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    Like dragons, creatures like the Yeti are in stories and history throughout mankind. Could people fake being an animal? Of course, some even camouflage being real people! Unless a person has a real experience, how can one judge if something exists or not? Just don't get drunk and dress up as a mythical creature, probably not the best idea...

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    if one has read the research/books by David Paulides ("Missing 411") and followed the research of genetecist Dr. Melba Kethchum the concept of Big Foot/Sasquatsch/Yeti may not be as far-fetched as we've been lead to believe- the world out there is not what we've been told (I think we'll all agree to that otherwise we would't be on this forum)-

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    Quote Posted by Atlas (here)

    Eric Shipton...
    Was a very highly respected British mountaineer.



    The tracks he saw were these...



    And the most famous photograph, widely reported in British newspapers, was this one:

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    If there was only more than the one footprint shot. I expect that there is. More than one shot is required to dispel attacks that try to disassemble the story into chaos with a strong attack/analysis on the one (closeup) footprint seen.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    If there was only more than the one footprint shot. I expect that there is.
    Yes, my understanding is that that one (taken with the ice axe) is the clearest, that appeared in all the British papers.

    There's another one of the same footprint, here — no ice axe this time:



    Shipton said that the tracks appeared to be several days old, and most of them had melted to some degree in the sun, despite the freezing surface temperature. The one that was published I think was simply the most distinct, showing the shape of the toes really very well.

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    This recent ish video from Russia shows a similar gait to the Shipton tracks.



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    Quote Posted by 21g (here)
    This recent ish video from Russia shows a similar gait to the Shipton tracks.




    Wow... well worth watching this fascinating short video. Three Russian kids following these huge tracks in the snow, filmed in real time, Blair-Witch-Project style. They're talking to each other throughout, encounter a creature in the middle distance, pause for a few moments, and then run.

    The large tracks look to me like they might be a composite overlay of smaller footprints of two creatures, one following in the steps of the other. It'd sure be interesting for a native Russian speaker to listen to the dialog and pick up whether this is a prank (which it theoretically could be) — or whether it was all very much for real. A Russian speaker could tell.

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    Their was a documentary ( BBC , i think ) where a well known Russian boxer speaks with the children
    in this video and their families. Cant remember the context of how this occurred, unfortunately.

    From memory, their were no obvious red flags. I chalked it down as a definately maybe

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    Here's what the original uploader of the video (KuzYeti.ru) says:

    Quote Discovery Channel is going to the end of the year aired a series of programs about the mysterious and unknown of the 14 series, two of which will be devoted to Russian phenomenon - Dyatlov Pass and Kuzbass Bigfoot. (Source: Journalists Discovery Channel came to Kuzbass, to unravel the mystery of the Yeti)
    Below is a google translation of the original article by KuzYeti.ru:

    Children removed the Yeti on a mobile phone
    Students from Kuzbass Russian village-Urschi filmed on a mobile phone huge footprints in the snow, and a creature that left them. According to experts of the international center hominology guys we saw Bigfoot. The video was the first video evidence of existence of the Yeti, shot in Russia.

    Schoolboy Yevgeny Anisimov with his friends, teenagers 10-12 years old, noticed the snow huge fresh tracks. The guys decided to see who has left such an unusual prints and went on the trail. Eugene Turn the camera on a cell phone and filmed everything. Chain prints led school to the ravine, which was among the trees, they saw a large hairy creature with long arms, which is to find the surveillance, turned and darted into a windbreak. This is clearly seen in the video. There was a meeting of the village near the Russian-Urschi Leninsk-Kuznetsk area at the end of January 2013.

    The father of one of the witnesses sent a sensational video hominology center. According to the center's director, Igor Burtsev, many years has been studying the phenomenon of Bigfoot, the center's specialists have carefully studied the video and concluded that it is not a fake.

    "When watching a video by our experts no doubt that the shot was just" Bigfoot ", it could be seen and elongated, initially dangle hands later when running to get almost to the ground, and his posture and response and movements - everything speaks for the fact that the actual shooting! "- said Burtsev.

    According to the scientist, this video will put an end to the discussion of whether there is in fact in the Kuzbass Bigfoot or not.

    "Despite the insinuations opponents, including foreign ones (for example, the recent unsubstantiated statement of the London newspaper The Sun), the existence in the Kemerovo region of the mysterious inhabitants -" snow people ", or the Yeti - confirmed by a growing number of clear evidence, in particular - the first in the history of Russia is quite clear video filming of one of these creatures. "

    The first reports of a meeting with Bigfoot appeared in Kuzbass in 2005. In the area of ​​the Spassky Meadows local resident saw a large hairy creature. Then, in the same place repeatedly found confirmation of hominid life: twisted branches, footprints and broken branches. Most often, Bigfoot and the traces of their stay are in Mountain Shoria. In 2012 I managed to make photos yeti young zoologist Oksana Zhukov, who saw from afar a humanoid creature in the snow in the area of ​​Yurga.

    Source: http://kuzyeti.ru/1211
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    Quote Posted by 21g (here)
    [...] no obvious red flags.
    An orange flag though! 2 years before this video appeared, there was a "bigfoot" home-made video competition in the same region as reported at the time by KuzYeti.ru (google translated):

    In the Kemerovo region declared a competition for the best movie about Bigfoot

    While scientists are looking for documentary evidence of the existence of Bigfoot, creative people are calling display his vision of his life.

    At the regional competition of amateur videos taken individual and group works of authorship. Basic requirements: each work should bear a positive mood. You can shoot with a digital video camera, camera or even a mobile phone. Time format - no more than five minutes.

    The founders and organizers of the contest - the Department of Culture and National Policy of Kemerovo region and "Kuzbasskino." Acceptance of entries begins today. For information call (384-2) 57-22-76.

    Source: http://kuzyeti.ru/760
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    It looks like a traffic stopped impaired driver test's trace in a single line.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UaidTfvgRQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG3bZpeJ9l8

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    This thread is awesome, bookmarked, thanks Atlas.
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    Peter Byrne with the famous Yeti scalp, at Pangboche Temple in the Sola Khumbu district of the Himalaya in 1958:


    http://www.petercbyrne.com/greatsearches.html

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    Terrific posts, Atlas.

    Thank you !

    Orange flag indeed,yet seems to stand up to scrutiny.

    The Peter Byrne image has the classic conical shape associated with bigfoot.
    Lovely find.

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    Yeti or Not ?

    Dr. Mark Evans, a veterinarian and explorer, is on a mission to sift fact from folklore and distill the plausible from the possible as he searches for a rational explanation for the mysterious Himalayan biped known as the Yeti.



    Watch the full documentary here: https://123movies.is/film/yeti-or-not-13097

    Duration: 90 min - Release: 2016

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    Articles or reports about the Yeti aren't nearly as common as those about Sasquatch or Bigfoot, but there's good reason to assume they're very closely related.

    Here's one just published today by ExporersWeb:
    Newcomer’s Guide to the Yeti



    The Yeti, it seems, has shown its elusive head, or rather foot, once again.

    Today, Mingma G, a respected Sherpa climber and guide, shared two photos of an alleged Yeti print. Tulku Ngawang Lapsum of Beding village in the Rolwaling Valley took the photos “in the vicinity of the holy cave of Urgen Drukang in Na village,” reported Mingma G.

    As European mountaineers Eric Shipton and Reinhold Messner did in the past, Mingma G does not actually express his own views on the Abominable Snowman. He just says that people in the Rolwaling Valley where he lives believe in the creature, “and our elderly generations have seen it.”

    “These footprints are around two feet apart,” Mingma G said, citing witnesses. “They are quite distinct from those of humans and other animals such as bears. As locals, we believe they must be those of a Yeti.”


    Alleged Yeti prints from Rolwaling last Saturday. Photo: Tulku Ngawang Lapsum, shared on Facebook by Mingma G.


    Mingma G then recalled the most famous early report of the Yeti in Rolwaling. In 1951, Eric Shipton and his party were crossing the Melung La, the pass above Beding village, when he saw similar prints.

    70 years of Yeti and men

    At the time, Shipton’s prestige as an explorer placed him above an easily fooled dupe or a person prone to believe in local superstitions. The print was a U.S. size 9.5 — hardly a Bigfoot. At the same time, the print was nearly twice as broad as a typical human footprint, according to Shipton’s partner Michael Ward. The big toe also seemed more thumb-like, like a primate’s.

    “We noticed that whenever a narrow six-inch-wide crevasse was crossed, there seemed to be claw marks in the snow at the end of the toe,” Ward wrote.


    How it all began: The famous image, shot by Eric Shipton in 1951, with an ice axe head for comparison.


    Shipton’s photos became instantly famous. Audiences enthusiastically welcomed this Himalayan representative of similar elusive creatures around the world — Bigfoot or the Sasquatch in the U.S., Kunk in the Andes, Yowie in Australia, and Chuchuna in Siberia. Even in the thick beech forests of Spain’s Basque Country, the Basajaun lurks as “the guardian of the forest”.

    In 1958, Belgian cartoonist Herge included a Yeti in a comic book about his famous character Tintin in Tibet. Even before that, the Americans had King Kong from the 1930s film in their minds, though of course, he was of a different order of magnitude. But gradually, the Yeti, or Abominable Snowman, became part of the Himalaya’s imaginarium.


    The final scene of the Tintin in Tibet comic book.

    A six-month search

    In 1954, a few years after Shipton’s discovery, oilman Tom Slick became obsessed with the Yeti after reading an article in the Daily Mail. Slick launched several search expeditions, including one that lasted six months. It had 500 porters and bloodhounds to sniff out the mysterious creature.

    Even after the turn of the millennium, interest in the Yeti has not entirely waned. In 2008, Yoshiteru Takashi led the Nippon Yeti project to the region around Dhaulagiri IV. They even obtained some photos of 45cm-long prints but failed to film any actual Yeti. Nevertheless, they returned convinced that the creature is real. “The footprints and the stories the locals tell make us sure that it is not imaginary,” Takashi said.


    The (slimmer) Yeti print from the 2008 Japanese expedition.


    Climbers roaming the Himalaya of course enjoy listening to local stories and photographing the Yeti relics kept at several monasteries in the Khumbu — even though contemporary DNA tests have shown these relics belong to less legendary creatures.

    As for bumping into a Yeti, no Westerner has had any luck, with one remarkable exception. In 1986, while exploring the head of Mekong River in Tibet, a Tyrolean climber saw a standing, ape-like animal at sunset.

    “The creature towered menacingly, its face a gray shadow, its body a black outline,” the climber recalled. “Covered with hair, it stood upright on two short legs and had powerful arms.” He took no pictures, and the silhouette was not completely clear with the setting sun blindingly behind it.

    Enter Reinhold Messner

    The stunned climber was none other than world-famous climber Reinhold Messner. Afterward, Messner researched the matter thoroughly and gathered enough info for a book entitled, My Quest for Yeti: Confronting the Himalayas’ Deepest Mystery.

    Messner suggested that the creature might have been a Tibetan bear, which lives mostly alone and whose fur may vary in color. “However, for the Tibetan people, the Yeti is real and significant, as symbols and totems are,” Messner told this writer years ago, at the book’s launch in 2000.

    Daniel C. Taylor reached a similar conclusion in his 2017 book, Yeti: The Ecology of a Mystery. Taylor was interviewed about his obsession with the Yeti in National Geographic, in which he attributes the prints to an Asian black bear.

    The physical Yeti vs the symbolic Yeti

    The physical Yeti may be a bear, but there is a second, symbolic Yeti in which humans muse about their relationship with the wilderness and the unseen.

    Descriptions of the Yeti vary but mainly peg the creature as a five-foot-tall ape/humanoid creature that walks on two legs and emits a high-pitched sound.

    However, with all these enthusiastic searches, and no conclusive evidence, the odds of the physical Yeti turning up are lengthening. Someone once wrote, half tongue-in-cheek, about one of the Yeti’s cousins in America’s Pacific Northwest: “The main problem associated with the phenomenon of the Sasquatch is proof of its physical existence.”

    Anthropologists doubt that an ape (all of which are basically vegetarians) could survive in an environment so hostile to plant growth. The rare sightings have always centred around a single individual, never family groups.

    And no one has happened to spot a Yeti while having a camera at hand. As myth debunker, John Russell Napier wrote back in 1972, “The sort of situation where human or mechanical faults, unaccountably, come between the photographer and world renown is another of those clichés so characteristic of life in the Goblin Universe. How many UFOs or Loch Ness Monsters would now be immortalized if the camera hadn’t been left in the car?”

    In the age of drones and smartphones, the Yeti will have to be even more careful to keep its secret hidden and its legend alive.
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