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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura - Pentagon.

    Of course BUT its also important to root out and expose the lies, as for the passengers of 4 alleged hijacked planes, let me see, the controllers are nasty vicious bastards so giving them new identities and resettling them elsewhere would not be an option. Someone having a conscience might come forward and spoil things, so guess what they did? Thats right, they killed them, and kept the DNA in order to substantiate the official story and have 'proof' via the DNA samples that all 4 planes passengers were killed by nasty horrible terrorists.
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    unlike some, I'm not snarky by nature.
    but when a fellow PA gets personally pissy, the respect wains. ruff, ruff.

    as for the towers and building 7, frankly, not sure.
    but from everything I've viewed and read, to think that a hologram, haarp,
    some unknown trick of the eye caused it. that doesn't wash for me.
    I live near where the 'pilots' trained and it's an embarrassment that lingers.
    I've read lots about the physics of the towers collapse / 'powder' effect and
    that's very interesting to me, but still, something this massive, on such a grand scale with so many witnesses can't be explained using scifi.
    so to me, there are uncommon side effects that happen when the uncommon happens. that's what I think.

    my focus has been on the pentagon and those lost souls.
    it's part of the bigger story that can be more easily dissected and studied.

    so, to you it may always be a missile.
    to me, until irrefutable new proof, it was flight 77, carrying one of my favorite authors.
    and please don't accuse me of holding back progress towards a new 911 commission.
    free thinkers should be welcomed at PA.
    circumstantial evidence won't wash will something so big.
    so please, find an insider, whistle blower who will spill the beans.
    but until then, this whole thing will only sour your lives.

    and of course, I say all of this with respect and good will to all PAers.

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    Okay, then based on where the plane took off from, WHERE did TPB land that plane that would allow for NO witnesses to see them remove and kill the passengers, let alone see a huge plane?
    If you can find out where ELSE that plane would have landed, there you'd likely find the DNA, remains, etc... that would place the victims in another location. Wouldn't it be a little easier to prove where the plane was, than were the plane was not?

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    Perhaps we are getting into areas a wee bit too hot for this open forum with no checks on whom watches. 4 planes in all, 4 sets of passengers, thus allegedly 4 sets of DNA samples kept by the officials. Lets for one moment cool down this topic as I'd hate to see it stopped, and say the 2 sites that cause more conflict re plausibility, Pentagon and Shanksville, 2 sites, 2 planes, or rather NO planes, no debris, no bodies, nothing at either. Even forensics stated not a single drop of blood found at Shanksville, yet 'they' had all the passengers DNA. Hmmm, quite simply the crash was elsewhere, more likely, as we are keeping this COOL, it was diverted and passengers removed, you know their fate. I'm known for speaking too much and you know Kari what has happened to me before now by talking too much. So lets just cruise past this point and get back to jimmers fav pastime, accepting a blooming great jet hit the Pentagon.
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    Quote Posted by jimmer (here)
    unlike some, I'm not snarky by nature.
    but when a fellow PA gets personally pissy, the respect wains. ruff, ruff.

    as for the towers and building 7, frankly, not sure.
    but from everything I've viewed and read, to think that a hologram, haarp,
    some unknown trick of the eye caused it. that doesn't wash for me.
    I live near where the 'pilots' trained and it's an embarrassment that lingers.
    I've read lots about the physics of the towers collapse / 'powder' effect and
    that's very interesting to me, but still, something this massive, on such a grand scale with so many witnesses can't be explained using scifi.
    so to me, there are uncommon side effects that happen when the uncommon happens. that's what I think.

    my focus has been on the pentagon and those lost souls.
    it's part of the bigger story that can be more easily dissected and studied.

    so, to you it may always be a missile.
    to me, until irrefutable new proof, it was flight 77, carrying one of my favorite authors.
    and please don't accuse me of holding back progress towards a new 911 commission.
    free thinkers should be welcomed at PA.
    circumstantial evidence won't wash will something so big.
    so please, find an insider, whistle blower who will spill the beans.
    but until then, this whole thing will only sour your lives.

    and of course, I say all of this with respect and good will to all PAers.
    Well thats fine, jimmer accepts the plane hit, and 99% believe it did not due to overwhelming evidence. Lets leave it at that. You have experts stating the case and you choose to ignore, your right of course to accept or deny.
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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura - Pentagon.

    Yes, I know all too well what happens when you speak a little too much. So anyone but you would have to say it! lol.
    Not sure I want to either. Already had one grab attempt that I know of, and remote control of my vehicle while I was in it. Not something I want to see happen again. (Though they don't try to grab me for talking to much of these things, but for speaking of my gifts, and your artifact.)

    Yes, this subject is too hot for me, I think. Not the arguement of what hit the buildings, but the pain and hurt I still feel from it. 10 yrs later, and I still feel all the anguish of lost loved ones that I can't shut down. And is just as strong today as it was then. You probably feel that from me when I write here.

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    Quote Posted by SPIRIT WOLF (here)
    they killed them, and kept the DNA in order to substantiate the official story and have 'proof' via the DNA samples that all 4 planes passengers were killed by nasty horrible terrorists.
    I was going to give this a rest, but what's your evidence for all these murders?
    precisely, please.
    school me.

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    With all due respects jimmer, you are the last person I would risk in order to educate, you'll learn soon enough. Those that know me well can attest to what I have personally been thru with disclosures. This forum I do not wish to see 'cleansed', nor my personal safety placed in any harm, I've been thru enough. There will be a time when EVERYTHING is out in the open regarding many things, and after that I'll fade into the backgrounds and will not need to educate anyone anymore. I also was prepared to let you continue in your safety net but I'm a bugger for pushing and then my voice needs to carry on against better judgement. You would not accept it even if papers showing what occurred were shoved in your face so why should I bother?
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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura - Pentagon.

    Quote Posted by jimmer (here)
    I was going to give this a rest, but what's your evidence for all these murders?
    precisely, please.
    school me.
    jimmer you make me laugh...

    There is no proof or the card house would have already toppled...

    so you can either take it on faith that the Brits and American's have ultimate monsters controlling every action of the country...

    or you can sit back and say...


    show me...


    which will never happen...


    nobody would like to prove to you more than Spirit Wolf at this point...

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    I just read the the entire thread in one shot. Here's what I'm getting as a "pulse."

    Missile or Plane Crash?

    If a missle,who's missle? And who in the NWO actually did the financing behind launching it? Saudi's to blame Jews?(Chinese to get finger pointing going?) Jews to Blame Saudi's? U.S. covertly backed both sides.

    If a plane crashed into any(hologram NOT) or all the buildings,who's planes were they?
    Saudi's to blame Jews?(Chinese to get finger pointing?) Jews to blame Saudi's ?
    U.S. covertly backed both sides?

    My point? Does it REALLY matter WHAT hit the buildings? Did they REALLY get blown up by U.S. Covert operations or not? (Black OP dough goes along a LONG way on the good or bad side of spending,depending on what we want or need from that country,or group we support at the moment. We all know that)

    Did the families of the deceased get back "govenment approved" proof their family member is deceased?

    Creepy questions.

    I see none of the real questions addressed in this forum. Just WHAT HIT, NOT Who or WHY and are WE involved. (Probaly at some level,directly or indirectly)

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    Did'nt mean to single out Israel or Saudi's.. Meant Middle East and all our other double sided friends around the world that would gladly throw dough at blowing us up. Unfortunatly including us for profit and gain.

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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura - Pentagon.

    Quote Posted by jimmer (here)
    but from everything I've viewed and read, to think that a hologram, haarp,
    some unknown trick of the eye caused it. that doesn't wash for me.
    I don't think anyone with any credibility is suggesting this.

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    I don't think anyone with any credibility is suggesting this.
    Agreed! That is not even an issue

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    One member has suggested that this topic should veer away from what hit/did not hit and concentrate on what happened to the passengers. If we venture slowly along that road it might be a painful one for some, and no doubt will be hotly debated among members.
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    7 Years ago my daughter tried to tell me that it was us who did all this 9-11 crap and I laughed and said no way. Now since I woke up it seems so simple to see so I can understand where this is coming from. Iam done.

    The Axman
    So what we cant see means little to some souls on this planet.

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    Of course many will still buy the idea that inept terrorists miraculously did it all, died but strangely some were found to be alive and well elsewhere after the attacks. How convenient a paper passport, totally undamaged flew to the street when the plane was supposedly engulfed in flames within the tower. Awful bad luck that the engine photographed on the street was the wrong size too, but lets not split hairs!!
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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura - Pentagon.

    Question Barry, do you see any resemblance to Egg?
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    Hi Mike, love the avatar. Egg was a character that continued to prod prod prod with his finger and quite frankly was getting close to becoming a fried egg. Here its a different story, just someone whom for whatever reason does not want to even peek out of the box
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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura - Pentagon.

    Most records of historical events get twisted in their own times, not to speak about later days.

    Maybe 2 or 300 years later the event will be noted in school books as 'Battle for Pentagon'

    Which is a great reminder again of how little we understand about the reality of past and accuracy of each statements that can be subscribed to each historians knowledge, political opinions etc.

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    Lol just stop, my bellies' hurting....

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