The cost of fat

[sdv]

So do what you can to help others... but you can't be responsible for everyone else - nope

I struggle with that sense of responsibility to help others as well and wonder if it is not just a negative state like guilt. Actually we are only responsible for our own actions, thoughts and feelings. In my own life I find people trying to help me feels like people trying to control me and decide what is best for me.

The flip side of responsibility is to acknowledge that we are part of the problem and we are thus part of the solution. There is no excuse for us to not know what the consequences of our lifestyles and choices are, and we should care. All that is required of us is to do what we can and change what we can. Once we have that mindset then synchronicity will point us in the right direction.

We are all one but we are all different aspects of the source, and greed is an aspect that causes harm to others. Often making healthy choices for ourselves is for the good of all.

What Ernie has said and how he has said it is not going to go away. If we reject his message and choose not to wake up and be open to change, then another Ernie will come along, and another.

[ulli]

Great thread here, Ernie. In my view this self indulgence is due to advertising. Which in turn is due to a corporations battle to survive in a competitive world. The individual doesn't stand a chance considering that whole groups of people spend hours in boardrooms plotting how to find the best marketing strategies and hiring top sociologists, psychologists and artists to lure them into habitual consumption of their products. Fighting against habitual behavior in themselves and breaking out of these patterns is the only hope people have. In my view.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Posted by Shamz (here)
Dear Friend

Although I loved your message and feel what you are saying... but unfortunately this world - universe and all the cosmos doesn't work like that.

For the sake of argument...lets assume ( I wish it comes true ) that Earth is a very peaceful and fulfilling planet for everyone on it... then some ETs can complain that Earth is to blame for some other planet which is not so happy/peaceful ???
I am giving this analogy... because in the big picture....in the grand scheme of things... we all are same... everywhere...in whatever form we are -- all part of the same Source.
Just trying to go back to our original home - one way or the other...swimming the sea of our Karma.

So do what you can to help others... but you can't be responsible for everyone else - nope

Love and Light

Really good Shamz. Exactly! This is how it must inevitably be. We will spread our abundance throughout the universe one day.

Of course, right now, we are under the mistaken belief that there are no other beings on other worlds. We are also told there are no beings in other realms beyond this universe of materiality. It is much the same argument that alows us to ravage this planet of ours in the name of free market capitalism. The agreed upon argument is that anyone complaining about being left out need only start their own enterprise to reap the rewards. What they don't tell us is that established companies will do everything in their power to thwart that attempt.

And yes, I can be responsible for everyone else because otherwise they will rise against me and blow up my buildings! Or drive trucks laden with explosives into my compounds on their sovereign territory. I must be responsible for everyone else or I do not understand the very concept I most believe - that we are all one.

So, in fact, being responsible for everyone else is only being responsible for those parts of myself I mistakenly perceive as not part of myself.

[mosquito]

I've made it back here !!!

I agree with what you say, but it’s all too easy to lay the blame solely on the fat and greedy. Unfortunately, we are all in the position of using products produced by slave labour, but I don’t think it’s necessarily useful for us to go on a guilt trip. I’ve slowly come to the realization (and I seem to recall the author of “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” reaching the same conclusion) that slavery, in one form or another has existed throughout human history. However, that doesn’t justify it.

Five years ago, when I dumped everything out of my life and decided to live simply, I knew that I could very easily live without the unnecessary gadgets and gimmicks which “progress” has foisted on us, but also knew that there were some things, small things like soap and toilet paper which I was not going to live without. These are among the many things which those of us raised in the West have learned to take for granted. How many of us stop to think – “where does it come from ?”; “who makes it ?”; “how much do they get paid ?”. How many people actually CARE ?

I do and I like to think that some of the people on this forum do. But rather than jumping on my soap box and loudly proclaiming that “something must be done”, I’d like to mention another factor which ought to be borne in mind.

Some folk are cut out for manual labour, others aren’t. Some folk are suited to mental work, some are destined to specialize in micro-surgery; some of course are the artists and musicians which are just as vital to a healthy society as the nurses and teachers. And I believe that each person should be encouraged to find their niche, and do their work with love and passion.

So in my view, the way forward is for us to honour ALL our workers, pay everyone a decent living wage. I can’t see this happening until the currently prevailing economic system is replaced with something that actually works. And in turn, I don’t see that happening unless we have a major paradigm shift.

Philip

[Ernie Nemeth]

Thanks so much Philip, it was worth the wait. And it comes at a most opportune time.

Of course there are many great inventions, maybe every invention has its good side. And the ingenuity of mankind knows no bounds. I would not want to go back to the dark ages and live in a hovel. My most favorite thing is the shower. I would not want to live without that, or my nice clean, soft bed either.

No, guilt is not my intention at all. And my focus was mostly for our guests who may not have realized the deeper ramifications of the society we now live in - ruled as it is by the evil monsters that call themselves the elite or whatever.

At the moment I fear for my safety and health because of my post on a thread dealing with Archons and child molestors and snuff porn. I figured I was safe posting this thread because they often do not take me seriously enough to care what I might say or do. No matter, I will deal with it. I might be a bit of an innocent but I learn quickly and I am absolutely convinced of the protection afforded by those that honor love and light and equality for all.

And on a lighter note, there is no way I'm going back to wiping my arse with fig leaves, that's for sure.

I have done what I started out to do. I pointed out the fact that we are all implicit in this conspiracy, whether by ommision or commision. None of us are free of that burden. Now, maybe we can tolerate a bit of necessary discomfort while the world rights itself. That it will right itself is beyond any doubt, and it will be very soon, IMO.

And here also I would like to pray:
Dear Lord of lords, Mother Goddess and all beings of light, hear our prayer.
I ask in the name of all that's right and fair, that our transition to a better world of peace and prosperity be swift and sure with minimal pain and suffering for all the world's peoples. Let all life find a new and true equilibrium where all are cherished for the unique contribution to the whole, and where none are left without succor and solace for the healing they need.
I especially ask for protection for those on the front lines of this struggle, who have sacrificed all for the betterment of all. Watch over our heros and saints, angels and gaurdians, and beings from other worlds and realms. And most especially grant those with budding awareness, still fresh with the tears of their internal struggles Your Diamond Sheild of Light and the Sword of Truth so that they can complete their transformation without undue and unwanted external influence.
And if it is possible and correct, allow our tormentors to see the error of their ways and grant them the ability to ask for forgiveness for their transgressions.
Thank you for listening to this your lowly servant. May Your Will be done.
And so it is.

[sdv]

Thanks for the prayer Ernie - it is beautiful and I am certainly going to add it to my prayer book (where I write up all the beautiful prayers I find from all and every religion and spiritual path)!

[Ernie Nemeth]

Now that the west has , at least in the USA, become officially morbidly obese their time is over.

Now the east will be given their chance. Perhaps they can do what we failed to do. Divide the pie evenly and fairly.

But since it is the same players that have taken their toys from our sandbox and deposited in theirs, it seems the motto will remain: business as usual.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose. That is the cost of fat.

It is no longer correct speech to talk about the largess and apathy that comes with storing fat, as the giant red warning attests to at the beginning of this thread. So thanks for that highlight.

The west has a lot to loose, and so they are not free. They must pay lip service to freedom, because the cost of freedom is the opposite of the cost of fat. One expends energy, one stores it for another day.

Americans in particular are fat with their success. False money masters have invented a false world complete with a false narrative that often defies common sense. And they have become bloated by largess, and fearful for their status. And since the common citizen follows the lead of their betters they emulate their heroes, pretending they are little land barons and financiers themselves - as if the system works the same for their little money and their paltry land holdings and their non-existent political influence save for one inconsequential vote every several years. All while the money masters gleefully support the false efforts of the unwashed masses and continue to feed the hysteria of wealth, the business of consumption, and the life of the time-fraught plebe.

Freedom costs exactly the same as accumulated fat. It is one or the other. Freedom must be defended. It costs time and effort. It requires a commitment to an ideal and gratitude for its success. It requires steadfast vigilance against the slightest threat. Freedom has to be defended from threats both foreign and domestic. How can that be done if it is a hate crime to point out the obvious? How can groups be 'special' if we are free? If they are 'special' and we are all free then does the specially designated have more or less of it?

To defend freedom requires the suspension of regular activities. It requires circling the wagons. It requires sacrifice. It might require loss of status and wealth. For those that have acquired much, these requirements are not an option. And so they are shackled by their largess.

The thing they think makes them free is the thing that keeps freedom forever out of reach. It need not be that way forever, but it needs to be that way right now. It will happen either way, anyway. Our freedoms are being taken away as we speak - and they will never return without a concerted resistance. But we could rise to the occasion, give up our shiny trinkets, and fight for freedom before it fades from our lives. Freedom to choose your profession and your lifetime earnings in the process is not freedom, it is tyranny disguised as choice.

We cannot look to our betters because they are fat. The system works for them and they have no interest in true freedom, where their status would most certainly suffer, as would their lifestyle.

Power is not given up freely, and one vote every several years changes nothing. Fat does not burn off on its own, and a single salad won't help. It takes commitment and perseverance with a clear goal for the future.

The cost of fat is freedom.

[thepainterdoug]

hi Ernie/ i do get you intent and observations. but how would one fix it? we live as a society which in my mind is an agreed upon set of rules for the benefit of the whole.

we are not as wild animals getting up everyday to kill , eat, survive and protect our property and home. we have laws that the majority seem to live by for our collective protection.

so we are naturally disconnected to certain realites we all benefit from. When you drive down a highway, you didnt build it, you didnt make the asphalt. who did? did they suffer in doing so?
the trash man comes in the early hours to remove the trash . do we know what he is going thru? is he being used by us?

so everyday we have become accustomed to living, without knowing the extensions we depend on.

i do my best on being mindful of all this everyday.
I just dont know how we can fix this issue other than living modestly and with gratitude

[Ernie Nemeth]

I think to fix a thing you first have to have a 'fix' on the thing. It is important to know the stakes and if a course of action is required it can be an informed decision.

It would have been easier to thwart the efforts of the globalists 60 years ago but the issue did not seem as urgent back then. Since then the push towards globalism has only intensified and accelerated. It came in small increments; it crept into our lives unbidden.

As an example, the sexual revolution shouldered its way into the puritanical living rooms of the masses through the media's new darling, the television. It did not explode onto the scene with explicit sex acts, no. The public had to be eased into the liberal norms of a global society, with a kiss here, a playful slap on the rump there, to off color innuendos, to suggestive sex scenes, to an exposed breast, and further and further to today's immodest offerings.

In the 60s, if a man and a woman were ever to have been caught on camera together on a bed in any position, including sitting on it, there would have been public outrage and most probably rioting in the streets. Imagine what would have happened if almost any regularly scheduled show from today was aired back then. People would have gone ballistic.

Here's the point - and they would not have put up with it either. They would have been outraged, and they would have gathered in numbers and marched to the capital if that's what it took. But they would not have stopped until they won, and rightly so.


To understand that the same way that they have trained our minds to be tolerant of liberal sexual deviancy, or dalliances if one prefers, is how they have trained us in many other aspects of our lives that we are not aware of at all, or maybe only peripherally and in passing.

We are enthralled by a system whose design is the purposeful manipulation of the human condition on planet earth.

Whether that system extends beyond this realm to include a larger reality remains to be seen. But the signs of the system and its intent are evident and the clues to its existence and scope become clear with systemic investigation.

Since we are under a spell, the spell must be broken. The only way that can happen is if some element of the truth sneaks up and hems the person in, so to speak, and the person is forced to face that truth and integrate it. Sometimes that trick can shock the person right out of the spell. The title of this thread and how the idea is twisted in an unanticipated direction hopefully strengthens the analogy and clarifies the message.

We have to drop this way of life before we consume the entire planet and turn it all into a giant garbage dump :-o

The globalists believe the best way to do that is to eliminate the vast majority of the human family. Our lives these last sixty years have been tabulated and assessed. The lists have been approved. The stock will be culled accordingly.


Given the severity of the consequences, the cost of doing nothing is too dear. With clouded eyes and befuddled mind the easy road seems cheery and bright but the easy road in fact leads to doom and annihilation.

If the cost of fat is freedom, if the cost of our modern lives is perpetual enslavement, is the trade-off equitable? That is the question.

If we want the benefits of this modern world to extend to the human family we must strive towards it with purposeful action. Right now the problem is the global corruption that hampers our ability to unite for a common cause with common sense.

The globalists have driven a wedge into the midst of the human family, as their goal is division.

A house divided cannot stand. We must unite.

That is how it gets fixed. By starting a dialogue rooted in the common cause, global corruption. That cause will mushroom out of control if it can gain traction. An open and honest discussion, with actionable reprisals and remedies, will lead to some very interesting solutions I am sure.

Including a new way, a better way, an inclusive way forward for all.

To fix this thing we must reject the narrative of division, but more importantly we have to value freedom enough to strive for it - at any and all cost.

The time is now. The key element is you! Break the spell of social antipathy and counter it with a solo epiphany.

At this time in this place the cost of fat is too high.

[Lunesoleil]

I would say that junk food is part of the lifestyle of many Americans and that tends to develop in France among young people. It is visible in the summer for girls with T-shirts stopping above the navel. New fashion to save a piece of fabric.
Eating well is now a budget to eat well, so junk food is basically a question of quality replaced by a quantity that compensates for a social and political problem.
Today 90% of the food in supermarkets is processed, which means that many consumers buy ready-to-eat food and no longer bother to cook, that is the real problem of our so-called modern society ...

[thepainterdoug]

Yes Lunesoleil, the answers are out there. they are always out there, for those who seek them.