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    Quote Posted by Krullenjongen (here)
    There we go again with the Iranian state propaganda.

    Yes Israel bombed some target in Gaza.
    The question again is why.......and the answer is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockers into Israel.

    IDF: Hamas at fault for escalation in rocket fire from Gaza
    http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=229554
    So here is my bit of oil on this bonfire.
    All that needs to be said is that Israel is occupying Palestine, period. As long as they keep taking land illegally and they have been at it for a very long time, there will be violence on both sides. Israel zionists are the ones who took over the house, told the owners to go in the closet and locked the door.
    Anyone with self respect and the will to live and help its family would do what needs to be done to get out of that very crowded closet.

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    Quote Posted by Krullenjongen (here)
    There we go again with the Iranian state propaganda.

    Yes Israel bombed some target in Gaza.
    The question again is why.......and the answer is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockers into Israel.

    IDF: Hamas at fault for escalation in rocket fire from Gaza
    http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=229554
    from Iran to Israel news...

    Iran is the one launching the rockets at Israel so they come back with attacks they can put in the paper while Israel keeps their anger pointed at Hamas...

    Hamas is banging their head on a table while Iran is happy to be out of the spot light

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    @Krullenjongen:

    Israeli state sanctioned propaganda is no better than Iranian state sponsored propaganda imo.

    "The question again is why.......and the answer is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockers into Israel." < If the question you pose is to be: "why?" (if indeed it is Palestianian Nationals firing these Kassam rockets on this occasion) then we can equally apply that question to that situation too, no? ie. <what do you propose is the reason that these rockets are being fired?
    "Thus, the task is not so much to see what no one yet has seen, but to think what nobody yet has thought about that which everybody sees."
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    Great, lets pick sides, just like they want us to.
    What about the israelis and palestinians who AREN'T part of the problem?
    What about them?

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Great, lets pick sides, just like they want us to.
    What about the israelis and palestinians who AREN'T part of the problem?
    What about them?
    Love you, Lord Sid.....

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    Its turned into a childish tennis match, we did this because you did that, followed by, you did that so we will do this - repeat for what, 3000 odd years...

    What ever you fight you become, if either side truly wanted people they would not retaliate, if israel got bombed 3 times in a row without retaliating the whole world would condem palastine, and vice verca, because based on both side childish arguments this tennis match will go on for 3000 more years...

    In any case israel can do whatever they want, and the rest of world looks away, israel today is a zionist state, this has little to do with judeism, in fact alot the jews in israel are anti zionist...the world looks away because the same people who fund isreal fund the u.s as always private reserve banks

    If the media was honest they would condem all acts of killing as psychotic not matter what the reason....

    you can never end a war if you keep fighting...

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    Wafer Shaker al Daghma, 34, a teacher at a local UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) elementary school, was killed last Wednesday as she stood preparing to open the wooden door of her home to the troops. According to UNRWA and relatives who found her body, the military used an explosive device on the door which blew most of her head from her body. They then confined the traumatised children – aged from two to 13 – for five hours while the body lay outside the door of the room where they were held.

    Although the soldiers finally left the house – in darkness because of a blackout – at around 9pm, Mrs al Daghma's 13-year-old daughter Samira was too terrified to go outside for help for another two hours because of the continued presence of Israeli armoured vehicles outside her home.

    Tiles above a washbasin opposite the front door of the house were still heavily spattered with dried blood yesterday. There was a pile of splintered wooden planks from the destroyed door on the floor where Mrs al Daghma's body, which soldiers apparently covered with a rug, had lain as the military incursion continued.

    Chris Gunness, spokesman for UNRWA, said that the Israeli forces were using the house as a post to monitor "alleged militants". "The children heard many gun shots but do not know where they came from," he said. He said UNRWA had asked Israel in writing for "an impartial investigation, for accountability and allowing the facts to speak for themselves," adding: "We again condemn the killing of innocent civilians."

    Mrs al Daghma's widower, Majdi, 34, who was out of the house at the time, said his daughter had told him that her mother, knowing that troops were on a search and arrest operation in the vicinity, had put on a headscarf, told the children to go into a bedroom and said that she would open the door when the troops arrived.

    An Israeli tank had parked by the outer, open, metal door and the inner, wooden front door was then blasted open.

    "Samira heard a very loud explosion and there was a lot of smoke. She looked for her mother but couldn't see her," he said.

    Samira al Daghma said yesterday that after entering the house the soldiers had kept her, her sister Roba, four, and brother Qusay, two, in the room. "They did not let us out. There was one soldier at the door of the room. I asked him: 'Where is my mother?' He was speaking in Hebrew and I didn't understand him."

    She said that when the soldiers finally left, she crawled with her siblings to a room on the eastern side of the house. "There were still tanks outside our house and if I had gone out they would have seen me. I tried to call my father on my mother's Jawwal [cellphone] but there was no line. I lifted the carpet and saw a bit of my mother's clothes. She was not moving. I did not see her head."

    Mr al Daghma said the family were Fatah rather than Hamas supporters. The funeral was arranged by Fatah and there were Arafat portraits in the house yesterday. The Israeli military said it was looking into the incident.

    The Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert yesterday promised "strong action" to stop Gaza militants if they continued their attacks after a 48-year-old Israeli father-of-four was killed by a Hamas-claimed mortar on Friday. Oxfam urged Israel to avert a health crisis as Gaza's power station shut down, saying it had run out of fuel.
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    Mmmm, war criminals?
    Without a doubt, dirtbags too.
    Will anything be done?
    Probably not.

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    GAZA CITY (Ma’an) – Seven people were wounded in Gaza on Sunday by what medical sources said was an Israeli airstrike, but Israel denied it had carried out any such raid.

    Emergency and ambulance services official Adham Abu Salmiya said all of the victims were members of the Zaanin family. They were evacuated to Beit Hanoun Hospital.

    Abu Salmiya highlighted that over the past two weeks, three people were killed and more than 20 were injured in Israeli raids on the coastal enclave. Among the injured, he added, were six children and two girls.

    But a spokeswoman for the Israeli military said "there was no IDF activity in Gaza overnight or this morning."

    Israeli forces have been launching strikes on a daily basis over the past four days.

    Meanwhile, three so-called Qassam rockets fired from the Gaza Strip on Saturday night hit open areas in the western Negev, Israeli media reported Sunday morning.

    There were no reports of injuries or damage.

    The first projectile exploded at around 1 a.m. within the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council, the Israeli news site Ynet reported. Two additional projectiles landed in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council.

    On Saturday, a Palestinian man was injured by an Israeli airstrike on northern Gaza. Two days earlier, an airstrike killed one man and injured five others in the tunnel area near Egypt.

    Israeli army officials and Palestinian security sources said the most recent raid targeted a group of militants as they prepared to launch a homemade projectile toward Israel from the east of Gaza City.

    The commander of Israel's army Benny Gantz held an urgent meeting Friday to discuss the situation along the border with Gaza and "practical steps" to end projectile fire, news reports said.

    Israel's Hebrew-language daily Maariv said the meeting was attended by senior commanders of the Israeli army in various wings including the commander of the southern region.

    The army officials said they held Hamas "fully responsible for this situation," allegedly for deliberately failing to stop the firing of projectiles into southern Israel after a sharp decrease of several months.

    The past few days of rocket fire and airstrikes represent the first significant recurrence of violence in the area since April, when airstrikes killed 19 Palestinians after a missile fired from Gaza killed a teenager.

    Israel has imposed a blockade on the Gaza Strip since Hamas took control in 2007.
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    Quote Israeli naval commandoes have taken over a small French ship as it approached the Gaza Strip to break Israel's blockade of the Palestinian coastal sliver.


    Israeli commandoes boarded the Dignite/Al Karama, and took control of the ship on Tuesday as it approached the Gaza Strip. All the communications have been jammed, and activists on board can't be reached by phone or by Internet, a Press TV correspondent reported.

    The vessel left the Greek island of Kastellorizo late on Saturday following a troubled stay in Greece, after Athens imposed a ban on the departure of any ship planning to join the Gaza-bound Freedom Flotilla II.

    Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon told reporters in al-Quds (Jerusalem) on Monday that "If this boat is on its way to Gaza and tries a provocative act -- yes, we shall intercept it."

    More than 300 activists from 22 countries have signed up to participate in Freedom Flotilla II.

    Members of the flotilla say the Greek government is blocking the humanitarian convoy on behalf of the Israeli regime.

    Greece has recently expanded its ties with Israel, as the two sides are currently holding preliminary talks on potential energy deals.

    The Israeli military attacked the Freedom Flotilla in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea on May 31, 2010, killing nine Turkish nationals aboard the Turkish-flagged MV Mavi Marmara, and injuring about 50 other activists that were part of the team on the six-ship convoy.

    The Tel Aviv regime has ordered the Israeli navy to use all possible means to prevent the incoming international aid flotilla from reaching the Gaza Strip, but the Gaza Freedom Flotilla II organizers insist that they will push ahead with their aid mission.

    Israel laid an economic siege on Gaza in June 2007, after Hamas took control of the strip. The blockade has had a disastrous impact on the humanitarian and economic situation in the Gaza Strip.

    Some 1.5 million people are being denied their basic rights, including the freedom of movement, and the rights to appropriate living conditions, work, health and education. Poverty and unemployment rates stand at approximately 80 percent and 60 percent, respectively, in the Gaza Strip.
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    YOUR US DOLLARS AT WORK.

    VIDEO - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ts-israel-navy

    Harriet Sherwood watches the Israeli navy force back Palestinians who dispute 'security' fishing limit.

    Hani al-Asi, a fisherman since the age of 11 and a father with 12 mouths to feed, had just begun throwing his lines into the Mediterranean when an Israeli gunboat sped towards his traditional hasaka.

    With a machine gun mounted at the rear and half a dozen armed soldiers on the bridge, the navy vessel repeatedly circled the small fishing boat. The rolling waves caused by the backwash threatened to swamp it.

    Asi had stopped his boat over an artificial reef created by dumped cars to attract the dwindling fish population. He was just beyond the limit of three nautical miles from the Gaza shoreline set by the Israeli military for Palestinian fishermen, beyond which they are forbidden to fish for "security reasons".

    "We see them every day," he said, shrugging at the gunboat's presence. "I got used to this. Every day they are around us - shooting, damaging the boat, sometimes people are injured. If we were scared, we wouldn't fish. But we have nothing else to do."

    With the boat rocking forcefully, the gunboat's crew addressed Asi in Arabic through its loudspeaker. "You are in a forbidden area. Go back." Asi pulled in the lines and headed back to port.

    "The best place to fish is more than 10 miles out," he said. "But every time we exceed three miles, they shoot at us, use the water [cannon], take the nets. Even today when foreigners are with us, they were trying to tip the boat over."

    Under the 1993 Oslo accords, Palestinian fishermen were permitted to fish up to 20 nautical miles off the coast of Gaza. Over the past 18 years, the fishing area has been successively eroded, most recently in 2007 when Israel imposed a limit of three nautical miles as part of its land and sea blockade of Gaza after Hamas took control of the territory.

    But fishermen and human rights groups say that, since the war in Gaza in 2008-09, the Israeli military regularly enforces a limit even closer to the shore.

    The restriction has devastated Gaza's fishing industry. "It is a catastrophic situation," said Khalil Shaheen of the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights. "Sixty thousand people are dependent on [the fishing industry], and 85% of daily income has been lost."

    Fishermen on both sides of the three-mile limit, he said, were subjected to harassment, live fire, confiscation of boats and nets, and water cannon, sometimes impregnated with foul-smelling chemicals.

    Since early June, a coalition of Palestinian and international organisations under the umbrella of Civil Peace Service Gaza has been monitoring encounters between fishermen and the Israeli military from its own boat, the Oliva.

    But in the past fortnight, the Oliva itself has become a target for the Israeli navy, with repeated assaults on it by military vessels. Last Wednesday, the Guardian hired a boat to accompany the monitors plus a handful of hasakas out to sea.

    At around the three-mile limit, the small flotilla was approached and repeatedly circled by two Israeli gunboats. The engines of the hasakas were cut as the waves caused by the gunboats' backwash rose and fell. After about 20 minutes, the gunboats withdrew as a third military vessel, deploying water cannon, arrived.

    A powerful jet of water was targeted at the Oliva, causing the boat to rock dangerously and drenching those aboard. After repeated dousings, the Oliva's captain ordered the four passengers to clamber on to an adjacent hasaka, fearing his boat was about to sink. As the Oliva's engine was hit by the military vessel, he too was forced to abandon ship.

    From a distance it seemed impossible that the Oliva would not go under. But its captain and other fishermen managed to secure a rope to try to tow it back to port. The military boat followed the Oliva and the other boats at some speed, still firing its water cannon, for several minutes.

    According to Salah Ammar, the Oliva's captain, the boats were within the three-mile limit. "We don't even reach two miles before they chase us with guns and water [cannon]," he said.

    However, GPS co-ordinates taken by the Guardian during Wednesday's encounter showed the position of the boats to be outside the permitted zone.

    In a statement, the Israeli Defence Force said: "The ongoing hostilities between Israel and Palestinian terror organisations create significant security risks along the coast of the Gaza Strip. Due to these risks, fishing along the coasts has been restricted to a distance of three nautical miles from shore. Fishermen in Gaza are aware of these restrictions as they have been notified of them on numerous occasions. The restrictions and their enforcement by the Israel navy are in complete accordance with international law."

    The United Nations and human rights organisations say the fishing restriction is collective punishment in violation of international law.

    Shaheen rejects Israel's justification. "The Israeli navy has never found evidence that fishermen involved in violations have been involved weapons smuggling," he said. The "environment of daily harassment" was part of Israel's "illegal collective punishment and closure of Gaza".

    The Oliva's engine was damaged in Wednesday's encounter but Ammar was planning to go out to sea again the next day if he could locate the parts he needed to fix it. "Every time I know what will happen. They will shoot water on me, fire bullets. But I get hundreds of calls asking, 'When will you go out?'" The fishermen, he says, want the protection they believe is afforded by the presence of international monitors on board the boat.

    Asi, back at the port after his aborted fishing trip, was puzzled by the military's aggression towards fisherman whose faces, he says, the soldiers must recognise after repeated encounters. "The point is not security for the Israelis. They know everything. They arrested many of us and searched many boats and never found anything."

    His morning's haul consisted of one large sea bass, sold for 150 shekels, and three smaller, worthless fish. After deducting 50 shekels for fuel, 50 shekels for bait, and 10 shekels to put aside for his boat's maintenance, he and his assistant pocketed 20 shekels (£3.60) each for their day's work.

    Would he be going out again the next day? "Inshallah [if God wills it]. This is the only source I have to feed my family."

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    Ok, I watched the video.
    Defending your nation and people from threats SHOULD be a noble and honourable thing to do.
    However, humiliating and degrading people who are no threat to you, just because you can?
    NOT honourable, NOT noble and in the long run, only harms those doing it.
    I wish I were with the fisherman.
    I would hoist the orange white and green tricolour of Eire and shout to the waterborne dirtbags ''Ní siocháin go saoirse''
    I would have been tempted to drop my pants and moon em too, to show the utter contempt I feel for bullies and cowards.

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    hmmm wonder how many news channels would have showed this if this was the other way round.

    It clearly shows it's not Palestinians vs Israelis, it's a match between haves who get away with everything against have nots! we have

    oh get off our planet such bullies we surely don't need you!!! and can't wait till Karma bites those who do such things where they deserve!!

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    This is disgusting behaviour. They (the IDF and the entire mechanism that uses and supports it) are beyond contempt. They are morally stunted pond scum causing suffering for the joy of it. The sadistic bastards deserve all they're dealing and more, and I hope to the god I don't believe in that they get it sooner or later.

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    "95 percent of drinking water fails to meet international standards and water and sanitation plants have yet to rebuilt following the 2009 Israeli war"



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    When a whole population can't get clean water to drink because another group denies them that right, then we are talking about war crimes.
    This madness will come back on the aggressors three times over, such is the law of the universe.
    Advocate against that as much as you like criminals, life is a bitch.

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    The health ministry has stressed that the lives of hundreds of patients, especially those with chronic diseases, are in danger as many centers have run out of essential medication and medical items, a Press TV correspondent reported on Sunday.

    The situation will further deteriorate as the impoverished strip is soon to run out of fuel to run electrical generators, on which many of Gaza's hospitals rely on, officials warned on Friday.

    Health Ministry official Bassam Barhoum said that electricity generators will stop if fuel is not supplied within a few days, adding that this would affect every single hospital in Gaza, Ma'an News Agency reported.

    Additionally, a state of emergency was declared in Gaza's medical sector in June as a result of a shortage of medical supplies.

    Officials in Gaza blame the harsh Israeli siege on the coastal strip for the shortages. On several occasions, Gaza health officials have called on the international community to pressure Israel to put an end to its illegal siege of the coast.

    More than 1.5 million Palestinians are currently living in Gaza under siege conditions, imposed on the coastal strip in 2007.
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    to help matters Israel jets just bombed a medicine production facility in Gaza

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    "95 percent of drinking water fails to meet international standards and water and sanitation plants have yet to rebuilt following the 2009 Israeli war"



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    Israeli Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aaronovitch, whose remarks were aired by the Israeli public radio and the regime's Channel One TV, claimed that “the steady shower of missiles” from Gaza is not tolerable and Israel must retaliate with a “broad military action,” AFP reported on Tuesday.

    The hawkish remarks of the Israeli official came amid a recent surge of violence, including airstrikes on Gaza and arrests of Palestinian civilians in the region.

    On Tuesday, Israeli fighter jets pounded a tunnel under the enclave's border with Egypt.

    The Israeli army frequently bombs the tunnel network in Gaza, claiming that Palestinian resistance fighters use the tunnels to store and smuggle in weapons.

    Palestinians, however, dismiss such allegations, insisting that they were forced to resort to the underground tunnels to bring in basic living supplies to the impoverished Gazans because the territory has been sealed off to the outside world by a punishing Israeli blockade for over three years.

    Earlier on Monday, Israeli military forces shot dead two Palestinians in the Qalandia refugee camp in the occupied West Bank after the two hurled stones at Israeli troops who were making arrests in the camp.

    In another incident on Friday, at least 15 Palestinians were injured when Israeli soldiers were trying to disperse peaceful protesters demanding the reopening of the main entrance of Kafr Qaddum village in northern West Bank.

    Israel also launched an all-out military offensive on the besieged Gaza Strip three days before the turn of 2009. The ensuing three-week war killed more than 1,400 Palestinians, including many women and children.
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