Apollo 20

[Studeo]

TV Feed from the lunar module LM-15 during the last revolution before descent. LM passes over Tsiolkovski, Fermi, Delporte and Lukte before passing on the Izsak Y crater. The spaceship is filmed with close telephoto lens, revealing more details. CDR communicates the South -East coordinates of the major parts of the spaceship, approximately 4 kilometers long. Color distortions are caused by the rotating wheel inside the Westinghouse Color TV

http://www.u-subjects.nl/index.php/v...ding-apollo-20

Apollo 20 EBE Mona Lisa TV Unscheduled Transmission

http://www.u-subjects.nl/index.php/v...d-transmission

Other youtube videos regarding Apollo 20

https://youtube.com/results?searc...apollo+20&aq=f

[Ammit]

Ok, the first one just looked too unusual for something on the moon, and the ebe one, well ok...
Thanks for posting though.

[Studeo]

To be honest, I don't think there was an Apollo 20. So I don't know what mission this is from. Maybe 15? But still a good story, that's for sure.

[Bomack]

Posted by Studeo (here)
To be honest, I don't think there was an Apollo 20. So I don't know what mission this is from. Maybe 15? But still a good story, that's for sure.

Hi Studio,

This was actually a very interesting story. It was brought to light by one William Rutledge on YouTube (user name retiredafb) which stirred intense debate. A fairly good synopsis of the story can be found here:

The Apollo 20 Controversy http://www.mercuryrapids.co.uk/artic...versy-14012008

Italian journalist Luca Scantamburlo interviewed William Rutledge via YouTube Private Mail and you can read the interview in it's entirety here:

AN ALIEN SPACESHIP ON THE MOON: INTERVIEW WITH
WILLIAM RUTLEDGE, MEMBER OF THE APOLLO 20 CREW
http://www.angelismarriti.it/ANGELIS...amRutledge.htm

As a side note, Project Camelot interviewed Luca Scantamburlo in Feb. 2008. But in this interview there was no mention of William Rutledge's story:

Luca Scantamburlo : The Return of Planet X
http://projectcamelot.org/luca_scantamburlo.html

I do not know Bill's take on this story, as I have never heard or seen him mention it, but I wouldn't mind hearing it! Yes it's laden with disinfo and even downright untruths, but it also contains many kernels of truth of which I am personally aware of.

BTW, most of retiredafb's videos (what's left of them) have been moved over to:
http://www.revver.com/u/retiredafb/


Enjoy!

Bob

[jimmer]

now that's entertainment.
I agree, apollo 20 was scrubbed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canceled_Apollo_missions

the films/videos are elaborate, fantastic and expertly fabricated IMHO.
although, the 'moon city' scene does look pretty 'george pal-like' (flat illustration) to me.

[Fredkc]

Bomack;
It was brought to light by one William Rutledge on YouTube (user name retiredafb) which stirred intense debate.

I went to Scantamburlo's site and read the interview.

Interestingly I went to EewToob and found "retiredafb". He had only one video which it says has been "removed by user". sigh...

While Rutledge does not come off as a poser, I worry about his videos, and such coming from 3rd parties.
He would make a great interview, I should think.
Fred

[Bomack]

Posted by jimmer (here)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canceled_Apollo_missions

I also use Wikipedia as a starting point when I wish to research most new (to me) subjects, but I am careful to never base my opinions solely on the information provided. This is why:

From the top of Wikipedia's Main Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Welcome to Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

And from Wikipedia's About Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About

Wikipedia is written collaboratively by largely anonymous Internet volunteers who write without pay. Anyone with Internet access can write and make changes to Wikipedia articles (except in certain cases where editing is restricted to prevent disruption and/or vandalism). Users can contribute anonymously, under a pseudonym, or with their real identity, if they choose. Every contribution may be reviewed or changed. The expertise or qualifications of the user are usually not considered. This is possible since Wikipedia's intent is to cover existing knowledge which is verifiable from other sources. Original research and ideas which have not appeared in other sources are therefore excluded. People of all ages and cultural and social backgrounds can write Wikipedia articles as most of the articles can be edited by anyone with access to the Internet simply by clicking the edit link (found at the top of every editable page). Anyone is welcome to add information, cross-references, or citations, as long as they do so within Wikipedia's editing policies and to an appropriate standard. Substandard or disputed information is subject to removal. Users need not worry about accidentally damaging Wikipedia when adding or improving information, as other editors are always around to advise or correct obvious errors, and Wikipedia's software is carefully designed to allow easy reversal of editorial mistakes.

Lots of people do not know or understand this about Wikipedia so they take whatever they read there as gospel. Many times I have seen info inaccurately stated. But more often than not I have seen where information has not been stated, or possibly even omitted. So whenever you want to research a new subject it's a good idea to keep this in mind. Sorry for the long explanation on Wikipedia, but (for me anyway) it's an important thing to remember!

Posted by jimmer (here)
I agree, apollo 20 was scrubbed.

This is one of the points that is highly debatable. NASA is an agency created by the United States government, responsible for the nation's civilian space program and aeronautics and aerospace research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA). However, it is overseen by the gov. If anything new is discovered, and they decide they don't want the public to know about it, all they have to do is deem it in the interest of national security and then the gov (military) can "commandeer" the program (This is even stated in NASA's CHARTER under SECURITY: http://www.nasa.gov/offices/ogc/abou....html#SECURITY). They do this all the time. So knowing this one can easily imagine how Apollo's 19 and 20 COULD HAVE occurred covertly under the command of the Air Force, and of course NASA (the civilian space program) would simply proclaim the missions "CANCELED". Interesting huh? :-)

Also something to think about: Apollo 20 was supposedly a joint Soviet-American mission to investigate this ship on the moon, and (for me) it's very interesting to note that Apollo 18 was cancelled (interesting info here: http://www.astronautix.com/flights/apollo18.htm) and re-designated the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA#Manned_programs. The ASTP, which was highly covered in the public light, was the first joint flight of the U.S. and Soviet space programs. It was basically billed to the public as a "Goodwill" mission but it's actual mission was to familiarize each other on how things are done so that they could fly future missions together. THAT was Apollo 18 (re-designated) . . . and then Apollo's 19 and 20 were CANCELLED!

Posted by jimmer (here)
the films/videos are elaborate, fantastic and expertly fabricated IMHO.
although, the 'moon city' scene does look pretty 'george pal-like' (flat illustration) to me.

There was a lot of dis-info mixed into this story and this was one of them. This might be expected in any disclosure, mainly to protect the witness.

This is only the basics jimmer. It's a very fascinating story, so I want to caution you that once you get started you will lose a good portion of your life! LOL! The jury is still out on this one, and the witness has seemingly "disappeared"!

Bob

[Bomack]

Posted by Fredkc (here)
Interestingly I went to EewToob and found "retiredafb". He had only one video which it says has been "removed by user". sigh...

While Rutledge does not come off as a poser, I worry about his videos, and such coming from 3rd parties.

Hi Fred! Good to hear from you!

This statement was made by him in his ABOUT ME section of his Tube webpage something like two years ago:

https://youtube.com/user/retiredafb

I have too many problems with youtube who never answer my questions, the new videos will be online an another site www.revver.com, they are already there, and the new ones , the most important soon.
My account and messages, have been spoofed many weeks ago. Some messages have been fakened, my messages send since august are not written by my hand. Thoses messages included the special linguistic marks i placed usually. Some people oppened accounts using my name, tried to spoof email boxes, closed some videos, send invitationson youtube etc... To those who did the job; congratulations, you are well paid .
I closed my two rwandacell Mtn numbers. I'll open a site in cocoa island and put some other new videos here. I'm searching an old 2 inches video player to grab the eva sounds.

After he made that statement he never logged on again, until about six months ago. He (or someone) logged on to his account, changed his profile icon, and that was it. Very mysterious. So you're right about wondering who's controlling this info now. Most (not all) of his videos are now on Revver.com under retiredafb, but sorry to say that Revver.com works even worse than PA2 was working in the beginning.

If people are interested, I can see about getting some of them posted here.

Posted by Fredkc (here)
He would make a great interview, I should think.

I have a feeling Bill could make a career out of this one! LOL! But I have a feeling CMDR Rutledge is now gone, or at the very least in hiding.

BTW Fred, Luca Scantamburlo has a thread on PA1 (as user talianfreelancer74) titled APOLLO 19 COMMANDER SPEAKS OUT - an interview by Luca Scantamburlo (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2182) The thread never seen much activity, but then it seems that Luca never returned after making his initial post. I don't think he's a PA2 member, but it would be great to have him back on here. He is a very nice and extremely polite man (We have exchanged emails briefly).

Apollo 20 is now an old story. But as I said before, the jury is still out. And there are HUNDREDS of people waiting for more from retiredafb!

[Fredkc]

Thanks for all of that, Bomack.

Unfortunately Steven suckered me into re-reading the old Krill documents.
But as soon as I get that off my screen, I will go have a look.

Fred

[Studeo]

Posted by Bomack (here)
Hi Fred! Good to hear from you!

This statement was made by him in his ABOUT ME section of his Tube webpage something like two years ago:

https://youtube.com/user/retiredafb


After he made that statement he never logged on again, until about six months ago. He (or someone) logged on to his account, changed his profile icon, and that was it. Very mysterious. So you're right about wondering who's controlling this info now. Most (not all) of his videos are now on Revver.com under retiredafb, but sorry to say that Revver.com works even worse than PA2 was working in the beginning.

If people are interested, I can see about getting some of them posted here.



I have a feeling Bill could make a career out of this one! LOL! But I have a feeling CMDR Rutledge is now gone, or at the very least in hiding.

BTW Fred, Luca Scantamburlo has a thread on PA1 (as user talianfreelancer74) titled APOLLO 19 COMMANDER SPEAKS OUT - an interview by Luca Scantamburlo (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2182) The thread never seen much activity, but then it seems that Luca never returned after making his initial post. I don't think he's a PA2 member, but it would be great to have him back on here. He is a very nice and extremely polite man (We have exchanged emails briefly).

Apollo 20 is now an old story. But as I said before, the jury is still out. And there are HUNDREDS of people waiting for more from retiredafb!

Hi all. Loving the feedback on this subject. Here's the link on www.revver.com for user retiredafb.

http://www.revver.com/find/video/?qu...arch_on=search

[Bomack]

Hey Studeo, thanks.

Since Revver is so unreliable I'm putting all of his videos up on my 'Tube channel. They're scattered all over 'tube anyway, so this way they'll all be in one place and I can link them to here, if that's OK with you. I didn't mean to hijack your thread!

Bob

[Studeo]

Posted by Bomack (here)
Hey Studeo, thanks.

Since Revver is so unreliable I'm putting all of his videos up on my 'Tube channel. They're scattered all over 'tube anyway, so this way they'll all be in one place and I can link them to here, if that's OK with you. I didn't mean to hijack your thread!

Bob

Dosen't worry me in the least, truly. I'm far from being an expert in these matters. I just post what interests me and any input is welcome. To learn is to live.

[Bomack]

One of Nasa's Attempts to Hide Alien Spacecraft
From retiredafb posted on 01-18-2008:

In the late 70's, nasa tried to hide alien artifacts. When you try to download this Apollo 17 spacecraft picture, you get a complete low-res photography: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...e/?AS17-M-2806. If you want to get the hires print photography, you get this one: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...ages/print/AS1... Apollo 15 used 4*5 inches silver negatives. No flight problem or scanner distorsion can justify such a mess. A natural negative problem is this one; end of a magazin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...e/?AS15-M-0113. In late 70's nasa couldn't anticipate public internet ,so , it's a nice bad disinformation attempt.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pWyhQsMztRc

Alien Spaceship on The Moon Stills From Apollo 20
From retiredafb posted on 01-18-2008:

3 stills metric photography made by alexei leonov during the last revolution before descent on the Izsak Y Crater. More details visible than the apollo 15 panoramic shot. ( http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...e/?AS15-P-9625 ) Check also the flyover TV feed during this revolution

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ORuIuV8OHUA

Apollo 15 and 17 Search For the Spaceship
From retiredafb posted on 01-18-2008:

Apollo 15 made the discovery CDR scott did these shots. Apollo 17 made the shots preparing the landing site choice. These pictures can be found on the official nasa apollo atlas at http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...atalog/metric/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BU2jx0UmZ-Y

Apollo 20 Legacy Part 1 The City
From retiredafb posted on 01-18-2008:

apollo 20, august 1976 mission went to the Delporte-Izsak part of the moon. Despite the classified files, the apollo 20 belongs to all mankind It is a part of all human's heritage. Among the treasures found during the mission; the city, the spacecraft, the EBE mona lisa. Depending on the interest of viewers, i'll post 22 hours of tv transmissions from moon. Proofs that we are not alone, if there is still necessity to proove it. Nasa and USAF will be forced to tell the whole story before september 2007. If i do not post these files now, i'll never do it. This first part is an extract of the lunar rover transmission at mission elapsed time 140 , around iszak D, showing the city. Those who want to have the definitive opinion, verify the possibility of hoax can verify on the nasa server , search as15 - 9625 and as15-9630 pictures who show the spaceship, http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...e/?AS15-P-9625 Please spread the word , the link on newsgroups

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=g9Aqb9f2uKQ

APOLLO 20 ALIEN SPACESHIP ON THE MOON CSM FLYOVER
From retiredafb posted on 01-18-2008:

CSM 16mm footage through the AGC lens, made by Leona Snyder $& lunar orbit revolutions. Camera is fixed on the eyepiece of the telescope, less dropouts or moves than the Tv feed from the LM. Frame transfer is not perfect,speed is faster than actual, 4 different speeds were used on the 16 mm camera. The landing site is visible on the lower right part in the first lunar sequence. sorry for the first viewers and commenters, i had to upload again with a better codec.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7ivzOnVqqnQ

Apollo 20 Legacy Liftoff of Apollo 20 Saturne 5
From retiredafb posted on 01-18-2008:

APOLLO 20 Legacy Lift off of Apollo 20 saturn 5 from Vandenberg AFB august 16 1976. Note the marks on the rocket, different than the previous apollo launches. "carpent tua poma nepotes" check my account, the big apollo 20 files wil be posted soon, especially the most important

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rGhuY6osAao

[Bomack]

APOLLO 20 Important Data About Nibiru Approaching . . .
From retiredafb posted on 01-28-2008:

Where is Nibiru, where to look at.... Some publications spoke about nibiru perihelion for December 21 , 2012. This is not false but two critical phases are scheduled for september 2012 and April 2013. Here is the adress of Nibiru with the most accurate datas avaiable in the beginning of 2008.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IdO0aGQTLic

[Bomack]

Apollo 20 Launch Feed Stage 1 and Interstaging Unit Separation
From retiredafb posted on 01-28-2008:

Separation of stage one an interstage unit, the USAF and CCCP markings are slightly visible on some pictures.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3j8Rn68jfNc

Alien Spaceship on The Moon Flyover Before Landing Apollo 20
From retiredafb posted on 01-29-2008:

TV Feed from the lunar module LM-15 during the last revolution before descent. LM passes over Tsiolkovski, Fermi, Delporte and Lukte before passing on the Izsak Y crater. The spaceship is filmed with close telephoto lens, revealing more details. CDR communicates the South -East coordinates of the major parts of the spaceship, approximately 4 kilometers long. Color distortions are caused by the rotating wheel inside the Westinghouse Color TV Camera.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-F2QN_GFbAo

Apollo 20 EBE. Mona Lisa 16 mm Film
From retiredafb posted on 04-07-2008:

APOLLO 20 E.B.E. Mona Lisa 16 mm film shot inside Lunar Module.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3sLVgUgytmE

Apollo 20 EBE Mona Lisa TV Unscheduled Transmission
From retiredafb posted on 04-08-2008:

APOLLO 20 E.B.E. Mona Lisa TV unscheduled transmission made from the LM.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hEvwDkP2GFg

[Bomack]

"moonwalker1966delta" speaks out

Later on another YouTube user - by the name of "moonwalker1966delta" - has been beginning to spread alleged classified short videos about Apollo 20 mission. The discussion I present to you in this report is an interview I arranged from questions and answers accomplished by YouTube Account/General Messages. I sent my questions to his account on August 14, 2008, after some contacts by YouTube taken place since May 2008, in which he had already revealed:

1) to be a former NASA astronaut;
2) to be the (survived) Apollo 19 Commander (CMDR), and that <<since William decided to tell the truth>>, he thinks <<it's the right moment to do the same>>.

Moreover - on July 24, 2008 - in another message he disclosed his alleged identity, with name, surname and his former space missions as astronaut for NASA. I prefer not revealing it - as he has suggested - until more and new elements will be disclosed at last.
If "moonwalker1966delta" has told me the truth about his identity and this will be confirmed, his courageous gesture could change forever the human history and our perspective of humanity's role in the Universe. The Pentagon, NASA and the Russian Government - in my humble opinion - could take advantage of the revelation: helping to widen mankind horizons in every dimension, both physical and spiritual, and helping to stop the energy crisis, could improve the US and Russia reputations, and to level the current divergences among Mosca and Washington.
As I have already written in a former report, It would be a good thing to disclose and spread the truth about the reality of the extraterrestrial intelligence in the Universe, through an unknown historical fact in which the two great powers of the World of the past (the USA and the USSR) joined together for scientific and peaceful activities, in spite of all their differences and political hostilities.
As pointed out by William Rutledge in one of his comments on YouTube: <<[…] the apollo 20 belongs to all mankind It is a part of all human's heritage>>.

Virgilio wrote: <<Carpent tua poma nepotes>>. The Apollo 20 patch quotes it. Maybe we are those grandchildren…

© L. Scantamburlo - www.angelismarriti.it
Reproduced by permission.



The following videos were furnished by moonwalker 1966delta.

[Bomack]

Apollo 20 EVA 1
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 02-25-2008:

EVA-1 William Rutledge and LM shot by Leonov during EVA-1.Voices by Rutledge and Leonov communicating to Houston about Phoenix's hatch latching problem. Communications are all by Tyros satellite

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HBwHZJpbhX8

Apollo 20 Snyder Ingress
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 09-14-2007:

Leona Snyder and Leonov entering Apollo 20 CSM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LgVPG0wnGf0

Apollo 20 Mixed Footage
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 01-18-2008:

3 different views of Apollo 20 mission's LEM from top of a hill,close view and unknown view of part of the LEM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ciO9QqHTt68

Apollo 20 Preparing For DPI
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 02-12-2008:

Shots by Leonov during phase of preparing for DPI.Sunrise on the Moon.Original sound with W.Rutledge's voice talking to Vandemberg Mission Control

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SzNNlVtleeo

Apollo 19 Launch
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 11-20-2009:

Vandeberg Air Force Base Complex 6 Apollo 19 launch. February the 2nd 1976 05.30 AM Western time.The only Apollo launch with a yellow tower and no NASA signs on the rocket as for Apollo 20

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nKQ-OhoyEd0

Apollo 19 Incident
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 11-09-2008:

Apollo 19 just hit by something and loosing telemetry data.Fire and smoke on AC-BC cell bus and aborting mission after TLI insertion

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qDimf-fYZSg

Apollo 20 EVA 2 On The Way To The Mothership
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 07-04-2009:

No audio because encrypted and transmitted separately

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fhcVsYtCQCY

Apollo 20 Alien Moonbase
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 11-19-2009:

View of an alien moonbase marked by Apollo 17 crew and filmed by Apollo 20 passing over Taurus Litthrow before landing.Rutledge's and Leonov's voices.Original audio.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4UR_gpeOlEE

Apollo 20 EVA 3 External View Of The Triangular Shaped Spacecraft
From moonwalker 1966delta posted on 11-20-2009:

External view of the triangular shaped spacecraft.Audio encrypted.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KPmTllYIUKY

[Zepheriah]

Awesome work there Bomack, thank you greatly for posting all of this up. My jury is still out on this one, though i am sitting at about 95% sure its not genuine, the 5% thats left is thinking about just why anyone would go to such lengths to hoax this.

If it is a hoax then its very well perpetrated. Some of these vids, the hatch problem one for example, are very convinving indeed, yet some, like the mona lisa vids are just a bit too clean looking. Those two vids certainly don't look like they come from a camera of the time.

I'm still pretty sure its a hoax though, like someone further up said, its going to be pretty hard to launch a Saturn V without anyone noticing.

[jimmer]

pure entertainment.
fun to watch, but designed to be obscure, with little to none recognizable hard information.

videos like these remind me that there are people who pride themselves
of their superior intelligence to lie and deceive with believability (ted bundy like).
it's a game to them.
if caught in their lies, they say, well, I did it to create conservation, to spark your imagination, etc.

in reality, this stuff muddies the real truths we're seeking, produced by languid, criminal minds.
sorry that sounds harsh, but it's deserved.
if I'm wrong, where the hard facts and evidence?

[The One]

Above photos are from Apollo Image Atlas=NASA website

While looking at the NASA Apollo Image Atlas I noticed this long UFO in one of the craters. Now this is an official NASA photo in their archives and thus cannot be disputed or debunked. Look at the photos below of the long ancient spaceship in this photo. I also wrote about this ship in both my books Dragons of Asgard and UFO Sightings of 2006-2011. I my UFO book I wrote an entire chapter on it. Look at these photos.


If you have doubts that this UFO mother ship exists please visit the NASA page at LINK`http`www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-P-9625`line-height: 1.2em; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 153); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial;`LINK http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...e/?AS15-P-9625 and look at the center area of the photo. To better see it copy and paste to your computer and enlarge it 2-5 times.

It is amazing isn't it? You see, the Apollo missions were suppose to go to 20 or 21, but due to budget cuts they stopped at Apollo 17 moon mission. The truth is...they did Apollo missions 18-20 as covertly as possible. It is said that the Apollo 20 mission went inside this mothership and harvested the technology that they could find, including its alien pilot who was naked, but covered in clear wax like coating. They said she was not dead and not living, but in between. She was found attached to the pilot controls with several hoses going into her body.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uEBetiMWDCY

These videos were from the Apollo 20 mission. Apollo 20 was a covert Apollo missions to the moon to retrieve ancient alien technology. I'll be the first to admit this really seems ridiculous on first glance, but if you do a little research into William Rutledge's story, then you begin to see that NASA has been hiding the truth for a long time, editing what we are allowed to know and not know.

Below video is a close up of the mothership in Deporte crater, these videos were released by William Rutledge, an astronaut on the Apollo mission who now lives in Rwanda

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y3X5oucqQe4

This video below shows the ancient abandoned city on the moons surface that they found, all these videos were released by USAF Astronaut William Rutledge, a brave man

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bf1G8JAGzt8

link http://beforeitsnews.com/story/677/7...ook_Place.html