Israel and Iran in conflict

[Ravenlocke]

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Details of Putin's meeting with Russian ministers and Iranian Ambassador to Russia Kazem Jalali after the crash of the Iranian president's helicopter, quoted by IRNA news agency:

🔶 The meeting started at 10:00 pm and was attended by top Russian defence and security officials.

🔶 The meeting was attended by Defence Minister Andrei Belousov, Secretary of the Security Council Sergei Shoigu, Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov, Emergencies Ministry head Alexander Kurenkov, and Special Assistant to the President Igor Levitin.

🔶 Putin said he was deeply saddened by the crash of the Iranian president's helicopter and that the Russian side would do everything necessary to help.

🔶 The Russian president also said that 2 planes with 50 specialists ready to start the search operation have been prepared.

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1792335245166977109

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792342677729751549

[Ravenlocke]

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BREAKING: LOCATION OF THERMAL POINT DETECTED IN SEARCH FOR IRANIAN PRESIDENT'S HELICOPTER

The coordinates of a thermal point detected during the search efforts have been disclosed.

This point is located in the middle of a mountain forest, approximately three kilometers northeast of a village named Tawal.

This discovery marks a significant development in the ongoing search for the helicopter carrying Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi.

Efforts are likely intensifying around this area to confirm the wreckage's presence and coordinate rescue operations.

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792357336658395150

https://x.com/anadoluagency/status/1792348729858768951

[kaiserschmarrn]

from https://www.aljazeera.com/

‘If Raisi is dead, the world is now a safer’ place: US senator

Rick Scott, a key Republican lawmaker, appears to welcome the Iranian president’s crash.

“He was not loved or respected & he will be missed by no one,” Scott said of Raisi in a social media post. “If he’s gone, I truly hope the Iranian people have the chance to take their country back from murderous dictators.”

His comments stand in stark contrast with the numerous foreign officials and countries expressing concern for Raisi’s safety, including many US allies in the Middle East.

although i think this is probably true, i don't think it's wise to speak out like this in international politics. the conflict with the west could escalate again at any time and i have no desire for a ww3

[Ravenlocke]

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Location of President's Helicopter Accident Identified

Military officials have pinpointed the location of the helicopter accident involving #Iran's President Ebrahim #Raisi in East Azerbaijan, raising hopes for a successful rescue.
"A signal was received a few minutes ago from the helicopter and the mobile phone of one of the crew members at the accident site," the IRGC commander of the East Azerbaijan stated.
"Currently, all military forces are heading to the specified area, and we hope to bring good news to the people."
He added that 30 percent of military forces are already in the area, with no capacity to deploy more personnel.

https://x.com/Tasnimnews_EN/status/1792279505211363606

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BREAKING: POSSIBLE CRASH SITE OF PRESIDENT RAISI'S HELICOPTER IDENTIFIED

According to a report from Tasnim's reporter in the crisis headquarters at Mes Songon, the potential location of the crash involving Iranian President Raisi's helicopter has been identified near Taywil village.

Following these findings, several operational teams, including armed forces, the Red Crescent, and local volunteers, are currently en route to the village to investigate and confirm details about the president's helicopter.

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792360845617315905

[norman]

https://t.me/RTnews_unc3/30092

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792420196902150491

https://x.com/dana916/status/1792396277596278902

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BREAKING: THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO DIED ALONG WITH IRANIAN PRESIDENT RAISI IN HELICOPTER CRASH

1- Ayatollah Seyyed Ebrahim Rais al-Sadati
2- Ayatollah Seyyed Muhammad Ali Al-Hashem
3- Dr. Hossein Amirabdollahian
4- Dr. Malik Rahmati
5- Sardar Seyed Mehdi Mousavi
6- An Ansar al-Mahdi Corps (identity unknown)
7- Pilot (unknown identity)
8- The pilot's help, unknown identity)
9-Kruchev (unknown identity)

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792406301378535829

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792405521804452098

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BREAKING: IRAN VICE PRESIDENT MUHAMMAD MUKHBAR SET TO TAKE OVER AS PRESIDENT AFTER DEATH OF PRESIDENT RAISI

This is pending the approval of the Supreme Leader, following the death of Ebrahim Raisi in a helicopter crash, with the constitution stipulating a new president must be elected within 50 days.

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792399358090006786

[Ravenlocke]

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Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi Martyred in Helicopter Crash

#Iranian President Ebrahim #Raisi martyred in a helicopter crash in the Varzaqan region of East Azerbaijan province.

Raisi was accompanied by Ayatollah Mohammad Ali Al-Hashem, the Friday Imam of Tabriz, Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian, and East Azerbaijan Governor Malek Rahmati, who also martyred in the crash.

The Incident occurred after a ceremony marking the inauguration of the Qiz Qalasi Dam, attended by Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev.

Other victims included Maj. Gen. Seyed Mehdi Mousavi, head of the president’s security team, a member of the Ansar al-Mahdi Corps, the helicopter pilot and co-pilot, and a technician.

https://x.com/Tasnimnews_EN/status/1792426983797723233

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792437926443286903

[Ravenlocke]

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BREAKING: MEMORIAL VIDEO OF IRAN PRESIDENT RAISI RELEASED BY TASMIN TV

“The president who remained in history with his martyrdom.

Life with the Lord is the end point of humanity's ascension, which can only be achieved through martyrdom (Shaheed Avini).

Ayatollah Raisi, the popular president, was martyred in a helicopter crash along with a group of friends.

Tasnim news agency expresses its condolences to the Supreme Leader, the family of the martyrs, and the honorable people of Iran for this painful loss.”

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792426730537267546

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[norman]

Look very very closely for bullet holes in the tops of their heads.

Ron Brown, 'died in a plane crash' in Croatia in April 1996, then later found to have been shot in the top of his head.

In a case of assassination, a crash is media cover for an assassination, if not the murder weapon.

Iran admitted having indirect talks with 'the US' days earlier.

[Ravenlocke]

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Tsargrad: The assassination was “organized at the highest level.” An “excruciating death” is a signal to Russia and China. “They are killing everyone who supports Russia and China.” — sources

It is reported that local authorities promptly sent 8 ambulances to the site of the alleged crash. Earlier, the IRIB TV channel reported that the situation is seriously complicated by weather conditions, which prevents rescuers from reaching the scene of the incident, said Tsargrad columnist Ilya Golovnev.

According to the latest information, the location of the helicopter of Iranian President Raisi was found, rescuers are approaching the scene. This is reported by Press TV.

Immediately after the incident, Israel was quick to deny its participation in the crash of the helicopter, on board which was Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi and the head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry. Earlier in the Arab media, there was a version that the crash of the helicopter was an attempted assassination of Raisi, carried out as a result of sabotage by Israeli security services in collusion with Azerbaijan, with whose leader the Iranian leader had met not long before the crash.

Azerbaijan is a latent ally of Israel. If it turns out that Raisi was killed, all this will end in a big Transcaucasian war,

- says war correspondent Alexei Zhivov.

Ayatollah Al-Hashem, the governor of Eastern Azerbaijan, was also present in the helicopter. According to some reports, the vehicle made a hard landing near the village of Uzi. The area is inaccessible, making it extremely difficult for rescue services to operate.

The Mehr publication initially reported that Raisi was alive, but the news was hastily deleted afterward. Later, the US publication Politico wrote that the incident involving the Iranian president is “serious” and “there is a high probability of injuries.”

The Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA) also reported that “some unofficial sources say that some companions of the Iranian president died an agonizing death” at the crash site.

Assassination versions

At the same time, a security source in Iran believes the helicopter may have been shot down:

“This puts us in front of a very serious and dangerous security event. We are facing the possibility of a “major assassination attempt” or an actual assassination.

Political scientist Sergei Markov points out that if it is indeed a terrorist attack, Israel could be behind it. It could also be radical Sunni Islamic groups. And, of course, there is always a threat of a terrorist attack from the three main terrorist organizations in the world: ISIS*, the SBU, and the Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s GUR. For all of them, Iran is an enemy.

In turn, US officials believe that Iranian President Raisi has been assassinated. Biden was informed about the situation with the helicopter. A short time later, journalist Arash Azizi published an article for The Atlantic, where he also claimed that his sources had reported the death of the Iranian president.

If so, we should remember who killed IRGC General Qassem Suleimani. And it was done by the US,

- reminded military blogger Sergei Kolyasnikov.

He also recalled a series of “coincidences” that have occurred recently: on May 15, 2024, an assassination attempt on Robert Fico; on May 15, 2024, media reports about the prevention of a plot to overthrow President Recep Erdogan in Turkey; on May 16, 2024, Serbian police in the north of the country detained a man for threatening President Aleksandar Vucic; on May 19, 2024, a helicopter crash with Iranian President Ibrahim Raisi and the Foreign Minister. And the assassinations of General Suleimani and IRGC generals during an Israeli strike on the Iranian Consulate General.

The US and UK have opened a new chapter of terror in their history. All pro-Russian and pro-China politicians in the West should double their caution and security,

- writes Kolyasnikov.

Chinese scholar Nikolai Vavilov holds a similar opinion:

They have moved to the last stage - they are killing everyone who supports Russia and China, apparently, things are not good at all and the failure of the West’s strategy after Putin’s visit to China has become as obvious as possible.

https://x.com/apocalypseos/status/1792390768159842579

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Miller (here)
But of course the Iranian President might still be alive.

More speculation here. A sudden drop to the ground would be unlikely to kill anyone, though there could maybe be spinal injuries or a couple of broken bones or bad sprains.

But then the problem becomes hypothermia. The crashed heli would provide some protection from the elements, but in rain and wind turning to snow, and as night fell and mountain temperatures plummeted anyway, it might be tough for the 63-year old President to make it through if he wasn't in pretty good shape mentally and physically.

Edit to add, now the helicopter and badly burned bodies have been found:
It was clearly a crash, not a so-called 'hard landing', which no-one survived. It wasn't a 'sudden drop to the ground' at all. The heli just flew straight into the mountainside.

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting statement from Israel, if this is authentic.
(Why should the 'Israeli official' be anonymous, and this statement be 'unofficial'?)

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/111070

The text:

Israel was not involved in Raisi's death, an Israeli official told Reuters
Israel unofficially stated that it was not involved in the death of the Iranian president.
“It wasn’t us,” an Israeli official told Reuters anonymously.

[norman]

I'll stick with the hard landing for now. Presumably that phrase came from the pilot while it was going down.

I saw an aerial image last night of dark streaks radiating out from the craft on the ground. That could be from an explosion on impact of the craft or it could be a special ops team clearing up evidence that they had been there to make sure all were dead and if not to do the job themselves.

I'm not saying that IS what happened but the jury should stay out for now.

I'm especially waiting for audio from the pilot, if we can get a straight unedited version.

[Bill Ryan]

As a possibly interesting provisional commentary, Alastair Crooke, one of the most intelligent and insightful analysts that we have, tells Judge Napolitano in the first few minutes of the livestream below that there are still a number of unexplained factors in this incident.

Just one of those was that the heli was almost completely destroyed, unlike many photos we've seen from Ukraine where helis were shot down but are seen still pretty much intact despite explosions or fire. He wisely states that forensics will reveal much more, and of course the highly experienced and capable Russians will be assisting with that.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gm77pukdwyY

[grapevine]

Like a bomb on board? When it was reported that they were hideously burned it crossed my mind, and everyone else's no doubt . . .

As for the Israelis' denial, they tell so many lies all the time that anything they say has no conviction at all . . .

[norman]

Posted by Miller (here)

As for the Israelis' denial, they tell so many lies all the time that anything they say has no conviction at all . . .

My theory goes way beyond Israel. I can't really spell it out yet because I need to know a few facts about the people on board, Firstly, how long had the leader been in office. If he and the people around him were part of the switch of power control at the political level in Iran in 2013-14 my theory begins to stack up.

my conspiracy theory

Simply(ish) put, there was a massive change of power landscape in the middle east in 2013. Trump's rage about that Iran deal, which was done over Obama's head and over the heads of the Trilateral Commission/Council on foreign relations and over the heads of the leaders in Israel even, could mean the controllers of the fake Biden regime are the so called 'white hats' who are finally kicking out the Brit/Rothschild controlled political administration in Iran ( in cahoots with the religious leadership who were tricked in 2013 ) so that a proper peace deal in line with the general 'white hat' plan can go ahead and get the full takedown of the global deep state done.

[bojancan]

It's fake or not... interesting video....
Not Accident, Assassination! Iran President's Helicopter Found! Pilot Turned out to be Israeli Agent

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QuUZrvTTIN4