Turmoil in the United States

[Chip]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by jaybee (here)
You don't need to be a genius to work out that dividing and demoralizing Trump supporters and voters is the name of the Deep State Globalist's game.

Kim Iversen strongly suspects that all this is being engineered to divide the nation, though her guest, Craig "Pasta" Jardula (a journalist who is a Bernie Sanders supporter), talking to many of the protesters there, states that as best as he was able to discover they are not actually being funded or paid.

Who's Really Funding The Anti-ICE Protestors?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1QwMAe8knxk

Former congresswomen Marjorie Taylor Greene posted this similar response on X .

While you are being gas lit by the Political Industrial Complex, all over social media and the news telling you what you are supposed to be outraged about, think about this.

Republicans funded the Refugee Program by nearly $6 billion of your tax payer dollars in the DHS appropriations bill even though you have been losing your mind about paying for refugee funding while you discovered all the Somalia fraud.

And the DHS appropriations bill funds all of Homeland Security including ICE.

Now you have watched a shooting video probably over 30 times trying to figure out what happened, while a near civil war is being fueled in MN.

But look past the hype and focus in on the granular details.

The DHS bill funds both ICE and Refugee Programs.

The DHS bill funds doubling H2B visas and deportations at the same time.

Do you see how the Uniparty in Washington funds both sides and then gas lights you and drives you to hate each other?

It is all manufactured to drive your outrage and that is how they make money.

When the American People stop being baited into fighting each other, the American People will defeat the Political Industrial Complex that divides us all and can work to truly put Americans First.

https://x.com/fmrrepmtg/status/2015421468423729606?s=12

[norman]

Don't confuse the right wing of the uniparty with the Trump revolution.

Don't confuse keeping the Jewish lobby and it's 80 million voters sweet with being a zionist either.

[norman]

US border tsar Tom Homan's Minneapolis news conference
Sky News - 1 hour ago

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Le1RQXSvX-M

[Bill Ryan]

Just making a general comment here.

It's easy to find videos (and X posts), whether long or short, passionately arguing all aspects both of the general ICE situation and current USG policies in general. I don't have the time to watch any but a few. But I do scan the comments, which are often revealing.

What I see is that the polarization is extreme. 60-70% of the comments — on all sides of every debate — express every form of hate, disdain, cheap insult, prejudice, and distorted view. Reasonable, nuanced, fully informed opinions are fairly rare.

My conclusion: there seems to be almost zero hope for any agreement or reconciliation. The American people, fueled by targeted social media, allegiance to their tribes, and often lacking detailed or accurate information (whatever it may be!), just have no chance. It's a little hard to see things getting better.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by sdv (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Here's a closer look at what Alex Petti was up to one week before he was killed.

He doesn't appear to me to be the calm and peaceful sweet little harmless nurse and innocent bystander so many are claiming him to be.

https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/

Phew! What kind of savage jungle has the world become that the public execution of someone (unarmed and prone on the ground) by shooting him multiple times is justified because he spat in the direction of someone and kicked and broke a taillight of a moving car on a previous occasion?

That there is even a discussion about if the killing of Good and Petti was justified or not is very disturbing. The killings were not even accidental. And if the two people murdered were what you judge to be good people or not is irrelevant.

Is it possible for people to step away from the violence and the cult-like thinking of politics and find a clear, rational way to behave?

Personally, I am not a fan of unregulated and uncontrolled immigration. How can a government, at any level, govern effectively if it does not know how many people there are, what their needs are, what their skills are, etc.? If there are not enough job opportunities or housing or schools or health care facilities or public transport, and so on, how are these people going to sustain themselves? It is a fact of life that especially in times of financial and material hardship, locals become angry when immigrants take up space and resources (longer queues at health care clinics and lack of spending on infrastructure, etc.), and tend to scapegoat the newcomers. Especially in cities, all over the world countries are facing the consequences of increasing immigration. Governments should lead the way in managing conflict and the challenge of using resources for the benefit of all, not send out an armed militia with zero accountability to terrorize communities.

According to your statement and logic you must believe that unarmed Ashley Babbitt was also publicly executed and her killing was not even accidental?????

Pretti, Good, and even Babbitt "chose" criminal/unlawful behavior and to insert themselves in a dangerous and high risk environment. They risked arrest, injury, or even death, etc. All three ended up dead. Did they deserve to die for their actions? Personally, I don't believe so, but they did die.

Choices have consequences, sometimes severe.

[Chip]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Just making a general comment here.

It's easy to find videos (and X posts), whether long or short, passionately arguing all aspects both of the general ICE situation and current USG policies in general. I don't have the time to watch any but a few. But I do scan the comments, which are often revealing.

What I see is that the polarization is extreme. 60-70% of the comments — on all sides of every debate — express every form of hate, disdain, cheap insult, prejudice, and distorted view. Reasonable, nuanced, fully informed opinions are fairly rare.

My conclusion: there seems to be almost zero hope for any agreement or reconciliation. The American people, fueled by targeted social media, allegiance to their tribes, and often lacking detailed or accurate information (whatever it may be!), just have no chance. It's a little hard to see things getting better.

I’m with you Bill on this observation, and I’d add a few soft edges to it.

What feels most destabilizing isn’t disagreement itself, but the collapse of shared meaning. Social platforms don’t just amplify outrage; they algorithmically reward it.
In this environment, people aren’t really arguing policies or facts — they’re defending identities, status, and belonging. Once that happens, information stops functioning as common ground and becomes ammunition.

I don’t think Americans are uniquely hateful or incapable of reconciliation; I think we’re caught inside systems that monetize division and compress complex realities into tribal shorthand. Nuance requires time, attention, and good faith — all three are structurally discouraged. That doesn’t mean reconciliation is impossible, but it likely won’t emerge from mass discourse or viral debate. It will come, if it comes at all, from smaller circles, slower conversations, and people willing to tolerate ambiguity without immediately reaching for an enemy.

So yes, the picture at scale looks grim. But I’m not sure the failure is primarily moral — it’s systemic, psychological, and technological. And those are harder problems.
I’m more inclined to reference archonic sources for this thought structure such as Rudolf Steiner might suggest but most of us at PA are probably already well aware of this.

[bojancan]

I think this topic also "deserve" in this thread... it's not good for the people in US at all...... also around the world... she is so right... both parties are NOT...


Jan, 29
REMOVE TikTok From Your Phone IMMEDIATELY!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dCTYcMzOyZ4

[rgray222]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Just making a general comment here.

When individuals believe that recovery or reconciliation is impossible, they begin to lose hope. Hope is a vital psychological resource that helps people endure difficult times. Without it, they become more susceptible to influence and control. When people feel hopeless, they often seek comfort by entrusting their problems to a higher power. This practice has been common among Christians, Muslims, addicts, alcoholics, and homeless individuals for many years as a way to restore hope and find strength.

Today, there is a growing effort to encourage people to seek hope through global systems of governance, rather than through faith in God.


It's easy to find videos (and X posts), whether long or short, passionately arguing all aspects both of the general ICE situation and current USG policies in general. I don't have the time to watch any but a few. But I do scan the comments, which are often revealing.

What I see is that the polarization is extreme. 60-70% of the comments — on all sides of every debate — express every form of hate, disdain, cheap insult, prejudice, and distorted view. Reasonable, nuanced, fully informed opinions are fairly rare.

My conclusion: there seems to be almost zero hope for any agreement or reconciliation. The American people, fueled by targeted social media, allegiance to their tribes, and often lacking detailed or accurate information (whatever it may be!), just have no chance. It's a little hard to see things getting better.

Keep in mind, when people feel that there is zero chance for recovery or reconcilation they are losing hope. When they start losing that vital psychological resource that sustains them through hardships, they become easily influenced and controlled. When people feel hopeless, they become eager to turn over all their problems to a higher power. Christians, Muslims, addicts, alcoholics, the homeless, etc., have been doing this for a very long time. It is a great way for people to restore hope. Today, there is an effort to have people restore hope at the altar of global governance instead of the altar of God.

[Ravenlocke]

BreakThrough News

BREAKING: Students at Marietta High School say they were blocked from walking out to protest ICE today as district administrators attempted to physically restrain students exercising free speech on a national day of action against Trump’s anti-immigrant offensive.

https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/2017305463797518618

[Ravenlocke]

Acyn

CNN in Minneapolis: We are seeing thousands and thousands of people, we've been standing on the corner here for the past ten minutes. This crowd has not let up. It's just continuous.

I've covered many protests, especially in New York City. And I have to tell you, I've not seen a crowd like this before. It is eight degrees out here, eight degrees. It feels like five. It is freezing, but nothing, nothing is stopping these people

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2017346365408612498

[Ravenlocke]

Minnesota House DFL

The crowd protesting against ICE in Minneapolis is growing larger every minute.

Similar marches are happening all across the country.

Minnesotans have had enough. Our country has had enough. ICE OUT NOW

https://x.com/mnhouseDFL/status/2017340437791453512

[Ravenlocke]

Reuters Legal

The U.S. Justice Department has started a civil rights investigation into the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti by a federal immigration officer in Minneapolis, a senior official said on Friday.

https://x.com/ReutersLegal/status/2017318180331364690

[Ravenlocke]

Reuters Legal

The lawsuit by the Greater Boston Latino Network and Brazilian Worker Center marked the first case to challenge the constitutionality of a policy laid out in a May memo.

https://x.com/ReutersLegal/status/2017290477993640428

[Ravenlocke]

BreakThrough News

BREAKING: Huge crowd demands “ICE out of Seattle!” They join hundreds of thousands across the U.S. walking out, striking from work and boycotting spending on this national day of action against Trump’s anti-immigrant platform.

https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/2017372227621294416

[Ravenlocke]

Carlos R Munoz

The bells toll at Brown University as hundreds of student protesters begin marching toward the Rhode Island State House during an #IceOut protest in Providence.

https://x.com/ReadCarlos/status/2017367673915511258

[Ravenlocke]

Yassamin Ansari

Shut it down. #ICEOUT

I am so proud of our community. Keeping speaking out, Arizona.

https://x.com/yassaminansari/status/2017336396412031471

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/rena_korb/status/2017346296160624913

https://x.com/WashInformer/status/2017305278677393554

Union of Southern Service Workers
@RaiseUptheSouth
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Today in Durham, high school students walked out and with community members demanding ICE out of our communities.

From Minnesota to the South, we’ve seen the fear, the violence, and the way communities still show up for each other.
#IceOut #Solidarity #OrganizeTheSouth

https://x.com/RaiseUptheSouth/status...58181672853906

[Ravenlocke]

BreakThrough News

🚨 BREAKING: Massive crowd of 1000s takes the streets in Los Angeles in solidarity with Minneapolis as part of the anti-ICE nationwide shutdown.

https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/2017374923329806510

BreakThrough News

NOW: Massive crowd at Stanford University joins nationwide anti-ICE demonstrations today, calling for an end to anti-immigrant terror in U.S. cities.

https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/2017373404853326288

[Ravenlocke]

Anadolu English


— ‘The word (that) came from the president of the United States was devastating, and it damaged our credibility and damaged our values’

—‘Calling us ‘garbage,’ that word, we do not accept that’

🗣️ US President Donald Trump launches repeated attacks on the Somali-American community, calling it “garbage” and alleging massive fraud that has cost taxpayers billions

📍 In Minneapolis, home to about 100,000 Somali Americans, residents respond with anger, disbelief, and confusion over the claims http://v.aa.com.tr/3815905

https://x.com/anadoluagency/status/2017368282924519596

[Ravenlocke]

Suppressed News.

⚡️🇺🇸JUST IN:

A judge released Don Lemon on his own recognizance after his indictment over an ICE protest that disrupted a church service in Minnesota, rejecting prosecutors’ request for a $100,000 bond and refusing to limit his travel.

https://x.com/SuppressedNws1/status/2017380939983118786