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    I ran into this info several years ago and have been brushing my teeth with Dr Bronners Peppermint Bar Soap ever since. My dental health has improved markedly since. My dentist has been amazed. (by the way, the right kind of soap is actually delicious)
    Quote DENTAL HEALTH
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    This letter was sent out in April 2002 by Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D., Chemist, and Researcher. For his Curriculum Vitae, scroll to the bottom of this page.
    Dear Government Executive and Employee: We can all stop spending billions for American dental work and research. Let me tell you why: I have learned the real causes of dental cavities and gum infection. People, including you, will now be able to take care of their own dentistry with insignificant cost, and end with perfect teeth. Cavities and gum infections are ended! A great amount of REPUTABLE DENTAL RESEARCH proves the following:
    1. Tooth cavities will be ended simply by rinsing acids off the teeth. ACIDS ALONE EAT THE ENAMEL. There would be no cavities in the world if all people rinsed acids from their teeth promptly. Just sip water, milk or other liquid while eating. Water reacts with acids.
    2. Foods and drinks, other than those containing acids, have no action on tooth enamel. SUGARS HAVE NO ACTION ON THE ENAMEL.
    3. Bacteria cannot damage the enamel (calcium hydroxy phosphate). There is no such thing as decay of the enamel since bacteria require carbon and hydrogen to live. Billions of human and animal remains show teeth and bones are resistant to earth-bound organisms.
    4. Teeth reenamalize when clean. TO MAKE TEETH CLEAN ONE BRUSHES WITH ANY BAR SOAP. ( There are good toothpastes at the health food stores. Check the ingredients before buying. Don't get anything with glycerine in it.) Soap washes off in just 2 rinses. What about toothpastes? Glycerine in all tooth pastes is so sticky that it takes 27 washes to get it off. Teeth brushed with any toothpaste are coated with a film and CANNOT PROPERLY REENAMELIZE.
    5. Taking calcium and phosphate in the diet results in reenamelization of the teeth, but only when they are clean. Bar soap does a perfect job in cleaning the surface. The enamel thickens and becomes less sensitive. Adenosine diphosphatase furnishes phosphate to teeth.
    6. Gums are disinfected by brushing with any bar soap. Not only bacteria and viruses are destroyed promptly by small amounts of soap in water, but also white flies and aphids. Gardeners: Spray 1 tsp of dishwashing soap in 1 gallon of water to kill white flies and aphids.
    7. Plaque, a poorly formed crystal stuck to the bottom of the enamel, is prevented and eventually removed by brushing with bar soap. Dental procedures to get the badly formed crystals off dig holes through the enamel. These cavities catch food and cause gum infection.
    8. Prevention of plaque retards gum pockets. Gum pockets are formed as the plaque pushes the gums away from the teeth. Gum pockets, from 1 to 8 mm deep, are also formed by FLUORIDE, which severs the protein molecules adhering the gums to the teeth. SOAP PREVENTS GINGIVITIS caused by bacteria which is lodged in the gum pockets.
    9. VITAMIN C AND PHOSPHATE help knit the gums back to the teeth. Pressing against the gums with fingers forces adhesive materials from the gums onto the teeth, which helps the process. Abscesses can be offset by holding Cepacol (14% alcohol) in the mouth 5 minutes.
    10. Receding gum surgery will end when the gum pockets cease. The very mention of the procedure, which involves transferring flesh from the roof of the mouth to the excised area of the gums, is a heinous and useless procedure which ought to pass into oblivion.
    11. Removal of flouride from drinking water, pastes or gels saves the enzyme adenosine diphosphatase so it can deliver phosphate to calcium at the tooth surface, resulting in a beautiful, semi-flexible enamel.
    12. As stated above, the gums can be reconnected to the teeth by taking vitamin C (ascorbic acid) (1 tsp) with Arm and Hammer baking soda (1/2 tsp) in 1 inch of water, letting it fizz and then diluting to 1/2 to 1 cup with water, then drinking. The resulting SODIUM ASCORBATE is non-acid, very pure and a thousand times more soluble than vitamin C. Sodium ascorbate is more reactive than ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) in building connective tissue and antibody structures and more effective in killing some viruses and bacteria.
    13. Receding gums and plaque are ended when soap is used for brushing and vitamin C is taken daily in the form just mentioned.
    14. 30% of American youths ages 8-10 have no cavities. 100% of Ugandan youths ages 6-10 have no cavities. What does this tell us?
    15. The reason Ugandan youths have 3 times better teeth than American youths is because they do not consume as many acid foods, have no fluoride in their drinking water, have regular meals rather than sipping acid drinks all day, have more calcium and phosphate in their diet, and have fewer dentists to work on their teeth.
    16. Dental literature says 42% of Americans over 65 have no natural teeth, while 25% of those over 43 have none.
    17. Dental literature says Americans age 43 average 32 cavities, those age 17 have 13 cavities, blacks and poverty stricken (without calcium and phosphate) have twice this and the native Americans have four times this amount. The Native American plight can be blamed on their poor nutrition, excessive fluoridation, and free but improper dental care.
    18. If fluoridation were effective in preventing cavities, Native Americans would have the least cavities. They have had forced fluoridation for approximately 62 years.
    19. Fluoride in water at 1 part per million INCREASED tooth cavities in four large reliable studies (7%, 22%, 45% and 10%, averaging 21%). The reason far these increases has to do with the fact that adenosine diphosphatase is destroyed by fluoride and CALCIUM FLUORIDE which slips into the enamel, is alien to the tooth composite and makes the enamel weak, brittle and discolored.
    20. The health of American teeth will increase to be very nearly perfect if the regimen of water rinsing, soap brushing and taking calcium, phosphate and vitamin C in the diet is implemented.
    21. Fortunately, we now know the current teeth perfecting protocol of dentistry with fluoridation is flawed. If the early estimates of 80% tooth improvement in childrens' teeth by age 13 were true, each American would now have less than one cavity. That is far from true. The teeth in America are in a sorry state, and at the present time are getting worse.
    22. Numerous top scientists over the past 60 years have discarded the theory that fluoride helps teeth, or is a nutrient helpful to man.
    23. To avoid fluoride is to prevent more than 114 ailments listed with references in a book "Good Teeth Birth to Death" by Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D.. These 114 medical side effects extend all the way from cancer down to headaches caused by 1 ppm fluoride in the water. Thirteen of these side effects are proved by a double blind study on 60 patients by 12 physicians, 1 pharmacist and 1 attorney.
    24. The mechanism for destruction of enzymes by fluoride has been proven by x-ray studies. Hydrogen bonds are broken by fluoride.
    25. Fluoride is the smallest negative particle on the face of the earth. Since the fluoride particles are so small and so intensely negative, they connect with the hydrogen bonds holding the enzyme coils in place and ruin every enzyme molecule at very low concentration, around 1-3 ppm. These enzymes are often 3,000 or more times the small size of the fluoride. The effect is ruinous.
    26. To avoid fluoride is to prevent the destruction of 83 enzymes listed with references in Good Teeth, Birth to Death, by Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D.. Fluoride is a severe biological poison. Being intensely negative, it unlatches positive hydrogen bonds in enzymes AND proteins.
    27. It is fortunate we have learned fluoride is a nerve poison. Fluoride causes cavities. There is not the slightest doubt.
    28. Methylmercury formed from amalgams in the body is deadly. It causes brain disease. Fillings made of quartzite and epoxy are a safe substitute.
    29. Fluoride harms the economy by making people purchase other than city water to avoid it. It also harms the economy by making people dependent on undependable professions that know nothing about it. Ignorance about fluoride and what it does is worldwide.
    30. Keep the teeth moist. Teeth that are dry crack. If you chew ice, teeth may crumble. Teeth do have a breaking strength.
    31. LOOK IN YOUR MOUTH. Tell the dentist(s) what you want done and get several bids for examination and work. Save your fortunes. We now know we can cancel the green light given by Harry Truman with the help of Congress to subsidize dentistry. Billions of dollars being wasted in this regard (Public Law 755, June 24, 1948) can now be returned to the taxpayers.
    I hope you will put this information in the hands of your Congress persons so they and we may alert the newspapers, radio and TV stations, magazines, and all other news media as well as their friends, families, and associates about this giant leap in dental technology.
    I ask for your feedback on this letter and I would also like you to ask for feedback from the ones you contact. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!
    Respectfully yours, Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Chemistry
    ADDRESSEE: Please mail a copy of this letter to your Congressperson, asking what they are going to do about this terrible incompetence and waste in dentistry and government spending. Thanking you, I am Gerard F. Judd.
    PARTIAL CREDENTIALS OF DR JUDD — October 24, 2002 — 6615 W Lupine, Glendale AZ 85304
    1. Ph.D. from Purdue University.
    2. Researcher in industry: 18 years.
    3. Professor of chemistry: 33 years; retired professor emeritus.
    4. Fluoride laboratory studies: Linde, Purdue, Wright Field and Phoenix College, 13 years.
    5. Author, revised: Good Teeth Birth to Death, 117 pp. July 1997.
    6. Author, revised: Chemistry, Its Uses In Everyday Life, 305 pp. July 1997.
    7. Author, Workbook, Self Quizzes and Laboratory Assignments for Chemistry, Its Uses In Everyday Life, July 16, 1997.
    8. Author, Chemical Hygiene Plan, 89 pp, 4-23-1998.
    9. Speaker, writer, radio host, bookseller, age 79, continuing October 24, 2002.
    10. Fighter for truth in practical uses of chemistry.
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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    How about Listerine

    Active ingredient Purpose
    Sodium fluoride 0.02%
    (0.01% w/v fluoride ion) Anticavity
    Use
    • Anticavity
    Warnings
    Keep out of reach of children. If more than used for rinsing is accidentally swallowed, get medical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away.
    Directions

    • Adults and children 6 years of age and older:
    Use twice daily after brushing your teeth with a
    toothpaste
    Vigorously swish 10 ml (2 teaspoonfuls) of rinse
    between your teeth for 1 minute and then spit out
    Do not swallow the rinse
    Do not eat or drink for 30 minutes after rinsing
    Supervise children as necessary until capable of
    using without supervision
    • Children under 6 years of age: consult a dentist or doctor.
    Other information
    Store at controlled room temperature 20° - 25°C
    (68° - 77°F)
    Cold weather may temporarily cloud this product
    Inactive ingredients
    water, sorbitol solution, propylene glycol, flavor, sodium lauryl sulfate, poloxamer 407, sodium benzoate, phosphoric acid, eucalyptol, thymol, methyl salicylate, sodium saccharin, menthol, disodium phosphate, sucralose, FD&C red no. 40, FD&C blue no. 1



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    “ Listerine, for instance, was invented in the nineteenth century as powerful surgical antiseptic. It was later sold, in distilled form, as both a floor cleaner and a cure for gonorrhea. But it wasn't a runaway success until the 1920s, when it was pitched as a solution for "chronic halitosis"— a then obscure medical term for bad breath. Listerine's new ads featured forlorn young women and men, eager for marriage but turned off by their mate's rotten breath. "Can I be happy with him in spite of that?" one maiden asked herself. Until that time, bad breath was not conventionally considered such a catastrophe. But Listerine changed that. As the advertising scholar James B. Twitchell writes, "Listerine did not make mouthwash as much as it made halitosis." In just seven years, the company's revenues rose from $115,000 to more than $8 million.
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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    I am happy with Peelu toothpaste:
    Quote Ingredients: Vegetable glycerin, deionized water, peelu powder, titanium dioxide USP, xanthan gum, cultured maltodextrin (a natural preservative), xylitol, natural oil of cinnamon, tea tree oil.
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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    This is my choice (also the powder) - good stuff

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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    I have 0 cavaties.

    The only 4 teeth i have had removed are my wisdom teeth, which were removed becuase they were growign inward - pushing the rest of my teeth in on eachother.

    1 of my front teeth will probably have to be removed - but this is a result of being punched in the face and the tooth being moved/bloodflow to it cut.


    I drunk milk by the bottle as a kid. My parents were strict as in regards to me brushing my teeth every night - which i still do today.

    If you want to have perfect teeth. Simply brush every night. Dont even need flouride toothpaste, that stuff's crap anyway. Here's the stuff i used, since everyone is doing a toothpaste show and tell http://www.thursdayplantation.com/pr...ree-Toothpaste


    You'd probably vomit if you (or we coudl get some accurate numbers) realised how many people have extreamly poor oral hygene. IE only brush their teeth as part of getting ready for special occasions, etc.
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    Timely post The Abundant Traveller, Thank you - I have THE most awful toothache. Very unusal for me. I'm off to the dentist later today. With the tooth pain and the vivid dreams each night I am exhausted. I need to go on a retreat and soon.
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    Dr. Weston Price said we don't need to brush our teeth if we eat as we should. Native cultures don't brush and they have perfect teeth.

    Anyone ever try soap shreads? Just little bits of dried olive oil and peppermint. Cleans well, but tastes a little funky.

    Listerine kills beneficial bacteria in the mouth. Not suitable for good oral health, no.

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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    No matter how much I took care of my teeth, I still had problems. So, what I did was I stopped using tooth pastes of any kind, even the ones that claimed to use natural ingredients. For years now, I've been using Baking Soda and it seems better for me. Cleans better, too....
    Thanks for sharing this, TAT....

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    About swallowing mouthwash: expect weight gain, too.

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    Quote I am happy with Peelu toothpaste:
    Ingredients: Vegetable glycerin, deionized water, peelu powder, titanium dioxide USP, xanthan gum, cultured maltodextrin (a natural preservative), xylitol, natural oil of cinnamon, tea tree oil.
    Here's the problem.... vegetable glycerin.... that is what is causing cavities and gum disease according to the article I posted. BEWARE glycerin!!!

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    Timely post The Abundant Traveller, Thank you - I have THE most awful toothache. Very unusal for me. I'm off to the dentist later today. With the tooth pain and the vivid dreams each night I am exhausted. I need to go on a retreat and soon.
    PEACE & LOVE to you
    I have found most of my toothaches are caused by imbalances in my meridian system. According to Chinese medicine, we have a meridian attached to each tooth root.

    But if your tooth ache is caused by infection try swishing with MMS and then swallowing a solution made with 3 drops each hour.(as recommended by Jim Humble... see http://JimHumble.biz) This should correct anything in your mouth within 1 to 3 days.
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    Our teeth are pizoelectric conductors. Take care of them or your energy will not flow properly.

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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    For years now, I've been using Baking Soda and it seems better for me.
    That's what I've been using for a couple of years now.

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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    So a while ago, my friend told me you shouldn't actually use anything abrasive, so I quit the baking soda.

    I use Cal Ben bar soap. My teeth are whiter and it doesn't really taste that bad. A little soapy.

    Dr. Bronners is all great stuff in my book. We used the baby mild soap until I was introduced to Cal Ben. I really, really like it. Not that I can pinpoint exactly why.

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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    G'day All,

    Here's my brand, and I have been using if for decades. I have had no dental work in 35 years, although I may be in need of an extraction some time soon. That's OK, as I see no sense in taking a showroom condition set of pearly whites to the grave!

    I tried to find to find the list of ingredients online, but could not. It is a concoction of around 20 herbs and barks, and tastes great too!
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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    I agree with the baking soda group - been using it for 6 months now. When I quit regular toothpaste - my family thought I was crazy for throwing out the Crest because it's the best one, right? ...ahh, advertising... I've insisted on either Tom's Toothpaste - fennel is the tastiest - or plain baking soda. I drink two cups of coffee every morning however you'd never know it by looking at my teeth.

    Is anyone on here old enough to remember Omni Magazine? A long, long time ago (in a galaxy far far away) they ran a story and wanted contributions that sounded true which you might hear at a cocktail party. One of the submissions was, "did you know that toothpaste is mostly sugar?" and I thought, hmmm, what made them pick THAT to satirize? Anyway it's always stuck in my head along with the other flotsom and when I began my "healthy kick" waay back when the first thing I remembered was that toothpaste quip, did my research and threw them all in the trash.

    And I agree with Cliff High that September is going to kick our butts - exciting times we live in (chosen to live in).

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    Thanks for this info...I found it really interesting! Definitely resonates. I haven't used fluoride for years, but my natural toothpaste has glycerine in it. I didn't realize that glycerine forms a barrier that stops our teeth from being able to repair themselves. I just tried Dr. Bronner's rose soap (I had no peppermint on hand).....oh la la...seriously hardcore! I think I probably used a bit too much...I was foaming at the mouth..felt like a naughty child in the cartoons!! I'll try the peppermint one...and use less...maybe the experience will improve!

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    Timely post The Abundant Traveller, Thank you - I have THE most awful toothache. Very unusal for me. I'm off to the dentist later today. With the tooth pain and the vivid dreams each night I am exhausted. I need to go on a retreat and soon.
    PEACE & LOVE to you
    I have found most of my toothaches are caused by imbalances in my meridian system. According to Chinese medicine, we have a meridian attached to each tooth root.

    But if your tooth ache is caused by infection try swishing with MMS and then swallowing a solution made with 3 drops each hour.(as recommended by Jim Humble... see http://JimHumble.biz) This should correct anything in your mouth within 1 to 3 days.
    Use an MMS solution in a water pik, the pressure will get right to the difficult areas, and down between the teeth.

    works incredibly well.
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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    To bad wal-mart doesnt have anything other then baking soda. oh well

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    My wife and I have been using Tom's Toothpastes for several years now, fairly satisfied and needing no dental work during this time, but we have just recently switched to making our own. The reason: Tom's & other alternative products are just too damn expensive!! Our recipe is to mix baking soda, coconut oil (which is just the best thing on this planet!!), peppermint oil, and olive oil.

    We also got tired of paying money so that we could slather chemicals in our armpits! We started making our own using this simple and cheap recipe:

    Passionate Homemaking's homemade deodorant recipe :

    5-6 Tbsp Coconut oil
    1/4 cup baking soda
    1/4 cup arrowroot powder or cornstarch (we used cornstarch)

    1. Combine baking soda and arrowroot powder/cornstarch.
    2. Cut coconut oil into the powder mixture with a fork or spoon until you reach deodorant consistency.
    3. Scoop deodorant into an clean deodorant dispenser or small jar to apply with your fingers.

    The stuff works great and it is very inexpensive!!
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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    Just to let you know I have tried the soap bar (Wright's Coal Tar) and it cleaned my teeth really really well but blaaaagh - gurgle ..... I would stick with it if I could grow another couple of back teeth but ........ although it did clean my teeth the after taste didn't "feel" clean, know what I mean ..... ? I have also tried bicarb and found it an effective cleaner but ditto the after taste .... need something with ZING - maybe like toilet duck but less corrosive. Any ideas ? (I have a feeling that listerine and toilet duck are the same product ...)

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