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    Default Maybe there was no "Big Bang"

    Universe: The Cosmology Quest

    Most of us are intrigued by questions to do with the origin and evolution of the universe. Where do we come from? Where are we going?

    These are fundamental questions. But no one knows the answers. In the last few years there have been many claims that we are finally getting a true answer.

    It is that the universe and all of the matter and energy out of which we are created was created in a great explosion about 15 billion years ago. This was the big bang. Most scientists will agree with this but there are a few of us, expert in the field, who understand that we still really don’t know. This is the story of the few.

    Most astronomical theory is arrived at in personal meetings between members of an influential elite. This film gives an opportunity to hear and see, first hand, the arguments which contradict the currently accepted paradigms.

    Listen and reflect as researchers discuss discoveries which do not reach the news media, and public at large. See the evidence for a completely different universe. Discover together with many prominent workers in the field, what this universe looks like, and how it works.

    It is amazing that this film got made considering the animosity towards alternative ideas in the field. It would appear that Meyers has become the Michael Moore of the science documentary!

    This feature length presentation is a unique mixture of human interest and science documentary film. As the first comprehensive documentary to deal with major new approaches in non-bing bang cosmologies, it reveals several deep-rooted theoretical and observational controversies.

    This is a fact, well hidden from university students and the general public, which is told with clarity and conviction: and potentially leading to the down-fall of the presiding Big Bang theory.

    The story is told by 16 world renown astronomers and cosmologist such as the legendary Sir Fred Hoyle, controversial cosmologists Geoffrey Burbidge and Halton Arp, philosopher and telescope designer John Dobson, astronomers Jack Sulentic, Jean-Claude Pecker, and Margaret Burbidge.

    Illustrated with 3D animations and a lush symphonic soundtrack -this film is a scientific and historical “must” for anyone interested in astronomy and cosmology today.


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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=L6EGpg_BVBg



    Part 2



    https://youtube.com/watch?v=t7uT0...eature=related

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    Default Re: Maybe there was no "Big Bang"

    Very interesting, thanks for posting.
    i'm looking forward to watching them

    I am not a scientist but even i have questions that have never been answered about the evolution topic.
    For instance:

    First there was nothing.....and then it exploded with a big bang???

    There is no evidence that an explosion ever resulted in an increase in order!
    Then how can an explosion bring about this wonderful ordered universe?

    in my opinion it's question like these that make the big bang theory what it is......just a theory.

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    Default Re: Maybe there was no "Big Bang"

    It might indeed look like a big bang when a lot of energy and mass comes through a pinhole.
    Why not now?

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    Interestingly they seem to have observed some large differences in the Red Shift measurements of four different objects from the same location...two quasars,a galaxy and a satellite galaxy.

    If this is true then it puts some doubt on the Big Bang theory,the estimated age of the universe,the size of the universe,the expanding universe theory,using the red shift to measure distance and speed etc

    It could turn modern day cosmology on its head.

    They also postulate that the filament structure that galaxy super clusters have formed would have to of taken much longer than 13 billion years.

    Interesting stuff
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    Default Re: Maybe there was no "Big Bang"

    Feature Article: The 100 Year Wrong Turn in Cosmology
    • Universe - The Cosmology Quest (trailer):


    A critique of the current big bang theory of cosmology. Presents a timeline of the salient events in the last 100 years in the discipline.

    The Bullet Cluster: Evidence for Dark Matter or Not?

    An alternative hypothesis to the dark matter argument, we suggest that the lensing in the bullet cluster may be due simply to refraction by interstellar gas around the shock front.
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    Universe - The Cosmology Quest Part 1 of 2 (480p)

    A very good critque of the Big Bang theory - features Halton Arp, Fred Hoyle, Geoffrey Burbidge, and Jack Sulentic and history of academic suppression of the steady state theory of the universe.

    Universe - The Cosmology Quest Part 2 of 2 (480p)


    Features the ideas of Has Alfven and Kristian Birkeland, and interviews with Eric Lerner, author of "The Big Bang Never Happened." An in depth critique of the assumptions of the big bang theory, such as dark matter, dark energy, the meaning of cosmological redshift, and the lack of relevance of the cosmic microwave background radiation discovery to the big bang theory. Also discusses in depth the idea of the "plasma universe".
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    First I found super low quality 320x240p videos without Portuguese sub-titles (which I prefer) ... so I did a search on the web and torrent sites there is NO good unaltered quality versions online nor any torrent that are seeded well enough!
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    • Universe The Cosmology Quest Part 1 of 2 (Română Subs) HD1280x720p

    This film is an eye opener! I have always suspected that something was wrong in the logic of the Big-Bangers, but this beautifully executed DVD puts the last nail in the theory's coffin. A scientific revolution is in fact underway, and all the signs point to the fact that the age of dark matter, dark energy, or should we say the "dark age" is about to be illuminated and a new vision of our universe ushered in. I have seen a lot of documentaries about space and cosmology, but I promise - never one like this one, and very few as good. I highly recommend it to everyone interested in the subject.
    • Universe The Cosmology Quest Part 2 of 2 (Română Subs) HD1280x720p

    • A group of renowned cosmologists and astrophysicist are in search of a realistic picture of the universe. Their research and observational discoveries point in a direction diametrically opposed to the predominant Bog Bang theory - this leads to a series of sociological situations that verge on the extreme dogma controls wielded against Copernicus and Galileo in the past; only now against our protagonists of the 21st century. This is a controversial science documentary touching on the nerve of everything astronomers and cosmologist claim they know about the universe today.
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    • Has anyone a HD1280x720p version without hard-subtitles?
    I wish all YouTube'ers would add 1 or 2 horizontal black bars above and below (or 1 below) in the video and keep the video 100% intact when adding hard-subtitles below it.

    Difference between "soft-subtitles cc overlay" and "hard subtitles" is that with hard subtitles you can not edit it out anymore.

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