The simple facts and fictions about Israel and Zionism: How to debunk blatantly false Zionist propaganda

[shaberon]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I can understand that you believe any message or information that is being communicated is aggressive or warlike, rather than truthful content.

I don't understand. The US and Israel are the most violent countries in the modern world. Did we lose that focus?

I believe it is true. The organizers of the protest were hoping for someone to get seriously hurt or die, this enhances their power, nothing more. When you read all the evidence, this is abundantly clear. Ultimatley things could change, but it is extremely doubtful and this loss of life will be for naught.

Why would we believe what you think about the organizers?

Most of them would like to get rid of the Administration.

This is NYC as seen from Russia:





Most of the rest of the world outside the shuttered and protected circle understands this as a single entity, Trump Fascist Zionism. It's doubtful things could change from that?

That itself may no longer be identical to United Arab Emirates Zionism.


And no, Dr. King was nothing significant about the Palestinian issue. It would be correct that some, perhaps mostly northern blacks, look at some of the Jews and see "rich white people". On the other hand, especially in the Underground Railroad mentality, there is a massive affection for Moses "leading the Jews out of slavery". And so that gives fertile ground for a certain level of comradery -- the danger being in the modern world, it will be a political agreement with words and ideas rather than actual experiences.

As I've tried to say many times, it's understandable one might sympathize with early Zionism, and I'm being sincere about that. It would have been spiffy if there was some amount of settlement that was largely uncontested and didn't infringe on anyone already living there. Then there were some twenty years of increasingly-armed gangs, until, because it had a lot of foreign or Zionist support, it militarized and became the aggressor.

Somewhere around that point, the world should have pulled off the blinders and found the rotten core of the thing is what we have today. It has been largely unpopular to review the strategy, since the Truman Doctrine does not review strategies, it pours more money and power into it. This is what the public is asking to end. Largely because of Israel. That was the tipping point.

[Rizotto]

MUST WATCH.

This is a suitable thread for this presentation by Marjorie Taylor Green. Although she doesn't mention 'zionism', we all know that Epstein trafficked american kids to blackmail powerful men for zionist Israel's benefit. We all know that many of the 'friends' that Trump is trying to cover up for are zionists, or blackmailed by zionists.

Trump's Epstein Phone Call - The Recording That Ended Everything

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kDIqVSSyYXE

[Rizotto]

Friend and Epstein collaborator, zionist billionaire Lex Wessner claimed to be possessed?..

Epstein Files Bombshell – Demon Possession Exposed?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mYIFiG0Jj-Y

[onawah]

If you click on "more" on that youtube page and then scroll down you will see this:"How this was made Altered or synthetic content Sound or visuals were significantly edited or digitally generated. Learn more "
And if you scroll down further and click on "About" you will see this: "MTG: Political Insider Description
⚠️ Disclaimer: Fan-made channel not affiliated with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Educational content inspired by her political statements and congressional experience. Synthesized voice used for educational purposes only."

Posted by Rizotto (here)
MUST WATCH.

This is a suitable thread for this presentation by Marjorie Taylor Green. Although she doesn't mention 'zionism', we all know that Epstein trafficked american kids to blackmail powerful men for zionist Israel's benefit. We all know that many of the 'friends' that Trump is trying to cover up for are zionists, or blackmailed by zionists.

Trump's Epstein Phone Call - The Recording That Ended Everything

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kDIqVSSyYXE

[Kryztian]

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.


“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”
— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

“We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return.”
David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar’s Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

[Rizotto]

Posted by onawah (here)
If you click on "more" on that youtube page and then scroll down you will see this:"How this was made Altered or synthetic content Sound or visuals were significantly edited or digitally generated. Learn more "
And if you scroll down further and click on "About" you will see this: "MTG: Political Insider Description
⚠️ Disclaimer: Fan-made channel not affiliated with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Educational content inspired by her political statements and congressional experience. Synthesized voice used for educational purposes only."

Posted by Rizotto (here)
MUST WATCH.

This is a suitable thread for this presentation by Marjorie Taylor Green. Although she doesn't mention 'zionism', we all know that Epstein trafficked american kids to blackmail powerful men for zionist Israel's benefit. We all know that many of the 'friends' that Trump is trying to cover up for are zionists, or blackmailed by zionists.

Trump's Epstein Phone Call - The Recording That Ended Everything

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kDIqVSSyYXE

Thanks Onawah for pointing that out. I hadn't noticed at all. Those AI videos are problematic, and I try to avoid them... if I can spot the AI.

[Agape]

Zeroing on Truth takes time of thousands of years and millions of human generations to accomplish.

Each time some "clown" dressed up in the right suit , protected by many safe zones and vaults claims they got it right this time and have the power to act, and the power over that truth ,
the civilisation empire falls to darkness.

How long it takes to "spot the difference" between real and unreal ?

How long again, is it going to take before many generations of modern humans who never left their safe zone, their safe cubicle but keep calling all the Life out there illusory , non existent ,
merely a computer animation waiting for upgrade .

Religious war ? Their God and Our God ? Are there still people in your country who can not count to 3 ? We put people with intelligence of that low category , usually following atavistic genomic disorder to healthcare institutions Sir because they can not commonly survive in modern society without help.

No matter the nation or the country our younger generations study all the advanced calculus to "understand God" or perhaps to "explore his noble ways".

All religious people will agree that God is of One Kind and Is Kind and Merciful.

Can't you exactly look at the time frame we look at and name the war ?

The war of extremely Rich and extremely Poor , the large numbers of whom posed an Annoyance to all advanced "leaders" on Earth no matter who or what they are ,

in the Name of advanced Human Ego.

The Egg of your civilisation is soonly breaking because every Egg of Civilisation based in Ego of a Man eventually breaks, Y, because Man is too small to contained such a Big Planetary Ego.



Zooming further onto the truth, your historical records are and Always Been subsidiary to the Greater Truth .

The Greater Truth eventually embraces only itself . It does not need our help with it but truly , who are we .


Don't make me sad. For all the people whose work you have stolen , those people again were sent over the Sea.

It's "we want better future" on this Planet Sir, we want better future without your wars, your pollution, your loud speakers, lasers and disneyland ,
clean, beautiful, bubble like future.

I wish them all to go home, watch Homer and eat their munchies instead

in the name of Alak the Same , the Most Benevolent and Merciful.



It's alak alak Sir, one and the same. Different but same, same but different.


The bullet flying in the air eventually hits those who were talking too much but pardon me there are still few people even here on the forum who for God's Sake never met talking Jew in life..

They're all great people but eventually they/we all get shot for too much talking and the current vaccinations did not improve it guess for the mercury content that makes you think even faster .

Your right we are in terrible situation but it's late and time to Zoom at the Truth from truly impersonal perspective .


Shalom Ben Gurion

May Peace Be With you


🙏✨🙏

[shaberon]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs.

David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

This is a theological untruth. What does he mean by it?

My understanding is that the belief is not the same. Judaism is monolatry, which says, there are other gods, destroy them and their followers. Islam is monotheism, which says the others simply do not exist.

The belief that the Torah justifies Zionism is certainly not held by anyone outside of that clique, particularly not by other Jews, so these candid remarks by statesmen are about some kind of made-up religious distortion. Sad but effective.

[rgray222]

Posted by Agape (here)
Zeroing on Truth takes time of thousands of years and millions of human generations to accomplish.

Each time some "clown" dressed up in the right suit , protected by many safe zones and vaults claims they got it right this time and have the power to act, and the power over that truth ,
the civilisation empire falls to darkness.

How long it takes to "spot the difference" between real and unreal ?

How long again, is it going to take before many generations of modern humans who never left their safe zone, their safe cubicle but keep calling all the Life out there illusory , non existent ,
merely a computer animation waiting for upgrade .

Religious war ? Their God and Our God ? Are there still people in your country who can not count to 3 ? We put people with intelligence of that low category , usually following atavistic genomic disorder to healthcare institutions Sir because they can not commonly survive in modern society without help.

No matter the nation or the country our younger generations study all the advanced calculus to "understand God" or perhaps to "explore his noble ways".

All religious people will agree that God is of One Kind and Is Kind and Merciful.

Can't you exactly look at the time frame we look at and name the war ?

The war of extremely Rich and extremely Poor , the large numbers of whom posed an Annoyance to all advanced "leaders" on Earth no matter who or what they are ,

in the Name of advanced Human Ego.

The Egg of your civilisation is soonly breaking because every Egg of Civilisation based in Ego of a Man eventually breaks, Y, because Man is too small to contained such a Big Planetary Ego.



Zooming further onto the truth, your historical records are and Always Been subsidiary to the Greater Truth .

The Greater Truth eventually embraces only itself . It does not need our help with it but truly , who are we .


Don't make me sad. For all the people whose work you have stolen , those people again were sent over the Sea.

It's "we want better future" on this Planet Sir, we want better future without your wars, your pollution, your loud speakers, lasers and disneyland ,
clean, beautiful, bubble like future.

I wish them all to go home, watch Homer and eat their munchies instead

in the name of Alak the Same , the Most Benevolent and Merciful.



It's alak alak Sir, one and the same. Different but same, same but different.


The bullet flying in the air eventually hits those who were talking too much but pardon me there are still few people even here on the forum who for God's Sake never met talking Jew in life..

They're all great people but eventually they/we all get shot for too much talking and the current vaccinations did not improve it guess for the mercury content that makes you think even faster .

Your right we are in terrible situation but it's late and time to Zoom at the Truth from truly impersonal perspective .


Shalom Ben Gurion

May Peace Be With you


🙏✨🙏

Ego seeks justice and causes war, understanding seeks peace with humility and awareness. Peace is the pursuit of the higher, universal truth beyond ego-driven conflict. At the core of our limitations lies ego; this barrier is just too difficult for some people to move beyond. Some cheer sides on in war and ignore the universal cry for harmony and peace. It is not an overstatement to say that our destiny hinges upon each individual hearing and understanding the universal call for peace.

[Kryztian]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by Kryztian (here)
It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs.

David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

This is a theological untruth. What does he mean by it?

You aren't going to find a rational answer to this question in the Torah or Talmud or any systematic Jewish philosophy. The Hassidim, who are the best rabbinical scholars are mostly anti-Zionist. I think this paradox is best explained by the Israeli historian Ilan Pappé in this succinct quote:

“Most Zionists do not believe in the existence of God, but they believe that He promised them Palestine.”

[Rizotto]

Allowing zionism to infiltrate USA's institutions simply resulted in the subjugation of USA.
I think that's the case for many, if not most, western countries, especially UK.
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Whistle Blower & retired Green Beret Anthony Aguilar explains how ICE learned Israeli oppression tactics are being imported to the U.S.

00:00 ICE is learning how to abuse in the USA from the IDF
02:04 The violence USA inflicts in South America will come back to the homeland
03:06 Making all the connections between Israel and the murder of Renee Good
04:03 Anthony saw the IDF training US combatants in Gaza
05:24 DHS Strategic Plan exposes $169 billion ICE expansion
06:54 Donald Trump’s national security strategy
07:47 USA Is Now Under “FULL CONTROL” of Israel
09:42 What Israel wants of USA in Venezuela
10:36 USA’s debt and Guyana

Anthony Aguilar is a retired United States Army Lieutenant Colonel & Special Forces officer (Green Beret) who served for 25 years in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Jordan & the Philippines. He is also a whistle blower who exposed crimes he witnessed as a security contractor working with the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.

USA Is Now Under “FULL CONTROL” of Israel - Green Beret

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rg9WJ14MulQ

[Rizotto]

The ADL (a zionist organization) labelled Charlie Kirk's TPUSA as an 'extremist group'...

ADL Leader Accidentally EXPOSES Kash Patel! This is DANGEROUS

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9n_a3mHEryA

[Squareinthecircle]

[shaberon]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
Ilan Pappé in this succinct quote:

“Most Zionists do not believe in the existence of God, but they believe that He promised them Palestine.”

That's hilarious, I've never heard it before.

It would be basically the same as the view of the Patriarch of Jerusalem.

I certainly have not noticed Neuterei Karta or Jews Against Zionism come into the foreground. It's as if the actual Jews and Orthodox Christians don't exist.

[Rizotto]

This video isn't specifically about zionism. It's about the end result of embracing the genocidal cult that zionism devolved into. Which is to become hated the world over for all the evil they've done.

"In this urgent report, I expose why Israelis are now being mass deported or denied entry by countries around the world – from Eastern Europe to South America, from the Maldives to even North Korea. These are not isolated incidents. They are a direct consequence of Israel’s policies, its ongoing atrocities against Palestinians, and a historic collapse in Israel’s global image.
Watch to the end to understand how all of this connects to war crimes, apartheid, racism, and Western hypocrisy – and why platforms like YouTube are punishing channels that dare to tell the truth."

Israelis SUDDENLY Mass Deported From Many Countries

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BJAab5bH_6Y