The Hybrids & Clones Amongst Us

[Kristin]

Posted by wynderer (here)
Kristin -- one question: Are you a milab?

Yes, I am and I am many other things as well. It is a part of my history and a piece of my story. It is not a definition of me, only an accepted knowing that I have come to terms with.

[wynderer]

thank you -- & may i say, well done, Sis, re coming to terms w/it

in token of my trusting you as telling the truth -- here's a real-time memory that recently has been surfacing:

in i think early Feb of 1966 --maybe late Jan -- , i was returning to Philly from college in Oklahoma -- there was a huge blizzard on the east coast USA -- Philly airport snowed in, so our plane landed in NYC

i was 18? 19? young & really dumb -- i was escorted, from among many stranded passengers, alone, to a waiting helicopter -- military-looking, 'Nam-style -- i can't remember the face of my escort

i remember nothing of that trip -- tho my first plane ride was to Oklahoma in Sept '65, & i remember that vividly

there's more to the story -- end of consideration, i sometimes think i flunked out of the sex kitten program, & they gave me to the Reptilians to play with --tho i guess i did alright on the chopper ride, as perks were waiting for me when i came to consciousness in the Philly airport

just a 3D/4D show on one level

wyn

Posted by Kristin (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
Kristin -- one question: Are you a milab?

Yes, I am and I am many other things as well. It is a part of my history and a piece of my story. It is not a definition of me, only an accepted knowing that I have come to terms with.

[Kristin]

Glad you can share that with us. In my case there were memories that were of an amazing alien nature that were used to "cover" my memories of the military involvement. It works both ways. Not only is the military using this tech, but it seems the greys and others are as well. It's one big happy abduction family, if you like. They work with each other and have shared this type of overlay tech.

Coming to terms is always an ongoing process... LOL, there are many conditioned responses that I've had to become familiar with to understand how deep the rabbit hole is for me. It's not easy and will at times still rear it's ugly head. But I've gotten to know many things about myself through the process and have healed a great deal. I am grateful to this forum for allowing the space for people to come together and discuss these things.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[Kristin]

Now I feel that it is VERY important to understand that the emotional manipulation of this is key... as there are others feeding off of this. Keeping a level head and an even "observer" type of mind frame is very important. We are food in many ways.

[wynderer]

this is where trusting enough to post on Avalon is helping me -- i've met a few folks who are into Dolores Cannon, & , by her terminolgy, they see me as being here for the first time, here in a Human body

this has been a very confusing life -- Kristin, i would greatly appreciate if you could spell out for a 3D Earth dummy some kind of idea re the emotional manipulations

Posted by Kristin (here)
Now I feel that it is VERY important to understand that the emotional manipulation of this is key... as there are others feeding off of this. Keeping a level head and an even "observer" type of mind frame is very important. We are food in many ways.

[Kristin]

I'll get back to you soon, right now I have a lovely meal that I'm preparing. I would greatly suggest Houman's Horus Ra thread. There is a great deal of information there that can aid you.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[wynderer]

trying a new way of responding

Posted by Kristin (here)
Glad you can share that with us. In my case there were memories that were of an amazing alien nature that were used to "cover" my memories of the military involvement. It works both ways. Not only is the military using this tech, but it seems the greys and others are as well. It's one big happy abduction family, if you like. They work with each other and have shared this type of overlay tech.

[interesting: i have recently been feeling that the 'ET' memories were covering/putting in the shadow the milab memories-- but, as you say [ROTFLMAO], 'one big happy abduction family']

Coming to terms is always an ongoing process... LOL, there are many conditioned responses that I've had to become familiar with to understand how deep the rabbit hole is for me. It's not easy and will at times still rear it's ugly head. But I've gotten to know many things about myself through the process and have healed a great deal. I am grateful to this forum for allowing the space for people to come together and discuss these things.

[i am very willing to learn about the conditioned/programmed responses -- & i always appreciate honest feedback (& i wish i did not have to pay this much attention to myself in order to survive ) -- as i see it, we need our friends to reflect back the best & truest picture of ourselves]

From the Heart,
Kristin

[wynderer]

Kristin -- i am NOT asking you to show me the way/suggest threads/modalities of healing

i know what i am doing & where i am going -- for me, it's more a question of: what do i share w/whom?

i tend to bridle first, & then run from, those who suggest they have the way out -- i am not asking/expecting you to 'aid me'

i have read & grok the gist of Houman's thread -- in fact, i have lived quite a bit of it

Posted by Kristin (here)
I'll get back to you soon, right now I have a lovely meal that I'm preparing. I would greatly suggest Houman's Horus Ra thread. There is a great deal of information there that can aid you.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[wynderer]

quite a few posts going back & forth between Kristin et moi -- checking it out: i shared something real, a real-time experience

Kristin quite evasive -- no facts, no stories...

edit to add : i like to say, Let there be transparency on Earth, & let it begin w/me -- just trying to find somewhere i can be transparent

[wynderer]

this seems to be a weak point w/Humans -- the emotional manipulation -- thinking of Justoneman & Daughter of Time, their stories, which get a lot of sympathy

if y'all wanted to listen , i could tell y'all about resisting/wiping out the emotional manipulation -- but then we step it up a notch into the 'mental' field

Posted by Kristin (here)
Now I feel that it is VERY important to understand that the emotional manipulation of this is key... as there are others feeding off of this. Keeping a level head and an even "observer" type of mind frame is very important. We are food in many ways.

[wynderer]

asking you for facts & true stories, Kristin -- that's how i learn

[Kristin]

Everything that I have posted on this thread is from personal experience... take it as you will. I can not control how you feel about my responses or if you find them to be less then you would have them. I would not presume to tell you how to think nor how to feel. Nor am I willing to be badgered into a conversation with you. I leave you to your thoughts, will all due respect.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

I am open to trying again at a latter date.

[wynderer]

games going on, imo -- this thread open to anyone who has anything real to post --Kristin, looking hard for your 'personal experience' posts -- quite a few exchanges between us w/many opportunities for you to share 'personal experiences' -- no go so far -- will welcome them when i see them --

but don't need them -- nor your conversation--pls release badgered feeling

PS -- just did a quick scan back thru your posts, Kristin -- definitely no personal experience posts from you -- a few skirting the edges a bit, & hinting at some

Posted by Kristin (here)
Everything that I have posted on this thread is from personal experience... take it as you will. I can not control how you feel about my responses or if you find them to be less then you would have them. I would not presume to tell you how to think nor how to feel. Nor am I willing to be badgered into a conversation with you. I leave you to your thoughts, will all due respect.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

I am open to trying again at a latter date.

[nomadguy]

Here is a random question, perhaps some one has an answer.

If someone had an abduction experience and their memory is blocked.
AND happen not to have access to Dolores Cannon or someone like that...

Is there a more hands-on or practical way to recall these memories?

Thanks

[wynderer]

hi Nomadguy -- this whole abduction/milab/clones/hybrid area is one where everyone is looking for answers/greater understanding , i think -- & the answers are hard to find, because the controllers like to operate in secrecy

the problem w/memory retrieval [as i see it] is that the memory suppression techniques are quite sophisticated -- as Observer says, they are very clever at what they do -- apparently they install implants, backed up w/suggestions/commands, given to our minds when they are in a highly suggestible state, to not remember -- there is some evidence that suicide programming is installed in some if they should begin to remember

then there are the screen memories -- a brutal abduction scene [like the common one of being immobilized on a table w/Greys doing painful, scary things to your body ]-- these experiences/memories are sometimes overlaid w/an implanted memory of the table scene being a nice friendly 'contact'

to show how easy it is for them to manipulate images in the human mind -- there are accounts of men abductees having sex w/what appears to be some hot chick, who suddenly turns into their mother or their grandmother -- i guess the men's reactions to this are a source of energy/info for the controllers

all of which makes retrieving actual memories rather difficult -- some folks apparently are finding the methods of Steve Richards & Dr Malaanga [sp] helpful [both talked about on Houman's archon thread] -- i personally looked for a hypnotherapist who is aware of the screen memories

Posted by nomadguy (here)
Here is a random question, perhaps some one has an answer.

If someone had an abduction experience and their memory is blocked.
AND happen not to have access to Dolores Cannon or someone like that...

Is there a more hands-on or practical way to recall these memories?

Thanks

[wynderer]

one of the mods here at Avalon just pm'd me re this subject [quoting from pm]:
[B']It appears from your posts that there are various personalities that are peaking [sic] through you as read from the written wording of your posts.'[/B]

several contradictory statements of mine to Kristin in this thread were also quoted

this is so embarrassing, & i am so busted -- i confess that i was drinking whiskey last night -- the last time i drank whiskey was when i was in Alaska in the '80s, when i got my nose broken by a Klingit [Tlingit] friend in a whiskey fight -- the one & only alcohol-induced fight i've ever had -- in fact, the only physical fight i've ever been in -- & my friend was protecting himself, & his head-butt to my nose stopped me cold -- i needed to be stopped -- had been pouring beer on my friends' heads

i've stayed clear away from whiskey since then -- not a good choice of beverage w/Celtic & some Native American blood -- till last night --no broken nose this time, just some jumping around in my thinking -- alcohol not noted for inducing clarity in thinking processes -- & is known for making one more aggressive

i did ask for Kristen's help in an earlier post -- changed my mind after reading her following ones

thanks for your concern, mod -- but no signs of my personality breaking down/alters rearing their ugly or sad heads -- hope you'll be keeping a close eye on me, tho [smile]

[wynderer]

bumping my own post because of this bit from it , partially to explain my comment on the astral sex /having sex on the other side thread

'to show how easy it is for them to manipulate images in the human mind -- there are accounts of men abductees having sex w/what appears to be some hot chick, who suddenly turns into their mother or their grandmother -- i guess the men's reactions to this are a source of energy/info for the controllers'

Posted by wynderer (here)
hi Nomadguy -- this whole abduction/milab/clones/hybrid area is one where everyone is looking for answers/greater understanding , i think -- & the answers are hard to find, because the controllers like to operate in secrecy

the problem w/memory retrieval [as i see it] is that the memory suppression techniques are quite sophisticated -- as Observer says, they are very clever at what they do -- apparently they install implants, backed up w/suggestions/commands, given to our minds when they are in a highly suggestible state, to not remember -- there is some evidence that suicide programming is installed in some if they should begin to remember

then there are the screen memories -- a brutal abduction scene [like the common one of being immobilized on a table w/Greys doing painful, scary things to your body ]-- these experiences/memories are sometimes overlaid w/an implanted memory of the table scene being a nice friendly 'contact'

to show how easy it is for them to manipulate images in the human mind -- there are accounts of men abductees having sex w/what appears to be some hot chick, who suddenly turns into their mother or their grandmother -- i guess the men's reactions to this are a source of energy/info for the controllers

all of which makes retrieving actual memories rather difficult -- some folks apparently are finding the methods of Steve Richards & Dr Malaanga [sp] helpful [both talked about on Houman's archon thread] -- i personally looked for a hypnotherapist who is aware of the screen memories

Posted by nomadguy (here)
Here is a random question, perhaps some one has an answer.

If someone had an abduction experience and their memory is blocked.
AND happen not to have access to Dolores Cannon or someone like that...

Is there a more hands-on or practical way to recall these memories?

Thanks

[Rantaak]

Posted by wynderer (here)
yet another rather rude & immature response, by a member who hangs out w/'Dragons'

Posted by Rantaak (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Conclusion the characteristics you describe come across as follows, you are an extremely hot old chick who can think herself into a pretzelshape while playing a cool drumsolo and in the meanwhile knit flashy thongs out off stringtheory and use the force to make long distancecalls to the smoothiebar to get you some delivered.

Bahahahahahahahahaha!

I'm sorry that you find laughter offensive. That is your choice. My choice is to appreciate good humor!

[wynderer]

edit to add: following Kristin's guidelines, i shortened this, & am hi-liting this paragraph -- pls note that the non-human forces are NOT spiritually superior to Humans

'In a nutshell, what is the alien agenda?
Mankind is being enslaved by non-human forces who are technologically, psychically, and dimensionally superior to us. They consist of multiple factions, spanning multiple dimensions and locations in space-time, all here to take a slice of the human pie. Their ultimate goal is to assimilate us into their fascist empire and parasitically exploit us for our biological, etheric, and physical resources.'
from Tom of Montalk

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...alien_18zt.htm

Synopsis of The Alien Master Plan: The Hybrid Breeding Program and Impending Enslavement of Mankind

by Montalk

22 June 2004

from Montalk Website

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If you want a thorough grasp of what’s going on, I recommend analyzing with discernment the following books:

Gods of Eden – William Bramley

The Threat – Dr David Jacobs

Taken – Dr Karla Turner

The Love Bite – Eve Lorgen

Into The Fringe – Dr Karla Turner

God’s Gladiators – Stuart Wilde

Tales From The Timeloop – David Icke

UFOs and The National Security State – Richard Dolan

The Allies of Humanity – Marshall Summers

Bringers of The Dawn – Barbara Marciniak

The Ra Material, Books I,II,III – Don Elkins, Carla Rueckert

Cassiopaean Transcripts – Cassiopaeans, LKJ

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Evidence is everywhere from:

worldwide religious and mythological accounts commonly describing ancient encounters with advanced beings

anomalous archaeological sites and artifacts indicating past use of superior technology

over a century’s worth of eyewitness sightings of UFOs

hundreds of physical trace samples recovered from UFO landing sites

government documents and whistleblowers acknowledging the existence of extraterrestrials

thousands of abduction cases that include multiple witnesses, memories recalled without hypnosis

undisputable physical and medical evidence confirming these accounts


In a nutshell, what is the alien agenda?

Mankind is being enslaved by non-human forces who are technologically, psychically, and dimensionally superior to us. They consist of multiple factions, spanning multiple dimensions and locations in space-time, all here to take a slice of the human pie. Their ultimate goal is to assimilate us into their fascist empire and parasitically exploit us for our biological, etheric, and physical resources.

Through covert manipulation and hyperdimensional tricks that utilize time travel, they have secretly manipulated and exploited humanity in every way conceivable for tens of thousands of years. We are now seeing their plans overtly manifest with the abduction and hybrid breeding program, and their imminent portrayal as saviors to a human race gone mad with world conflict.

If the world accepts them as saviors, individual freedom as we know it will become snuffed like a blown candle, leaving only darkness.

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What about military abductions?

The secret government’s military factions regularly abduct people for a wide variety of uses, often working under alien factions and using their technology. These uses are too numerous and complex to mention in detail, but include mind control programs, genetics research projects, and the use of psychically sensitive people for remote viewing and assassination purposes.

Due to their hyperdimensional technology, these military factions can covertly abduct people during sleep by beaming them out of their local space-time through portals and into military bases.

Military abductees are frequently tortured via electroshock to create split personalities and install self-destruct, sleeper assassin, or sexual slave mind programming. For example, some mind control projects have created thousands of sleeper agents who can be post-hypnotically triggered at a future date to commit mass violence, which would serve as a pretext for the totalitarian clampdown on our freedoms.

Military abductees are also frequently raped by reptilian aliens who feed upon their fear and suffering. Others lead double lives where one personality participates in covert military missions that would seem like science fiction to the other personality.

Hyperdimensional technology makes this time sharing possible.

[Kristin]

Hello Wyn,
Mod hat on: It is noted that you tend to post a great deal of quoted text in your responses on the threads. In forum Guidelines (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/announcement.php?f=90) please refer to this:


6. POSTING EXTERNAL MATERIAL

When sharing outside material with the forum, please do it in the form of links with summary paragraphs. Posting long passages (i.e. more than a few short paragraphs) of outside text, regardless of relevance, is prohibited.
The summary of the content of the link should be a paragraph of your own words and / or with a single-paragraph excerpt from the text itself.
“Naked” links, i.e. links without summary text, should be avoided, as most members do not have the time to blindly research such links.

Thank you, and this is a great link with an interesting summery to be sure. Please refer to the guidelines in the future.
From the Heart,
Kristin