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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Thanks, Jean-Luc (post #97) for the SOTT link.

    As much as I generally regard SOTT as a festering source of disinfo, Woodsman, the guy who wrote this analysis of the WS Manifesto went a lot further than I dared to go in my initial post #32 in this thread.

    I know many PA members who have posted here find the Manifesto an invigorating and uplifting number and won't like what I'm going to say (apologies again, Constance), but Woodsman really saw through it and exposed the dark side of this video.

    Quote This video actually describes the exact attributes of the psychopath.

    The world is filled with pollution that prevents our minds from working properly. But instead of advising you how to recognize and cut out these poisons, this video is instead telling you that these symptoms of toxicity are actually evidence that you are special and magical.
    And so on.

    I wouldn't dismiss these comments as a mere rant.

    Quote (from the Manifesto) Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality, they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with The Way.
    If this isn't an invitation to condone psychopathic behavior, what is?

    Especially to the younger members of our community, for whom your skies are still filled with clouds of glory and rainbows, I suggest that you save Woodman's page somewhere, forget about it, try out LoPorto's ideas, then return to it again in five years and decide whether Woodsman had a point after all.
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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Thank you, Constance, for the wayseer video.
    (https://youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA)
    It is nice to see something that resonate with
    the true rebellious nature of humans.
    Watching it realy fired my mind and emotion, and
    my first impulse was to share it wide and high.

    But something does not feel right about this, and before
    jumping LoPortos wagon, I decided to do some searching.
    (I also work in media and know how easy it is to manipulate)

    I see that many of the things I ran across, and the secondary
    views on LoPortos Wayseer Community is allready covered.

    Thanks a lot to str8thinker for your solid perspectivation on this.
    It is highly needed, and you seem to have struck the truth in
    the LoPorto/wayseer matter.
    ...
    Being compared to "zook" is a sign of integrity and a true wayseer quality,
    even if Bill seem unable to recognize that fact. You are most valuable here.
    ( Adding smileys does not turn insults into humour, Bill. )
    ...
    The OP video,and subject, is potent stuff, and easily misused.
    What LoPorto labels the Wayseers are certainly a key to change,
    and therefore any initiative to lead that group must be scrutinized.
    Heavily and seriously.
    We wouldn't want anyone to lead us to storming a hill, when all
    that is needed is to sit down at the well, drinking from it ?

    LoPorto seems to have no idea where the well is. And in following
    video he demonstrates a dangerously low and/or false understanding
    of the real nature of dreaming.
    He is propogating here the essence of the programming from mainstream schooling,
    the limited edition so to speak.


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=P_G_J...layer_embedded

    It is possible that he simply do not have the full knowledge, but then
    why should I, or anyone, trust him to be a teacher or leader in
    any matter concerning the mind, the full reality, or the way ?

    When visiting the wayseer page the first thing demanded is a
    short profiling, and submitting emailadress.
    (see the scientology-link str8thinker)
    Quote Discover if you are a Wayseer
    Spend just 30 seconds
    to answer these 10
    questions and find out.
    1 I like getting into situations where I can't predict how things will turn out.
    True False
    2 I like to act on impulse.
    True False
    3 It is important to me to get plenty of rest and quiet time.
    True False
    4 I would choose suffering over boredom.
    True False
    5 I like to follow established ways of doing things.
    True False
    6 I like new and exciting experiences even if they are frightening at first.
    True False
    7 When I'm interested in a project, I need less sleep.
    True False
    8 I am a creative problem solver.
    True False
    9 I like to be "wild" and uninhibited.
    True False
    10 I have flashes of insight I can't explain.
    True False


    Your First Name:

    Your Email (required):
    The DaVinci-method page has a similar profile.
    Including the true/false dual answer-option, that is allways false.
    Any wayseer knows that.

    My advise is simple.
    - Enjoy the inspiration of the Wayseer-video.
    ( or better, make your own ! )
    Take it easy, and do not join LoPortos programming.

    Here a comment from a bright young man on Utube


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=YdkHT...eature=related

    It is interesting, and for me an even better kick then of the wayseervideo,
    to see intelligent debate and expression on this and any issue, on the net.

    See you all on the way, or by the well.
    nm
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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    This young man put it quite simple and yet in a very beautiful way and he is absolutely right tho!

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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Thanks Noxon Medem for your comments and those links.

    After watching them, I agree, Brendyn (BrendynTV on YouTube) is very clear in his own mind about what is important and how LoPorto's offering falls short of it. Furthermore, I had no idea the Media For Your Mind, Inc. octopus (LoPorto's commercial organization) has so many arms on the Internet. Brendyn's YouTube comments make this clear:

    Quote Original video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA
    Garrett's official site: http://loporto.com/
    Wayseer Manifesto Sales Page: http://wayseermanifesto.com
    Davinci Method Sales Page: http://www.davincimethod.com/
    Davinci Nation: http://www.davincination.org/
    The Concord Society: http://www.concordsociety.org/

    Other Loporto sales projects:
    http://miracleimpulse.com/
    http://wereinthistogether.com/
    http://neanderthalgene.com/
    http://www.instantinsomniacure.com/

    Just search for Media For Your Mind, Inc.
    One smart Neanderthal!

    Why "The Concord Society"? Probably because Media For Your Mind, Inc. have their office in Concord, MA.

    Here is a link to the second (final) part of Brendyn's evaluation:
    THE WAYSEER MANIFESTO: The Truth - Part 2

    By now, as might be expected, more have launched themselves into the YouTube arena to air their views on the Wayseers, among them LLockandloadd:


    Quote Uploaded by LLockandloadd on Mar 22, 2011

    My first ever video,sharing some insights on the Wayseers organization: (response to https://youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA)

    Basically in bullet points:

    They tell you that you are special, unlike 90% of of the world that is programmed to opress you

    You are a free spirit immune to this social programming, and the establishment is scared of you

    And are so special because at some subconscious level you are in tune with the way!! And in their words The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space also known as Will of God, and the life-force.

    HERE IS THE KICKER

    Because you are so special you need to sign up to Garret John LopPorto's site pay him 15$ a month, buy his book and promote his organization. And as a reward you get to meet many other hoodwinked muppets that did the same thing.

    There are only 10,000 more meaningful ways to rebel against the system, if you wanna know ask me


    Quote L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., interviewed by Penthouse magazine in June 1983, talking about his father and the Church of Scientology:

    Penthouse: There was no church when he wrote the book?

    Hubbard: Oh, no, no. You see, his goal was basically to write the book, take the money and run. But in 1950, this was the first major book of do-it-yourself psychotherapy, and it became a runaway best-seller. He kept getting, literally, mail trucks full of mail. And so he and some other people, including J. W. Campbell, the editor of Astounding Science Fiction , started the Dianetics Research Foundation in Elizabeth, New Jersey. And the post office kept backing up and just dumping mail sacks into the building. The foundation had a staff that just ran through the envelopes and threw away anything that didn't have any money in it.

    http://www.rickross.com/reference/sc.../scien240.html
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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    This is a very inspiring video! It made me feel good when watching it.
    Then when I read some very instructive comments about what's behind all of this, I wonder...

    Is it the intention behind the information that's the most important?

    Some self-help books have changed my life in a really positive way.

    Then when I looked up the authors on the web, just to find out that it was all part of some huge money-making scheme , it turned me off and made me feel mad that they were using people's emotional problems to make millions.
    BUT even though maybe some books were written by buisness driven idiots, or by some new age guy manipulated by the PTB,

    my life HAD CHANGED!!

    It's what you make of the information that's most important!!!

    It's what you DO that changes who you are and the world around you!

    so as I read the comments I think yes, there is something probably very suspect behind this, but if it made someone smile, and feel good, well it's maybe not that bad!!!!
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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    When we think of propaganda, we usually associate it with political messages. The thoroughly negative meaning of the term comes to us via the Nazis, whose slogans poisoned a whole nation. But it didn’t end with fall of overtly overt fascist regimes post-WWII, of course. Political propaganda appeals to the emotions by attempting to implant suggestions which bypass the intellect. People eventually get wise to it, so the propaganda just becomes slicker.
    Normally, spiritual propaganda and lies are going to fool only those who truly need fooling so that they learn an important lesson…at some point. That is, it satisfies a superficial emotional craving in those left so disappointed with politics. They’re hovering on the threshold of beginning to understand the deeper reality but a lifetime of painful experiences within a system governed by pathology have left them unprepared for the soul-sweet traps sprung for them by the very system from which they wish to free themselves. Nothing can help them except a direct experience with self-destructive behavior.
    But sometimes a piece of spiritual propaganda is so slick and clever, using the discoveries of the billion-dollar research engines of the ad industry and psychological warfare bureaus to produce something which is capable of sucking in even regular people.



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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Thanks for this post.

    I had a feeling that this "manifesto" was some kind of hoax. It was posted on Avalon not too long ago and I admittedly was suckered (along with others) into thinking that it was a legitimate movement.

    No more.

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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    HJ: did you read all that article?

    He has some points but I think he is coming from a place deep within the old school of thinking.

    I am not a psychopath, but I recognise a well crafted call to the wanderers among us when I see one. Now that may not have been the intent of this video, but most of the wanderers I met are not psychopaths - just people who are uncomfortable living in this time on Earth.
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    To be honest i don't see the big deal.
    Surely that the Wayshowers video is somehow psychopathic is just one persons view.
    It may be well crafted, glossy propaganda but i'm not selling my house and giving them all my money, i'm not shouting their slogans in the street.
    I think the overall message is a positive one, take from it what resonates with you.
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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Quote Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)
    To be honest i don't see the big deal.
    Surely that the Wayshowers video is somehow psychopathic is just one persons view.
    It may be well crafted, glossy propaganda but i'm not selling my house and giving them all my money, i'm not shouting their slogans in the street.
    I think the overall message is a positive one, take from it what resonates with you.
    That's what I was thinking.

    Keep the positive points, discard the rest.

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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Hi All I encourage you all to familiarize yourself with James Martinez , he is a financial expert and journalist especially for you in North america....
    This show was broadcast 7th july 2011 he discloses important infomation about part of the missing Trillions of dollars, Credit card debt , and he reads a statement from Amb. Leo Wanta .....He is probably one of the most upto date persons on financial 'scullduggary' on the web...He was an assiociate of Christopher
    Storey who was taken out for exposing to much....James explains thats why he has kept under the mainstream radar....He mentions at the start he has been in contact with Alex Jones, who wanted to interview him because he is very well up on the money trail subject and with the NWO. But he will be going on when he is ready..

    http://www.achieveradio.com/archplay...-Cash_Flow.mp3

    As I said before Bill & Kerry interviewed James in nov 2009 on mp3 if you have not heard it ...Its worth a listen....
    James was a close friend of Walter Bowart author of 'operation Mind control' and is fully aware
    of what the 'Elites'are upto.. Imho he is in the same league as David Icke/alex Jones/Bill & Kerry and in some areas infront......
    http://projectcamelot.org/mediafiles...ember_2009.mp3

    You may have heard him on the clips I have been putting up with Ion, Althouth it is James show 'Cash Flow' , he takes a back seat on purpose as he want ions knowledge to be probed by Bob Nevritt primary... Don't ignore this, it is very important , if you can't be bothered now keep it for later , he has got 'Excelent' inside sources ........Cheers Steve

    This is the vid james plays in his show ,That was sent in ...He has nothing to do with it...


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    So you never fit in very well. You felt like a round peg in a square hole, eh? Here's why!

    Get to know yourself better and why your are wired so differently than most people. You also need to appreciate all that you are and are becoming. Why? Because you are worth it! And there is no one like you in the whole world, that's why! Much love!

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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Bunch of crap that has already been posted on here.

    Yay, more new age mumbo-jumbo to distract Avalonians!

    [Mod-edit: yes, already posted here. I just merged it into the original Wayseer Manifesto thread. - Paul.]
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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    ATTENTION

    Everything the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you


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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Its a nice video, but one that poses some serious "discretion" checks. I think its been covered on the forum already.
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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    This has been posted quite a few times already.

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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    A search for the youtube video code OPR3GlpQQJA shows 18 earlier posts of this video, beginning back on March 18, 2011.



    (No, I don't intend to merge the 19 threads ... such it is.)
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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Whoops and cuckoo my fault should have checked doh

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    Default Re: Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

    Quote Posted by The One (here)
    ATTENTION: Everything the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you[...]
    No ****.

    I remember seeing this video a while back The One. Turned out to be yet another money making cult of glory if I recall correctly.

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