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    now let's take a look at the fallout map from North Korea's Hydrogen Bomb Test...

    wow...



    Kim just figured out how to rain Nuclear fallout on Washington DC

    should make for a toxic combo, of course nothing to see here folks...

    just move along, it isn't on headline news, so nothing to worry about...
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    State of Emergency: Radioactive material, byproduct of Uranium, released from massive gas blowout in LA


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    © @latimesgraphics - Approximate location of safety valve. (not scaled to specs or shape) Source: Southern California Gas Co.

    Quote Expert: "A lot" has been detected [radon], very dangerous
    Official: "Levels can cause "significant health risks."
    Robert Kennedy Jr., Jan 8, 2016: Their animals are dying... their fish are dying in their fish bowls, their dogs are dying, their cats are getting sick. And their children are getting sick — they're suffering nose bleeds, they're suffering terrible debilitating migraine headaches, asthma attacks, respiratory infections, eye infections, ear infections, stomach ailments...

    The health impact — it's not just methane coming out of that hole... This is global crisis, more importantly this is a local crisis. Because not only do you have methane — you have benzene, toluene, xylene, which are carcinogenic. You have hydrogen sulfide, sulfur dioxide — which are neurotoxic, which can injure your brain, affect memory, injure your kidneys, your liver, your other bodily organs. There's also a lot of radon gas being measured in the area. People believe — we don't know if this is true — the gas that is leaking at 2 miles deep is now coming out and pushing that radon up into people's living rooms, their bedrooms, their nurseries.

    Lawyers and Settlements, Jan 7, 2016: The leak has caused a continuous flow of gases and fluids. Methane alone is leaking 100,000 pounds per hour, according to Los Angeles city attorney Mike Feuer. Along with that greenhouse gas is methyl mercaptans (odorants added to gas to aid in leak detection) and aromatic hydrocarbons. More concernedly, health officials have identified benzene and radon, both known carcinogens.

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    Wow, I just spoke with an Oil Safety and Emergency specialist...

    He says it could have been contained within days using the same technology used at all of our landfills, at this point if they admit they could have stopped it the fines will be astronomical for Sempra Energy...

    Someone needs to get Occupy Wall Street out in front of Sempra...

    time for the 99% to say stop the greed

    it must have an enormous cost for a system like this for them to let so much gas go to waste including environmental pollution they will be forced to clean up, not even counting health damage from those involved...

    Nope, a simple system like this...



    and yes, those skids mean it is portable not needing to be built onsite...

    It's not that they are greedy, they just don't care...

    2 solutions, one that could have started in October, the other far more dangerous health wise to the surrounding communities affected by the toxins, that will take months more to complete.
    burnoff gas to lower pressure enough to seal it or capture everything and turn it into fuel until the pressure from this massive well drops enough to cap it...
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    Perhaps it was meant to leak for as long as possible.

    This sort of thing does not happen by chance when a minimum of hundreds of minds are 'on it' .....and hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake. (and moving into the billions of $ in costs of cleanup, etc)

    The question becomes -----why have it leak for as long as possible?

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    gas prices getting too low, so releasing reserves to hold the price up made much more sense to the bean counters...

    too bad Sempra's adviser had an IQ under 70 and his little brain couldn't comprehend it would affect residents half a mile away...

    Maybe we are seeing a Public Company about to be absorbed by local governments...

    time for California's resources to be taken over by we the people...

    has anyone looked to see how many storage operations had the safety valve removed and not replaced?

    what happens if the big one hit and suddenly 30 wells like this one open up with a crack in the ground?
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    my Nephew flew into LA and stayed overnight, this morning on his way down he started coughing, this all the way to the toes whooping cough. 3 I know here in San Diego started having that cough the same day as a southerly breeze from LA... it's been coming up on 3 weeks and they all still have it...

    this isn't funny...

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    This is ridiculous...let the lawsuits begin, that is the only thing that will stop them.

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    I just talked to a friend, his Dad up in LA just checked into emergency with the same cough as others I know...

    This is just from my small circle, how many are really going through this?

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    Good news then.

    It was on our local national radio today, in the morning news show.

    Some Belgian journalists who happened to be in LA for another documentary by coincidence (the details of which I missed) got introduced to this problem.

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    the latest ...

    The invisible catastrophe sickening families in California

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    Quote Porter Ranch seems like a picturesque Southern California town, but an environmental disaster has been unfolding there for several months. Natural gas has been spewing from an underground storage facility, causing health issues for residents and forcing temporary relocations for thousands of households. Special correspondent Cat Wise reports.
    Published on Jan 18, 2016


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    Quote Posted by cccme (here)
    This is ridiculous...let the lawsuits begin, that is the only thing that will stop them.
    It's OBSCENE! I'm amazed the lawsuits haven't already started (with the council or mayor or whoever is responsible for GETTING IT FIXED!)

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    Porter Ranch Methane Leak Spreads Across LA’s San Fernando Valley

    It now looks like the catastrophic Porter Ranch gas leak, which has spewed more than 83,000 metric tons of noxious methane for nearly three months, has spread across Los Angeles’s San Fernando Valley.

    On Wednesday, Los Angeles City Councilman Mitchell Englander called on the Southern California Gas Co. to extend residential relocation assistance to residents in Granada Hills, Chatsworth and Northridge who live near the Aliso Canyon gas leak above Porter Ranch. These residents reported symptoms related to the exposure of natural gas such as nausea, vomiting, headaches and respiratory problems.




    “Whatever else may be in the gas—benzene, toluene, xylene—that is what people may be breathing,” Phillips told Inside Climate News. “Even though we’re not measuring things other than methane, there is a legitimate concern that there is that other nasty stuff in there.”...

    http://ecowatch.com/2016/01/15/porte...-leak-spreads/
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    I'd rather see it on fire... at least then the toxins would be mostly visible & people would have sensational video to force resolution of the issue...
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    I'm currently living(temporarily) about 15 miles from this leak, in Van Nuys, CA. I've experienced mild respiratory issues, but nothing too heavy. Still if anyone can point me to resources re: detoxing form benzene/radon exposure,I'd greatly appreciate it.

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    Major Radiation Emergency Los Angeles
    Newsroom - Feb 03, 2016
    https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/849


    I don't know how much of this article is genuine and how much is fear porn, but whatever the case, it doesn't look good for L.A..( I couldn't get the images to embed, so please go to the article if you want to see them.)



    Quote A leaking natural gas well is spewing LETHAL LEVELS of naturally-occurring Uranium, Radon and other radioactive materials into the air around Los Angeles. Parts of the city may be "uninhabitable" for years!

    In October, 2015, a gas well began leaking in the Aliso Canyon gas storage field, in the Porter Ranch area of Los Angeles. Now, it has been revealed that naturally-occurring radiation from ground Uranium, has also been spewing out of that leaking well and so much has come out, that the situation constitutes a "Massive Radiation Emergency."
    The photo below shows how severe the well is leaking. The photo is INFRA-RED so you can see the otherwise invisible gas:



    As you can see from the image above, the leak is huge, and the plume of gas stretches literally for MILES above heavily populated and wealthy areas of Los Angeles.

    Southern California Gas is trying to seal the leak, but things aren't going as planned. Below is a graphic showing how the Company hopes to seal the leak:



    RADIATION

    According to experts from the International Association for Protection from Ionizing Rays (AIPRI) in France, lethal levels of naturally-occurring radiation are coming out of the well and people will die from that radiation.

    The “methane” coming out of the well is usually called Natural Gas. It normally contains “natural radioactive materials” that are made in the inside of exploding stars. They are things like Uranium 238 and Radon which have been here since the planet was formed. They are in the very dirt of the Earth and thus are in natural gas, naturally. You can’t have one without the other.

    AIPRI notes the rogue well is spewing huge amounts of Natural Gas and about 1.91 Curie an hour maximum of natural radioactive material in the natural gas. Not much, you think? That is about 45.95 Curies per day. It is a really, really big leak of natural gas and the radiation it always carries.

    A Curie is a unit of measure used in the United States to describe very large radioactive releases easily and this is a very big radioactive release.

    The French Becquerel is a much more human sized unit of measure for radiation. One Becquerel is one Radioactive Disintegration (Count) per Second. One Curie equals 37 Billion Becquerels or Radioactive Counts per Second. One point Seven Trillion Becquerels per day spew from the Natural Gas well. That’s a number with a bunch of Zeros – a real Fukushima-class disaster number, right here in the USA.

    From Europe, AIPRI finds:

    “In 80 days of viscous and gaseous fumes at a breakneck pace of 1.7 million m3 per day (1115 tons per day at a rate of 46 tons per hour escape from the underground storage), 136 million m3 Natural gas dispersed in the air could carry with them having TBq 301.24 (3,01E14 Bq) is 8.14 KCI natural radioactivity for respirable (breathable) emanation of 12.060 Million Sieverts is equivalent 2.41 million potential lethal doses by inhalation according to the same dose coefficients from the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP).”
    Recently, however, officials in California began to publicly acknowledge that the amount of gas spewing from the well had been dramatically under-estimated. In fact, officials now admit that THREE TIMES AS MUCH GAS has been leaking as originally thought!

    Using the same analysis from the AIPRI and the ICRP but with the newest numbers as to the amount of gas leaking, AIPRI amended their report to say the following:

    If the leak, as it is now admitted, is actually 3 times greater i.e. 5.1 million m3 of effluent per day (3346 tons per day), with the same content per meter cube of radon 222 the natural radionuclides contained in the underground gas would skyrocket to 30.75 MBq (3.53 mCi) per second, of 470.69 GBq (12,72 Ci) per hour, 11.30 TBq (305.31 Ci) per day for an excursion in 90 days 1.02 PBq (27,48 KCi) a dispersion of 40.7 million Sieverts representing 8.14 million lethal doses by inhalation.
    What it all means is it is time for people in LA and the San Fernando Valley to get out of town. All the homes in the path of the gas leak are now contaminated with radiation. It is on the roofs, on the sidewalks, the grass, the furniture in the backyards, children's swings, sliding ponds, play toys and sand boxes outside. It has drifted INSIDE those homes via open windows. It's on the floor where you walk into the house, on the chairs where you sit (after it fell on your clothes outside as you walked into the house). It's on your pillows in bed, after radiation got onto your hair outside, and on your bed sheets, from exposed body parts where radiation fell on them outside. It's everywhere.


    NOSEBLEEDS, VOMITING are from RADIATION SICKNESS!

    Many residents of Chatsworth, Northridge and Granada Hills have been complaining of nosebleeds, vomiting and diarrhea which they attribute to smelling the gas or the chemical odorant added to it to allow people to smell it. But the symptoms of nosebleeds, vomiting and diarrhea are ALSO signs of radiation sickness! Sadly, no one has bothered to ask their Doctors to check them for radiation sickness, even though the cause of these troubles can be directly linked to that exact cause!


    EXPLOSION DANGER GROWING

    Natural Gas can explode if exposed to an ignition source like a pilot light on a stove or in a hot water heater. Less likely is a spark from a light switch, or a bad distributor cap or spark plug wire in a car.

    Those of you who have seen stories in the past about "gas explosions" in homes or buildings, know that such explosions are utterly devastating. The photo below shows the results of a single home exploding in Indianapolis, IN. The explosion destroyed thirty (30) homes!

    This is what Chatsworth, Northridge and Granada Hills will look like if the gas plume floating above those homes, ignites! The only difference will be that the entire communities would be flattened, not just a few homes. The deaths and injuries from such an event would be mind-boggling, yet people are not being told how dangerous this leak is, and many are remaining in the area!


    KEPT QUIET - DELIBERATELY

    Why the public in Los Angeles is not being told this by authorities is simple to understand: They don't want a panic on their hands and, more importantly, they don't want business and industry to be shut down, costing jobs and billions in tax revenues to be lost.

    Put simply, it is better for the government to keep you in the dark to collect tax money than it is for them to admit what's happening, have you leave, and thus cut-off their cash from your labor. The fact that many of you will die is really not important to them.

    Don't believe us? Buy your own little Geiger Counter and take some readings yourself. Folks in the area where this gas is blowing will see radiation counts exceeding 2,000 counts-per-minute. In some cases, exceeding that by many times. Then ask the California Highway Patrol what their criteria is for a "Radiation Emergency?" They'll tell you "Any reading of 500 Counts-Per-Minute CPM or higher is considered a radiation emergency." It's been their protocol for years. Same thing with the LA Fire Department. Ask them. They'll tell you.


    Sources:

    AIPRI Report
    https://translate.google.co.uk/trans...m/&prev=search

    ICRP Web Site with Standards and Safe Level Information
    http://www.icrp.org/

    Documentation of Nose Bleeds and Vomiting on mass scale
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/scienc...aster-since-BP

    Documentation of Radiation Sickness Symptoms (Nosebleeds, vomiting, diarrhea)
    https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/...cle/000026.htm

    Documentation of Explosive range for methane gas (Upper Explosive Limit UEL and Lowest Explosive Limit LEL)
    https://www.mathesongas.com/pdfs/pro...ve-Limits-.pdf


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    South of Tijuana is a refinery and they do continuous burnoff of what is pouring out of the ground in LA...

    the downwind community has a 700% higher birth defect rate than other parts of Mexico

    this is no secret

    the fact it could have been stopped in October makes this criminal...

    when are we going to get some police officers with some balls, to step in and start arresting these greedy bastards who think they are too big to jail?

    how many will be killed by this leak? we won't know for years...

    now for those of you thinking what about the farms in the area down wind from these leaks...

    "Plants draw radioactive isotopes into their organic structure, and concentrate them into their tissue. Among vegetable foods know to be more radioactive are white potatoes, sweet potatoes, coconuts, spinach, bananas, Brazil nuts, and cocoa powder – a major ingredient in chocolate.

    But the radiation danger associated with food does not end in your grocery bag. The natural gas you cook with also contains radioactive radon gas. And this brings me to the topic of the gas from Barnett Shale, that comes from under Fort Worth, Texas.

    Shale contains small but significant concentrations of radioactive uranium and thorium. This would most certainly be the case with Barnett Shale. Natural gas is extracted from Barnett shale by hydraulic cracking. As water is injected into natural gas wells a tiny amount of radioactive materials including uranium, and radium get leached into the water. Some of the water inevitably enters the ground water, and the contamination spreads. Sometimes it reaches the surface through water recovery, wells or springs. This is one source of radiation hazard associated with natural gas extraction from Barnett Shale. According to the Denton Record-Chronicle, there are 140 radiation cleanup sites in Texas, most involving radioactive materials from natural sources. (see also stories here, here, and here.) Twenty-five of those radiation clean up sites are were in Denton, Tarrant, and Wise Counties, areas where gas is extracted from Barnett shale. Radioactive contaminated sites include gas wells and equipment storage yards. A thousand barrels or radioactive contaminants have been removed from cleanup sites in North Texas, and hundreds of thousands of barrels of radioactive materials associated with oil and gas radiation cleanup, have been removed from sites in Texas, during the last 20 years..." link

    We have containment systems that could be brought in to capture all of it, California should step in and take over the recovery operation, if the state was smart. it would put a buy in on all the $20/Barrel crude it could get it's hands on and pump it into this underground storage, there isn't a person on this planet that doesn't know gas is eventually going back up. when it does, it can sell off the reserves the money made put back into the pensions that were drained, the rest spent on infrastructure projects and disaster cleanup.

    Speaking of Fracking and health disasters not related to Mosquitoes...

    Flint Michigan Fracking

    they wouldn't happen to be upriver...

    " Michigan's Flint River is a 142-mile-long river that flows through Flint, Michigan, and the counties of Genesee, Lapeer, and Saginaw. The city of Flint, Michigan, is located on the river Flint River Michigan about 60 miles north of Detroit and is the fourth largest city in Michigan. Other cities near or along the Flint River Mi. include Montrose, Flushing, Genesee, Columbiaville, and Lapeer.

    The river is supplemented by four major creeks, according to Wikipedia: the Kearsley (draining the south and central portions of the east side of Genesee County), Thread (draining the south central part of the county), Swartz (draining the Swartz Creek area), and Misteguay creeks (draining the area near the northern section of the border of Genesee and Shiawassee Counties)"

    strange, a river that goes through Flushing twice really doesn't sound like water anyone should drink... maybe it's just me...

    let's spot where this fracking is happening...



    Doesn't look like any of the fracking operation are on the flint river...



    look at all those sludge pools, just think, now that no one can drink from the flint river, frackers will be able to work on even more wells... free water for them and everyone else pays more...

    wait, why are there disposal wells next to Flint if there isn't fracking?

    the state gets 5-6% on sales, but have to take care of cleanup so they have sludge pools...

    let me look for the right thread...

    3 BILLION GALLONS of Fracking Wastewater Pumped Into Clean California Aquifiers: “Errors Were Made” State Admits

    nope, not that one...

    ooh someone was asking for this earlier

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ink#post704659
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    continuing my search...

    Radioactive black goo source located

    not that one, but this is important

    Quote Posted by Ria (here)
    Fracking and Drinking Water Map: This Map Shows Where You Shouldn’t Drink Tap Water in the USA Posted by admin on 10 July 2013 under Fracking, Take Action

    http://strangesounds.org/2013/07/fra...n-the-usa.html

    Fracking For Natural Gas is turning the beautiful America into a toxic hell!

    This map shows two important information: The US rivers in blue and the main US fracking areas (natural gas reserves) superimposed in red. And Woah! It’s just terrifiying!



    "There is just one thing I would say about this terrifying map: Be careful if you live in a red area near a fracking site, your tap water may be contaminated and poisoned by the chemicals and other toxic substances used for fracking as described in Chemicals Used In Hydraulic Fracturing. You are not in danger everywhere in these red areas. The risk of contamination is related to your distance to a well.

    Just to clarify, NOT ALL OF THESE RED AREAS ARE CONTAMINATED (again, they represent US natural gas reserves), but they have a higher risk of contamination due to a high concentration of fracking activity."

    finally I found it, a cheap purification system all fracking operations should use on any planet inhabited by humans...

    run it through the purifier, then put it back in the ground...

    "AltelaRain® has significant and noteworthy benefits when compared to competing evaporative platforms including less energy usage, lower capital costs for the equipment and the option to beneficially re-use a clean, distilled water product following purification.

    AltelaRain® has been effectively treating complex waste fluids for the past decade. Waters treated to date include frac flowback, produced water, and re-concentrating completion brines from oil & gas operations, landfill leachate, and RO concentrate. In our field operations, we are treating these wastes with TDS levels up to 180,000 mg/L*. These waste streams are processed into a concentrated wastewater stream and a distillate water stream meeting NPDES discharge limitations.

    Waste heat, co-gen applications, and alternate fuel sources (for example, landfill gas “LFG”) have the potential to reduce utility costs by as much as 80% – thereby increasing the return on investment. AltelaRain® is unique in its ability to use low level waste heat. The AltelaRain® process is able to utilize waste heat gas and liquid streams with temperature as low as 250°F... link

    the filters will gather heavy metals that most likely can be sold instead of making children drink it... pretty easy choice
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    As far as fracking is concerned, there are/were(?) activities defined as onshore gas drilling in and around Groningen, the Netherlands. Couple of years ago, there was a scandal. Apparently the oil company tried to buy off the earth quake victims (link, for full story, consider this article only as a starting point). And the Northern African region is also seeing recurrent earth quakes by the Strait of Gibraltar, the last one of which reached 6.3 on the scale of Richter just last month. Locals have been reporting earth quakes since ca. three years, but lots of fogginess as to exact cause, plus the quakes seldom make the news.

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    did you know Michigan just volunteered to take fracking waste from around the country and will inject it deep in the ground, which according to the same experts that said there is no Climate change, say it is completely safe for ground water supplies and rivers...

    Like Flint who is having their lead pipes dissolve...

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    South of Tijuana is a refinery and they do continuous burnoff of what is pouring out of the ground in LA...

    the downwind community has a 700% higher birth defect rate than other parts of Mexico

    this is no secret

    the fact it could have been stopped in October makes this criminal...

    when are we going to get some police officers with some balls, to step in and start arresting these greedy bastards who think they are too big to jail?

    how many will be killed by this leak? we won't know for years...

    now for those of you thinking what about the farms in the area down wind from these leaks...

    "Plants draw radioactive isotopes into their organic structure, and concentrate them into their tissue. Among vegetable foods know to be more radioactive are white potatoes, sweet potatoes, coconuts, spinach, bananas, Brazil nuts, and cocoa powder – a major ingredient in chocolate.

    But the radiation danger associated with food does not end in your grocery bag. The natural gas you cook with also contains radioactive radon gas. And this brings me to the topic of the gas from Barnett Shale, that comes from under Fort Worth, Texas.

    Shale contains small but significant concentrations of radioactive uranium and thorium. This would most certainly be the case with Barnett Shale. Natural gas is extracted from Barnett shale by hydraulic cracking. As water is injected into natural gas wells a tiny amount of radioactive materials including uranium, and radium get leached into the water. Some of the water inevitably enters the ground water, and the contamination spreads. Sometimes it reaches the surface through water recovery, wells or springs. This is one source of radiation hazard associated with natural gas extraction from Barnett Shale. According to the Denton Record-Chronicle, there are 140 radiation cleanup sites in Texas, most involving radioactive materials from natural sources. (see also stories here, here, and here.) Twenty-five of those radiation clean up sites are were in Denton, Tarrant, and Wise Counties, areas where gas is extracted from Barnett shale. Radioactive contaminated sites include gas wells and equipment storage yards. A thousand barrels or radioactive contaminants have been removed from cleanup sites in North Texas, and hundreds of thousands of barrels of radioactive materials associated with oil and gas radiation cleanup, have been removed from sites in Texas, during the last 20 years..." link

    We have containment systems that could be brought in to capture all of it, California should step in and take over the recovery operation, if the state was smart. it would put a buy in on all the $20/Barrel crude it could get it's hands on and pump it into this underground storage, there isn't a person on this planet that doesn't know gas is eventually going back up. when it does, it can sell off the reserves the money made put back into the pensions that were drained, the rest spent on infrastructure projects and disaster cleanup.

    Speaking of Fracking and health disasters not related to Mosquitoes...

    Flint Michigan Fracking

    they wouldn't happen to be upriver...

    " Michigan's Flint River is a 142-mile-long river that flows through Flint, Michigan, and the counties of Genesee, Lapeer, and Saginaw. The city of Flint, Michigan, is located on the river Flint River Michigan about 60 miles north of Detroit and is the fourth largest city in Michigan. Other cities near or along the Flint River Mi. include Montrose, Flushing, Genesee, Columbiaville, and Lapeer.

    The river is supplemented by four major creeks, according to Wikipedia: the Kearsley (draining the south and central portions of the east side of Genesee County), Thread (draining the south central part of the county), Swartz (draining the Swartz Creek area), and Misteguay creeks (draining the area near the northern section of the border of Genesee and Shiawassee Counties)"

    strange, a river that goes through Flushing twice really doesn't sound like water anyone should drink... maybe it's just me...

    let's spot where this fracking is happening...



    Doesn't look like any of the fracking operation are on the flint river...



    look at all those sludge pools, just think, now that no one can drink from the flint river, frackers will be able to work on even more wells... free water for them and everyone else pays more...

    wait, why are there disposal wells next to Flint if there isn't fracking?

    the state gets 5-6% on sales, but have to take care of cleanup so they have sludge pools...

    let me look for the right thread...

    3 BILLION GALLONS of Fracking Wastewater Pumped Into Clean California Aquifiers: “Errors Were Made” State Admits

    nope, not that one...

    ooh someone was asking for this earlier

    Detox from Heavy Metals
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