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    Timely post The Abundant Traveller, Thank you - I have THE most awful toothache. Very unusal for me. I'm off to the dentist later today. With the tooth pain and the vivid dreams each night I am exhausted. I need to go on a retreat and soon.
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    I have found most of my toothaches are caused by imbalances in my meridian system. According to Chinese medicine, we have a meridian attached to each tooth root.

    But if your tooth ache is caused by infection try swishing with MMS and then swallowing a solution made with 3 drops each hour.(as recommended by Jim Humble... see http://JimHumble.biz) This should correct anything in your mouth within 1 to 3 days.
    Use an MMS solution in a water pik, the pressure will get right to the difficult areas, and down between the teeth.

    works incredibly well.
    I've been using MMS for about a year now. My last dental checkup confirmed no cavities, and the dental hygienist says: " I see you took my advice and are using the fluoride mouthwash and toothpaste?" I just chuckled...

    My gum line was so receded they would bleed when I brushed with toothpaste, but now my gums are healing and the readings a year ago had 7's in the back teeth, and now are 5's, and I smoke cigarettes and drink coffee.
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    Say "Cheese" with confidence!

    Baking soda for me as well.
    Really, you'll get used to the salty taste.


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    Toilet duck?? really?? This is a great thread, especially since I just visited a new dentist yesterday. It was absolutely TOO New Age. The hot rocks and lavender and face pack was really nice and I loved talking about my teeth for an hour, but I went to get my teeth fixed, paid money and left in the same condition. She is actually wonderful and any traumatized person with teeth and money would love her. I really appreciate the glycerin info. Vicco doesn't appear to have it, which is great. Sometimes I use that, sometimes I brush with hydrogen peroxide, sometimes baking soda and sometimes coconut oil. I do have some Dr. Bronner's, so I'll try that out. My Holistic dentist recommended that I get a water pik before I do anything else. So that's the next expenditure. Maybe I won't have to go back.

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    well i decided to give the bar soap a try......the one I had is cranberry all natural soap.....it didn't taste bad at all.......I was really concerned that it would be horrible but it was actually fine.......the weird thing is the other night I was brushing my teeth with Toms (before I learned about the SLS in it) and I said to my husband I dont know why but I feel like I need to keep my tongue away from the toothpaste like there is something in it that's bad for me....we assumed since it was in the Organic food area and said NO FLUORIDE that it must be good........anyway the soap was surprisingly not bad at all.

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    I cannot stress strongly enough, If one has a toothache..to use a waterpik and mms, as a combination.

    Impossible to beat.

    If one does not have anything but the mms, then use it with a brush.

    I make a 4-5 drop mix, then put in about 3-4 oz (150ml) of non sweetened cranberry juice..and then brush with that. cleans the mouth, ends the toothache, and cleans the brush.

    the finest solution I've ever found for 'taking' MMS, regarding the gag reflex, etc..is to mix it with non-sweetened cranberry juice. I've taken over 20 drops with only 4 oz of unsweetened cranberrry juice.
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    I have recently switched from toms tooth paste to a product called ORALIVE. It stresses the need for a healthy micro flora in the mouth and it uses different microbes to reset the oral bioterrain in the mouth. Here is what is in it; balancing paste made of live edible clays, superfoods, oxygenated essential oils, deep ocean trace minerals, ancient probiotic bacteria, elk antler velvet extract. No soaps or flouride. I bought it at ascendedhealth.com. It is kind of like brushing your teeth with nice flavored mud. Brings me back to my child hood when I use to eat sand. But the after affect is very good- minty and fresh.

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    Default Re: Healthy Teeth - Or How Toothpaste Causes Most Dental Problems

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    I cannot stress strongly enough, If one has a toothache..to use a waterpik and mms, as a combination.

    Impossible to beat.

    If one does not have anything but the mms, then use it with a brush.

    I make a 4-5 drop mix, then put in about 3-4 oz (150ml) of non sweetened cranberry juice..and then brush with that. cleans the mouth, ends the toothache, and cleans the brush.

    the finest solution I've ever found for 'taking' MMS, regarding the gag reflex, etc..is to mix it with non-sweetened cranberry juice. I've taken over 20 drops with only 4 oz of unsweetened cranberrry juice.
    I think the vitamin c in the cranberry juice disables the MMS action.....
    I have a soap store close to home, they make hand made soap.
    I always thought soap needed glycerine ??
    Will go and see if they have homemade soap without it, I buy a peppermint soap that is really great, I will see if i can use that.

    also,isn't MMS acid?
    I had a bad breath episode that lasted a few weeks, so i decided to try the MMS cure. It seemed to me that I eroded some of the enamel doing this.
    any reflections on this?
    thanks for the great thread
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    We use Kiss My Face. It's made with organic aloe vera gel. Fluoride free, sweetener free and sodium lauryl sulfate free. It does have glycerin though. Tastes amazing, makes your teeth super clean and white. My daughter loves it.

    http://www.kissmyface.com/product/item/3
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    Quote Posted by Laurel (here)
    We use Kiss My Face. It's made with organic aloe vera gel, fluoride, sweetener and sodium lauryl sulfate free. It does have glycerin though. Tastes amazing, makes your teeth super clean and white. My daughter loves it.

    http://www.kissmyface.com/product/item/3
    Fluoride is a toxin, and glycerin is no good either, I suggest you discontinue the use ASAP

    a bar of ivory soap (assuming it doesn't have the foaming agents) would be better by far
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    Viccolabs has not responded to my question regarding flouride in their paste, yet.

    Their offering of a "sugar free" toothpaste brings up a bunch of other questions, which i will ask as a follow-up.

    Let's see, if / when they decide to answer.

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    Quote Posted by Laurel (here)
    We use Kiss My Face. It's made with organic aloe vera gel, fluoride, sweetener and sodium lauryl sulfate free. It does have glycerin though. Tastes amazing, makes your teeth super clean and white. My daughter loves it.

    http://www.kissmyface.com/product/item/3
    Fluoride is a toxin, and glycerin is no good either, I suggest you discontinue the use ASAP

    a bar of ivory soap (assuming it doesn't have the foaming agents) would be better by far
    You misunderstood. It's fluoride free.

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    We use Kiss My Face. It's made with organic aloe vera gel, fluoride, sweetener and sodium lauryl sulfate free. It does have glycerin though. Tastes amazing, makes your teeth super clean and white. My daughter loves it.

    http://www.kissmyface.com/product/item/3
    Fluoride is a toxin, and glycerin is no good either, I suggest you discontinue the use ASAP

    a bar of ivory soap (assuming it doesn't have the foaming agents) would be better by far
    You misunderstood. It's fluoride free.
    ahh, well since all I have to go on is your typing, I suppose I did mis-understand..

    English is a terrible language, I see how you meant to say "it's made with XXX, & is fluoride free, sweetener free" etc..
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    Quote Posted by happyexpat (here)
    So a while ago, my friend told me you shouldn't actually use anything abrasive, so I quit the baking soda.

    I use Cal Ben bar soap. My teeth are whiter and it doesn't really taste that bad. A little soapy.

    Dr. Bronners is all great stuff in my book. We used the baby mild soap until I was introduced to Cal Ben. I really, really like it. Not that I can pinpoint exactly why.

    I'd like to buy the soap today, can please somebody tell me if I should buy liquid or soap bar?
    Thank you in advance.

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    First of all, GREAT POST DAWN!

    Secondly, I'm looking for a video to send a friend that talks about gum surgery (Specifically bridges) and how it's linked to body pain and joint problems due to bacterial infection. I saw this video once and can't seem to find it again. The idea is that when you have a bridge placed in your mouth the resultant bacteria can cause deeply imbedded issues with your entire body... ie, arthritis etc. I saw this video once, but can not seem to find it again. Any thoughts?
    Thanks,
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    OK, I just found this info: Weston A. Price: World's Greatest Dentist
    Most dentists would be doing an enormous service to public health if they
    familiarized themselves with the work of Dr. Weston Pricei. Unfortunately,
    his work continues to be discounted and suppressed by medical and dental
    professionals alike.
    Dr. Price was a dentist and researcher who traveled the world to study the
    teeth, bones, and diets of native populations living without the "benefit"
    of modern food. Around the year 1900, Price had been treating persistent
    root canal infections and became suspicious that root-canaled teeth always
    remained infected, in spite of treatments. Then one day, he recommended to
    a woman, wheelchair bound for six years, to have her root canal tooth
    extracted, even though it appeared to be fine.
    She agreed, so he extracted her tooth and then implanted it under the skin
    of a rabbit. The rabbit amazingly developed the same crippling arthritis as
    the woman and died from the infection 10 days later. But the woman, now
    free of the toxic tooth, immediately recovered from her arthritis and could
    now walk without even the assistance of a cane.
    Price discovered that it's mechanically impossible to sterilize a
    root-canaled (e.g. root-filled) tooth.
    He then went on to show that many chronic degenerative diseases originate
    from root-filled teeth—the most frequent being heart and circulatory
    diseases. He actually found 16 different causative bacterial agents for
    these conditions. But there were also strong correlations between
    root-filled teeth and diseases of the joints, brain and nervous system. Dr.
    Price went on to write two groundbreaking books in 1922 detailing his
    research into the link between dental pathology and chronic illness.
    Unfortunately, his work was deliberately buried for 70 years, until finally
    one endodontist named George Meinig recognized the importance of Price's
    work and sought to expose the truth.
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl..._DNL_art_1<http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/18/dangers...>
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    Yes I would like to know this too.........yesterday I bought Dr Bronners peppermint but it was liquid......VERY soapy taste......is this recommended or just the bar ?? many thanks ....




    Quote I'd like to buy the soap today, can please somebody tell me if I should buy liquid or soap bar?
    Thank you in advance.

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    I've been using MMS for about a year now. My last dental checkup confirmed no cavities, and the dental hygienist says: " I see you took my advice and are using the fluoride mouthwash and toothpaste?" I just chuckled...

    My gum line was so receded they would bleed when I brushed with toothpaste, but now my gums are healing and the readings a year ago had 7's in the back teeth, and now are 5's, and I smoke cigarettes and drink coffee.
    Gripereaper, do you use the MMS with water and what proportions?
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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    I've been using MMS for about a year now. My last dental checkup confirmed no cavities, and the dental hygienist says: " I see you took my advice and are using the fluoride mouthwash and toothpaste?" I just chuckled...

    My gum line was so receded they would bleed when I brushed with toothpaste, but now my gums are healing and the readings a year ago had 7's in the back teeth, and now are 5's, and I smoke cigarettes and drink coffee.
    Gripereaper, do you use the MMS with water and what proportions?
    Yes, I mix about 8 drops and add about four to six ounces of water to it and use my sonic toothbrush.

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    Vicco update:

    They responded today.
    One sentence answer:
    "We do not use Flouride in our toothpaste".

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    My dad is scheduled to have a tooth pulled on thursday, its extremely painful......he says its black in part, so would it be too late now for MMS ?? would that kill what ever has blackened the tooth??


    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    I've been using MMS for about a year now. My last dental checkup confirmed no cavities, and the dental hygienist says: " I see you took my advice and are using the fluoride mouthwash and toothpaste?" I just chuckled...

    My gum line was so receded they would bleed when I brushed with toothpaste, but now my gums are healing and the readings a year ago had 7's in the back teeth, and now are 5's, and I smoke cigarettes and drink coffee.
    Gripereaper, do you use the MMS with water and what proportions?
    Yes, I mix about 8 drops and add about four to six ounces of water to it and use my sonic toothbrush.

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    My dad is scheduled to have a tooth pulled on thursday, its extremely painful......he says its black in part, so would it be too late now for MMS ?? would that kill what ever has blackened the tooth??
    Very likely that it is too late with that much necrosis already present


    I'm picking up some liquid Tooth soap

    http://toothsoap.com/clean-your-teeth-with-tooth-soap/

    Flavored with ec. oils, I'm almost out of vicco!
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