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    Netanyahu is a MONSTER (and a war criminal). He is rapidly gaining on the evil scorecard of Adolf himself. Almost 30,000 Palestinians are now dead because of this mass murderer and his complicit co-conspirators.



    BREAKING: Netanyahu declares Israel 'outside of international law'.

    "Israel will not recognise any decision of the ICJ on Israel’s illegal occupation".

    Israel is a pariah state. Countries should:

    •Expel their ambassadors
    •Sanction Israel
    •Issue Hague warrants for the war criminal monsters
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    Israel once again has captured civilians of Gaza to making them pose like terrorists.

    This is so immoral.

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    That is pathetic that fake videos of ships sinking must immediately be uploaded.

    Hint:

    the Yemenis are not hanging around taking pictures of damage they claim to inflict!

    Reports on abandonment, status, etc., may perhaps be more accurate from an authority such as:


    United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO)


    Yemen only said it was "at risk" of sinking.

    Doesn't really matter, the vessel is effectively de-commissioned, one way or another.

    The first rounds of strikes on ships probably only caused minor damage, or may have even missed--maybe this will get a little attention. Perhaps like Hezbollah developing a missile that will reach Eilat.

    This one seems to have provoked two new attacks from Satan, the U. S. and Britain. Not that they don't give all they've got for precious Zio Holocaust so Jesus may smile.

    Israel does not need to dismiss ICJ jurisdiction, because it has none, aside from what the U. S. will enforce for it.

    Sad but true. The "international community" is dead meat, and rotting.

    No normal definitions apply here, this is all about the use of force, jungle law. These experts have really reduced man to a beast. That thing pictured above arguably has not evolved out of the fungal stage. Perhaps one day it can be "waterboarded", or one of those other interesting techniques that cause it to say why its behavior is ok. Certainly nothing it says in sober consciousness is allowable.

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    Alastair Crooke's assessment of what drives Israelis to continue with the slaughter of Palestinians. To paraphrase: The great majority of Israelis feel cornered since October 7, and demand from their government the most brutal deterrance against Palestinians so that Jews can feel safe again in Israel. They will never agree to a 2 state solution. In other words they want to eliminate Palestinians. However, there is the 'Resistance' who sees that Isreal will exhaust itself as it continues on this course.

    Alastair Crooke: Israel/US Fatal Mistakes


    In my opinion, Israelis have cornered themselves through their own delusions. Their cruelty and their crimes will never be forgotten, and this has made Israel unsafe for Jews. Their main achievement is having bought USA politicians with american taxpayers $$$, and they control USA's (still) considerable military power. But even that has started to change.

    Isn't there something the rest of the world do to stop this slaughter? Israelis have gone mad, and they have nukes. So, perhaps a total embargo and blockade on Israel from all sides. And a ban on all military supplies for the next 20 years, at least. Other ideas?

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    The Jordanian minister is super smart... everything he says about the Israeli regime is true... but this interviewer should be more profound... her skill are so weak here... she had opportunities....

    Conflict Zone live panel on the future of Israeli-Palestinian relations at the Munich Security Conference. DW’s Sarah Kelly leads a discussion on the war in Gaza and wider conflict in the Middle East.
    Kicking of with a setting-the-scene interview with the prime minister of the Palestinian Authority, Mohammed Shtayyeh, the session will be followed by a panel discussion with Israeli, Jordanian and other officials. Is there a prospect for long-term peace?

    Participants:
    Mohammad Shtayyeh, Prime Minister Palestinian Authority
    Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister
    Tzipi Livni, Israel former Foreign Minister
    José Manuel Albares Bueno, Spanish Foreign Minister
    Mélanie Joly, Canadian Foreign Minister


    The future of Israeli-Palestinian relations | Conflict Zone MSC live debate


    And here one interesting video from YTY..

    New York Governor Kathy Hochul on Friday apologized for remarks she made at a Jewish philanthropy event in New York City that went viral on social media and which suggested Israel had justification to destroy Gaza following the Oct. 7 Hamas attack.

    "If Canada someday ever attacked Buffalo, I'm sorry, my friends, there would be no Canada the next day," Hochul said in a portion of her speech on Thursday at an event for the United Jewish Appeal-Federation of New York."

    Gov. Kathy Hochul Makes DISTURBING Joke About Gaza
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    This is sickening and what will it take for the world leaders to do something, to stop this torture????????

    Israeli News Parades Palestinian Prisoners



    "What I Saw Wasn't War — It Was Annihilation," Says U.S. Doctor Who Volunteered in Gaza Hospital
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    Netanyahu does not have to worry....
    The slaves (the American people) will take care of the war bill.... Crazy!!! Krystal is a journalist I love... Invisible balls...

    Israel Econ COLLAPSE Amid Gaza ESCALATION


    Israel Crimes EXPOSED At The Hague

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    ---45 min--
    21 Feb 2024 #piersmorgan #israel #palestine
    'As pressure mounts on Israel to end the war in Gaza - with even Prince William today calling for an end to the fighting - Piers Morgan Uncensored invites two of our most passionate contributors to debate the topic, Jewish scholar Dr Norman Finkelstein and Rabbi Shmuley.'

    00:00 Introduction
    1:34 Where are we in this war?
    3:41 Rabbi Shmuley attacks Norman Finkelstein
    6:40 Is Israel committing genocide?
    8:19 Finkelstein fights back
    11:09 The ICJ and ‘Jewish dementia’ jibe
    13:27 "Many people don’t see an end game"
    16:10 "If Israel is so precise, why is it killing so many children?"
    17:43 What’s the cost of waging a war?
    24:55 Benjamin Netanyahu - when will it be ‘mission accomplished’?
    29:02 "Do you think Hamas should still be in power?"
    39:57 "It doesn’t mean he doesn’t believe what he says!"

    Editor’s note: This debate contains personal accusations about Professor Finkelstein’s prior comments on his parents. They were made in an interview on Piers Morgan Uncensored, and you can view them in full here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Sh-...

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    BOTH videos are fake!!
    The first one looked very real! But this is a genuine photo of the Rubymar taken yesterday, published by the BBC. It's very low in the water, for sure, but it hasn't actually sunk yet.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    But this is a genuine photo of the Rubymar taken yesterday, published by the BBC. It's very low in the water, for sure, but it hasn't actually sunk yet.

    Taking this to be the case, one notices no evident damage.

    As if it were one small shot that got a good hit at the waterline.

    My guess would be that is like fighting with Katyushas and they hope something like this will happen every once in a while. To civilians and insurance companies, that is probably "proof of concept" enough.

    Doesn't look like the propaganda poster yet. But it does count as a casualty.

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    Isn't there something the rest of the world do to stop this slaughter? Israelis have gone mad, and they have nukes. So, perhaps a total embargo and blockade on Israel from all sides. And a ban on all military supplies for the next 20 years, at least. Other ideas?

    My suggestion is surrender to Syria.

    Of course, any state could declare war on Israel. It has no allies. There is no such thing as a defense pact to trigger.

    Syrian apartment today thanks to Israeli Air Force:










    Two associated deaths.



    Plenty of Israelis don't think this works:



    Quote Yigal Slovik, former IOF infantry officer, said that Hamas is structurally composed of small groups of fighters who independently fight against the army troops, adding that this would last for a long time.

    Uhad Himo, a Zionist military analyst, indicated that he would not imagine Hamas commander Yahya Al-Sinwar abandoning Gaza, adding that the Israeli occupation forces have managed to kill only one out of five Hamas commanders in the Strip despite all destructive offensive there.

    Rami Igra, the former Mossad official, expected that Al-Sinwar would remain in Gaza till the end of the war due to his character and for the sake of his followers, adding that he Hamas leader in Gaza would not repeat what Arafat did when left Beirut.

    On the other hand, the conflict between the Israeli minister of finance Bezalel Smotrich and the families of the Israeli detainees in Gaza was deepened in light of his remarks in which he said this issued is not a priority for the Israeli government.

    A father of a female soldier detained in Gaza addressed Smotrich during a protest: “Send your children to Gaza, and I will say this issue is not important.

    It would be like asking Ukraine to be nice. There isn't anything you can do besides attack it.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    But this is a genuine photo of the Rubymar taken yesterday, published by the BBC. It's very low in the water, for sure, but it hasn't actually sunk yet.
    Taking this to be the case, one notices no evident damage.

    As if it were one small shot that got a good hit at the waterline.

    My guess would be that is like fighting with Katyushas and they hope something like this will happen every once in a while. To civilians and insurance companies, that is probably "proof of concept" enough.

    Doesn't look like the propaganda poster yet. But it does count as a casualty.
    Yes, much of this is about insurance. Ships taking the risk of passing through to and from Suez, even if they're 95% likely to be unharmed, would not be insured, and that's not a decision most shipping owners would be willing to take.

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    --11 min--22 Feb 2024 #TheJimmyDoreShow
    During a recent concert, U2’s Bono exposed himself as a full-blown establishment-fluffing warmonger by declaring his support for Alexei Navalny and repurposing the song “Pride (In the Name of Love)” as a paean to the concert-goers attacked on October 7th.

    Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss Rogers Waters’ savage takedown of Bono’s pro-war propaganda.

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    China Counters US Point By Point At ICJ | Israel’s Occupation Of Palestine | Dawn News English
    --27 min--22 Feb 2024 #china #palestine #gaza
    Ma Xinmin, a Chinese Foreign Ministry legal adviser, reaffirmed China's unwavering support at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for the Palestinian people's quest to reclaim their legitimate rights. Chinese President Xi Jinping has reiterated the call for a comprehensive ceasefire and the swift resolution of the Palestinian issue based on a negotiated two-state solution.

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    One Israeli killed in attack in occupied West Bank

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    ---3 min-- 22 Feb 2024
    “When the West talks about everything, it’s liberal, secular, democratic. Only when it comes to Israel, it’s biblical.”

    During an interview with the BBC aired on 16 February, Egyptian-American comedian Bassem Youssef criticised the West’s support for Israel and emphasised that as an American citizen he wants US President Joe Biden to lose the 2024 presidential election over his pro-Israel policies and refusal to end the war on Gaza.

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    Rendez-vous:


    Quote The Yemeni military spokesman announced Thursday in a statement that Yemen’s armed forces carried out three major operations in support of the oppressed Palestinian people in Gaza and response to the American-British aggression against Yemen.

    The Yemeni forces fired drones and ballistic missiles at various Zionist targets in the occupied Palestinian city of Eilat (Umm al-Rashrash), General Yahya Sarea said.

    General Sarea added that the Yemeni navy struck a British ship (Islandra) in the Gulf of Aden with naval missiles which hit it directly and set it ablaze.

    The Yemeni military statement indicated that the third operation targeted an American destroyer in the Red Sea with a number of drones.

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    Thank you Krystal... thank you for the factual REPORTING!!!!!

    'KILL THEM ALL': Republican Calls For Exterminating Gaza Kids

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    Zbigniew Brzezinski once wrote that, from a U.S. standpoint, "the most dangerous scenario would be a grand coalition of China, Russia and perhaps Iran, an ‘anti-hegemonic’ coalition, united not by ideology but by complementary grievances."

    He didn't think big enough. What we're seeing slowly materialize is a grand coalition of China, Russia and the entire Muslim world, whose people are united like never before by anti-West grievances. Together with countries like Brazil or South Africa. And frankly, deservedly so, as a result of the West's unbelievable hubris and insane double standards.

    Which is why all the news around China being supposedly in a fight against Islam should make you burst out laughing. These news are a symptom of Western hubris, of their unbelievable ability to lie to themselves and gaslight their people, but in no way a reflection of anything resembling reality.

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    This is quite extraordinary: https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/s...416265/video/1

    This is Ma Xinmin, China's Foreign Ministry's legal adviser, speaking on behalf of China, saying at the ICJ today that Israel is a colonizer and that the Palestinians have a right to resistance under international law, "including armed struggle", which he "in this context, is distinguished from acts of terrorism".

    Here is the exact quote (after the quote I'll link to all the legal texts he refers to):

    "The UNGA resolution 3070 of 1973, I quote ‘reaffirms the legitimacy of the peoples' struggle for liberation from colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation by all available means, including armed struggle’.

    This recognition is also reflected in international conventions. For example, the Arab Convention For The Suppression Of Terrorism of 1998, affirms, I quote: ‘the right of peoples to combat foreign occupation and aggression by whatever means, including armed struggle, in order to liberate their territories and secure their right to self-determination and independence’.

    Armed struggle, in this context, is distinguished from acts of terrorism. It is granted in international law, this distinction is acknowledged by several international conventions. For example, article 3 of the OAU Convention on the Prevention and Combating of Terrorism of 1999 provides that, I quote: ‘the struggle waged by peoples in accordance with the principles of international law for their liberation or self-determination, including armed struggle against colonialism, occupation, aggression and domination by foreign forces shall not be considered as terrorist acts’.”

    - UNGA resolution 3070 of 1973: https://refworld.org/legal/resolution/unga/1973/en/9606
    - Arab Convention For The Suppression Of Terrorism of 1998: https://unodc.org/images/tldb-f/conv...rrorism.en.pdf
    - OAU Convention on the Prevention and Combating of Terrorism of 1999: https://treaties.un.org/doc/db/terro...au-english.pdf


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