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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

    Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

    Other facts:
    - Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
    - This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
    - A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)

    If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

    I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.
    My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
    I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
    The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
    If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

    RRR
    I had a Mauser 30-06 many many years ago and could hit a gallon water jug with it at a 100yards all day long. (with open sights). I always had to rest the gun on a fence post or something though.

    Personally, I think if this shooter did use this same gun at 200 yards and hit Charlie with it, he must of known the gun VERY well and probably had a good sighted in scope on it. I wouldn't say it's impossible that this was the gun used.

    Regardless, this will probably be another one of those events we'll never really know the truth about.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

    Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

    Other facts:
    - Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
    - This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
    - A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)

    If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

    I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.
    My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
    I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
    The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
    If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

    RRR
    I had a Mauser 30-06 many many years ago and could hit a gallon water jug with it at a 100yards all day long. (with open sights). I always had to rest the gun on a fence post or something though.

    Personally, I think if this shooter did use this same gun at 200 yards and hit Charlie with it, he must of known the gun VERY well and probably had a good sighted in scope on it. I wouldn't say it's impossible that this was the gun used.

    Regardless, this will probably be another one of those events we'll never really know the truth about.
    Yeah well we have not been told the truth about many things and then these things are forgotten about or just linger, but i think this is different, people have had enough and are really angry and emotional, i think the push to know the truth will not go away as readily as before, people are openly speaking out regarding issues they were previously afraid to speak about, this effed up killing is bringing people together, there will be a price to pay to those fools who openly celebrate Charlies murder and are calling for others on the right to be Next.
    The prone roof shooter (if he were the gunman) prolly had a bi pod or even a rolled up Tshirt as a rest and open sights are cool when prone with a rest, but your 100 yrds is only half the distance as the Kirk shot and a gallon container is (from memory, we are meters) wider than a human neck, so if it was an unhinged lefty i doubt they could pull this off.

    Sounds like you have been around firearms and know a thing or two, but most lefties wouldnt even know which end to put the bullet in, and like i said a pro (assassin) would not choose a mauser, thats just mental, unless im missing something.

    BTW SilentFeathers, im not trying to ruffle your feathers, just sayin it as i see it, stay cool.............................. RRR
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

    Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

    Other facts:
    - Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
    - This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
    - A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)

    If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

    I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying
    I strongly object to your accusation that I'm blaming "Jews". In fact, I have NEVER blamed 'Jews'. There are many Jewish folks whom I like and admire. I firmly believe its absurd to make an accusation on the basis of someone's ethnicity or religious affiliation.

    I have commented, and will continue to do so, about the crimes committed by ZIONISTS and ISRAEL, and the evidence that they're involved in various undercover criminal acts.
    Such as the Epstein child trafficking & blackmail operation, which by the way, Charlie Kirk also stated was connected to Israeli intelligence.

    Your accusation of 'Jew blaming' is the same old trick used by zionists and the Israel government to muddle the issue and throw false accusations of 'anti-semitism at anyone who denounce their crimes.

    In fact, many Jews oppose zionism and Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

    Look up the website "Jewish Voice for Peace", their article entitled:
    On Antisemitism, Anti-Zionism and Dangerous Conflations
    https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/...ism-dangerous/

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    I believe investigative journalist George Webb is onto something in this video. He has convinced me that certain criminal elements in the Mormon church might be responsible for this very professional hit job, he calls them the Mitt Romney faction:

    https://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/...51249050640673
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

    Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

    Other facts:
    - Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
    - This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
    - A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)

    If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

    I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.
    My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
    I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
    The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
    If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

    RRR
    I had a Mauser 30-06 many many years ago and could hit a gallon water jug with it at a 100yards all day long. (with open sights). I always had to rest the gun on a fence post or something though.

    Personally, I think if this shooter did use this same gun at 200 yards and hit Charlie with it, he must of known the gun VERY well and probably had a good sighted in scope on it. I wouldn't say it's impossible that this was the gun used.

    Regardless, this will probably be another one of those events we'll never really know the truth about.
    Yeah well we have not been told the truth about many things and then these things are forgotten about or just linger, but i think this is different, people have had enough and are really angry and emotional, i think the push to know the truth will not go away as readily as before, people are openly speaking out regarding issues they were previously afraid to speak about, this effed up killing is bringing people together, there will be a price to pay to those fools who openly celebrate Charlies murder and are calling for others on the right to be Next.
    The prone roof shooter (if he were the gunman) prolly had a bi pod or even a rolled up Tshirt as a rest and open sights are cool when prone with a rest, but your 100 yrds is only half the distance as the Kirk shot and a gallon container is (from memory, we are meters) wider than a human neck, so if it was an unhinged lefty i doubt they could pull this off.

    Sounds like you have been around firearms and know a thing or two, but most lefties wouldnt even know which end to put the bullet in, and like i said a pro (assassin) would not choose a mauser, thats just mental, unless im missing something.

    BTW SilentFeathers, im not trying to ruffle your feathers, just sayin it as i see it, stay cool.............................. RRR
    You're not ruffling my feathers, I agree with you to a large extent. I don't believe this was a leftie unfamiliar with guns, this was an experienced with a gun lefty at the least. By the way, I also made some crazy longer shots with that old mauser 30.06, LOL

    Yes, there's a possibility this was a pro hit, but at this point I'm personally not thinking it was, nor do I think it was mossad/Israel. I'm leaning towards it was a rather methodical leftie with a few firing brain cells and VERY familiar with guns that killed Charlie. I may be wrong, but that's where my mind is right now.

    I do know I'm likely correct about this next statement; I think there will be more of this, these lunatics have just got a shot in the arm of happy insanity juice over this and have become even more embolden, they think doing things like assassinating conservatives is "progress". Violence is becoming very easy for them and they believe they are in the right no matter what they do. These lunatics are actually inciting more assassinations of conservative publicly online right now, they are even posting lists of names that should be next.

    This is about to get really ugly as many conservatives have really had enough of this nonsense and have about reached the point to where fighting back is about the only option. Everyone has a breaking point.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Thank you all for the continued updates. For what it's worth, a month ago, Harrison Smith on InfoWars addressed Charlie Kirk, urging him not to fear the Israeli donor lobby that had been threatening him. Smith, on X, wrote: “I was told by someone close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against them.” Former FBI agent Stuart Kaplan called it a “well-planned professional hit.” Harrison highlighted a segment from Kirk’s show where Kirk admitted he was “terrified,” and, commenting on it, Harrison argued that Kirk was in fact terrified not of Islamists but of Israelis.




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    People get assasinated to achieve certain political & sociological effects that are beneficial to keep narrative control and manipulating the minds of the massa(,5th generation warfare;mindcontrol). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everywhere in the west -UK,Netherlands,Germany,France -its the same playbook; all types of killings/asssasinations to create outrage,division,polarization culiminating in chaos,so that totalitarian surveillance policies & more censorship can be rolled out & justified without too much push back. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The powers behind this strategy of creating more conflict between the so called "left & right"(wich is a false divisive concept) and between the pro & anti war movements, the pro & anti first & second amendment defenders ,the pro & anti Zionist/Aipac/Israel First or pro & anti Palestine , America first /MAGA etc., would have more than 1 reason to assassinate Charlie Kirk to have that effect and distract the Americans from all the immoral lawlessness happening in Qatar,Venezuela Gaza,Ukraine etc.with their taxdollars. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the Zionist or Mr Global or whoever powerfull enough want to let this happen they dont need to organize an assasination necessarily themselves;they can simply let it happen by not interfering ( the failed assasination of Donald Trump in Butler ,when security gave the sniper a blind eye &let him undisturbed ,so he could shoot without being stopped.?) and then wash their hands in innocence -plausible deny_abilty- because the 'patsy' did it for them without that he was even aware that he was given the space to do it fo fulfill a political agenda.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or even by hypnotizing someone -unaware- into an assasin as Dennen Brown ,the hypnotist has demonstrated in his video's. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------Bottom line;If someone has to be silenced or sacrificed,they have 7 ways to sunday to do so --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.A message of intimidation to all political activists;be careful,even if you'r rich,famous or influentual ;you can lose your position ,your freedom or even your life in the wink of an eye if you choose to speak the forbidden truth ,question the mainstream narrative or even call for fair debate .------------------------------------------------------------------------------In a world ruled by lies & deception ,questioning & speaking the truth can be a dangerous thing!

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    has anyone looked into the two guys behind charlie where they look like the are giving weird hand signals?? it's all over tiktok and youtube

    meanwhile i have dem friends that think Trump and co sacrificed him for the greater good.
    re: not releasing epstein files which he was starting to talk about not to mention he was talking about isreal in a poor light.
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    '🔎 Who Assassinated Charlie Kirk? Psychic Insights + Hidden Motives'. --32 min--11/9/25--Live with Craig: Questions answered about the Charlie Kirk assassination — who did it, why, and what psychic insights reveal behind the motive. Was it politically motivated? Who stands to gain? Dive into hidden forces, spiritual symbolism, predictions, and possible conspiracies as Craig Hamilton-Parker decodes the event, reveals psychic impressions, and explores what this means for the nation.'

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Well, as with Sandy Hook someone had extraordinary foreknowledge, so much so that allegedly an entire book about Charlie Kirk and the aftermath of the shooting and what happens next, was captured by the Internet Archive on September 9th.

    The link with timestamp towards the bottom of this page clearly visible:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20250911.../dp/B0FQMF466K.

    However, as has been questioned on this thread on X, it could have been a hack of some sort, or an AI generated text.

    I'm inclined to the latter.

    Still...............


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    Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

    Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

    Other facts:
    - Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
    - This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
    - A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)

    If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

    I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.
    My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
    I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
    The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
    If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

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    I had a Mauser 30-06 many many years ago and could hit a gallon water jug with it at a 100yards all day long. (with open sights). I always had to rest the gun on a fence post or something though.

    Personally, I think if this shooter did use this same gun at 200 yards and hit Charlie with it, he must of known the gun VERY well and probably had a good sighted in scope on it. I wouldn't say it's impossible that this was the gun used.

    Regardless, this will probably be another one of those events we'll never really know the truth about.
    Yeah well we have not been told the truth about many things and then these things are forgotten about or just linger, but i think this is different, people have had enough and are really angry and emotional, i think the push to know the truth will not go away as readily as before, people are openly speaking out regarding issues they were previously afraid to speak about, this effed up killing is bringing people together, there will be a price to pay to those fools who openly celebrate Charlies murder and are calling for others on the right to be Next.
    The prone roof shooter (if he were the gunman) prolly had a bi pod or even a rolled up Tshirt as a rest and open sights are cool when prone with a rest, but your 100 yrds is only half the distance as the Kirk shot and a gallon container is (from memory, we are meters) wider than a human neck, so if it was an unhinged lefty i doubt they could pull this off.

    Sounds like you have been around firearms and know a thing or two, but most lefties wouldnt even know which end to put the bullet in, and like i said a pro (assassin) would not choose a mauser, thats just mental, unless im missing something.

    BTW SilentFeathers, im not trying to ruffle your feathers, just sayin it as i see it, stay cool.............................. RRR
    You're not ruffling my feathers, I agree with you to a large extent. I don't believe this was a leftie unfamiliar with guns, this was an experienced with a gun lefty at the least. By the way, I also made some crazy longer shots with that old mauser 30.06, LOL

    Yes, there's a possibility this was a pro hit, but at this point I'm personally not thinking it was, nor do I think it was mossad/Israel. I'm leaning towards it was a rather methodical leftie with a few firing brain cells and VERY familiar with guns that killed Charlie. I may be wrong, but that's where my mind is right now.

    I do know I'm likely correct about this next statement; I think there will be more of this, these lunatics have just got a shot in the arm of happy insanity juice over this and have become even more embolden, they think doing things like assassinating conservatives is "progress". Violence is becoming very easy for them and they believe they are in the right no matter what they do. These lunatics are actually inciting more assassinations of conservative publicly online right now, they are even posting lists of names that should be next.

    This is about to get really ugly as many conservatives have really had enough of this nonsense and have about reached the point to where fighting back is about the only option. Everyone has a breaking point.
    " I don't believe this was a leftie unfamiliar with guns,"............ i agree, but im not sure about a gun familiar lefty either,

    "Yes, there's a possibility this was a pro hit"...........The Israel connection is worth considering, what do you make about the plane that took off close to the shooting and took off only about 5-10 mins AFTER the shooting and turned off its transponder (or something like that) which is against the rules, i cant help thinking its a pro job and whom ever is charged over the murder is a patsy .

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    Very interesting analysis by Kim Iversen, on the pros & cons of the most likely suspect to have murdered Charlie Kirk: trans, Israel, or Ukraine?
    Kim makes a really good point that Charlie Kirk had been consistent for years in his position about trans ideology, and on the Ukraine war. But on the issue of Israel, Charlie Kirk had during the last few months changed his strong support for Israel to questioning Israel's grip on USA politics. Given Charlie Kirk's huge audience, that shift was worrisome for Israel.

    One more interesting detail: Netanyahu allegedly invited Charlie Kirk a couple of weeks prior to the murder, an invitation that Kirk allegedly declined.

    This murder looks like a professional job, a very skilled shooter, and team work with decoy suspects that distracted the police while the killer was fleeing.

    Who Killed Charlie Kirk? Israel? Trans-Activists? Ukraine?
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    ' To My Friend, Charlie Kirk.' -- 23 min--12/9/25 --"Good men must die, but death can't kill their names." - CHARLIE KIRK ( 2013 )
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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)

    ...'Jew blaming' is the same old trick used by zionists and the Israel government to muddle the issue and throw false accusations of 'anti-semitism at anyone who denounce their crimes.

    In fact, many Jews oppose zionism and Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

    Look up the website "Jewish Voice for Peace", their article entitled:
    On Antisemitism, Anti-Zionism and Dangerous Conflations
    https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/...ism-dangerous/
    Thanks for again stressing the difference between Zionism and Judaism, which, and it surprises me that here on the forum of all places, there is still confusion on this issue

    I, too, am sick to death of this egregious conflation and its continued promulgation, whether through forgiveable ignorance, or wilful association through intellectual laziness, and as a result of being eternally brow-beaten through educational systems with that eternal nonsense

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    My goodness, Suzanne Moore, who used to write Op-Eds for the Guardian has contributed a strong piece for the Telegraph. For those still dealing in lazy/idle Left-Right paradigms the Guardian and Telegraph always sat on the opposite sides of the fence, although both should be treated with extreme caution.

    All the same, here's the thrust:
    "What has disturbed me so much about Kirk’s murder and the reaction to it is how it shines a light on the absolute aversion so many people have to any notion of debate or disagreement....

    I say this as someone who is opposed to most of Kirk’s views and is also aware that political violence belongs to the Right as much as the Left....

    Kirk has been dismissed as some kind of Hitler – as Donald Trump and Nigel Farage are also lazily described by their critics. To the strand of the Left that cannot tolerate any dissent from their ideology, he was a white supremacist and a defender of Israel and therefore it’s a good thing that he’s been killed. So many so-called Antifa – self-declared anti-fascists – appear to prefer violence to debate.....

    The truth is that anyone who wants to debate or challenge Left-wing orthodoxy in Britain also faces risks, from losing their jobs to constant verbal abuse and serious physical threats. Women who are deemed 'gender critical' receive threats of assault, rape and death. That has been my life for more than 10 years.....

    There has been an unravelling of both reality and plurality that has been cheered on by those who paint themselves as kind and virtuous....

    Free speech has been imperilled. Authoritarianism rules.....

    There is an ever-growing fault line, which is not easily definable as Left or Right, between those who believe in freedom of expression and those who don’t.....

    This is a very dark time. The worrying fact is that, if society suppresses political differences or debate, then political violence follows. As George Bernard Shaw said: 'Assassination is the extreme form of censorship'.....

    When people who purport to deplore violence go on social media to justify murder, a point has been reached from which we, as a society, can never return. This is fascism in action." The Telegraph

    https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09...tolerant-left/
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    There is a clearer version out there, but, this shared by Matt Wallace on X - audio optional; all can determine what's happening here without commentary:



    UPDATE: a clearer shorter loop version here at 12 seconds duration

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    So ALLEGEDLY, ALLEGEDLY, ALLEGEDLY, dark corners of the interweb have got a suspect, or rather two.

    If true, It’s a duo, Omar Najera a self styled non binary person helped Skye Valadez, the shooter, a trans activist, teacher and musician, living in the metro area of salt lake.

    Interesting aside, if true, his/her father, Brandon Hegoas, worked or works for Northman Gunthrop.

    Skye is a shooter, or at the very least has pictures of him/her with a rifle and a moderator (silencer), not necessarily the gun used.

    As for speculation about the use of a bolt action rifle not being up to the job, for various practical reasons too long to explain, for their function, they outperform semiautomatic weapons almost every time, remember our best competitive and professional and military shooters use bolt guns all day long.

    It looks like the shot was center mass, ie the chest area, but the body armour redirected the bullet into his neck.

    Now that there is a hundred thousand dollar reward out for the shooter, we should know if this intel is true or not very soon. Now we’ll see.

    As an aside Pinterest or someone else has already scrubbed Skye’s page and pictures…

    Or these individuals are being set up as patsies.

    Either way I pray for his poor wife and children…...x……. N
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Very interesting analysis by Kim Iversen, on the pros & cons of the most likely suspect to have murdered Charlie Kirk: trans, Israel, or Ukraine?
    Kim makes a really good point that Charlie Kirk had been consistent for years in his position about trans ideology, and on the Ukraine war. But on the issue of Israel, Charlie Kirk had during the last few months changed his strong support for Israel to questioning Israel's grip on USA politics. Given Charlie Kirk's huge audience, that shift was worrisome for Israel.

    One more interesting detail: Netanyahu allegedly invited Charlie Kirk a couple of weeks prior to the murder, an invitation that Kirk allegedly declined.

    This murder looks like a professional job, a very skilled shooter, and team work with decoy suspects that distracted the police while the killer was fleeing.

    Who Killed Charlie Kirk? Israel? Trans-Activists? Ukraine?
    As usual, Rizotto has quickly pointed out what can be argued as the greatest likelihood. Many others are agreeing (including yours truly). Here's a DD Geopolitics poll:

    Who killed Charlie Kirk?
    Anonymous Poll
    • 13% Crazy Lone Shooter Tranny
    • 53% Mossad/Israel
    • 8% Ukrainian Intelligence
    • 7% Democrat Hit Man
    • 9% Inside FBI/DOJ job
    • 1% Peter Thiel's Tech Cult
    • 9% ShitLib GenZ Shooter

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