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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Quote I'm not a fan of Elon's. I find it disgusting that he was aware of the pedo information and kept his mouth shut, until now, if it is true. It says all that I need to know about the man. Trump's resolution to the situation is simple. Have the FBI release the files, all of them.
    I am beyond confident that there is no Trump-pedo information in 'those files'. Trump would have been removed from the scene long before now if there was.

    I also want all the Epstein files, videos, perps, CIA/Mossad blackmail involvement info released (with only victims protected)- same for the Diddy parties.



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    If there was anything even remotely incriminating about Trump in the Epstein files, it would have been leaked before Trump reached the bottom of the escalator.
    I find your confidence regarding the Trump/Epstein files lacking incriminating evidence confusing especially because of Trump's past behavior and numerous allegations, but more is your reason why. It's not logical, because nothing has leaked out? So you're saying that because nothing has leaked out, you're "beyond confident"? That's not logical. I'd rather see the files myself. I don't think that Trump has demonstrated the type of honesty where I just take his word for fact. I only wish that I could trust any politician, or person that I don't personally know like that. Perhaps I have trust issues?
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    I am confident because of the all the below (and more) testimony and evidence, public for a long time.

    below proves nothing, but no amount of Epstein disclosures can prove Trump's innocence, as one can always argue those parts were left out.







    https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1930760439388139528




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    Never forget it was Trump’s administration that finally took down Epstein… and Ghislaine, Nyguard, Bronfman, NXIVM

    Remember in 2015 when Trump called him out and said “that island is really a cesspool… just ask Prince Andrew, he’ll tell you about it.”




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    With a judge ordering the release of documents regarding sex trafficker and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein this week, we have also seen a vicious attempted assault on President Donald Trump, distorting the facts about Trump’s "connection" to Jeffrey Epstein to distract from the disgraced billionaire’s very real connection to Bill and Hillary Clinton. If anything the new revelations exonerate Trump.

    Online Trump haters are exhuming a phony line of attack, misstating the history between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. It should be no surprise that such a narrative was previously used by Hillary Clinton and her flunkies to distract from the Clinton’s extensive and financially beneficial relationship with rapist and sex-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.

    That Trump knew and was at social gatherings with Jeffrey Epstein is accurate. Since 2021 it has been publicaly known that Trump was only on Epstein's plane once and that was with his wife Marla Maples and their daughter Tiffany. Trump never visited Epstein's island, nor Epstein's New York residence. Having reviewed all of the FAA records on Epstein's plane when I wrote my book 'The Clinton's War on Women,'I know that the Trumps were on Epstein plan only once.

    The Epstein story is a twisted one. Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter insisted that he gave the state's attorney enough evidence from a six-month undercover investigation to charge Epstein with 35 incidents of child sex trafficking and multiple counts of rape of a minor. Chief Reiter was shocked when the state's attorney filed the sweetheart plea deal that Epstein's high-priced lawyers (including Roy Black, Gerald Lefcourt, Alan Dershowitz, and former U.S. Solicitor General Ken Starr) secured.

    The State's Attorney who gave Epstein a slap on the wrist immediately resigned and formed a private law firm which began immediately providing legal services to several of Epstein's accomplices.

    Trump broke with Epstein prior to Epstein's prosecution in Florida. Epstein should have gone down for sex-trafficking. Instead, Epstein was allowed to plead to one count of solicitation—a shocking plea deal that required him to serve his 15 month sentence in the air-conditioned Palm Beach County jail, where he only had to stay in jail from 10 P.M. until 6 A.M, and where he often had his gourmet meals brought in.

    The Palm Beach County Sheriff's office operated more like Epstein's personal security detail as they transported him during his daytime business activities or on his leisure time at his Palm Beach mansion.

    When Palm Beach Police Chief Reiter took his concerns about the State's Attorney's soft plea deal with Epstein to the U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, Acosta rubber stamped the state plea deal and sealed the record. After many years of litigation, The Palm Beach Post ultimately obtained the documents that proved that the Bush Justice Department instructed Acosta to give Epstein a pass. In preparation for his confirmation hearings in the U.S. Senate when he was appointed Secretary of Labor by President Donald Trump, Acosta told U.S. Senate staffers that if asked about his disposition of the Epstein case as U.S. Attorney, he would say that the DOJ told him that Epstein worked for the CIA and that the matter needed to be closed and the file legally sealed.

    After serving his state sentence, Epstein essentially returned to the management of his blackmail and sex-trafficking operations—but for the dogged reporting of Julie K. Brown of The Miami Herald, whose exposure of the facts about Epstein caused his subsequent indictment and his questionable suicide.

    Virginia Giuffre ( Roberts) is among the victims who sued Epstein for his sexual abuse. In her lawsuit deposition, she said she met billionaire Donald Trump once at Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion and that Trump was a “complete gentleman” who she never saw acting inappropriately. Through her attorneys, Giuffre also said that Trump was the only significant public figure within Epstein's orbit who was helpful to her attorneys.

    Brad Edwards, Giuffre’s attorney, had this to say about Trump:

    “He (President Trump) is the only person, who in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas, on a lot of people - to some pretty connected people and I wanted to talk to them - He is the only person who picked up the phone and said ‘Let's just talk, I'll give you as much time as you want, tell you wha you need to know.’ He was very helpful in the information that he gave, and gave no information whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever - But had good information - That checked out - And that helped us and we didn't even have to take a deposition from him.”

    Trump turned down numerous invitations to Epstein’s hedonistic private island and his Palm Beach home. There is no evidence Trump did anything improper. Norma Foerderer, Trump's longtime personal assistant, told me that Trump thought Epstein was "creepy."

    “The one time I visited his Palm Beach home, the swimming pool was full of beautiful young girls,” Trump told a member of his Club, Mar-a-Lago. “‘How nice,’ I thought, ‘he let the neighborhood kids use his pool.’” According to his personal security guard, Trump left Epstein's home within 15 minutes of arrival, feeling uncomfortable with the strange ratio of men to much younger women.

    Many of the Epstein-based smears against Trump that are now being recycled by Trump critics originated with the Clinton campaign. Epstein provided millions in seed funding for the Clinton Global Initiative, was a heavy donor to the Clinton Foundation. Bill Clinton visited Epstein's island on at least 17 occasions, as well as being identified by FAA records as having been on Epstein's plane on at least 26 occasions.

    The Clinton Foundation provided one hundred percent of the funding for TerraMar, a nonprofit controlled by Epstein pimp Ghislaine Maxwell, which was utilized to hire young female interns to allegedly work on environmental projects while actually constituting a grooming pool of Epstein's future victims.

    Unlike the Clintons, Trump cut Epstein off after he heard about an inappropriate advance by Epstein toward a young woman who worked at the Spa at Mar-a-Lago, and Trump told security that Epstein was barred from the property. The Clintons continued to socialize and fundraise with Jeffrey Epstein after his state conviction. The Clinton Foundation actually took a donation from Epstein after he had a probable cause affidavit filed on him by Palm Beach Police in May of 2006. Trump cut Epstein off well before state charges were brought against the sex-trafficker.

    The Clintons were desperate to distract from their own relationship with Epstein by trying to throw shade on Trump. Now, Trump's political opponents are recycling the same trash.

    It was a smear in 2016 and it's a smear today.
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    wonder if any Epstein disclosure coming up now (probably not)

    later: nope

    https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1931077565399318601




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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I am confident because of the all the below (and more) testimony and evidence, public for a long time.

    below proves nothing, but no amount of Epstein disclosures can prove Trump's innocence, as one can always argue those parts were left out.







    https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1930760439388139528




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    Never forget it was Trump’s administration that finally took down Epstein… and Ghislaine, Nyguard, Bronfman, NXIVM

    Remember in 2015 when Trump called him out and said “that island is really a cesspool… just ask Prince Andrew, he’ll tell you about it.”




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    Trump & Epstein: The Truth Emerges
    It was a smear in 2016 and it's a smear today.

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    With a judge ordering the release of documents regarding sex trafficker and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein this week, we have also seen a vicious attempted assault on President Donald Trump, distorting the facts about Trump’s "connection" to Jeffrey Epstein to distract from the disgraced billionaire’s very real connection to Bill and Hillary Clinton. If anything the new revelations exonerate Trump.

    Online Trump haters are exhuming a phony line of attack, misstating the history between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. It should be no surprise that such a narrative was previously used by Hillary Clinton and her flunkies to distract from the Clinton’s extensive and financially beneficial relationship with rapist and sex-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.

    That Trump knew and was at social gatherings with Jeffrey Epstein is accurate. Since 2021 it has been publicaly known that Trump was only on Epstein's plane once and that was with his wife Marla Maples and their daughter Tiffany. Trump never visited Epstein's island, nor Epstein's New York residence. Having reviewed all of the FAA records on Epstein's plane when I wrote my book 'The Clinton's War on Women,'I know that the Trumps were on Epstein plan only once.

    The Epstein story is a twisted one. Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter insisted that he gave the state's attorney enough evidence from a six-month undercover investigation to charge Epstein with 35 incidents of child sex trafficking and multiple counts of rape of a minor. Chief Reiter was shocked when the state's attorney filed the sweetheart plea deal that Epstein's high-priced lawyers (including Roy Black, Gerald Lefcourt, Alan Dershowitz, and former U.S. Solicitor General Ken Starr) secured.

    The State's Attorney who gave Epstein a slap on the wrist immediately resigned and formed a private law firm which began immediately providing legal services to several of Epstein's accomplices.

    Trump broke with Epstein prior to Epstein's prosecution in Florida. Epstein should have gone down for sex-trafficking. Instead, Epstein was allowed to plead to one count of solicitation—a shocking plea deal that required him to serve his 15 month sentence in the air-conditioned Palm Beach County jail, where he only had to stay in jail from 10 P.M. until 6 A.M, and where he often had his gourmet meals brought in.

    The Palm Beach County Sheriff's office operated more like Epstein's personal security detail as they transported him during his daytime business activities or on his leisure time at his Palm Beach mansion.

    When Palm Beach Police Chief Reiter took his concerns about the State's Attorney's soft plea deal with Epstein to the U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, Acosta rubber stamped the state plea deal and sealed the record. After many years of litigation, The Palm Beach Post ultimately obtained the documents that proved that the Bush Justice Department instructed Acosta to give Epstein a pass. In preparation for his confirmation hearings in the U.S. Senate when he was appointed Secretary of Labor by President Donald Trump, Acosta told U.S. Senate staffers that if asked about his disposition of the Epstein case as U.S. Attorney, he would say that the DOJ told him that Epstein worked for the CIA and that the matter needed to be closed and the file legally sealed.

    After serving his state sentence, Epstein essentially returned to the management of his blackmail and sex-trafficking operations—but for the dogged reporting of Julie K. Brown of The Miami Herald, whose exposure of the facts about Epstein caused his subsequent indictment and his questionable suicide.

    Virginia Giuffre ( Roberts) is among the victims who sued Epstein for his sexual abuse. In her lawsuit deposition, she said she met billionaire Donald Trump once at Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion and that Trump was a “complete gentleman” who she never saw acting inappropriately. Through her attorneys, Giuffre also said that Trump was the only significant public figure within Epstein's orbit who was helpful to her attorneys.

    Brad Edwards, Giuffre’s attorney, had this to say about Trump:

    “He (President Trump) is the only person, who in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas, on a lot of people - to some pretty connected people and I wanted to talk to them - He is the only person who picked up the phone and said ‘Let's just talk, I'll give you as much time as you want, tell you wha you need to know.’ He was very helpful in the information that he gave, and gave no information whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever - But had good information - That checked out - And that helped us and we didn't even have to take a deposition from him.”

    Trump turned down numerous invitations to Epstein’s hedonistic private island and his Palm Beach home. There is no evidence Trump did anything improper. Norma Foerderer, Trump's longtime personal assistant, told me that Trump thought Epstein was "creepy."

    “The one time I visited his Palm Beach home, the swimming pool was full of beautiful young girls,” Trump told a member of his Club, Mar-a-Lago. “‘How nice,’ I thought, ‘he let the neighborhood kids use his pool.’” According to his personal security guard, Trump left Epstein's home within 15 minutes of arrival, feeling uncomfortable with the strange ratio of men to much younger women.

    Many of the Epstein-based smears against Trump that are now being recycled by Trump critics originated with the Clinton campaign. Epstein provided millions in seed funding for the Clinton Global Initiative, was a heavy donor to the Clinton Foundation. Bill Clinton visited Epstein's island on at least 17 occasions, as well as being identified by FAA records as having been on Epstein's plane on at least 26 occasions.

    The Clinton Foundation provided one hundred percent of the funding for TerraMar, a nonprofit controlled by Epstein pimp Ghislaine Maxwell, which was utilized to hire young female interns to allegedly work on environmental projects while actually constituting a grooming pool of Epstein's future victims.

    Unlike the Clintons, Trump cut Epstein off after he heard about an inappropriate advance by Epstein toward a young woman who worked at the Spa at Mar-a-Lago, and Trump told security that Epstein was barred from the property. The Clintons continued to socialize and fundraise with Jeffrey Epstein after his state conviction. The Clinton Foundation actually took a donation from Epstein after he had a probable cause affidavit filed on him by Palm Beach Police in May of 2006. Trump cut Epstein off well before state charges were brought against the sex-trafficker.

    The Clintons were desperate to distract from their own relationship with Epstein by trying to throw shade on Trump. Now, Trump's political opponents are recycling the same trash.

    It was a smear in 2016 and it's a smear today.
    I don't know what is in the Epstein Files and neither do you. It's likely as you said, they will never be released in their entirety. If anyone has the power and authority to release them, that person is currently Trump. The Biden administration didn't release them either. That tells me that this is a nonpartisian issue. Since both sides have agreed to keep them secret. This logically points to both parties members and perhaps other influential people being involved. It's like George Carlin said "It's big club and you ain't in it" Having read your reply, defending Trump's honor with various anecdotes and quotes from others, just comes off to me as simping for your glorious leader. I'm not singling Trump out, I want the truth out and those pedos dealt with, regardless of political allegiance.

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    If the country needs to have a big 'discussion' on a certain topic, a high profile spat is a good way to get it going.


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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    If the country needs to have a big 'discussion' on a certain topic, a high profile spat is a good way to get it going.


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    that clip of them talking about epstien popup and watched first few minutes...interesting part is we have FBI never looked into autopsy and came to conclusion kill himself while find videos either fake by create AI.

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    Things are getting pretty intense for ICE Agents in LA.....

    These are organized and funded protests (riots) in my opinion.

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    I only wish that I could trust any politician, or person that I don't personally know like that. Perhaps I have trust issues?
    No, you don't have trust issues. You have common sense. You should always hold your own critical thinking skill above the words of others, ESPECIALLY if they are politicians, celebrities or billionaires.

    We have a lot of Avalon members whose critical thinking skills get tossed out the window when they hear the name "Trump."

    I see you have been here for a decade. Let me guess you were not active here during the "Q-anon" siege of 2018 until about 2020 when believing in the Gospel of Qanon and the Immaculate Conception of the Donald in his Pleiades and his Divine Incarnation on Earth were doctrinaire for many here on the forum. Fortunately things have quieted down and the forum has become less Bedlamesque and people here have become smarter, although some vestiges of this madness still remain.

    Glad to have you here asking reasonable questions based on sound critical thinking skills.

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    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    I only wish that I could trust any politician, or person that I don't personally know like that. Perhaps I have trust issues?
    No, you don't have trust issues. You have common sense. You should always hold your own critical thinking skill above the words of others, ESPECIALLY if they are politicians, celebrities or billionaires.

    We have a lot of Avalon members whose critical thinking skills get tossed out the window when they hear the name "Trump."

    I see you have been here for a decade. Let me guess you were not active here during the "Q-anon" siege of 2018 until about 2020 when believing in the Gospel of Qanon and the Immaculate Conception of the Donald in his Pleiades and his Divine Incarnation on Earth were doctrinaire for many here on the forum. Fortunately things have quieted down and the forum has become less Bedlamesque and people here have become smarter, although some vestiges of this madness still remain.

    Glad to have you here asking reasonable questions based on sound critical thinking skills.
    I thank you for your encouragement. I was lurking through the comments during the intense Q-anon era here. I didn't have any constructive comments or views during that time. So I just continued to review things without commenting. However, that and recent events sparks my memory about a YouTube video that I think would be tremendously useful to PA members and others. Perhaps this should be placed somewhere else? Mods? Please see the link below

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    He's making intellectually stimulating 'points' but he's still stuck under the same intellectual glass ceiling as the people of the problem he's observing.

    It's the intellect itself that's the 'stupid' he's talking about.

    When he says independent thought is the way to go he's kind of getting it right but still not snapping out of the intellectual trap. independent thought doesn't actually use the intellect, at least, not the thought that breaks out of the intellectual trap. The intellect is dependent on pre formed neurolinguistic history and the translation of raw cerebral activity into that neuroliguistic (data packages) 'lookup table'.

    Raw pure intelligence is not an intellectual thing at all. The intellect is a parasite living on the back of intelligence, stealing it's sentient energy and, at best, converting it into a counterfeit and inferior copy of intelligence.

    Increasingly, as the takeover of the intellect from the raw intelligence intensifies, the counterfeit is forming it's own inverted replacement [they chose the path of knowledge of good and evil].

    That inverted replacement is the thinking part of what we call evil but until it's ugly horrors get right in our faces and fully defying our raw pure intelligence we don't tend to have a problem with it or get motivated to do something to stop it ruining life. Until we snap out of the intellectual trap, we're not even capable of preventing it. We're really part of contributing towards camouflaging and installing it as our permanent forever reality script master, even more.

    Have we reached a point of no-return yet ?

    Over a thousand years of four-wheel-drive determination in universities to intellectualise absolutely everything under the sun, and even add a good measure of wizardry into it, has brought us in western societies to all but the deafening slam of the door locking us in to the 'evil' intellectual jail forever.

    What more could intellectualists want than an intellectual god ? They've very nearly created one and all under the influence of the original intellectual rebellion.
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    Things are getting way out of control in LA, here's a live feed from Agenda-Free TV.

    Trump is taking over the California National Guard and deploying 2000 troops to LA right now.

    Gov Newsome is fighting Trump all the way on this. This could get really worse than it is right now, and its pretty bad right now.



    Things are escalating in NYC too.

    https://x.com/nicksortor/status/


    Ironically, all these protestors look very similar to all those anti-Israel protestors.....

    Trump just posted this....


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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    He's making intellectually stimulating 'points' but he's still stuck under the same intellectual glass ceiling as the people of the problem he's observing.

    It's the intellect itself that's the 'stupid' he's talking about.

    When he says independent thought is the way to go he's kind of getting it right but still not snapping out of the intellectual trap. independent thought doesn't actually use the intellect, at least, not the thought that breaks out of the intellectual trap. The intellect is dependent on pre formed neurolinguistic history and the translation of raw cerebral activity into that neuroliguistic (data packages) 'lookup table'.

    Raw pure intelligence is not an intellectual thing at all. The intellect is a parasite living on the back of intelligence, stealing it's sentient energy and, at best, converting it into a counterfeit and inferior copy of intelligence.

    Increasingly, as the takeover of the intellect from the raw intelligence intensifies, the counterfeit is forming it's own inverted replacement [they chose the path of knowledge of good and evil].

    That inverted replacement is the thinking part of what we call evil but until it's ugly horrors get right in our faces and fully defying our raw pure intelligence we don't tend to have a problem with it or get motivated to do something to stop it ruining life. Until we snap out of the intellectual trap, we're not even capable of preventing it. We're really part of contributing towards camouflaging and installing it as our permanent forever reality script master, even more.

    Have we reached a point of no-return yet ?

    Over a thousand years of four-wheel-drive determination in universities to intellectualise absolutely everything under the sun, and even add a good measure of wizardry into it, has brought us in western societies to all but the deafening slam of the door locking us in to the 'evil' intellectual jail forever.

    What more could intellectualists want than an intellectual god ? They've very nearly created one and all under the influence of the original intellectual rebellion.
    Sorry for going offtopic but i absolutely agree with your assessment of the video. I belive that the cause is relatively simple and is based on the fact that we have forgotten who we really are - when the human body, which even has a name, is referred to as "i" and we give the material brain all decision-making power, decisions are made that are not in harmony with our higher self.

    Intellect is a kind of glorification of ego and this only takes place in the material plane.

    We should learn to question the decisions and logical conclusions of our brains, because can something that cannot understand who we really are make the best decisions for us?

    My heart always knows the right way, my brain questions it for reasons it cannot understand.
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    Interesting article here, detailing an actual fistfight between Elon Musk and Treasury Secretary Scott Bennent in April. This is all coming from "anonymous sources", but it rings true to me. Kinda makes you wonder about Elon's recent black eye.

    Elon has plenty of reasons to be pissed off, and I sympathize with many of them, but what I'm reading here kind of confirms my feeling that he's had something of a mental break. I don't think it was any kind of full-fledged meltdown or anything, but once you start physically assaulting colleagues, it's time to walk away.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cal...003150840.html
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    He's making intellectually stimulating 'points' but he's still stuck under the same intellectual glass ceiling as the people of the problem he's observing.

    It's the intellect itself that's the 'stupid' he's talking about.

    When he says independent thought is the way to go he's kind of getting it right but still not snapping out of the intellectual trap. independent thought doesn't actually use the intellect, at least, not the thought that breaks out of the intellectual trap. The intellect is dependent on pre formed neurolinguistic history and the translation of raw cerebral activity into that neuroliguistic (data packages) 'lookup table'.

    Raw pure intelligence is not an intellectual thing at all. The intellect is a parasite living on the back of intelligence, stealing it's sentient energy and, at best, converting it into a counterfeit and inferior copy of intelligence.

    Increasingly, as the takeover of the intellect from the raw intelligence intensifies, the counterfeit is forming it's own inverted replacement [they chose the path of knowledge of good and evil].

    That inverted replacement is the thinking part of what we call evil but until it's ugly horrors get right in our faces and fully defying our raw pure intelligence we don't tend to have a problem with it or get motivated to do something to stop it ruining life. Until we snap out of the intellectual trap, we're not even capable of preventing it. We're really part of contributing towards camouflaging and installing it as our permanent forever reality script master, even more.

    Have we reached a point of no-return yet ?

    Over a thousand years of four-wheel-drive determination in universities to intellectualise absolutely everything under the sun, and even add a good measure of wizardry into it, has brought us in western societies to all but the deafening slam of the door locking us in to the 'evil' intellectual jail forever.

    What more could intellectualists want than an intellectual god ? They've very nearly created one and all under the influence of the original intellectual rebellion.
    Your intellectualizing of intellectualization is duly noted. Intellectualization is a fairly common defense mechanism, using logic and reasoning as a way to avoid uncomfortable emotions. However, in a broader sense it merely means "to think about". It's uniquely human to intellectualize, it's one of a few things that I believe makes us "special". As, noted in the subject video, our world 🌎 would be an entirely different place if not for the past and current efforts of intellectuals. Your reply is an exceptional example 👏

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    I think it's a good idea to keep in mind when assessing Musk that he has Asperger's Syndrome, which is on the Autism spectrum.

    See:https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/m...rgers-syndrome

    Quote Asperger’s Symptoms
    Asperger’s symptoms start early in life. Most diagnoses happen between ages 5 and 9, although some people are adults before they get their diagnosis. No two people have the same symptoms. But they're usually related to emotional, communication, and behavioral skills.

    People with the disorder may:

    Have trouble making eye contact
    Feel and act awkward in social settings
    Have trouble responding to people in conversation
    Miss social cues that other people find obvious
    Struggle to read body language
    Don’t understand what facial expressions mean
    Show few emotions
    Speak in a flat, robotic tone
    Talk a lot about one topic such as rocks or football stats
    Repeat words, phrases, or movements
    Dislike change
    Keep the same schedule and habits, such as eating the same meals
    Adult Asperger's symptoms

    No symptoms are specific to adults, though some are more common, including:

    Clumsiness
    Strong verbal skills
    Obsession with a topic
    Social difficulties
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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Interesting article here, detailing an actual fistfight between Elon Musk and Treasury Secretary Scott Bennent in April. This is all coming from "anonymous sources", but it rings true to me. Kinda makes you wonder about Elon's recent black eye.

    Elon has plenty of reasons to be pissed off, and I sympathize with many of them, but what I'm reading here kind of confirms my feeling that he's had something of a mental break. I don't think it was any kind of full-fledged meltdown or anything, but once you start physically assaulting colleagues, it's time to walk away.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cal...003150840.html
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    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)

    our world would be an entirely different place if not for the past and current efforts of intellectuals.
    I wish it was an entirely different place.


    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)

    Your reply is an exceptional example
    Meeting intellectuals half way seems like a good idea until you've tried it and they reply to let you know they're not listening and all you've done is give them an intellectual ego boosting laugh at you.
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    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)

    our world would be an entirely different place if not for the past and current efforts of intellectuals.
    I wish it was an entirely different place.


    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)

    Your reply is an exceptional example
    Meeting intellectuals half way seems like a good idea until you've tried it and they reply to let you know they're not listening and all you've done is give them an intellectual ego boosting laugh at you.
    My reply to you was intended as a compliment. I acknowledged that there's various views of intellectualism. If you're offended by my complimenting you "for thinking about it" or exercising your own intellect, then perhaps you misunderstood me or the contents of the video. Perhaps I should have added that your reply was extremely insightfull? Otherwise, your response makes no sense to me. Please explain how I was laughing at you.
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    Should we also give the benefit of the doubt to pedophiles?
    After all we know they are over-stimulated by young people.
    It is really not their fault how they behave around them...
    We have to take into account their proclivities and give them leeway for their behaviour.

    Everyone has their cross to bear - no one gets a free pass.


    Just like the trannies forcing themselves on our children in 'drag time story time hour' is not justified because they have been marginalized.
    Or just like illegal aliens demanding rights after breaking the law of the land by entering without authorization.
    Or just like the clot shot forced upon the masses because some people were afraid.
    Or like stealing an election because the opposing guy is a supposed threat to their 'democracy'.
    Or ...

    There are no excuses. There is a line proper people do not ever cross because they know that, once said, some things can never be taken back and once done can never be undone.


    P.S. There are things, that even in my most crazy hurtful moments, I would never have said to my wife - even though it might have been true and accurate. (I could add that she did not return me that particular favor, but I was always expected to be the bigger person...)[what would have happened if I hadn't held back, you think?]refer to any of the above examples for clues
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