Paul McCartney really is Dead

[TomKat]

Posted by greybeard (here)
If you look for differences in the face you will see them.
If you look for similarities you will find them---all light and shade.
The lips the dimple on the chin the nose--at the very least similar.

Chris

Yes, seek and you shall find. I wasted many hours on this years ago and concluded that the people promoting it were disingenuous. They'd show a picture of young Paul with his mouth and jaw closed, then show a picture old "Faul" with his jaw open and mouth closed, and say Faul's face was longer.

[DaveToo]

Paul must be dead because Jim Fetzer says so.
And Jim Fetzer never makes mistakes!

[Kryztian]

[DaveToo]

Sorry Kryztian I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of the photos.
They ALL look exactly like Paul to me.

Even the side-to-side photos which were trying desperately to make him look different.

[DaveToo]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
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Let's take the last Paul/Faul photos just for fun.


The bridge of nose between eyes: a perfect match
Tip of nose: a perfect match
Curve of left nostril: a perfect match
Mustache hair stub locations: a perfect match
Upper lip curvature: a perfect match
Lower lip shape/curvature: a perfect match

Here is my absolute favorite though!
Two pock marks in skin to the left of nose: a perfect match!!! (Location, size, shape, depth)

[TomKat]

Posted by DaveToo (here)

Posted by Kryztian (here)
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Let's take the last Paul/Faul photos just for fun.


The bridge of nose between eyes: a perfect match
Tip of nose: a perfect match
Curve of left nostril: a perfect match
Mustache hair stub locations: a perfect match
Upper lip curvature: a perfect match
Lower lip shape/curvature: a perfect match

Here is my absolute favorite though!
Two pock marks in skin to the left of nose: a perfect match!!! (Location, size, shape, depth)

Thank you. Another part of the theory is that Faul's songs were written by a classical composer from Tavistock. As if any properly trained composer could do what Paul did.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I explained in depth in my post here why the Paul is dead is a 'junk conspiracy' like the flat earth, having quite as much evidence for it as the flat earth, i.e none AT ALL. I also demonstrated quantifiable evidence against the theory in the form of photo analysis (which it doesn't really require when simple common sense suffices) along with the explanation of how it came to be: a stunt, a practical joke for a college campus newspaper that went completely out of control.

I only go where the evidence leads, and it leads unquestionably, irrevocably to Paul is Paul and has always been Paul. I believe it is so that some people will believe literally anything if they hear it loud enough and long enough, and quite irrespective of actual evidence.

I could present the following picture. If this got shunted around long enough, with a few 'weird' anecdotes thrown in for good measure, adding the CIA and Mark Chapman and Yoko as a handler into the debate, etc, etc, it may grow legs and eventually who knows, some may start to actually believe it. I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

[Kryztian]

Posted by DaveToo (here)
Sorry Kryztian I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of the photos.
They ALL look exactly like Paul to me.

I did not post these as any kind of definitive proof, these are just images I had collected and felt were important to share. It would be more useful if these photos had dates them, since it is theorized that "Faul" (the McCartney from 1967 onwards) is alleged to have several plastic surgeries.

A few things I did find interesting in the above comparisons is the first one, where you notice Paul, pre September 1966 has brown eyes, but here seem to be blue or green. There are other post 1967 images that show that too.

Also, note how Paul, pre Sept '66 has his right eye brow arched high in several pictures but not afterwards.

Again, not definitive proof.

What can not be altered however is the shape of the head and the pallate, and some of the dental features. This is why I think the work of Gabriella Carlesi is a convincing piece of the puzzle.

[Kryztian]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
I explained in depth in my post here why the Paul is dead is a 'junk conspiracy' like the flat earth,

Yes, there is a lot of junk conspiracy surrounding Paul and a lot of hysteria (in this case known as "Beatlemania") as well. However, junk conspiracy doesn't necessarily mean there isn't any good evidence as well. In fact, if someone is pulling off a conspiracy, junk conspiracy is a welcome distraction which can help to conceal the real truth. There is plenty of junk conspiracy in the JFK assassination and the 9/11 coverup that get in the way of demonstrating the real truth. Undoubtedly, no conspiracy has more junk obscuring the truth than PID.

the explanation of how it came to be: a stunt, a practical joke for a college campus newspaper that went completely out of control.

The story did explode in college newspapers in the Fall of 1969, and then into the mainstream media in early November, but the rumor was already three years old then. The first college paper to publish it got the story from and underground music magazine from California (allegedly, there is no print copy known). Since rumors are a verbal phenomena and not put into print, there are few quotable texts to prove it. One is from Jay Marks, who wrote a book on 60's rock groups with Linda Eastman, who notice Paul at a party on Christmas Day 1966 and noticed he was avoided his long time girlfriend. He said he was told “Don’t you know? That’s not the boy she fell in love with. That’s his replacement. It’s all very hush hush you know.” Also, there is a small article in Beatles Monthly, February 1967, dismissing the "false rumors" that were rampant.

I only go where the evidence leads,

I agree 100% with that statement. I was never a Beatles fan and I have no need or desire to think that he was killed and replaced. Before I ever examined the "Paul Is Dead" conspiracy, I was convinced it was completely the product of mass hysteria and probably THE MOST LUDICROUS conspiracy theory out there. But new evidence led me else where. I am basing most of my ideas in the hard evidence found in Tina Foster's book "Plastic Macca" a small part of which summarizes the info in "Chiedi chi era quel 'Beatle'".

[Kryztian]

Posted by TomKat (here)
Another part of the theory is that Faul's songs were written by a classical composer from Tavistock. As if any properly trained composer could do what Paul did.

Theodor Adorno. He was more of a culture critic than composer. I've never heard any of his compositions, but I assume some of them are atonal, in the tradition of Arnold Schoenberg. The theory stems entirely from one person, John Coleman, who claims to be an ex MI-6 agent, who wrote the book on "The Committee of 300."

Article:
Theodor Adorno wrote all the Beatles’ songs as a Cultural Marxist assault on America. Possibly.

One thing I know about Adorno is that he hated the Beatles. He hated the idea that music could be used to drive people into any type of frenzy, especially large numbers of people, as was the case with Beatlemania.

[Journeyman]

Listen.

Do you want to know a secret?

Do you promise not to tell, the world?

I haven't read the entire thread...

However, on the offchance that no-one has posted Miles Mathis take on Paul yet I'll offer the following links:

Some interesting work around the idea of Paul's brother not being who were were told he was....

As you will see, the Faul theorists were right about a lot of things. But I would say they missed the
most important facts. They missed the twins, to start with. And they missed that neither of them died.
Neither replaced the other. They have both been around all along, and still are.

Then there's the question of whether we were ever really talking about 4 working class boys from Liverpool....

Finally, to finish off on a positive note, not only is Paul not dead, neither is John.

[TomKat]

Posted by Journeyman (here)
Listen.

Do you want to know a secret?
Do you promise not to tell?

That's George, not Paul. But of course, George is alive too, eh? :-)

[DaveToo]

Posted by Journeyman (here)

As you will see, the Faul theorists were right about a lot of things. But I would say they missed the
most important facts. They missed the twins, to start with. And they missed that neither of them died.
Neither replaced the other. They have both been around all along, and still are.

Then there's the question of whether we were ever really talking about 4 working class boys from Liverpool....

Finally, to finish off on a positive note, not only is Paul not dead, neither is John.

Oh no!
Please don't go there.

I actually spent far more of my precious time looking through that .pdf you posted than I should have.

That guy Staycer is not even remotely close to a Lennon knock off!

But thanks for letting me know there is this Lennon conspiracy. I wouldn't have known otherwise.

[Journeyman]

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Journeyman (here)
Listen.

Do you want to know a secret?
Do you promise not to tell?

That's George, not Paul. But of course, George is alive too, eh? :-)

Wouldn't that be Something...

No, sadly, not heard that one. David Bowie yes, but not GH. Here's George roaming around Crackerbox Palace instead:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Ac34Khe-fc

Posted by DaveToo (here)
Oh no!
Please don't go there.

I actually spent far more of my precious time looking through that .pdf you posted than I should have.

That guy Staycer is not even remotely close to a Lennon knock off!

But thanks for letting me know there is this Lennon conspiracy. I wouldn't have known otherwise.

I've spent plenty of time on Miles's site He does his research and gets me thinking, regardless of whether I agree with his conclusions.

[TomKat]

Posted by Journeyman (here)
Here's George roaming around Crackerbox Palace instead:

Yes, we have George admitting that "I was so young when I was born." That's code for ... whatever you want it to be! :-)

[DaveToo]

Posted by Journeyman (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Journeyman (here)
Listen.

Do you want to know a secret?
Do you promise not to tell?

That's George, not Paul. But of course, George is alive too, eh? :-)

Wouldn't that be Something...

No, sadly, not heard that one. David Bowie yes, but not GH. Here's George roaming around Crackerbox Palace instead:

Here's a little Somefing I recorded on guitar for your listening pleasure.

https://soundcloud.com/tastyfingers-trio/somefing

[Journeyman]

Posted by DaveToo (here)

Posted by Journeyman (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Journeyman (here)
Listen.

Do you want to know a secret?
Do you promise not to tell?

That's George, not Paul. But of course, George is alive too, eh? :-)

Wouldn't that be Something...

No, sadly, not heard that one. David Bowie yes, but not GH. Here's George roaming around Crackerbox Palace instead:

Here's a little Somefing I recorded on guitar for your listening pleasure.

https://soundcloud.com/tastyfingers-trio/somefing

That is truly lovely! Beautifully arranged and played. Good job you used some reverb or I'd be wondering if George faked his death too


May I ask what guitar you used?

[Kryztian]

Over thirty pages of Tina Foster's "Plastic Macca" is devoted too all the things that the person we know as "Paul McCartney" since 1967 has gotten wrong about the life of Paul McCartney that we knew up to 1966. There are many, many contradictory statement made about his background, his music activities, and where he got the inspiration for his songs.

Below is just one example - all the things the post 1966 Paul McCartney got wrong about the song "Yesterday" including a completely different story about how he went about composing the song.

[DaveToo]

Posted by Journeyman (here)

Posted by DaveToo (here)

Posted by Journeyman (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Journeyman (here)
Listen.

Do you want to know a secret?
Do you promise not to tell?

That's George, not Paul. But of course, George is alive too, eh? :-)

Wouldn't that be Something...

No, sadly, not heard that one. David Bowie yes, but not GH. Here's George roaming around Crackerbox Palace instead:

Here's a little Somefing I recorded on guitar for your listening pleasure.

https://soundcloud.com/tastyfingers-trio/somefing

That is truly lovely! Beautifully arranged and played. Good job you used some reverb or I'd be wondering if George faked his death too


May I ask what guitar you used?

Thanks Journeyman I'm glad you liked it.
For this tune I used my Gibson SG (faded special).

[TomKat]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
Below is just one example - all the things the post 1966 Paul McCartney got wrong about the song "Yesterday" including a completely different story about how he went about composing the song.

In the account just posted, there are no contradictions in the writing of Yesterday. In one account he mentions dreaming the melody. In the other he mentions writing the words. I'm old enough to know that at no time did Paul EVER claim he dreamt the words and the melody. So this Tina Foster person certainly has credibility issues, and I dismiss everything she says.