How to Stop the Gulf Oil "Spill"

[JoshERTW]

Time to start writing some protest songs. Wheres Tom Morello when you need him?

Edit: or Bob Dylan for the older generation

[noxon medem]

Posted by JoshERTW (here)
Time to start writing some protest songs. Wheres Tom Morello when you need him?

Edit: or Bob Dylan for the older generation

- The people, here represented by the older generation, are allready on the case !

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QE9Wjgc_Teg

Great !
The Raging Grannies. ( and isn´t that Bob Dylan there in the background, in drag ? :-)

[Thinker]

Bill,

My request: Please elaborate on what makes your covert source of information reliable.
My question: How do you know you are not being played by BP and others?

Given that; during the Cold War East vs. West; the CIA, KGB, and others used covert messages to provide disinformation to the other side.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Thinker (here)
Bill,

My request: Please elaborate on what makes your covert source of information reliable.
My question: How do you know you are not being played by BP and others?

Given that; during the Cold War East vs. West; the CIA, KGB, and others used covert messages to provide disinformation to the other side.

..... Which covert source of information?

(If you mean 'SHR', then do check him out for yourself. It's in the public domain, and I don't know him personally. I assume you've listened to his audio and read the PDF.)

There are a number of other sources, too, that support this scenario (that the well casing is ruptured below the seabed in an inaccessible place): as far as I can see, all the engineering evidence suggests this. Go visit The Oil Drum, and Alexander Higgins' Blog, and read for a few hours.

My personal take on the most likely scenario I've posted on various threads already, and on the Avalon website.

I've also clearly stated that now the incident has occurred (whether it was exacerbated or not) the opportunity will be played for all its worth by the controllers. As far as I can tell the concerns about volcanos, sea bed collapse, tsunamis and giant earthquakes are over-stated.

But I'm sure there's a serious toxicity problem which is getting worse by the day and this might be used for any number of different agendas (from actually killing people, to enraging and radicalizing a large part of the local population, to forcing the evacuation of millions).

I don't think the Deepwater Horizon was destroyed by a space-based weapon. I don't think this is about Atlantis rising. I do think that the relief wells might stop the flow. And I do think the game has changed somewhat since the DWH sank. And I don't think it's the end of the world. But I do think it's a very serious situation.

Best wishes, Bill

[Thinker]

Thank you Bill

[jimmer]

I saw a report yesterday talking about, 'is it time to blow the well up?'
to some that means explosives and lots of rock and other junk.
to others, nukes.
one things for sure, if august comes around and the relief wells don't work,
with all the wasted time, wasted coastlines and wasted lifestyles,
someone's going to get their fannies whacked hard (BP, BO).

[jimmer]

is it time?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html?ITO=1490

[MorningSong]

If the relief wells don't work, they may let if just flow 'til it runs out of "oil".... which may take the next 4 years to do.

July 2, 2010
Are Deepwater Relief Wells a Guaranteed Fix?
Oil Experts Say the Ultimate Solution is Relief Wells, but There Are No Guarantees it Will Stop Oil from Gushing into Gulf

(CBS) Kill the well - that's the ultimate goal.

"There's no doubt that the ultimate solution is a relief well," BP CEO Tony Hayward said.

Since 1969, oil companies have drilled seven deepwater relief wells in the Gulf of Mexico - all but one of them successful - although BP's current drilling would be the deepest ever.

"They're not reinventing the wheel, if you will," said retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen. "It's something they've done before."

BP's challenge? Make it work, without making it worse. Around the clock, the two relief wells sink lower, reports CBS News correspondent Mark Strassmann. Both run parallel to the gushing well. One is two weeks ahead of the other, now 17,000 feet below the Gulf's surface. Nine hundred feet lower, electromagnetic sensors will find the best spot for a diagonal cut into the broken well bore, the most precise step of all. Then four pumps will push in heavy mud, to overcome the broken well's ferocious upward pressure. And finally, cement, to plug it permanently.

"It's not a solid dunk," said Eric Smith, a deepwater drilling expert. "It's going to take some work."

Smith said two things could go wrong. The cut could miss the broken wellbore, and BP would just try again, or engineers could drill into hidden gas pockets.

"When you are drilling into that you have to be careful of a kick, a blowout in the relief well," Smith said.

BP leaders have showed supreme confidence in their relief wells.

"I fully expect that the well itself will be shut off in August," said Bob Dudley, BP's point man on the spill.

But recently? More caution.

"The drilling of relief wells, there's nothing guaranteed," Dudley said.

And if this fix fails?

One reported option is sub-sea pipes, to pump contained oil to a platform several miles away.

"I'm actually pretty confident they'll get it on the first pass," Smith said.

In Destin, Fla., Ryan Olin says it has to work. The bed and breakfast he manages has already lost $200,000.

"When you lose trust in everything they say and they keep coming up with different things that fail, but we're really hoping it works," said Olin, who manages Henderson Park Inn.

The absolute worst-case scenario: the well gushes until it runs dry, which could be as long as four years. But most oil experts agree that relief wells are the answer.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6642113.shtml

Yeah...

[jimmer]

I've read about the 'just let it run out' option.
politically, it's a real death knell for obama, come 2012.
as the devastation builds and spreads globally, inaction will not be tolerated.
this whole things is pandora's box X 10.
if we don't have teams of geologists and scientists furiously working to solve this,
then our leadership is foisting a new dark age upon us all.
leadership needs to be held accountable. no wiggle room.

[jimmer]

I don't want to be doomsayer, but take a look at this video.
notice how the oil spill isn't in the news...

https://youtube.com/propheticseer#p/u/3/ZYU24knbbIY

[Thinker]

I have been informed that the oil in the gulf has been stopped with a top-kill.

I have also discovered that Bill Ryan can be a bigger pinhead than most because of the listening he is afforded by his followers. Trusting a back channel source is no more reliable than a mainstream source as I pointed out in my posts.

When the NWO is up to their tricks, jump on them like your hair is on fire, and don’t let up until they stop their foolishness.

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