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    Default Spook Spirituality - modern spirituality is a mechanism of population control, more-so than traditional religion

    The Establishment has become extremely dominant in the world now; far more thoroughly than ever in the past - because of the mass and social media, globalization, and the way that the leadership class (of all major social institutions) is now enlisted in the leftist-project.



    Everybody knows - because it has been going on for centuries, indeed millennia - that the ruling class uses religion to control populations. But because religion had an ultimate reference outside of this world and the material realm, this limited the way it could be used.

    Nowadays religion has been replaced as a tool-of-control by a materialist, this-worldly, secular ideology ("leftism" in its various and evolving manifestations) - which substantially (not entirely) encompasses the leadership class of the whole world.

    And ideology - in contrast to religion - is this-worldly, materialist, lacks reference to anything else - and therefore there is no limit to the usage to which ideology can be put by the rulers.



    Of course; religions and churches still exist, but it seems perfectly clear that all of these (at least, those with significant size, power, wealth etc.) are incorporated into the mainstream leftist ideology; and are on-board with the materialist-this-worldly agenda in its essentials.

    It is much less well appreciated that the same applies to 'spirituality'.



    Looking back over the Western spirituality movement - which goes back to the late 19th century - one can see the fingerprints of the Establishment with respect to many of the key, influential individuals and 'movements'.

    I have described how the introduction of "Eastern" religion and spirituality of a oneness type has been promoted officially - presumably due to its complementarity with the materialist-this-world core agenda. Much the same can be said of the (indirect but effective) promotion of drugs for spiritual usage in the 1950s and 60s; 'countercultural' lifestyles, pop and rock music, sexual promiscuity and 'experiment, and the New Age...

    By my judgment; it has been sufficiently documented that all the above was - covertly but consistently - supported by Establishment elements; and was involved with intelligence/ spying/ "spooks" - through tools such as class and family connections, covert influence on the mass media, selective subsidies or harassment - etc.



    I think there is insufficient awareness of the way that spirituality movements, teachings, lifestyles; have-been and are manipulated; in a way that is highly analogous to the way 'institutional religion' was controlled by the ruling class in earlier centuries - and that this continues.

    This is masked by the false assumption that spirituality is 'purer' than religion - and intrinsically anti-Establishment, individualistic etc; yet that is clearly not the case in the sense that the 'spiritual' people are a very homogenous group in terms of their affiliation to the officially-promoted side in the major social-cultural-political issues of these times: egalitarianism, feminism, antiracism, diversity, climate-based environmentalism, the sexual revolution and so forth.

    Indeed, the control of spiritual movements is so effective that this is invisible to those concerned. The pressures applied are so deep and pervasive as to seem like natural phenomena, forces of nature!



    The exact same people who subscribe to the globalist establishment agenda (on an almost point-by-point basis) therefore also and simultaneously regard themselves as radicals and rebels; fighting government, big corporations, officialdom etc!

    Consequently; the very same people (and institutions) who are most feted as leaders of the counter-culture, 'alternative' lifestyles, spiritual detachment, un-worldliness; those who pride themselves on their bold stances against authority! - are exactly those most likely to be agents, tools or dupes of the Establishment "Spook Agenda"!

    The evidence is there, easily seen - in terms of background, affiliations, core beliefs; and the fact of high levels of mainstream public attention, esteem markers and and status - but such evidence makes no difference without the framework of assumptions that allow it to be interpreted as such.



    My take-home point is that while 'everybody' has encountered the idea that church religion can be (and has been) used by the ruling classes as a mechanism for mind-control; the same also applies to 20th and 21st century form of spirituality.

    And the obvious way in which apparently religious leaders (at many hierarchical levels) could actually be agents, tools or dupes for a socio-political agenda - is mirrored by the supposedly rebellious, radical, counter-cultural, alternative, spiritual leaders and 'influencers' of today.

    It is real, it happens, it is all around us; and the chances are that you are, or have-been - like me - (whether wittingly, to various degrees - or unconsciously) significantly involved in "the spook agenda" yourselves.
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    Default Re: Spook Spirituality - modern spirituality is a mechanism of population control, more-so than traditional religion

    Considering everything a conspiracy is equally delusional as mocking all conspiracies. Modern spirituality has become a pop phenomenon for sure. When quantity increases and the masses are getting involved, quality always drops. That doesn't negate the fact that this is a massive awakening period.

    Sure there are infiltrated agents trying to influence the energies, but the wave of the current spiritual transformation is much bigger. That includes social media channels with teenagers who talk about crystals and makeup as well as unknown to the world spiritual shadow work groups, eco-communities being developed and people experiencing huge internal shifts individually, things that you'll never see in a any social media comment.

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    Default Re: Spook Spirituality - modern spirituality is a mechanism of population control, more-so than traditional religion

    It is certainly true that ANY movement (spiritual and otherwise) gets commercialised, abused, 'medialized' and often co-opted by the Elite power groups.

    Therefore I always would insist that 'spirituality' (btw, don't like the word due to its inflationary use and even ab-use - I call it 'metaphysics') is a private and personal thing, and only that.

    It's between 'YOU' and .. ('your') God, Universe, Consciousness, the Higher Self, 'your' Guides, Angels, Power Animals, All-That-Is, Prime Creator, The Big Holographic Quantum Computer ... or whatever floats your boat.

    That's why I stay away from any 'movement' just instinctively.

    This being said, well, I DO meet (online only) with like-minded people who have same or similar (spiritual, reality, metaphysical, psychic, whatever) experiences like me (e.g. in Astral Projection / OBE forums) but this is not a cult or anything just a 'practice' and experience form. It is comparable to Avalon where I also meet a lot of like-minded people. There is nothing wrong with that for me.

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    Default Re: Spook Spirituality - modern spirituality is a mechanism of population control, more-so than traditional religion

    Woke is nothing more than like-minded people on any subject. If (A) disagree with the prevailing opinion (BB) on something like the Palestine-Israeli dilemma than that prevailing group (BB) would most likely label (A) “ignorant/ not woke”. Least forgotten that there is a whole world/ group (AA) which prevailing opinion is contra. Should (B) enter (AA) then (B) would be labeled “ignorant/ not woke”.
    All labels are control devices within the prevailing group (AA-BB). It goes back to this need to belong (safety in numbers), to be part of something greater than self (purpose). The prevailing group will pound woke-ness/ its truth into (A-B), expel, or isolate/ censor.

    Imagine an alien world (CC) where ALL human ideology (A-B) is considered “ignorant/ not woke”? What would (A-B) do if (A-B) were stuck on such a planet where self-preservation held sway? That is right, (A-B) would adopt/ adapt/ put-on (CC) woke-ness or die by a thousand cuts.

    Checkmate.
    Knock Knock

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