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    Let make a short trip in a not so distant future and examine what will be impact of Free Energy in our life, and more specifically what technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy.

    Will just assume, for practical purposes that we have 3 devices available. One as small as a matches box for medium energy requirements (like powering a house), one as big as a shoe box that could power a small city and a another larger one with really big power output. In other words, we have energy for every need and in whatever amount is required.

    So I'll start with a short list from the top of my head, to which I will add later:

    - gas stations would disappear (probably to be replaced with storage areas from where you can pick up a FE device)

    - my hope is that soon enough teleportation would become possible, so cars would become obsolete

    - gold would loose its perceived value, because with enough energy you can transmute other elements into gold

    - the concept of "profit" would go away

    - the concept of "work" would also become obsolete. I seriously doubt people would sit around all day, but rather start doing what they've always wanted, now that profit is not an issue

    - I suspect the weapons industry would become obsolete or rather transformed to develop products you would need around the house (Fuller had a nice name that I can't recall for such products) or to work to clean the planet

    - recycling and waste are another two that will go away. Today's "waste" is only waste because it takes to much energy to convert it into something useful or to store it safely.

    I'll stop here now and let others chip in!

    Is there something you do now that would be made obsolete or totally transformed by Free Energy?

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    Default Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

    I have pondered the possibilities myself, how the world would be transformed through free energy technologies. First order of business IMO is to make it a crime against humanity and the planet to suppress any technology that is a beneficial improvement to all life of the planet. Thats something we can do now....
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    Hi jsb_swampfox,

    Share how you saw the world transformed. Lets leave the "how do we get there" for another discussion .

    Thinking a bit about your post, probably "the police" will be close to obsolete in a Free Energy society!!

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    The usage of free energy would definitely cut out fuel-emitted pollutions.
    Bangkok, Hong Kong, Mexico City, for example, would know what blue skies are, again.

    Also, FE would cut out the need to drill into Earth for oil and gasses-- no longer having to mess up ecosystems and lives along the way.
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    Law enforcement and prisons would be obsolete, if profit and scarcity were not artificial constructs.

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    Default Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Law enforcement and prisons would be obsolete, if profit and scarcity were not artificial constructs.
    Well said Rob. 99% of today's problems stem from people living in a state of shortage. The glorification of material and social acquisition seems to be equally destructive too.

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    Default Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

    I have worked in the construction business for to most of my life, i am thinking in the terms of heavy machinery.

    If we whant to skip the part of using machinery to reshaping the land for whatever reason of buildings we need to build in the future on land.
    The only way to this is "Anti Gravity", floating houses is the only way to go if you DONT whant to disturb nature. And reduce the making of more machinery and all what comes whid that.

    I sugesst all are cabel free, so there are no need for disturb the land, and water we can allready take from the air. About the plumbing, there allready realy good boxes there it filters through so it's almost clean.

    But we are still gonna need transports for many reasons, i sugesst anti gravity for NO more road buidings.


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    All right!

    Good ideas flowing!

    I just remembered that I forgot about the big guys: the power plants! Those will be gone... all of them along with any pollution they're causing and related to that the batteries industry will be obsolete. Why use batteries with limited charge, that have a limited life and die on you when you most need them! And there goes the chargers too!

    Speaking of law enforcement... I think lawyer will be out of work and go smell the flowers and green fields!

    <8>, construction business... that's interesting. I know nothing about it but I bet it required tons of energy. I don't think this industry will become obsolete, but it will surely transform.

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    Default Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

    With free energy, the whole concept of "you get out what you put in" goes right out of the window, and with it all concepts like working for a living, as you have said. If people no longer had to work, or had to work only very minimally, then people would have an abundance of free time in which to fulfil the purpose of their existence and nurture their spirituality.

    Of course, there is another, less appealing possibility. As they say, the devil makes work for idle hands. It is quite possible people could have so much free time they'd not know what to do with it, and like the breaking of the atom the bounty of free energy could be channelled into less productive means than Earth's own ivory tower. I suspect a very special few would look upon free energy as a still more impressive way of blowing people to smithereens.
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    I agree that our mode of transport is really odd in this time. I feel we would already be teleporting, with a belt around our waist and one button to switch on and then using the mind to get from A to B, N to S etc. if free energy were available for free use.

    Computers will be holographic, as will entertainment and games systems. Air and water will be clean. Water will be taken from the oceans for use on land.

    Data will be stored on one cell and be freely available to humanity, so no more necessity to discern (provided the stored data is true). Then the need for politics will end. There will be another fairer way to guide the world, agreed upon by all, but not forced, agreement stored in the available data so there will be no reneging.

    Everything could change for the better.

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    Hello Oliver,

    The "bad guys" already have FE and they did not blow us up. My hunch is that FE cannot be used that way and instead blew in their face. But is just a hunch...

    However, lets keep this vision of the future positive eh?

    Cool part about "you get out what you put in" not being applicable any longer!

    Hi Kathy,

    Teleportation is my dream! The transportation we are using now is so old!

    "Data will be stored on one cell and be freely available to humanity" that will also make patents obsolete, thank goodness!!
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    I think most people, when they are met with abundance, generally seem ecstatic in their need to share it with everybody. We see it when a person wins the lottery and gives it away to as many charities as they can think of. It's possible that free energy would turn us all into a giddy and zealous bunch of sharers all eager to show whatever life we encounter the blessings of our knowledge. We could exalt even the most basic of animals by lavishing upon them all the care and attention they could ever hope for and not just as reparations for a past when we took so much and with so little regard. We could look into the eyes of our newborn children knowing that they would never go without and that they need never suffer famine and destitution for the simple providence of birth and that they will grow up completely focused on the important things.

    The world would progress from the awful, predatory nature of the scarcity mindset in a world with insufficient resources to one in which an abundance mindset frees us up to express, as David Icke says, our infinite consciousness and infinite love. With complete abundance, «me vs you» becomes patently absurd while «me & you» is the only way to go.

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    Hopefully mankind will not have the same mindset, to avoid abuse of what will be available and to know how to avoid any pitfalls.

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    Default Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

    In a post transformed World of Free Energy...

    All human suffering will end...

    All mankinds illnesses will be cured...


    Human conflict will be obsolete...

    Accountants, Lawyers, Money People,

    will too, be obsolete

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    Default Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    All right!

    Good ideas flowing!

    I just remembered that I forgot about the big guys: the power plants! Those will be gone... all of them along with any pollution they're causing and related to that the batteries industry will be obsolete. Why use batteries with limited charge, that have a limited life and die on you when you most need them! And there goes the chargers too!

    Speaking of law enforcement... I think lawyer will be out of work and go smell the flowers and green fields!

    <8>, construction business... that's interesting. I know nothing about it but I bet it required tons of energy. I don't think this industry will become obsolete, but it will surely transform.
    Thanks...

    About heavy machinery, i think it mostly gonna be needed at farming the food for the human race. Allready to day they try to build the new houses inside at the factory and transport parts of it to the site and the put it together.

    For the machines we still need, mostly the heavy machinery are using hydraulic system, it's really just a pump who builds up pressure on the oil to puch for example an excavator arm or move the machine back or forth. It's easy to replace the diesel engine wid a free energi sorce who power the pump instead.

    Then we have all the machines on the golf courses, allready back in the 90ths i was introduced to all the same machines but they ran wid batteries. And remember many of them to use a hydraulic system to power whatever the sytem are.

    And once again free power source on them and we are good to go.. im not sure we want to play golf tho..
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    How about the concept of "ownership"..... would that go away?... I'd like to think so.

    We feel the need to own stuff because there is not enough for everyone! (an illusion I know!). So in the abundant Free Energy society we will not need to own anything (or anybody).

    PS: And with ownership gone the "lock and key" industry becomes obsolete
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    Hello <8>,

    I imagine that the "heavy machinery" business will shift a lot to building space craft and "colony pods"... possibly "terra-forming" if we find a way to get approval from the land. But one instant improvement with Free Energy would be as you say replacing the fossil fuel, resulting in "zero pollution".

    Not sure if it works, but I'd like to imagine that the oil and the water could be replaced with magnetic fields. They seem much more clean and easy to come by if you have abundant energy.

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    Default Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

    I think ownership would go away, but I think what most people imagine as a concept of 'ownershipless' is slightly different. I imagine most people think of a society without ownership as being:

    1) I currently have this item.
    2) Somebody wants this item that I have, so I hand it to them.
    3) I no longer have this item, but this somebody now has it.

    I think in a society without ownership, people would still have things but they would share them freely simply because nobody would have a grasping, greedy personality. People grasp onto things because they think that if they loosen their grip, they will be gone and spirited away by other people. In a society without ownership, I think people would still 'be surrounded by things that are associated with them', but they would not demarcate these things as owned by them because they would not feel the need to defend their access to them.

    To summarise my round-the-houses post, I would say that greed is a result of fear that one will not have access to things one needs. With complete abundance, one would not fear a lack of access to resources and so would be quite happy to share whatever one has. "It doesn't matter, I'll get another one". It is, I guess, essentially the good side of the old phrase "easy come, easy go".
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    Default Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

    We would probably need some form of ID, to use what will be available to us, so that, say, when we access our computer holograms, we can continue where we left off. There would have to be some form of connection, either through the teleportation belt or the mind or something similar.

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    Hey Oliver,

    That is exactly what I've meant by making ownership obsolete. There will still be things around us that we will use but there will be no point in saying something "is mine". My dream is that replicators will be available... so as soon as you need something you can replicate it, when you're done and no one else needs it, you may return it back to being energy...

    And with that, "accounting" will become an obsolete concept. And while at it Wall Street and everything about it will be a thing of the past... (investors, bankers, bank accounts, accountants, financial advisers etc... gone!)

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