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    I have no doubt that we all have the ability to communicate with other parts of ourselves but channeling is something different, it requires that the personality of the channeler be displaced and that another entity take over the body, a bit like temporary possesion of he human body

    Why an evolved being will need to do that to communicate with us unevolved humans escapes me, unless of course it is not evolved. It is also possible that it may be a demonic entity, as has been witnesed over millenia or a satellite that transmits directly to a person's mind as we know it happens by the testimonies that we have already read in PC and PA

    Additionally to that, there is the level of personal evolution of the channel that may not be very evolved and tinged with his/her own fears and desires of having an "hero" to rescue them from their earthly difficulties, who knows what happens in someone else's mind

    Taking over someone elses body is not something that is necessary in my oppinion and personal experience

    Below an article that talks about the council of nine and Andrija Puharich and how the New Age movement may have been infiltrated by MKultra and the CIA

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    The Council of Nine
    from http://www.forteantimes.com/artic/126/nine.html, 1999
    (Posted here by Wes Penre, June 19, 2005)


    Uri GellerOne New Age channeling cult, above all the rest, has had a huge - very disturbing influence on hundreds of thousands of devotees worldwide. Known as 'The Nine', its disciples include cutting edge scientists, multi-millionaire industrialists and leading politicians. This exclusive extract based on The Startgate Conspiracy by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince looks at the sinister origins of The Nine.

    I am the beginning. I am the end. I am the emissary. But the original time I was on the Planet Earth was 34,000 of your years ago. I am the balance. And when I say "I" - I mean because I am an emissary for The Nine. It is not I , but it is the group. We are nine principles of the Universe, yet together we are one.

    The declaration above is typical of the channeled pronouncements of the Council of Nine - or just 'The Nine'. They contain all the usual New Age ingredients of grandiose statements, shaky grammar and unprovable predictions. But unlike all the other channeling cults, that of The Nine has serious clout. Perhaps the reason for this is that they claim to be the Ennead, or the nine major gods of ancient Egypt (see panel). Or could there be another reason, one that owes more to The X-Files than the Pyramid Texts? Although The Nine may appear to be quintessentially a modern phenomenon, our research uncovered its truly astonishing pedigree. In fact, the story begins nearly 50 years ago, in a private research laboratory in Glen Cove, Maine, called the Round Table Foundation, run by a medical doctor Andrija Puharichnamed Andrija Puharich (also known as Henry K Puharich).Set up in 1948 to research the paranormal, among the noted psychics studied at the Foundation were the famous Irish medium Eileen Garrett and the Dutch clairvoyant Peter Hurkos (Pieter van de Hirk).Prominent members included the influential philosopher and inventor Arthur M Young and the socialite Alice Bouverie (née Astor).

    In December 1952, Puharich brought into his laboratory an Indian mystic named Dr D G Vinod, who began to channel The Nine or 'the Nine Principles'. In the months before Vinod returned to India, a group met regularly to hear The Nine's channelled wisdom. Never known for their modesty, The Nine proclaimed themselves to be God, stating "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God."

    Three years later, there appeared to be independent confirmation of their existence. In Mexico, Puharich and Young met Charles and Lillian Laughead, former Christian missionaries who were by then prominent in the burgeoning UFO contactee movement. (For a description of their involvement in the Dorothy Martin circle, see Jerome Clark's 'When Prophecy Failed' in FT117.) Back in the States a few weeks later, Puharich received a letter from the Laugheads containing messages received by their group's channeller. This message also claimed to come from the Nine Principles, even - amazingly - including references to the earlier communications transmitted through Dr Vinod. Could The Nine possibly be for real?

    Perhaps the answer is embedded in the career of Puharich himself. After disbanding the Round Table Foundation in 1958, he worked for 10 years as an inventor of medical devices and achieved international recognition as a parapsychologist, most famously studying the Brazilian psychic surgeon, Arigo (José Pedro de Freitas). But all that was to pale into insignificance because, in 1971, Puharich discovered Uri Geller.

    At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotised Geller in an attempt to find out where his Uri Gellerabilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel 'Spectra' - an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child.

    Through Geller, The Nine alerted Puharich to his life's mission, which was to use Geller's talents to alert the world to an imminent mass landing of spaceships that would bring representatives of The Nine. However, Geller - by now an international psychic superstar - bowed out in 1973 and has resolutely turned his back on The Nine ever since. Puharich had to find other channels. He joined up with aristocratic former racing driver Sir John Whitmore and Florida-based psychic and healer Phyllis Schlemmer. They found a new channeller - a Daytona cook known to history only by the pseudonym 'Bobby Horne' - who lived to regret his dealings with The Nine. Driven to the brink of suicide by their constant demands, he too dropped out of the scene - his despair being dismissed by Whitmore as "signs of instability". After this, Phyllis Schlemmer was appointed the authorised spokesperson for the entity - known simply as 'Tom' - who represented The Nine.

    Puharich, Whitmore and Schlemmer then set up Lab Nine at Puharich's estate in Ossining, New York. The Nine's disciples included multi-millionaire businessmen (many hiding behind pseudonyms and including members of Canada's richest family, the Bronfmans), European nobility, scientists from the Stanford Research Institute and at least one prominent political figure who was a personal friend of President Gerald Ford.

    We also know that Lyall Watson (then the darling of the alternative scene because of his seminal 1973 book Supernature) was involved, as was the influential counter-culture guru Ira Einhorn - and Gene Roddenberry, creator of Star Trek.

    The key to predicting eclipses is noticing that they occur in cycles, or at more or less regular intervals. Gene RoddenberryThe Sun goes round the sky once a year; the Moon once a month. This means that, every month, the Moon 'overtakes' the sun. This happens at the New Moon, and this is when solar eclipses occur. But, of course, we don't get an eclipse every New Moon. This is because the Moon has an elliptical orbit: sometimes it passes above the Sun when it overtakes it, sometimes below. But the Moon's elliptical orbit has its own cycle: it returns to the same place it started from every 18 years or so. Thus - if seen from the same place on Earth - an eclipse will be followed by another one just over 18 years later.

    Roddenberry was part of that circle in 1974 and 1975, and even produced the screenplay for a movie about The Nine. How much he was influenced by them is unknown, although it is said that some of their concepts found their way into the early Star Trek movies, and The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine (what a giveaway!) series.

    (There is a character named 'Vinod' in one Deep Space Nine episode.) Another key player in Lab Nine was Dr James J Hurtak, who was appointed Puharich's second-in-command by The Nine. In fact, Hurtak had been independently channelling The Nine since 1973. Puharich and Whitmore commissioned British writer Stuart Holroyd to write an account of their adventures, which appeared in 1977 as Prelude to the Landing on Planet Earth (retitled Briefings for the Landing on Planet Earth in paperback)

    In this extraordinary book the true identity of the Nine - and of Tom - was finally revealed. Far from being the chummy character that his rather avuncular name suggests, Tom is actually Atum, the creator-god of the ancient Egyptian religion of Heliopolis, and Uncle Tom with his eight mates are none other than the Great Ennead of Heliopolis,

    But even with such impressive contacts, all was not well with Puharich. Lab Nine broke up in 1978 after a series of mysterious events that culminated in an arson attack on the Ossining estate, and he fled to Mexico, claiming that he was being persecuted by the CIA. He returned to the USA two years later, and appears to have played no further part in The Nine story. He died in 1995 after falling down the stairs in his South Carolina home. However, The Nine continued. Not only did Schlemmer and Whitmore continue their mission, but Dr Hurtak has also moved on. He has become a major player in the unfolding millennial drama currently being played out at Giza, but perhaps more importantly he has established himself as a New Age guru par excellence, travelling the world giving workshops on his book of channelled revelations from The Nine, The Keys of Enoch. Written and laid out in classic Biblical style, its darkly apocalyptic vision has huge numbers of influential devotees.This we find very worrying.

    Another Nine channel - an Englishwoman named Jenny O'Connor - was introduced to the avant garde Esalen Institute in San Francisco by Sir John Whitmore. She and The Nine became so influential there that they held seminars and - unbelievably - were actually listed on the Institute's staff, even successfully ordering the sacking of its chief finance officer and the reorganisation of its entire management structure..

    This should concern us, because many influential people attended The Nine's Esalen seminars, including Russians who were part of the Institute's Soviet Exchange programme. Some of these later rose to prominence in the Gorbachev regime and were instrumental in the downfall of Communism. (The Esalen Institute now runs the US branch of the Gorbachev Foundation.)

    The Nine are very much still with us. One of their recent channels, who is also in contact with Tom, is the American writer David M Myers. He is co-author with Britain's David S Percy of that extraordinary tome Two-Thirds, a history of the galaxy and the human race according to Myer's otherwordly contacts (who clearly have no sense of the absurd). Percy - best known as a champion of the 'Face on Mars' and the 'hoaxing' of the Apollo moon landings - was at one time part of the Schlemmer circle. Among the other major proponents of the 'monuments' of Mars and their alleged connection with ancient Egypt is none other than Dr James Hurtak - The Nine's great prophet - who has promoted this idea since as long ago as 1973. Richard C Hoagland - familiar to FT readers as another unrepentant 'Mars Face' enthusiast - is also clearly under The Nine's spell. David Myers and David Percy were, respectively, American and European Director of Operations for Hoagland's Mars Mission. In fact, his interpretation of the 'monuments' of Mars comes directly from The Nine. Flake though he may appear (increasingly in these hallowed pages), but his influence over huge swathes of the hungrier mystery seekers is undeniable. This is the man who addresses rapt audiences at the United Nations.

    But it is in the New Age channelling circuit that The Nine have truly come into their own. In any other circles their true agenda would no doubt have been rumbled long ago, but this is the New Age. Anything The Nine say must be sweetness and light, right? But an objective reading of their divine pronouncements reveal the first stirrings of something very nasty in Paradise.

    Their words appeared in 1992 as the book The Only Planet of Choice, credited to 'transceiver' Schlemmer and edited by Mary Bennett (a one-time member of the Schlemmer circle who also edited Myers and Percy's Two-Thirds). This has had an unprecedented influence over the New Age. According to Palden Jenkins (editor of an earlier edition of Only Planet) more and more New Age channelling groups are 'realising' that the real source of their wisdom is The Nine. In fact, we have discerned what amounts to a campaign by The Nine - or their adherents - to 'take over' the New Age. It would be a mistake to underestimate the economic or even political potential of this vast subculture - rich pickings indeed.

    But The Nine's influence does not extend merely to New Age channelling circles. Andrija Puharich, James Hurtak and Richard Hoagland have all lectured at the United Nations in New York. And individuals connected with The Nine are also known to have influence with Vice-President Al Gore. Of course, if The Nine really are the ancient gods of Egypt, then surely there could be fewer more significant events than their return. One may be justified in thinking that the more leading politicians who fall under their influence the better; but are they really the ancient Ennead of Egypt? Can it be that they have actually returned to sort us all out, scattering love and enlightenment from their high moral ground?

    Tom, in The Only Planet of Choice, chooses his words carefully as he explains that all the races of the Earth were seeded from space-gods - except one, the "indigenous race", the blacks. He is very careful to urge us not to make an issue out of this. After all, it's not the black race's fault that they have no divine spark like the rest of us.

    Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its relationship to the career of Andrija Uri GellerPuharich. Recent research has revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side. As an Army doctor in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA's notorious MKULTRA mind control project (see panel). He - together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb - experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes. even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject's brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel. Puharich's use of hypnosis is particularly interesting in The Nine circle. In the case of Uri Geller and Bobby Horne, he first hypnotised them and then suggested that they were in touch with The Nine - and lo, they were! Ira Einhorn - a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s - confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications.

    The evidence we have gathered strongly suggests that Tom and his fellow gods originated, not in the stars, but behind closed doors as part of a CIA mind control experiment. And what happened to that experiment? Now with hundreds of thousands of devotees, some in very high places, can The Nine be deemed a success? Of course, that depends very much on what the CIA had in mind. With their subtle racist propaganda, perhaps the flaky New Age Nine should worry the hell out of us.
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    http://www.illuminati-news.com/council-of-nine.htm

    It is food for thought and further researching


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    You may be on to something stardust - this wouldn't surprise me in the least.
    I understand your idea of being able to communicate with higher aspects of ourselves, but that this does not involve "channeling". Our higher self speaks through our consciousness and we are that - consciousness - we do not have to surrender to an outside entity or allow an outside voice or thoughts to speak "through" us as a channel for it. We are our higher selves and in moments of inspiration and clarity we can hear and speak words of wisdom from higher realms of being - and it is really us that is doing the speaking. Personally, I would never surrender to another outside/external force to use/speak through me as a channel - this is giving your power away and surrendering your true identity to another.
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    You may be on to something stardust - this wouldn't surprise me in the least.
    I understand your idea of being able to communicate with higher aspects of ourselves, but that this does not involve "channeling". Our higher self speaks through our consciousness and we are that - consciousness - we do not have to surrender to an outside entity or allow an outside voice or thoughts to speak "through" us as a channel for it. We are our higher selves and in moments of inspiration and clarity we can hear and speak words of wisdom from higher realms of being - and it is really us that is doing the speaking. Personally, I would never surrender to another outside/external force to use/speak through me as a channel - this is giving your power away and surrendering your true identity to another.
    Hi Horizons

    The problem of surrendering one's body to another entity is quite damaging to the divine blueprint as you can imagine, we are all unique, not two of us are alike and trying to force a diferent frequency/resonance in a body is like trying to fit a square into a round hole, it is bound to do some damage

    Additionally, the need to seek an authority outside ourselves comes from school brainwashing where we are told that we do not know anything but actually if we get quiet we normally can know much more than we give ourselves credit for

    I think the "New Age" religion, is tptb baby intendend to replace the old ones that have run out of favour now. Nothing new, it is a luciferian/satanic religion in which we are obligued to surrender our power to an outside "saviour"

    The more I research about it the more evidence I find that the New Age movement has been infiltrated and can help us little with our awakening


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    I fully agree with you. Since I came out of heavy religious movements I too have noticed the same traps, loops, controls with all the same bells and whistles to make it grand. Been there - done that - same old thing with a new name.
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    I found this video from Red Ice Creations about the Project Stargate Conspiracy

    This is the link to the playlist

    https://youtube.com/user/MemeScyt.../0/BD25S5lWCzo

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    What can I say, there is evidence of use of microwaves to make people believe they are seeing or hearing things that are not real



    It was called project Monarch, it also includes sound frequencies which are being used broadly like 440 (corrected from 444) very popular these days among other similar sound frequencies
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    Ritual Magic, Mind Control and the UFO Phenomenon by Adam Gorightly


    "It was not long after my own encounter with strange aerial phenomenon that I began to see a link between UFOs to such seemingly disparate topics as psychedelics, psychotronics, and ritual magick..."


    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFO...tual_Magic.htm




    are Alien Abductions a cover for MK-ULTRA mind control

    Quote "According to Walter Bowart — in the revised edition of Operation Mind Control — one alleged mind control victim related an incident along these lines, purportedly occurring in the late 70’s. In memories retrieved by way of hypnotic regression, it was revealed that the victim had been the recipient of a mock alien abduction, the intention of which was to create a screen memory that would conceal the actual mind control programs enacted on the victim. The subject in this instance claimed to have seen a young child dressed in a small alien costume, similar in appearance to the aliens in Speilberg's ET"

    Quote "As chronicled in Walter Bowart’s Operation Mind Control, in the late 70’s Congressman Charlie Rose (D-N.C) met with a Canadian inventor who had developed a helmet that simulated alternate states of consciousness and realities, much like the VR eyegear-unit postulated in the movie Brainstorm. One such virtual reality scenario played out by those who tried on this helmet was a mock alien abduction. Congressman Rose took part in these experiments, which consisted of aforementioned alien abduction programme. Much to Rose’s amazement, the simulated scenario seemed incredibly realistic. This device sounds quite similar to Dr. Michael Persinger's much-touted "Magic Helmet", which has been receiving a fair amount of press in recent years. Equipped with magnets that beam a low-level magnetic field at the temporal lobe, the “Helmet” effects areas of brain associated with time distortions, and other altered states of consciousness. Although Bowart did not specifically name the inventor of the helmet in Operation Mind Control, chances are it was Persinger to whom he was referring. Persinger's name has also been bandied about by mind control researcher, Martin Cannon — in his treatise The Controllers — as a behind the scenes player in intelligence operations related to MK-ULTRA."

    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFO...tual_Magic.htm


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    as Alex Collier says when asked if those aliens really exist

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    Thank you RedeZra, great link!

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    There is a wonderful series of articles by Bronte Baxter on what the New Age doctrine is really about. If at all it can be said that the New Age movement has been "infiltrated", then it's from the moment of its birth. As for channeling, 10-15 years ago it might be trusted yet, but today you're never sure if the "entity" you're listening to is not a Blue Beam Project operator...
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    Quote Posted by thedot (here)
    There is a wonderful series of articles by Bronte Baxter on what the New Age doctrine is really about. If at all it can be said that the New Age movement has been "infiltrated", then it's from the moment of its birth. As for channeling, 10-15 years ago it might be trusted yet, but today you're never sure if the "entity" you're listening to is not a Blue Beam Project operator...
    Thank you for the link I think I will have a busy Sunday!

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    TheDot, thank you for that link. I've spent endless hours reading her work and I find her cutting edge on many topics and I miss her, she's not posted anything new in many months....... I had tried before to locate this particular article because it voices so well my take on the New Age poll-parotting ad nauseum surface talk about the ills of the ego and the oneness club without undermining its rich meaning.
    http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/bl...s-cares-about/

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    Good thread, makes a lot of sense. I recall about ten years ago David Icke said the New Age movement would be the last "religious" deception. As per usual most people laughed, now here we are....

    Think of everything a human being wants and needs. "They" (the elite) OWN every industry to fulfill that need. You need to drink water? They sell your own planet's rain back to you after it's been "treated". You need food? Unless you grow your own you will be eating "their" food from the supermarket of their worldwide poison chainstores. Want sex? Every perversion imaginable at the touch of a button. Want music? You get spoonfed artists who've sold their soul for success in a faustian pact. Some of the masonic ritual that goes on in pop videos is scary as hell! Want religion? They've covered the world with their temples and churches and regurgitated the same old tired story over and over again for thousands of years. New age movement is merely the latest.

    BUT they can forcefeed you as much as they like. NO-ONE can take away your spirituality and you don't need an institution to teach you that.

    Peace all

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    I found this video from Red Ice Creations about the Project Stargate Conspiracy

    This is the link to the playlist

    https://youtube.com/user/MemeScyt.../0/BD25S5lWCzo
    This was a very interesting interview - there is a lot of slight of hand going on to be sure.
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    Quote Posted by Moxie (here)
    TheDot, thank you for that link. I've spent endless hours reading her work and I find her cutting edge on many topics and I miss her, she's not posted anything new in many months....... I had tried before to locate this particular article because it voices so well my take on the New Age poll-parotting ad nauseum surface talk about the ills of the ego and the oneness club without undermining its rich meaning.
    http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/bl...s-cares-about/
    Good article Moxie - Thanks.
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    Thedot, thank you very much for the articles by Bronte Baxter, I agree with what she says about the deception of the gurus and the "eating" of human life force by the many gods as well as the pleasure seeking society that have changed their vertical aligment for short lived thrills

    It is a must read for anyone that wants to know what happened to the hippy movement

    The bottom line is, there is only one way and that is vertical! Taking responsibility for what we do with our energy is the first step because if we do not master our own energies or life force some one else will use those energies one way or another. Self mastery and self knowledge is the only way to avoid deception. We can read and see many things but we need to question everything and ask ourselves, is this.....asking me to give my power, energy, life force away?


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    Quote Posted by 777 (here)
    Good thread, makes a lot of sense. I recall about ten years ago David Icke said the New Age movement would be the last "religious" deception. As per usual most people laughed, now here we are....

    Think of everything a human being wants and needs. "They" (the elite) OWN every industry to fulfill that need. You need to drink water? They sell your own planet's rain back to you after it's been "treated". You need food? Unless you grow your own you will be eating "their" food from the supermarket of their worldwide poison chainstores. Want sex? Every perversion imaginable at the touch of a button. Want music? You get spoonfed artists who've sold their soul for success in a faustian pact. Some of the masonic ritual that goes on in pop videos is scary as hell! Want religion? They've covered the world with their temples and churches and regurgitated the same old tired story over and over again for thousands of years. New age movement is merely the latest.

    BUT they can forcefeed you as much as they like. NO-ONE can take away your spirituality and you don't need an institution to teach you that.

    Peace all
    777

    You reminded me of something, our own power. Remember how many times Jesus said to his disciples : "where is your faith? "

    My point is that by this all out avalanche on us by every weapon they have ,they want to black us down to stop us from clear thought and realization of our true power given by God.
    It`s like deafening the person with ton of sound until the person can not hear itself anymore.

    But at the end miraculous deeds are but a tip of the iceberg of real capabilities of human ,sadly even if someone realizes their own powers they are seduced by them and turned to its lower capabilities such as brutal showings of power or control of weak or ruling or performing "miracles" in this physicality ...and thus missing the real point ,then very close to utter loss before God.
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    You reminded me of something, our own power. Remember how many times Jesus said to his disciples : "where is your faith? "

    My point is that by this all out avalanche on us by every weapon they have ,they want to black us down to stop us from clear thought and realization of our true power given by God.
    It`s like deafening the person with ton of sound until the person can not hear itself anymore.

    But at the end miraculous deeds are but a tip of the iceberg of real capabilities of human ,sadly even if someone realizes their own powers they are seduced by them and turned to its lower capabilities such as brutal showings of power or control of weak or ruling or performing "miracles" in this physicality ...and thus missing the real point ,then very close to utter loss before God.
    In agreement Beren

    The last resort of the ego is specialness according to "A Course in Miracles."
    By its very nature specialness is divisive.
    Taking our power -- oh yeah, oh yeah, quickly lead to "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

    When we are ready our power will be revealed to us, it cant be taken away by another or claimed by us for that matter. It is what we are.
    All the conflict in this world has been caused by taking and justifying that taking as "my right"
    Where is respect and Devotion for our Creator in all this? I wonder.
    For sure we do not have the power to self create, We owe every breath that we take to being a gift from God.

    Chris
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Beren and Chirs

    I respect that you have religious beliefs, this thread is about the infiltration of the new age movement and in the interest of those that are researching this matter I will appreciatte that we keep it on topic please



    Thank you

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    Beren and Chirs

    I respect that you have religious beliefs, this thread is about the infiltration of the new age movement and in the interest of those that are researching this matter I will appreciatte that we keep it on topic please





    Thank you
    With respect Star I dont have any religious belief not belonging to any group or have any religious or spiritual affiliation.
    I speak as you do from a vast breadth of reading and experience.
    I have read a lot regarding new age, it would appear that it has been infiltrated by those of the lower astral who deny God.
    Sorry if you felt that what I wrote was not in the spirit of the thread.

    Respectfully Chris
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    In agreement Beren

    The last resort of the ego is specialness according to "A Course in Miracles."
    By its very nature specialness is divisive.
    Taking our power -- oh yeah, oh yeah, quickly lead to "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

    When we are ready our power will be revealed to us, it cant be taken away by another or claimed by us for that matter. It is what we are.
    All the conflict in this world has been caused by taking and justifying that taking as "my right"
    Where is respect and Devotion for our Creator in all this? I wonder.
    For sure we do not have the power to self create, We owe every breath that we take to being a gift from God.

    Chris
    I emphatically agree with both of you. I was merely pointing out how even our very faith is under attack from the very same, sadly misguided people and forces. The same people who sell you your cheeseburger, sell you your God when you pay for their new church roof or their shrine engrained in pure gold.

    And I know you both know this I'm not arguing, since a certain shard of divinity and non-egotistical wisdom radiates from your words!

    When it comes to the crunch (so many silly sayings in English huh?) we find God in ourselves, not in anything exterior and to get this back on track, new age mumbo jumbo is no different from Islamic Fundamentalism, Christian opression, or Jewish racism. It's all a control tool to feed mere mortals with the very self belief they haven't yet found in themselves.....and hence in God.

    So many wise Souls on here I love it!

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