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    'There was a clear sense that everything that I had been doing from the time I was a child was preparing me for something that is imminent, that the time for learning and preparation is over, it is now time to take action. What confuses me about this is what action is required! I dont have a clue, although my instincts tell me to be patient and wait. I do not know if this makes any sense to anyone else, or if any of you have had a similar experience. I am still waiting patiently as to where to go from here.'
    I have walked a similar path to yours, Lightseeker. Now that the family is out of the nest and I have some time to devote to my spiritual journey, several synchronistic events have helped me to become more and more aware of strengths and energy that I have to share... or to use in some important way. The way is not totally clear to me yet.

    The light of understanding seems to get brighter as I continue to meditate and focus on those things that will help to move me along my pathway. So, yes, I am, like you, waiting for whatever happens next on this remarkable journey. Much love and light to you as you continue on yours.

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    Therefore, be at peace with God

    This is crucial.
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote Posted by celine (here)
    Love..

    A four letter word

    A trigger, sending waves flowing through you.

    Love..

    An intent, a cause for reaction

    A motivator that drives desires and passions in Human beings.

    Love..

    A state of being, energizing our souls

    A being, searching the cosmos for home.

    Love,

    You, me, us, them

    Here, Now, forever


    Home...

    love,
    celine
    That is a beautiful synthesis of what has been said in this thread about love.

    Thankyou.

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    -- Let the truth be known by all, let the truth be known by all, let the truth be known by all --

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    Recently I have noticed a MAJOR change in the energy around me everywhere. This was one of those WOW moments. I could pinpoint the exact time and date that this happened, the energy field was very strong and came with a clear message which I heard loud and clear inside me. NOW IS THE TIME FOR DOING. There was a clear sense that everything that I had been doing from the time I was a child was preparing me for something that is imminent, that the time for learning and preparation is over, it is now time to take action. What confuses me about this is what action is required!
    you know best yourself

    perhaps it is time for a slight shift of focus - from meditation til righteous action

    put the hands to good work - for the heart is connected - and the head knows the difference

    hands that help are sweeter than lips that pray

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    Why some spirits chose to hate? Is it so hard to express love towards your brother?
    sense of separateness - it's either me or you - my way or the highway - me myself and I

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    sense of separateness - it's either me or you - my way or the highway - me myself and I
    Its back to transcending ego my friend.
    The most important relationship we can have is the one with That which created us.
    Things in this material world come and go, store up treasure in Heaven.
    The Kingdom of Heaven is within.
    Love your Self.
    The one constant is God, which is life itself.
    Endeavor to put "Credit in the spiritual bank"
    ( See I remembered your advice Uffe, my silent but always with me friend)
    You never know when you might need to make a withdrawal.
    The credit comes from selfless service, dedicating the fruit of ones action to God. (no karma then)
    Love all serve all.
    Sometimes discernment means tough love needs to be applied.
    There is a difference between loving unconditionally and giving unconditionally.
    Different circumstances, different context, require different action, which will be right action.
    There are time when "no" is the correct response.
    Whenever you see the necessity to say no, say it like you mean it.
    That includes saying no to one self. Smiling broadly.
    reaching for the Golden Virginia.
    Well I am human lol
    c
    Last edited by greybeard; 13th July 2010 at 03:56.
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Its back to transcending ego my friend.
    The most important relationship we can have is the one with That which created us.
    morning early birdie


    it's hard to believe that all are connected - we don't learn that at school

    so we go through life feeling alone and separate


    til one somehow finds this truth in themselves - that all are connected

    and that every lost soul is held high in the Heart of God
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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    morning early birdie


    it's hard to believe that all are connected - we don't learn that at school

    so we go through life feeling alone and separate


    til one somehow finds this truth in themselves - that all are connected

    and that every lost soul is held high in the Heart of God

    All are connected and we all feel that deeply subconsciously. Evil spirits are often insinuating "take this" grab that" do this do that..... But they never offer anything real. All their offerings lead to dust. On the other hand God wishes us to learn ,grow and be as him.

    I think good choice is pretty obvious ...
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Its possible to come into this world, and while still needing God, being aware somehow of that Love with out naming it anything, there is no need of the bible, commandments, or any rules.
    Acts of cruelty is alien to one and there is little chance of bonding with a peer group from the onset because their actions are completely foreign to one.
    Compassion wells up inside to such things, as a tree being cut down.
    It is known that everything is alive and has consciousness.
    Unfortunately there can be a period, where in an effort to fit into society, born of loneliness, there is an attempt to fit into others standards.
    Ergo when consciousness rises to a certain point one comes back to where one was as an innocent child.
    Jesus said be as little children.
    What I am trying to say is that when we evolve enough in consciousness there is no need of rules, as anything other that right action is unthinkable.
    The love of God just guides us.
    I believe we are heading for that now.
    Enlightenment and Christ consciousness is much the same state of being.
    Raising of consciousness is crucial now
    Chris
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Its possible to come into this world, and while still needing God, being aware somehow of that Love with out naming it anything, there is no need of the bible, commandments, or any rules.
    Acts of cruelty is alien to one and there is little chance of bonding with a peer group from the onset because their actions are completely foreign to one.
    Compassion wells up inside to such things, as a tree being cut down.
    It is known that everything is alive and has consciousness.
    Unfortunately there can be a period, where in an effort to fit into society, born of loneliness, there is an attempt to fit into others standards.
    Ergo when consciousness rises to a certain point one comes back to where one was as an innocent child.
    Jesus said be as little children.
    What I am trying to say is that when we evolve enough in consciousness there is no need of rules, as anything other that right action is unthinkable.
    The love of God just guides us.
    I believe we are heading for that now.
    Enlightenment and Christ consciousness is much the same state of being.
    Raising of consciousness is crucial now
    Chris
    Christ said that all points up to these two things; Love God with all your heart, soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself.
    Everything clings to these two.
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    Christ said that all points up to these two things; Love God with all your heart, soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself.
    Everything clings to these two.
    Absolutely! These two commandments are the most important, imo.

    Love,

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    Absolutely! These two commandments are the most important, imo.

    Love,

    Kriya

    Yes! :-)

    This is the heart of the matter.
    You can not live and prosper in any dimension and in anything in any reality without these two.
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    Yes! :-)

    This is the heart of the matter.
    You can not live and prosper in any dimension and in anything in any reality without these two.
    Playing the devils advocate
    If you need these two comandments you wont live in love ant respect of God and all others.
    The commandments are only necessary because we need them here in this lunatic asylum at present.
    It only a madhouse because of fallen consciouses,
    When we in humility and love have enough humility to surrender fully to God that we will have heaven on earth.
    c
    PS God having no needs wants or desires and just pure love would have no need to command us to do anything.
    The people of Moses day perhaps needed to be told that these were commandments with a fear element inherent in them. ie do as I say or go to hell.
    More modern language would be, these are suggestions from loving Father, that are for your own good and yes there are consequences that are non to healthy if you dont follow them.
    All that being said.
    The first two commandments and as affirmed by Jesus are all important for our spiritual evolution and the creation of Heaven on earth.

    chris
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Playing the devils advocate
    If you need these two comandments you wont live in love ant respect of God and all others.
    The commandments are only necessary because we need them here in this lunatic asylum at present.
    It only a madhouse because of fallen consciouses,
    When we in humility and love have enough humility to surrender fully to God that we will have heaven on earth.
    c
    PS God having no needs wants or desires and just pure love would have no need to command us to do anything.
    The people of Moses day perhaps needed to be told that these were commandments with a fear element inherent in them. ie do as I say or go to hell.
    More modern language would be, these are suggestions from loving Father, that are for your own good and yes there are consequences that are non to healthy if you dont follow them.
    All that being said.
    The first two commandments and as affirmed by Jesus are all important for our spiritual evolution and the creation of Heaven on earth.

    chris

    You do not need to play devil's advocate Chris :-)...

    Core of the message stays the same though fabric changes through time.
    Many of the things written in Bible were highly unexplainable to people in past times and no matter how we are thinking today ,still a lot of things are not explainable to us today.

    For example how would you (if you know how to) explain to modern scientists how you made bread and fish out of thin air ???
    Or wine from water?
    Or healing the sick ?
    Or raising dead??

    How would you explain that when they do not understand a bit of what you are doing?

    That's why we were said that we should have faith now and tomorrow we will know all.
    It's a matter of trust to God.
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    That's why we were said that we should have faith now and tomorrow we will know all.
    It's a matter of trust to God.
    And that faith and trust is exactly being exploited by all. By religions ,by governments, by schools, by everyone. Sometimes I am amazed of the size of the agreed conspiracy against humanity...
    One terribly big maze of evil against sons and daughters of God...
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Dealing with this type of things is difficult. Mere try to explain all surrounding fact is almost impossible task for many. However that does not change the fact that a war rages on. A war that is very often unseen . It`s a war for souls.
    Tons of evidence of entities whom reside in another reality or dimension than ours are forcing us to at least think of what is going on in our lives.
    Thoughts, actions and other things are effected by spiritual world more than we are aware of.
    Heard of a phrase that fish stinks from its head?
    Well that could explain the things here. Spirits are controlling majority of people without same people being aware of it.
    Free will is a rule but affecting is not ,hence thoughts are being infused into minds ,patterns of thinking, even vivid pictures or whole conversations- all in order to provoke reaction of people.
    Then when people react ,they mostly do it blindly erring or doing things which they regret afterwards.

    Whenever you do good thing, or a good deed, it does not comes unnoticed by all sides. Dark ones then seek to diminish your effort ,to down it. Then they turn to yourself in a form or energy attack or simply by bombarding your mind with negative thoughts, provoking you to do evil.

    As we are physical we can`t deal with them on physical level. But first step in overcoming the enemy is knowledge.
    Knowledge of what is happening and whom is affecting your life in bad way.
    You may think it is this or that but major affecter are spiritual entities.

    That is why this is a war for souls. They wish that humans be enslaved or dead. Why?
    Because human kind are meant to inherit eternal blessings from Creator.
    Bible spoke of that.
    Now forget all that you assume about Bible. Forget all and approach from other angle.
    Story written there is bigger than we ever thought of.
    One of the reasons why that story is blurred or diminished was and is dark ones`s wishes that we as humans never ever raise our head and have knowledge. Hence the history of lies ,murders and all evil to keep the truth out of humanity`s hands.

    But never forget that little thingy ... free will. By free will that is granted to me I choose to know and to be. I choose to live and to love. I choose to have nothing with darkness. I choose to live my life like some people never will, I choose to find kindness ,beauty and truth.

    I hope that you too - who ever you are that reads this lines - will choose wisely.
    Circles that we start always are rounding to our face, some may feel as blessing and other as curse. May you choose knowledge filled with love,tossed with wisdom and justice - first step towards Creator as our everlasting Father.

    Beren, You spoke straight from my heart... I am new to the forum so plz forgive me for only reading the first two pages of this thread.

    What can be difficult for people to understand is that we are all one in consciousness with individual free will, and this consciousness can be influenced negatively by the wrong entities. Realizing that we have free will and exercising it can set us free from the bondage's that keep us down (physically, emotionally, and spiritually).
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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    And that faith and trust is exactly being exploited by all. By religions ,by governments, by schools, by everyone. Sometimes I am amazed of the size of the agreed conspiracy against humanity...
    One terribly big maze of evil against sons and daughters of God...
    This cycles back to rediscovering free will. Letting go of the 'control' systems we have been conditioned to accept and becoming one with God. I have many 'Christian' friends who still don't understand how their churches indoctrinate them to feel unworthy unless they conform to the churches will. These same people fear that if they grasp the free will concept and move forward spiritually they will be condemned by their church. They don't realize that the same church they are devoted to reinforces the control which keeps them further away from God spiritually.

    Beren - your words are so wise and you state them eloquently!
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    While the essential message of Jesus is at the core of Christian teaching, I cant believe a God who is unconditional love would judge us and send us to hell.
    I believe that in that respect we are master of our own fate. What we sow wee reap is true.
    The Lords prayer is prayer enough.
    That and Beloved God how may I serve You?
    We raise our consciousness by devotion to our loving Creator, by aligning our will to His will, then all is well.
    Simple but not easy, there are many temptations and distractions.

    One sage said "The love of God is unconditionally available to all, but God loves those the most who love Him.

    Ch
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    While the essential message of Jesus is at the core of Christian teaching, I cant believe a God who is unconditional love would judge us and send us to hell.
    I believe that in that respect we are master of our own fate. What we sow wee reap is true.
    The Lords prayer is prayer enough.
    That and Beloved God how may I serve You?
    We raise our consciousness by devotion to our loving Creator, by aligning our will to His will, then all is well.
    Simple but not easy, there are many temptations and distractions.

    One sage said "The love of God is unconditionally available to all, but God loves those the most who love Him.

    Ch
    You know what is funny ye olde pirate?
    Right now you can talk with the Creator of the universe!!!
    Every soul can, right now!

    Will they talk to God?

    No.

    Why?

    I believe your ego thread explained a lot...
    It`s a battle inside to overcome many things and simply start genuine conversation with God !
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote While the essential message of Jesus is at the core of Christian teaching, I cant believe a God who is unconditional love would judge us and send us to hell.
    From my understanding, what is referred to as hell in the Bible has been translated from the word pit. I also remember learning about 'purgatory' in bible school... My own spiritual understanding is that hell doesn't exist, and that purgatory isn't a specific place either. The only thing I can relate to what purgatory may be is the place we go between reincarnated lives as we progress spiritually. Since purgatory isn't taught as a permanent place then this theory makes sense to me. Church teachings have twisted so much of the truth that it's even very hard for scholars to decipher what the original teachings were.

    Quote I believe that in that respect we are master of our own fate. What we sow wee reap is true.
    God is love. If you have children then you should realize how important it is to punish children when they need correcting. Punishment is a way of teaching children to be accountable for their actions. So if I need to be punished from time to time because of my own actions then I must understand this as God's love for me to succeed on my journey.

    Quote The Lords prayer is prayer enough.
    That and Beloved God how may I serve You?
    Actually I believe that Jesus taught us that He was here to serve us. What are we asked in return? To honor God's name, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven (unconditional love to others), receive our daily bread (don't expect abundance in material things - this means nothing to spiritual growth), forgive others so we may be forgiven (unconditional love again), and give God the credit for the Kingdom, the Power and the Glory of the universe. In essence we serve God by showing others the unconditional love He shows us and give Him credit for it.

    Quote We raise our consciousness by devotion to our loving Creator, by aligning our will to His will, then all is well.
    Simple but not easy, there are many temptations and distractions.
    I honestly believe our consciousness is raised by loving our fellow man as we are instructed to do. This brings us closer to God because we become more like him. His will is for us to show unconditional love for others. It's true this is not easy, we have to let go of selfishness and control of issues as they unfold.

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    One sage said "The love of God is unconditionally available to all, but God loves those the most who love Him.
    I don't believe this quote in the context that it sounds. If you have more than one child then it would be easy to understand that you don't love more over another. You may favor one because he or she shows more respect and honor for your wishes. Then again for the child who rebels and gets into trouble (even outside of your influence) you grieve for their struggles. This is because you know the child who submits to your will (doing what is right) can look forward to an easier path in life. You grieve for the child who is constantly getting into trouble because you know he or she is only causing more grief in his or her life. God doesn't love any one of us less than another. He has given us free will to do what we may, and advises us before hand that we have consequences for our actions.

    These comments are my own point of view... I respect your point of view, however I will have to agree to disagree with your comments.
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