The awake sleep.

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This sleep is what most of the human race are in right now.
It seem to be the way we experience this reality, by not knowing who we really are.
It's the dream where consciousness becomes aware of itself, by interacting with itself and limit itself through experience form.

By creating duality in your mind, we do this through the unconscious mind, who mimic the reality we experience.
It's like a parrot in one sense, if we think about the repeating thoughts and like a sponge, sucking up all information it can absorb.
And squeezing out just the right emotion after a thought.

One glitch in the matrix of the unconscious mind that most of us have experienced.
Is for example a weird urge to sing a phrase of a song for a hole day some times, well some humes it out or whistle it.
Nevertheless you can't stop yourself and might even say after some time, dang this song seems to be stuck in my head.

The thought there you express yourself how the song seem to be stuck in your mind, is normal to excuse yourself, because the emotion that came with that thought.
Was filled with fear of various reasons, depending on what conditioning you have experienced in your life.
But the thought and emotion can also be a happy one and you feel joyful, the joyful emotion can also spread to other people of the way you express yourself.
After a while though, people close to you, who has listen to you for a long time, get thoughts with negative emotions and express that to you.

Most people is of course unconscious about this and goes on with their lives thinking they are conscious about the choices they make.
Nothing is farther from the truth, because how can you make a conscious choice when you are unconscious about your unconscious thoughts and emotions.?

One way to look at the unconscious thought and emotions, is like a breadcrumb trail to navigate yourself to experience the things you need to get conscious.
This could have taken millions of years through many different life experiences, So to become conscious about this, makes you very humble.

Being unconscious and reading this could most likely make negative thoughts and emotions rise.
If you feel that, it's your true self who trigges these thoughts and emotions to guide you to experience other things you need before you become aware of this.
That's all.

"words from the sage Gangaji"

1, You are free, absolutely and completely

2, The only reason you think you are not free, is that you believe your thoughts.

3, It is possible to recognise that you are free,
by simply being still and noticing what is present before any thought, after all thoughts are finished and also during any thought, and realize you are that.


That's it..

[PurpleLama]

Everyone is sleeping, the trick is to know you're dreaming.

[foreverfan]

Cool... After reading that... I need a nap.

[Lost N Found]

Well darnit all, and I thought I was awake all this time. Can you, or is there anyway, come pinch me and awaken me?

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Hi and thanks..

There's a way to check yourself.

Be completely in silence and don't think about anything, now be the observer to any thoughts that may arise.

Consider yourself pinched, that was the noise from your unconscious thoughts and emotion.

P.s ..Sleep well my friends..

..8..

[dim]

1, You are free, absolutely and completely

2, The only reason you think you are not free, is that you believe your thoughts.

...absolutely, completely... but
how come there's a "but" after absolutely always makes me wonder
and there's always a "but" no matter what

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Posted by dim (here)

1, You are free, absolutely and completely

2, The only reason you think you are not free, is that you believe your thoughts.

...absolutely, completely... but
Sleep well my friends
and there's always a "but" no matter what

Hi and thanks..Dim for your thought.

"but" after absolutely always makes me wonder

Ask yourself, who is that "ME" that is wondering, Is it your true self all knowing consciousness always at peace (no of course not) it's a thought from your unconscious mind.


..8..

[dim]

and what if it's the unconscious mind then ?
even that unconscious mind is powered by the true self or it wouldn't be at all.
If all is one then this compulsive thinking machine that misinterprets everything spiting out dead concepts enslaving souls for eons is one also.

(not that matters but the quote of my post is somehow mistyped in your reply ? )

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Posted by dim (here)
and what if it's the unconscious mind then ?
even that unconscious mind is powered by the true self or it wouldn't be at all.
If all is one then this compulsive thinking machine that misinterprets everything spiting out dead concepts enslaving souls for eons is one also.

(not that matters but the quote of my post is somehow mistyped in your reply ? )

Thanks Dim..

and what if it's the unconscious mind then ?
even that unconscious mind is powered by the true self or it wouldn't be at all.

There are no what if's, it just IS and it is how we experience this reality.

If all is one then this compulsive thinking machine that misinterprets everything spiting out dead concepts enslaving souls for eons is one also.

There IS no dead concepts enslaving souls, look around yourself, the world is alive. How you experience this, will return the experience back to you.
That is why there is so much suffering because people believe their thoughts and their thoughts create their story what they have experienced and who they are.

But thoughts come and goes all the time, the only thing in your life that remains the same IS the one who observes the thoughts and that IS you my friend.
Unchangeable always their looking, you might heard older people say, weird inside I feel the same as when I was young.

Suffer or be free by knowing who you are, it doesn't matter, you are always at peace.

(not that matters but the quote of my post is somehow mistyped in your reply ? )

Your unconscious minds thought and emotion was strong enough to make you write it though.
Don't you worry bout a thing, I could never take any offence when I am conscious.

Jesus kept saying, "Father, forgive them, because they don't know what they're doing."
This comes in to a much more profound meaning when you are conscious.

..8..

[Eagle Eye]

You are awake the moment you stop playing the FEAR game of PTB. In that moment your mind is free from control and start to learn things how they truly are.

[dim]

the fact of suffering isn't oneness ?
the fact of believing ones thoughts isn't oneness ?
that was my point.

if it doesn't' matter and we are at peace always what's the point of the thread ?
why you're talking about it ? why does Gangaji ? why bother at all ?

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Posted by Iceberg (here)
You are awake the moment you stop playing the FEAR game of PTB. In that moment your mind is free from control and start to learn things how they truly are.

Hi and thanks for you view on this Iceberg.

You are awake the moment you stop playing the FEAR game of PTB

Awake to what?, you mean you have become conscious about a few things you did not know before. Yes you are awakening, but what makes you think you are awake?
You don't even know who you are, or do you?

In that moment your mind is free from control

So you are free, I'm happy for you, not a sad moment always in peace with all that IS happening all around you and within yourself.
May I ask what control you free yourself from?, wasn't it more that you became aware of things you where unable to see before.
As in becoming more conscious?


..8..

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Posted by dim (here)
the fact of suffering isn't oneness ?
the fact of believing ones thoughts isn't oneness ?
that was my point.

if it doesn't' matter and we are at peace always what's the point of the thread ?
why you're talking about it ? why does Gangaji ? why bother at all ?

Thanks Dim and good questions.

the fact of suffering isn't oneness ?

No, the suffering is because you believing you are separate, as in, you think you are you're body and the story who comes with that.

the fact of believing ones thoughts isn't oneness ?

That's right, believing your thoughts make you suffer.

if it doesn't' matter and we are at peace always what's the point of the thread ?

It's what I experience right now and you are sharing that experience with me. That is how we grow our consciousness.

why you're talking about it ? why does Gangaji ? why bother at all ?

I want to share my experience because it's the truth and some might be awake enough to see that.
Gangaji just guide people to understand who they already are, not adding anything, just by being quiet and go within yourself so you recognize that you are listening to your thoughts.
You don't have to jump every time a thought pop up in your mind and act on it.

..8..

[Eagle Eye]

We are living in this reality (illusion or not) and for many years we've learned things by someone else view ( teachers,tv,magazine, etc) not ours, that's the type of control I'm talking about. Not thinking with our own mind or following our heart this is our big problem. The awakening starts with rejecting this type of control and see within you the true nature. We are powerful beigns, we don't need any more ingredients to add , we are perfect in the spiritual view and when humanity will realise it than we will be free in this reality or any other reality.

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Posted by Iceberg (here)
We are living in this reality (illusion or not) and for many years we've learned things by someone else view ( teachers,tv,magazine, etc) not ours, that's the type of control I'm talking about. Not thinking with our own mind or following our heart this is our big problem. The awakening starts with rejecting this type of control and see within you the true nature. We are powerful beigns, we don't need any more ingredients to add , we are perfect in the spiritual view and when humanity will realise it than we will be free in this reality or any other reality.

You said that beautiful Iceberg.

But for anyone to realize, they must experience who they really are, words are for the mind go within yourself and experience who you are.
And you will know it in your heart.

..8..