different races, and this one had taken so very long to plan and implement -- so they let it run, play out, believing it was 'meant to be', that a higher plan or purpose was at work.

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Multiple different human races being placed on Earth is also, if I recall correctly, what Cannon says. There were several 'gardens of Eden' -- or areas where the seedings took place, and therefore several different Adams/Eves if we are to envision the ancient myth. Not all those 'races' still exist today, e.g. there was supposedly once a blue-skinned variety of human.

I'd have to read the book again for further details (there's a lot in there and is a fascinating read), but I do remember the 'aliens', after their experiment was trashed by the comet, very nearly scrapped it to start over at a later time. But, this was not their first attempt to create a 'nursery' type planet containing a mixture of different races, and this one had taken so very long to plan and implement -- so they let it run, play out, believing it was 'meant to be', that a higher plan or purpose was at work.

Fascinating. I have seen clues leading me to believe that some adepts, and especially those of the Hermes group and the alchemists were privy to this knowledge - that's what the Masons are keeping close to their vest. But the Masons have a few things very wrong in their translations of the Temple of Solomon, and I hope to steer them back on track when I get to that section. Of course there is the possibility that their upper ranks know more than they share with the lower ones.

My goal is to clear up whatever I can - because when the time comes, and it will be soon, we need to be able to pick out the good guys from the bad guys, and not fall back into worship of star people as we have been doing for thousands of years in one belief system or another. Not all of them are "good". But we also don't need one group calling them Devils and shooting first - we need to be on our best behavior.

Did you know that the archaeologists, and they have searched and searched, believe me, have never found any evidence or signs of warfare among the Neanderthal or the Cro-Magnon people? It seems with lower intelligence comes warfare.

[Craig]

Fascinating posts, I have only just caught up, but very eager to read more,

[mojo]

More interesting is the Satellite & deep space communications currently ongoing... IMO this signal that skinwalker ranch has picked up on numerous times would make a better investigation. The Wow signal happened once but this 1.6GHZ signal is repeatable. I wonder if any Ham operators are monitoring it? The signal has been observed in more places than skinwalker ranch as well.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FAvGm7yZD2Y

[Delight]

Just started watching and it begins in Sardinia which is one of my fascinations. Thought Jim and all will enjoy it.

The Primordial Code [ Documentary ]

Marijn Poels

What if you visit a place where you’re confronted with our history that turns out to be much different than the one you were always led to believe? How a false narrative has managed to keep the whole foundation of our being in its grip by shifting reality into myths.
A story of how oppression and fear have kept us from developing our primal forces for thousands of years, which are now being reclaimed worldwide. Because it's just in our human DNA and it's easier to reclaim than once thought.

A mind-boggling experimental quest by documentarian Marijn Poels into our distant past to win back our primal code again

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TYQ3cI2J4aM