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    I find it interesting that a guy who allegedly worked at Los Alamos and Area 51/S4 and was fired when he exposed UFO/ET secrets and then made to look a buffoon when his employment and educational credentials couldn't be verified goes silent and then ends up with his own scientific supply company with military contracts and as a consultant to Raytheon weapons systems. But then we all know the government would never offer those kinds of perks to a crazy nut job in return for their silence. Right?
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    Bob Lazar was one of the first of those conspiracy theorist' people i came across over 10 years ago that really freaked me out. it challenged my reality but it left me with a partially opened mind. i had always believed that life beyond Earth was visiting here but his claims seemed to resonate with me although a part of me objected. as far as his claims of degrees from the California Institute of Technology and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the subsequent denial from each institution, i think we all know how easily this information can be expunged by the dark forces.
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    I think the only reason Bob is still alive is, the public would say aaahh ha, he must have been telling the truth and they killed him for it ... NOW we have to look into it deeper ...his friend John Lear says he hasn't seen bob in awhile, he thinks he went back to work on the inside ... when asked , Bob said if he had it to do all over again , he would have remained silent, it was not worth the hell they put him through ... Bob always struck me as telling the truth as he knew it ...
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    Hang on you say he is a science and technoligy consultant for Raytheon weapons systems?? how is that possible when according to the government he was only an average student and his credentials from university are a sham?? that can only mean one thing the government lied through there teeth when they said he never worked for them and his credentials are phony.

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    Michael schratt mentions Bob Lazaar a few times in this presentation from 2011 as
    a cross reference confirmation to Dan Burisch descriptions of area 51....Both are
    controversial characters as are many people disclosing information, whether
    dis info , delusional or genuine we can only add there information to the bigger
    picture and view it as part of that imo. John Lear, George Knapp, Linda Moulton
    Howe, Gene Huff and others vouch for Lazaar. Others like Stanton Freeman are
    more negative, and need solid proof.




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    Escape From Area 51 J-Rod Incredible Testimony from Michael Schratt, military
    aerospace historian,In this Open Minds Production, Michael Schratt provides
    specifics regarding Dr Dan Burisch's alleged interaction with an extraterrestrial
    known as "J-Rod". Openmindstv click link! https://youtube.com/user/openmindstv

    This historically significant account of human/ET contact allegedly took place at the
    super-secret S4 facility located 12 miles south of Area 51. Also included are details
    drawings of the flight simulator on level B, along with a very accurate schematic
    layout of the cafeteria, file department, communications and transportation logistics
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    Bob has a great five set VHS tape of him explaining all the science with the equations on the chalkboard , telling anyone to take it to their local high school teacher and he can verify that what bob says it real science ... how the gravity amplifiers work , the space time distortion , thought driven controls , etc ... I loaned my set out to a co-worker and never got it back ... if you get the chance , it is worth it ...
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    The crash did happen , the place is real ... the crew of the craft were not humans they were androids built by humans from the reticulum system ... four died and one lived ... we got five major inventions from android ship at the roswell crash , area 51 is the research place of the roswell ship/technology ...
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    Thank you for sharing the video. He seems even more authentic 25 years later. An unsung hero when you consider how little information we have.

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    EXCELLENT. Thank you for this.... no doubt whatsoever that whatever happened, the story as recounted was absolutely real for Lazar.

    Personally? I believe it.

    (Also supported by having talked with John Lear in depth and in person. Lazar himself always refused to be interviewed. If Camelot had been able to talk with him, that might well have been our all-time star interview.)

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    EXCELLENT. Thank you for this.... no doubt whatsoever that whatever happened, the story as recounted was absolutely real for Lazar.

    Personally? I believe it.

    (Also supported by having talked with John Lear in depth and in person. Lazar himself always refused to be interviewed. If Camelot had been able to talk with him, that might well have been our all-time star interview.)
    Given the fact that he has spoke out now (even if money was used by the TV company to do so) and has went to the trouble of making models of what he actually saw at S4 maybe the time is right to ask him again for that all-time interview.

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    I have to say his description of his entering the S4 facility is interesting, there are some clips on you tube which appear to show a road going towards a facility near Area 51. I have also heard of other cases of classified facilities including an incident mentioned in Leonard Springfield's Status Reports when a military jeep appeared out of no where, and the witnessed saw a whole hill just open up and a tunnel going down into it.

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    Yes, to my intuition, judgement and mundane logic I believe the man-there is just no genuine advantage for him to construct the story.
    Maybe a slight flush of cash in the early days, I dunno-but it would be a pain the ass if you think about it-being hounded and singled out-his demeanor
    is authentic in my book.

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    I always believed Bob but it just goes to show how far the authorities will go to discredit someone i mean he went through some tough times !!!

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    Default Re: The Bob Lazar story

    the newscaster gets me. she wears that im trying not to laugh delivery so successfully engineered with brainwashing over the years to disarm this topic . i cant stand that look.
    you wouldn't get that while discussing the kennedy assassination or any other controversial topic. only with UFO,s do you get that.
    i have always believed Bob Lazars story. thanks for posting!

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    Bob Lazar given credence by John Lear , Gene Huff and others and dismissed
    by the likes Stanton Freidman. George Knapp got involved back in 1989 and he has
    been involved with this ever since. This presentation from Copenhagen Oct 2014.

    We have all probably heard part of the story especially from John Lear and Stanton
    Friedman coming from opposite ends of the discussion. George goes thru his
    experience and shows clips , quotes and various references and how Area 51 is now
    part of 'popular 'culture and can be dismissed as sky-fy or crack pot ufologist
    speculation. But it can also seen as a great cover story for genuine covert military
    surveillance craft like the U2 etc , or even more exotic government secret
    programmes , possibly back engineering ET craft and developing their own.
    Definitely worth a watch if you are curious about Bob Lazar , whether
    you have dismissed his statements or not.

    George tells how he became involved and also tells how Bobs account has been
    corroborated or paralleled by other witness's he has interviewed over the years.



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    George in the above presentation plays some clips from this
    full interview, George did with Bob Lazar as part of the 25th
    anniversary of Bobs and Georges involvement in this case.


    Bob Lazar of Area 51 - 25 Years Later


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    Default Re: The Bob Lazar story

    Lazar is very interesting case, at first when I heard about this story I thought Wow! Back in 1989, Lazar contacted a Las Vegas television station and claimed that he had been working as a physicist on the governement most highly classified project which involves back engineering Alien technology. I know it is easy these days to not believe anything Lazar said because of certain other things Lazar has claimed that were not true about his education and such. However, the fact remains that he took both John Lear and George Knapp out to Area 51 and strange things began flying around just like he said they would and when he said they would. So somehow he knew something. Also, I have a great deal of respect for George Knapp.

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    I had the Lazar tapes back in the late 80's early 90's , the great thing was , he drew the equations of how things worked and suggested we go to any local high school science teacher and verify the results ... the ship worked on a basic principle , three gravity amplifiers each on hangers , swing one the left the ship goes left , the one in the middle stays straight keeping the ship up and still ...swing the two outside ones in the same direction and the ship rolled on that side and bolted away ... all powered by a small device no bigger than a small microwave ...
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