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    Whaw ! . . was Adam Corolla exaggerating when he said he's never known winds like that in that area in 60 YEARS ! ? ( probably meaning in his whole life )

    If that's really true, I think we now know what's going on .

    It was a freak wind storm that the locals didn't understand at Lahaina too.

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    I did not know Adam Corolla. This is his evacuation story

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    Another report from an LA podcaster. "He got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire." Assistant Chief of Los Angeles Fire Department

    A Los Angeles Fire Chief Really Said THIS?
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    A first responder who VICTIM BLAMES to cover their inadequacies should be immediately fired.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Whaw ! . . was Adam Corolla exaggerating when he said he's never known winds like that in that area in 60 YEARS ! ? ( probably meaning in his whole life )

    If that's really true, I think we now know what's going on .

    It was a freak wind storm that the locals didn't understand at Lahaina too.

    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    I did not know Adam Corolla. This is his evacuation story

    I spent the first 26 years of my life in Socal and loved the Santa Ana winds. If anyone out there has ever surfed, they created a magical environment, warm conditions, the perfect offshore breeze producing long rooster tails out the back of the wave which would hold the barrel open as long as possible as the waves filed down the beach in perfect cordoroy lines. It was beautiful because in Socal afternoons were dominated by onshore breezes that created horrible choppy, messy waves that most surfers avoided, mornings were best. Point being, Santa Ana winds were usually pretty mild, strong enough to change the direction of the wind but mild enough to enjoy in the water. It was rare that they were more than 30 or 40 miles an hour, if memory serves, maybe occasionally topping out about 60. They changed the cooler ocean breeze to a warmer tropical feeling breeze blowing in from off the deserts northeast of LA. Very enjoyable, but not a threatening breeze by any means. But I do remember the arsonists took advantage of those breezes even back in the 80s and 90s and often created havoc. Hope that helps, and yes, I agree with Adam's take on the winds, never experienced them that strong.
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Then these bizarre storms with disastrous results.....many of these events do seem eerily connected somehow.

    Toss in some drones and plasma balls and hell, we got us a full blown freak show and end of the world sci-fi movie going on.
    ‘The Restaurant At The End of The Universe’ by Douglas Adams comes to mind. Its a restauraunt that has a time jump configuration… seating begins at the start, by the entree its the big mess (that we see now playing out) and by dessert service the final scenes are fading away. Just before the whole thing bleeps out of existence, the timeline is reset to the beginning and the next seating for dinner service begins again. Beings come from all over the galaxies to watch and have dinner and chat while the show goes on in the viewing windows.

    Like that.

    Only with appetizers.

    Has it seemed weird to anyone else that there seem to be no reports of hospitals being overwhelmed with mass casualty incident level burn patients? Or that the reported ‘body count’/‘death toll
    is so low?

    I used to live in SoCal too and people are so self-focused they rarely look up. It seems many waited to leave when flames were already visible… how bizarre is this?! And the people riding off into the flaming streets on bicycles handing paintings off to NBC news anchors? But no reporting on the burn wards being full? That seems really strange to me. None of it follows patterns demonstrated 20 or more years ago. This is a new way of structuring an incident. Its… too structured. Like a dinner seating at a spectacle of catstrophe. ‘Cue Steve Guttenberg… the everyman.’ Staged. Not that it didnt happen… but that the informatics are contrived.

    In the Titanic movie at the start, the old lady listens patiently to the dramatic recounting of the sinking relayed by the treasure hunt ship reasearcher. But then she says something like, “well that was very exciting, but I assure you the ACTUAL EXPERIENCE of it was something else entirely.” I think that is probably what being there must be like: disbelief at the level of stage antic and showmanship being played out whist things on ground level are far different. The restaurant viewing window version versus the soot in your eyes burn marks version.

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    Viva Frei

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    Just putting together a list of the systematic failures leading to the catastrophic fires in California. Let me know if I missed anything.

    1. Diverting fresh water into the San Joaquin Delta to protect the Delta smelt, a fish that is actually not even native to California, and hasn’t been seen in six years.
    2. Insurance companies canceling fire insurance - Allstate canceling 30,000 policies in the area - due to the heightened risk of fires, and the inability to increase premiums above a certain percentage without state authorization.
    3. Poor forest management, in particular in terms of removal of debris, dry brush, etc. which has exacerbated the otherwise natural phenomenon of wildfires in California.
    4. Antiquated infrastructure resulting in fire hydrants running dry.
    5. Budget cuts by mayor Karen Bass of 17 million (less than the 23 million she wanted).
    6. Budget dedicated to fighting homelessness, instead of firefighting infrastructure.
    7. A fire chief dedicated to “Creating, supporting, and promoting a culture that values diversity, inclusion, and equity” instead of firefighting.
    8. Vaccine mandates pursuant to which over 100 firefighters were fired/put on leave for refusing to get the jab.
    9. Apparent arson either setting/exacerbating the fires.
    10. Donating firefighting equipment to Ukraine.

    Does this about cover it?

    But yeah, by all means, blame the “climate crisis” and send a few billion more dollars to Ukraine.

    It's eerily similar to the administrative failures leading up to the Lahaina catastrophe. It's all so strategic upon reflection, because how in the world do you prosecute the criminals responsible? In nearly every situation, the player(s) responsible can simply pass the buck or parrot the old party line, "I was only following orders," and the media will paint them as unwitting victims. Like everything else in this crazy world, the question I always find myself asking is, "how many involved truly understand and took the oath to never betray the big picture, and how many are simply useful idiots and empty vessels?

    p.s. you and I are getting pretty good at those close posts seehas, great minds...





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    The fires in Los Angeles are a military operation.

    It's a perfect example of hybrid warfare.


    Notice the timing and preparation.
    The budget was cut.
    Reservoirs were drained.
    Fire insurance was canceled.
    Even hydrant tests were halted.





    https://x.com/EmeraldRobinson/status...21132436709813



    The attack on L.A. was extremely well timed.

    Mon 10:38pm: Bass sends this tweet & flies to Africa
    Tues 10:30am: Palisades fire starts
    Tues 6:18pm: Eaton fire starts
    Tues 10:30pm: Hurst fire starts
    Wed 6:00pm: Sunset fire starts

    Who signaled the arsonists to start the attack?

    — Emerald Robinson ✝️ (@EmeraldRobinson) January 11, 2025




    Mayor Karen Bass
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    There is an expected destructive and potentially life-threatening windstorm starting Tuesday morning through Wednesday afternoon.

    Red Flag No Parking Restrictions will go into effect in certain areas tomorrow morning.

    Stay safe LA!
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    It's ironic that Carolla got his start doing the Man Show with Jimmy Kimmel because they are now on completely opposite sides of the fight. Here's Adam laying out more truth about blue California voting for the rats running this show:


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/b7kbdsCBRSFR





    Case in point:


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    Los Angeles County Supervisor Lindsey Horvath is wearing an upside-down cross necklace. Kristin Crowley is the fire chief and shares the same name as Aleister Crowley. The woman on the Los Angeles seal is supposedly from the indigenous Tongva tribe who date back some 3,500 years.

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    https://x.com/NicoleShanahan/status/1878104267736711478




    Nicole Shanahan

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    For all you climate change doomsayers: California has been OUT of a drought since 2022. We’ve seen record rainfall, yet the CA Dept of Water Resources, big city mayors, and the governor have failed to use that water to increase ground hydration and strengthen emergency fire services. They looked the other way despite warnings from universities, fire departments, farmers, and consultants offering actionable plans. It’s mind-boggling negligence. The government in California has been taking orders from the wrong people for too long. It’s time they wake up, grow a pair, and get to work for the people.


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    And even if climate change caused this, the preparation and response were inept.

    Climate change is the political equivalent of “my dog ate my homework”.


    Nicole Shanahan

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    🎯 climate is heavily impacted by ground moisture. The current CA water management polices masked as “climate change” polices are ludicrous. They are making the land dry, dead and unable to sequester carbon. Starving people and the economy.
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    Several reports floating around X this am that say the biggest reason for the hotness of these fires in CA was/is the number one sold vehicle in all of CA sitting in huge number of drives all over the state, the TESLA model Y. Apparently the fires have ignited these batteries and once these batteries ignite they finish off and burn to a crisp everything in the vicinity sufficient to even turn concrete to dust! That's quite a fire and if they can prove the majority of the severe damage was due to this number one selling car Musk is about to lose his behind in a legal battle with insurance companies rather unhappy with the data they are getting. Time will tell I suppose.
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    Another Zero Hedge update.
    Palisades Inferno Forces More Evacuations, Burns Near 405 Freeway

    The Palisades Fire, Eaton Fire, Kenneth Fire, Hurst Fire, and Lidia Fire have scorched over 27,000 acres, destroyed 12,000 structures, claimed at least 11 lives, and evacuated more than 150,000 people. Containment for the two largest fires, the Palisades Fire and Eaton Fire, remains in the mid-to-high single digits. Evacuation orders were issued overnight for Mandeville Canyon as the Palisades Fire advanced toward the Interstate 405 freeway.

    https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1877807641126195604

    Firefighters continued battling the Palisades, Eaton, and other fires. A red flag warning via the National Weather Service was still in effect in the early morning hours.



    LA Times provides the latest on all five fires raging across the LA County area:
    Palisades Fire:
    Burned 21,317 acres and numerous homes, businesses and landmarks in Pacific Palisades and westward along Pacific Coast Highway, toward Malibu. As of 5 a.m. Friday morning, the fire was 8% contained, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. On Friday night, officials upgraded an evacuation warning to a mandatory order from Sunset Boulevard north to Encino Reservoir, from the 405 Freeway west to Mandeville Canyon. New evacuation warnings were issued for areas to the east of the 405 Freeway, north of West Sunset Boulevard and south of Mulholland Drive, along with areas south of Ventura Boulevard and east of Louise Avenue in Encino.

    Eaton Fire:
    Burned 14,117 acres and many structures in Altadena and Pasadena. Additional evacuation orders were mandated Thursday afternoon when fire climbed toward Mt. Wilson. Other mandatory evacuations were lifted as city officials notified residents in Glenoaks Canyon and Chevy Chase Canyon that it was safe to return to their homes. Gov. Gavin Newsom posted on X on Friday morning that the fire was 3% contained as of 7:30 a.m.

    Kenneth fire:
    Burned 1,052 acres near the border of Los Angeles and Ventura counties. As of 6 a.m. Friday morning, the fire was 50% contained, according to Cal Fire. All evacuation warnings have been lifted for the fire.

    Hurst Fire:
    Burned 771 acres in the area around Sylmar. Evacuation orders have been lifted. As of 8 p.m. Thursday night, the fire was 70% contained, according to Cal Fire.

    Lidia Fire:
    Burned 394 acres in Acton and is 98% contained, according to Cal Fire.
    Fire Map (LA Times)



    The latest concern has been a large flare-up in the Palisades area that prompted new evacuation orders from Sunset Boulevard north to Encino Reservoir, and from the 405 Freeway west to Mandeville Canyon. This area includes Brentwood and the foothills of the San Fernando Valley.

    LA Times warned: "The Palisades fire can now be seen across Los Angeles' San Fernando Valley, an unsettling development as officials worried about the fire expanding into neighborhoods in Encino and Brentwood and possibly jumping the 405 freeway into Bel Air."



    Josh Sautter, president of the Encino Neighborhood Council, told the media outlet that the latest round of evacuation orders sent panic through the community.

    "I don't think that people here really saw that it was coming," Sautter said, adding, "We didn't think that it was something that would really affect us — until it did."

    Here are the latest LA Times headlines regarding the inferno:
    • Glow of Palisades fire seen across LA's San Fernando Valley; swaths of Encino, Brentwood told to evacuate
    • Latest Palisades fire evacuation order sends shock wave through Encino
    • LA County declares health emergency due to smoke and ash
    • State to probe why Pacific Palisades reservoir was offline, empty when firestorm exploded
    • Newsom orders investigation into dry fire hydrants that hampered firefighting in LA.
    • Insurance commissioner issues moratorium on home policy cancellations in fire zones
    • 'We don't know half of it.' LA firestorm death toll expected to rise as searchers go door to door
    Latest Zero Hedge headlines:
    Meanwhile, Gov. Gavin Newsom and LA Mayor Karen Bass find themselves in the hot seat as their own liberal voter base turns against them, blaming the radical politicians for the spread of fire due to their massive mismanagement of budgets.
    A Fox News report found that Newsom slashed funding for wildfire and forest resilience by more than $100 million last year. He signed the budget covering the 2024-25 fiscal year in June.

    Even the left-leaning USA Today reported that new budget documents showed the mayor reduced the Los Angeles Fire Department's budget from $837 million in fiscal year 2024 to $819 million in fiscal year 2025.

    In December, LAFD sent a report to the mayor and city council warning that " these budgetary reductions have adversely affected the Department's ability to maintain core operations."

    The destruction caused by the wildfires is about twice the size of Manhattan, and growing, and in our view, will be a political disaster for both Newsom and Bass.

    Elon Musk wrote on X the huge loss of mansions across LA has primarily been a failure of Newsom and Bass...

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1877379125452910850

    On Friday evening, Newsom was trying to salvage his dumpster fire political career by inviting President-elect Donald Trump to California.

    https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1877845635359191191

    Newsom also noted on X, "I am calling for an independent investigation into the loss of water pressure to local fire hydrants and the reported unavailability of water supplies from the Santa Ynez Reservoir."

    https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1877823208273178995

    Newsom is getting angry.

    https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1877953993042960679

    Community Noted.

    https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1877930583000805634

    It's not surprising at all that liberal Californians, including Hollywood elites, voted in Mayor Bass, a Marxist!

    https://x.com/nataliegwinters/status...30890647843182

    https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1877321926542077997

    Local elections matter — what were you all thinking?

    Also, all of this proves that you can not rely on gov't....

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    I once heard a podcast about what some Native American people know about the entire LA region being riddled with underground tunnels and activities.

    I can't remember any names to go searching for. Do others know about those stories ?
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    I notice that many are exclaiming this is not climate change. California has not been in a drought. It is arson no doubt.





    AND in November there was Palisade fire in practically the same place and even after that the reservoir was not filled.

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    I once heard a podcast about what some Native American people know about the entire LA region being riddled with underground tunnels and activities.

    I can't remember any names to go searching for. Do others know about those stories ?

    Here's a couple links:

    Ancient Lizard People Underground in Los Angeles?



    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/s...reptiles27.htm


    https://www.americanghostwalks.com/a...le-los-angeles

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    Many people involved in bringing rain and calming the winds


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    If you have any doubt as to how heinous politicians can be, especially progressive politicians or if you're wondering what happened to the California water supply then watch this short video.

    While 40 million Californians suffer through unprecedented drought, one billionaire couple owns a massive share of the state's water system, largely seized in a series of secretive meetings.

    It is easy to blame the billionaires but the blame for this current disaster was created and sustained over a long time by greedy politicians.

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    I understand many of the stars lost homes to these fires and many of the names of these stars are the very people we've suspected of child trafficking, other human trafficking, having dungeons, torture rooms for adrenochrome harvest, and God knows what else in the way of proofs of their deviant behaviors but gee! It's all dust now! All destroyed in the fire! Oh no! How convenient huh?
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Quote Posted by Artemesia (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Then these bizarre storms with disastrous results.....many of these events do seem eerily connected somehow.

    Toss in some drones and plasma balls and hell, we got us a full blown freak show and end of the world sci-fi movie going on.
    ‘The Restaurant At The End of The Universe’ by Douglas Adams comes to mind. Its a restauraunt that has a time jump configuration… seating begins at the start, by the entree its the big mess (that we see now playing out) and by dessert service the final scenes are fading away. Just before the whole thing bleeps out of existence, the timeline is reset to the beginning and the next seating for dinner service begins again. Beings come from all over the galaxies to watch and have dinner and chat while the show goes on in the viewing windows.

    Like that.

    Only with appetizers.

    Has it seemed weird to anyone else that there seem to be no reports of hospitals being overwhelmed with mass casualty incident level burn patients? Or that the reported ‘body count’/‘death toll
    is so low?

    I used to live in SoCal too and people are so self-focused they rarely look up. It seems many waited to leave when flames were already visible… how bizarre is this?! And the people riding off into the flaming streets on bicycles handing paintings off to NBC news anchors? But no reporting on the burn wards being full? That seems really strange to me. None of it follows patterns demonstrated 20 or more years ago. This is a new way of structuring an incident. Its… too structured. Like a dinner seating at a spectacle of catstrophe. ‘Cue Steve Guttenberg… the everyman.’ Staged. Not that it didnt happen… but that the informatics are contrived.

    In the Titanic movie at the start, the old lady listens patiently to the dramatic recounting of the sinking relayed by the treasure hunt ship reasearcher. But then she says something like, “well that was very exciting, but I assure you the ACTUAL EXPERIENCE of it was something else entirely.” I think that is probably what being there must be like: disbelief at the level of stage antic and showmanship being played out whist things on ground level are far different. The restaurant viewing window version versus the soot in your eyes burn marks version.
    I was wondering too "where are all the people?" why we have had no greater reporting of evacuation information... where are all the people going? So few reports of injured and deceased. Just like Maui.


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    I once heard a podcast about what some Native American people know about the entire LA region being riddled with underground tunnels and activities.

    I can't remember any names to go searching for. Do others know about those stories ?
    more recent info I just learned this week.

    https://laist.com/news/entertainment...the-playboy-ma


    Secret Tunnels Were Built Under The Playboy Mansion In The 1970s
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    The home at 10236 Charing Cross Road has been a vault of secrets ever since Hugh Hefner got the keys in 1971 (though he didn't fully move in for three more years), and one of those secrets just got dug up today.

    The 1970s were THE decade to be invited to the Playboy Mansion, and it seems some stars wanted easy-access. Playboy.com reported today that secret tunnels were being built from the mansion to the homes of Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty, Kirk Douglas and James Caan. At the time, the actors all lived nearby.

    One of our editors found some Polaroids from 1977 that showed a large excavation project at The Mansion. We asked the new general manager at The Mansion about these photos. He said, very matter-of-factly, "that’s probably when they built the tunnels in the 70s."

    A visit to the mansion led to the discovery of blueprints and plans for the tunnels, which contained the aforementioned names. While there, a current staffer also told them that the tunnels were sealed up around 1989.

    https://x.com/Playboy/status/582633400537915392





    more photos and blueprints here

    https://www.messynessychic.com/2015/...ity-casanovas/

    The editorial staff at Playboy.com recently revealed that they have discovered a bunch of dusty old blueprints, plans and photographs in an unfinished basement area of the Playboy Mansion, which unveil a network of underground tunnels that allegedly once linked Hefner’s notorious bachelor’s pad to the homes of “Mr. J. Nicholson,” “Mr. W. Beatty,” “Mr. K. Douglas” and “Mr. J. Caan” during the late 1970s and 80s.





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