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    Default Re: The Pacific Palisades and other fires burning

    Sue, I stand by my statements to Maggie. Her expressed suspicions of intrigue are different than your commendable care for your in-danger fam. I get that you care for a valued PA member, but you are off topic here.

    Wildfires have been with us forever. Often due to huge amounts of fuel left by then-standard forestry practices that left lots of “slash” across logged areas. I’ve seen burnt stumps in southern Ontario Canada, and read about those fires there that boiled people alive that sought refuge in the water car of their train stopped by fire.

    Am continuing watching Zeke on the other iPad, and at ~58:54 he comments on the space-lasers/George Soros theme/meme.

    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Delight, Maggie, I don’t understand your fear and your anger, but I wish you peace.
    Johnny, Some of us do have some fear and sadness. Like my own concern about our daughter and grandchild and other family members who were rushed to evacuate their homes. I'd say that yes, it can be a bit traumatic.



    ‘Nother edit, at 1:10:15, Zeke says he quit his day job yesterday. Putting everything into his Lookout presence, asks for support. If I had something valuable to say, I’d probably do those same things lol.

    More at 1:19:20 (/2:13:34), a general State of Things statement. To paraphrase, “We can’t make a difference, the fires have too much momentum”.
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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Sue, I stand by my statements to Maggie. Her expressed suspicions of intrigue are different than your commendable care for your in-danger fam. I get that you care for a valued PA member, but you are off topic here.
    Johnny, you don't get to tell an Avalon forum moderator that they're off-topic!


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    Dear Bill, Sue and I are pals, at least from my perspective. Whenever I disagree with her, I mean it only personally, as friendly advice. Nothing denigrating that noble offering of service as a moderator. I couldn’t do that job; she has more power than me.

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    A huge update on Zero Hedge.
    "Unprecedented Fires" Scorch 3,000 Acres In Los Angeles Area, Forcing 49,000 To Evacuate

    LA Fire Summary:
    • Fast-moving, wind-driven fires are sweeping through the Los Angeles area, forcing mandatory evacuations for over 49,000 residents. The fires remain 0% contained.
    • The Palisades Fire has burned nearly 3,000 acres, while the Eaton Fire has scorched 1,000 acres and the Hurst Fire has consumed 500 acres.
    • Gov. Gavin Newsom deployed 1,400 firefighters & declares state of emergency.
    • Nearly 300,000 residential and/or commercial customers are without power in the LA region.
    • NWS: Worst fire conditions (high winds) will peak Wednesday morning.
    • Malibu residents warned about potential evacuation.
    Update (0700ET):

    The Palisades, Eaton, and Hurst wildfires raging in Southern California show no signs of abating.



    The Los Angeles County Fire Department reported on X that nearly 3,000 acres—roughly 4.5 square miles—are ablaze, and the fire is 0% contained as of early Wednesday morning.

    https://x.com/LACoFDPIO/status/1876888860690428306

    According to PowerOutage.US, nearly 300,000 customers across the area are without power.



    California Gov. Gavin Newsom wrote on X that 1,400 firefighters have been delayed in the area to "combat these unprecedented fires."

    https://x.com/CIRA_CSU/status/1876879474039373892

    "Emergency officials, firefighters, and first responders are all hands on deck through the night to do everything possible to protect lives," Newsom said.

    https://x.com/CAgovernor/status/1876912809939714279

    Malibu City authorities have urged residents to leave immediately.

    https://x.com/CityMalibu/status/1876904464382087567

    Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass is nowhere to be found because she is attending the inauguration of Ghanaian President John Dramani Mahama in Accra, Ghana.

    Scenes of the inferno:

    https://x.com/SiaKordestani/status/1876845562328146405

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1876802351442358618

    https://x.com/KTLA/status/1876859370333429916

    https://x.com/DanHellie/status/1876863865612329127

    https://x.com/HeloGoldy/status/1876871494346703255

    Evil global warming?

    https://x.com/itsJohnRocker/status/1876855936884547602

    Or the homeless starting fires?

    * * *

    A brush fire that has spread to over 1,200 acres in Los Angeles amid a massive wind storm has prompted a mass evacuation in the upscale Pacific Palisades area on Tuesday.

    https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1876762503125803434

    "Evacuate now from the area of Palisades..." officials warned on X. "Those not in the evacuation area should shelter in place."

    https://x.com/NotifyLA/status/1876722387946725793

    The Palisades - home to numerous A-list celebrities, has roughly 9,400 homes and 27,000 residents. After the fire broke out, smoke plumes spread quickly toward structures and homes - including a large area of Topanga Canyon, tucked-away community with a single road in and out.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Scenes of the inferno:

    https://x.com/SiaKordestani/status/1876845562328146405
    That's terrifying, but also madness to stay put so long. I went searching for more on the poster and found this. 'Apparently' they did get out, and probably just in time.



    Edit: comments suggest this may not be the same people from the original video.
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    Delight, Maggie, I don’t understand your fear and your anger, but I wish you peace.
    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Dear Bill, Sue and I are pals, at least from my perspective. Whenever I disagree with her, I mean it only personally, as friendly advice. Nothing denigrating that noble offering of service as a moderator. I couldn’t do that job; she has more power than me.
    Quote Dear Bill, Sue and I are pals, at least from my perspective.
    Johnny, no doubt from your perspective you are pals. And you mean well. As I've stated in the past, I believe members have misunderstood your message.

    From my perspective, sometimes “Just the facts, ma’am” doesn’t cut it. Emotions are natural. It's suspect when someone steers others away from expressing how s/he feels. I often wonder if they take the time to investigate their reasoning.

    Kudos to those courageous enough to show vulnerability and express their humanity.

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    This is an explanation of the Santa Ana winds in California.

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    Quote The weather set-up is key to the Santa Ana winds blowing. They occur when a large area of high pressure becomes established over the interior of western US, centred around the Great Basin, which includes much of Nevada and parts of Utah, Idaho and south-east Oregon. These are generally dry, desert areas, which means the winds that arrive in California are lacking in moisture.

    With winds flowing clockwise around high pressure systems, they move south and west into southern California, where they descend over the inland Sierra mountains. As the air descends, it dries further and accelerates in speed. Wind speeds can increase further as they funnel through the valleys and gorges in the area, much like water increases its speed as it passes through a hose.

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    This morning at about 05:30 I could see an orange glow over the Santa Monica Mountains. Around 07:30 the winds dropped in intensity. The forecast was for 100 mph winds which is equivalent to a Cat-2 hurricane. Hopefully they'll be able to get air assets on the fires. This reminds me of the Aliso Canyon gas leak back in 2015-2016 where the population of Los Angeles literally teeters on complete destruction. This should be a reminder for people to create or double check your bug-out bags where you leave your home quickly.

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    Default Re: The Pacific Palisades and other fires burning

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    Sue, I stand by my statements to Maggie. Her expressed suspicions of intrigue are different than your commendable care for your in-danger fam. I get that you care for a valued PA member, but you are off topic here.
    Johnny, you don't get to tell an Avalon forum moderator that they're off-topic!

    Uh - The topic appears to be the "Pacific Palisades Fire", Johnny.
    Perhaps a new thread might be started called "Wildfires are Natural"?

    But in the meantime, a hugely populated area is being devastated as we speak. People are dealing with the gamut of emotions - worry, fear, sadness, trauma, and (maybe misplaced)anger. But that is natural, and human.

    This event will most assuredly have a gargantuan impact on all of the US. I can't imagine that all have escaped with no deaths (reports of which always make me emotional - "for whom the bell tolls" and all...)

    I was wondering myself how to start a thread, after being made aware of the developing situation yesterday, by starting to hear the panic while talking to my relatives yesterday. I am relieved to report that they all appear to be safe, although their homes may very well be destroyed, which will totally disrupt their lives, and I love them. I also worry about our fellow PA members who may be there. And friends.
    I am hoping to see more reports here on this thread from other members whose lives may be impacted by this still-in-progress situation.

    (but yes, I do consider you a friend, Johnny, as I honestly do with all the PA posting members. I also see your point - but I tend to explore all perspectives)
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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Delight, Maggie, I don’t understand your fear and your anger, but I wish you peace.
    Johnny, Some of us do have some fear and sadness. Like my own concern about our daughter and grandchild and other family members who were rushed to evacuate their homes. I'd say that yes, it can be a bit traumatic.


    Sue, I will keep praying that everyone experience miracles out of this experience.

    As to Johnny, Thanks, I do feel a deep peace. However, and I may be wrong, the firescape is not IMO a natural event. when I hear how NO ONE remebers this level of wind, when I KNOW geo-engineering is REAL and being used to clear the way for the "15 minute" cities, I see the usual playbook ramping up. When I hear that there was NO WATER for the fire in Palisades, All of this reminds me of the Maui fire. I also KNOW that weather manipulation was PROBABLE in Helene and other hurricanes.

    Convinced that this is not natural, I am FURIOUS. Maybe I am wrong?

    I am peaceful that God IS and with me and I marvel at that grace available. It is clear to me that individuals will be helped by this power when they ask. I am really disliking that I CAN NOT trust this is a natural occurrence. It makes me SICK at heart about what manner of horror people are bearing RIGHT NOW and I am angry that human hands are being used for utter destruction and hell on earth.

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    https://x.com/ChefGruel/status/1877059672135577671



    Update: Anyone who has left LA and headed south. You are welcome at our restaurant, 16600 Pacific Coast Highway, 92649. We have a large parking lot, you can stay as long as you need and camp out. We will provide free meals for all of those affected. If anyone has any coordination in process for meals, supplies, etc for LA, reach out to me, we will provide as much food to deliver and arrange supplies as well.

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    Part of this disaster seems to have been compounded by dry fire-hydrants and a general deficit of fire-fighting equipment. Who is to blame for that?

    Same old story if you ask me: misappropriation of funds., and corruption at the highest level.



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    “This is like a third world country… there is no water coming out of the fire hydrants. LA Mayor Karen Bass is on a foreign trip to Ghana.”

    https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1876994486330421632



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    FIRE: Eight years after California voters approved a $7.5 billion water bond to construct water storage facilities, not one project has reached completion. Meanwhile, untold millions of gallons of fresh snowmelt and rain continue to flow wastefully into the Pacific Ocean.

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    I've only just started watching this, but it's very clear it's relevant and right on the mark. At the start of his new weekly analysis video 'The Signal Hour', Chris Martenson spends 25 minutes looking at the catastrophic Palisades Fire situation, and joins a bunch of dots.


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    Climate change IS manipulated.


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    There is a very relavent segment on the Red Pill Project Daily Dose podcast happening now.

    One must seriously look at the deep motivation of Globaolists to destroy Los Angeles. The fires are Zero percent contained. The winds are still high and more small fires are appearing.


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v653bu1/?pub=4

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    "I want that real estate! Send the mayor out of town, hire a lesbian fire chief to promote diversity and inclusion and deflect the media, shut off the water, fly that puppet Biden in to shut down the air space and let 'er rip!" Too many coincidences. Lahaina on steroids.
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