Hurricane Helene

[mountain_jim]

Just want to add my deep appreciation to Ravenlocke for the huge effort in contributions to this informative thread, as the MSM has not been particularly helpful in communicating what all has happened and information that we in the middle of this still need to know about.

Will add this link to find out what post offices are not functioning as we are not sure of ours but it may not have been able to report status yet.

https://about.usps.com/newsroom/serv...al/welcome.htm

This valuable link for road closure information in North Carolina (as we plan for when/where we can go out for gas or food and supplies)

https://drivenc.gov/


emergency fuel availability tracker (which does not seem to be working for my area at moment)

https://tracker.gasbuddy.com/?_ga=2....248.1727714619

[Harmony]

David Dubyne, from adapt 2030 lives in East Tennessee, has some interesting videos and maybe will keep updating in some of the flooded areas. I'll put the link here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-5...zHIdNCs7-bEdCA

[Jaak]

Saw some interesting conspiracy theory that this hurricane and toxic fire at Conyers could have been planned to force people out from the area so they could start to dig lithium in that region. Interesting if true . Aftermath of Maui fires showed that government wasnt interested of helping people but Blackrock was very much interested to buy up a lot of land in that area... I guess we will see what comes out of it.

[Abondance]

Posted by Jaak (here)
Saw some interesting conspiracy theory that this hurricane and toxic fire at Conyers could have been planned to force people out from the area so they could start to dig lithium in that region. Interesting if true . Aftermath of Maui fires showed that government wasnt interested of helping people but Blackrock was very much interested to buy up a lot of land in that area... I guess we will see what comes out of it.

If so, they shot themselves in the foot, because the indispensable mines of Spruce Pine, which provides high quality quartz worldwide, are largely impacted by the damage of the surrounding roads...


"A 2018 note from Wired shows just how critical Spruce Pines area mines are for semiconductor production: "A fire in 2008 at one of the main quartz facilities in Spruce Pine for a time all but shut off the supply of high‑purity quartz to the world market, sending shivers through the industry."

Earlier this year, Tom's Hardware cited Mollick's X posts, saying the Wharton professor "provides an excerpt from Conway's Material World, which discusses the probable "end of computer chip manufacture as we know it," should something untoward happen at Spruce Pine or in the skies above it." "


https://www.zerohedge.com/commoditie...lapsed-bridges

[Ravenlocke]

“ Just want to add my deep appreciation to Ravenlocke for the huge effort in contributions to this informative thread, as the MSM has not been particularly helpful in communicating what all has happened and information that we in the middle of this still need to know about.”[/B]

You are welcome Mountain Jim, I hope you and your family are coping as best you can. I hope you have enough supplies to get you through this disaster. I am very sorry for all the people that have to go through this and for those who have already lost loved ones and those still waiting to find out any news about their loved ones. The news media is not covering this, very sad. I just wanted to help in some way… I will try to provide updates as I find them and as time permits. Ravenlocke

I keep all of you affected by this disaster in my prayers and hope youre all safe.


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I need people to understand something with the news coverage regarding effects of hurricane Helene. There is a lot more to the NC Mountains than Asheville.
Boone, Blowing Rock, Banner Elk, Vilas, Sugar Grove, Elk Park, West Jefferson, Black Mountain, Swannanoa, Sylva, Cullowhee, Brevard, Bryson City, Hendersonville, Cherokee, Waynesville, Burnsville, Candler, Canton, Spruce Pine, Chimney Rock, Lake Lure, Linville, Marshall, Maggie Valley, Newland, Grandfather, Beech Mountain, Sugar Mountain, Old Fort, Morganton, Marion are just a few of the cities and towns that have been flooded and/or destroyed. The counties of Yancey, Mitchell, Avery, Ashe, Watauga, Transylvania, Burke, Caldwell, Alleghany, Madison, Buncombe, McDowell, Rutherford, Polk, Henderson, Wilkes, Haywood, Jackson, Macon, Clay, Cherokee, and Swain are devastated and in need of the same help, some even more.
Other counties that fall under various definitions of Western North Carolina include: Alexander County, Catawba County, Cleveland County, Surry County and Yadkin County. When these counties are added, they form a total regional area of roughly 11,750 square miles (30,400 km2).
This makes the region roughly the size of Massachusetts. Western North Carolina holds 11% of our state's population.
There are millions of people up there with no electricity, no communication, no water, and no way to get out or let rescue teams even know where they are. I am not taking anything away from Asheville and the utter destruction there or any other areas in NC that have damage. The level of destruction is unimaginable. But it's not one or two cities or towns that are in need of help.
This does not include the destroyed areas in the Tennessee mountains, Western Virginia, Georgia, or South Carolina.
Please do 2 things for me:
1. Donate to Operation Airdrop, Samaritan’s Purse, or Fleet of Angels (or all 3!)
2. Contact news media to get coverage for ALL of Western North Carolina. People need to know the full scope of this disaster so that more people can get desperately needed help. And so more people can be located because a lot of us have loved ones up there and we don't know if they're dead or alive.
These are our homes. These are places we raise our families. These are communities I work in on a daily basis. My heart breaks for everyone involved.

https://x.com/dhruv2038/status/1840562075371704349

https://x.com/TejasKat/status/1840593910634086441

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dhruv2038/status/1840671595385217251

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...ik/mobilebasic

Asheville/WNC Resources
Updated 9/30/24
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Map of Resources
Water
Wifi/Cell Service
Service
Starlink Stations for Public Use
Food
Gas (assume cash only, changing rapidly)
EV Charging
Using an EV as a generator
Groceries
Propane
General Supplies
Shelters - find full county by county list here
Search and Rescue: 2-1-1 AND/OR text 40403 “PERSON” (you will potentially be put on hold calling 211 and then they will tell you to text) or visit NC 211's website: https://rdcrss.org/3rqObG1.
Bus Service
Highways
Where to get info
Alerts and signups
Updates & News
Emergency Information Sources
ATMs
Curfew
Other
Where to Apply for Disaster Assistance
Resource Drop Off Requests
Map of Resources
Crowdsourced map of resources (different owner)
Water
GENERAL
City of Asheville announced a water distribution point at Pack Square Park starting at 1pm and going until dark or until supply runs out. Water allowance is one gallon per person with a max of five gallons per family. Must bring your own container. Distribution site is walk-up only with assistance available for those who cannot carry water back to their cars (source, Blue Ridge Public Radio, posted 1:20 pm 9/30)
Buncombe County will start distributing water starting at 2 p.m. today, Monday, Sept. 30. A one-day supply of bottled water will be available for each individual in a household, with distribution sites operating as drive-through locations, but walk-ups will be accommodated.The locations are:
William W. Estes Elementary School - 275 Overlook Road, Asheville
Sand Hill Elementary - 154 Sand Hill School Road, Asheville (Please enter via Acton Circle)
North Windy Ridge Intermediate School - 20 Doan Road, Weaverville
Fairview Elementary School - 1355 Charlotte Highway, Fairview
HOW TO ACCESS WATER FROM WATER HEATER (still needs to be boiled, may need to be filtered)
Harris Teeter giving away water (unsure if location specific)
The City’s guesstimation is that it will take several weeks to restore service (mid-to-late October)
Some South Asheville residents have water
But this might be disrupted again. Recommendation is to fill bathtubs and other large containers to store water.
It needs to be boiled
CENTRAL/DOWNTOWN
City of Asheville announced a water distribution point at Pack Square Park starting at 1pm and going until dark or until supply runs out. Water allowance is one gallon per person with a max of five gallons per family. Must bring your own container. Distribution site is walk-up only with assistance available for those who cannot carry water back to their cars (source, Blue Ridge Public Radio, posted 1:20 pm 9/30)
Mission Hospital is providing free potable water 509 Biltmore Ave
Dssolvr Brewery
Dssolvr is out of water as of Sept. 29th @ 6pm
Asheville mall 3 S Tunnel Rd, Asheville, NC 28805 - water and other supplies restocked as of 7pm 9/29, more on the way - likely to continue to be restocked even if they go out - next drop is 9am on 9/30
382 South French Broad River - water available
AB Tech
WEST
Lowe’s on Smoky Park has water 95 Smokey Park Hwy, Asheville, NC 28806 - 1 case, 1 gallon person
Sam's Club is giving out free water-no longer doing this
Home Depot - Enka area- Sunday Sept 29
Fresh spring water 16 Runyon Drive, Leicester - 808-729-4683 Nica
Alkaline (Filtered) We I’ll ll Water - Oasis Market in Leicester ( 2645 New Leicester Hwy) 10am-6pm - Bring your own container preferred.
Stream water at Double Crown in wavl , 100 gallons, byo container while supplies last 375 Haywood Rd, Asheville, NC 28806
Sav Foods parking lot in Clyde (as of 9/29 @ 6:30pm)
Home Depot on 127 Acton Circle will have cases of water for sale 09/30 at 6AM
Canton Plaza New Clyde Highway will have a water tanker 9/30 8-6. 1 gallon per person per day, byo container
Pond at 91 Holbrook Rd Candler (Ross Farm) for flushing water. Byo buckets
Asheville Farmstead School 218 Morgan Cove Rd, Candler, NC 28715 will be open to families, and the community from 10-2 Tuesday (tomorrow) for families or community members who need water, a shower, or a space to let their kids play for a bit. Bring your water jugs and shower stuff! We hope we can help as many people as possible!
CANTON: Canton Plaza off of New Clyde Highway is giving away 1 gallon of water per person from 8-6pm (9/30)
NORTH
Jupiter Fire Department in Barnardsville - potable water
Publix Weaverville - 165 Weaver Boulevard Open. Have purified water for sale if you bring your own container
The Fresh Market - FREE bottled water 944 Merrimon Ave (DELAYED until 10am 9/30). Trucks are on their way but experiencing delays
Claxton Elementary School (241 Merrimon Avenue)
SOUTH
Publix on Hendersonville rd they said they may have a new shipment of water in today (9/29) 1830 Hendersonville Rd, Asheville, NC 28803
Ingles on airport rd was handing out free water and ice yesterday (9/28) 352 Airport Rd, Arden, NC 28704
Mills River Park 124 Town Center Dr, Mills River: FREE Water/ Food distribution 9/29 until 5pm
The Fresh Market parking lot at 1378 Hendersonville, Rd, Ashville, N.C. - bottled-water cases of 3 gallons being distributed drive-thru style from a box truck as of 9/30 11am
EAST
Pisgah brewing is filling jugs - 2948 US-70, Black Mountain, NC 28711-
Home Depot at fairview rd- out of water as of 1:30pm 9/30, but another truck may arrive “in the next few days”
Food/water/baby needs at the Asheville mall at 12:30pm 9/30
Spring at 231 N Carolina Terrace in Black Mountain
Davidson Oil NOT Harley Davidson that is handing out water. 116 Alexander Place Swannanoa, NC 28778
Black Mountain Swimming Pool at Lake Tomahawk Park: FREE WATER BRING YOUR OWN CONTAINER until 7pm 9/29
FREE WATER at INGLES 550 NC-9, Black Mountain
SURROUNDING AREAS
Hendersonville


The rest is here,
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...ik/mobilebasic

[Jaak]

Video shows some anomalies in the storm . Does seem that weather manipulation was going on again either to direct the storm or to add more power to it.

Asheville North Carolina Resident Says It’s Chaos After Hurricane Helene

He says looters are everywhere, people are vandalizing everywhere

“There were some truckers coming in with supplies and medical stuff trying to help us”, People slashed their tires at the rest stop

“The roads are completely blocked off. You're not getting out”

“If you have a weapon, keep it on you because, there are people intentionally sabotaging stuff.”

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/thinktankfranks/status...96360213188825

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1840813138481955202

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/thinktankfranks/status...84578641711549

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/thinktankfranks/status...34284341596409

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/TennesseeEMA/status/1840787135621718267

https://x.com/TNMilitaryDept/status/1840624265319629131

https://x.com/TennesseeEMA/status/1840605148285919478

https://x.com/TennesseeEMA/status/1840088246551761171

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/UltraMamaTee/status/1840409164201279563

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/RealAmVoice/status/1840819795018604986

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/SamaritansPurse/status...33388161089596

https://x.com/Franklin_Graham/status...92428612972546

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Nearly 100 dead. 600 missing.
Historic flooding continues.
Millions without power.

Catastrophic destruction extends from Florida north through Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia.

600 people still missing in Asheville, NC area.

Supplies continue to be airlifted in. Food and drinkable water are the priority.

Entire towns, like Chimney Rock, NC appear to have been washed away.

Officials saying among the worst floods to ever strike the US, similar to Katrina and Johnstown, PA.

More than 30 inches of rain fell in mountainous areas of North Carolina and Tennessee.

Nolichucky dam overtopped but held. TVA video attached.

Douglas dam released water at maximum rate to help clear water upriver. TVA video attached.

Source: Accuweather, TVA, Frontline Dispatch

https://x.com/DispatchChief/status/1840759686779265420

[shaberon]

Just as expected, I found that our local farm store is gathering stuff to send in. That is why I typically prefer small businesses, because someone can actually do something.

I don't know what I will find at our large corporation today. I would say we better maintain a steady stream of stuff at least until the affected are back on their feet. Outside of Asheville, those places are really remote, there will be considerable difficulty in making a comeback. The alternate scenario is literally what the federal government is terrified of, that it only takes a couple of days without supplies, and there will be looting and violence everywhere. It tends to make people dislike the government.

Concerning quartz, lithium, etc., this is basically correct, there is high-value mining starting from America's first gold rush in 1736, through various gems, up to this stuff for modern technologies. When I mentioned Alcoa, it wasn't by way of being polite, either, but kind of a dark chapter up until maybe around the 1960s, the kind of exploitation that could happen if for some reason similar forces attempt to hog the newer resources.

[Moemers]

out of curiosity and genuine interest...what would people like the federal government to do in this situation?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Moemers (here)
out of curiosity and genuine interest...what would people like the federal government to do in this situation?

Use honest taxpayers' money to do everything that private individuals are currently doing out of the sheer (uncompensated) goodness of their hearts.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Lovely_Day111/status/1840795716035260594

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/AppVoices/status/1840793583336468851

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/...y/75443803007/

Full scope of Helene devastation not clear as recovery underway: 'Our hearts are broken'
The rushing water rose five feet higher in the Swannanoa River than anyone had ever seen.

The ground disappeared on South Tunnel Road, leaving a giant sinkhole full of asphalt soup.

Houses floated away from subdivisions. Bridges crumbled. The flood waters flipped semi-trucks into mangled piles. Mud and tree branches and food from local grocery stores flowed into the streets.

Survivors traipsed through muck to find drinking water, power, wifi and cell service.

Gov. Roy Cooper called Tropical Storm Helene a "catastrophic" and "historic" event with "life-threatening floods and landslides."

The storm stretched from Florida across the southern United States, pounding the South with heavy rainfall and flash floods. But it was in Asheville and across Western North Carolina where the storm brought some of the greatest damage.


The rest here,

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/...y/75443803007/