Black Eyed Children - Very Creepy

[Roisin]

Oh no, the joker is much older than those images that you are showing here buares. The harlequin is just another version of the grinning man phenomenon. But at any rate, we are not talking about medieval court jesters here.

[sigma6]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by sigma6 (here)
So you just come on conspiracy sites to promote your web site?...

Sorry to disappoint you sigma6 but I don't have a website...

Posted by sigma6 (here)
literally hundreds of individual eye witness accounts over a span of decades

Again, I'm sorry I missed that many eye witness accounts.

Still, there is no proof of black eyed children that I know of. I'll be happy to change my mind if you can provide one.

Nothing to feel sorry for, you just live in an unimaginably small world...

[Atlas]

@Roisin. You were talking about the batman series.

Kane, Finger, and Robinson all disagreed until the days they died about who exactly created the Joker.

See: How the Joker Was Created

[Atlas]

Posted by sigma6 (here)
Nothing to feel sorry for, you just live in an unimaginably small world...

Then you must live in an unimaginably large world. Good for you!

[sigma6]

Posted by Roisin (here)
We confront the phenomenon by looking for those similarities between each encounter. By doing that, it allows us to put the pieces of the puzzle together to be able to look at the larger picture and maybe even get some kind of message that they are trying to convey to us.

For example, in those stories involving the black-eyed children, notice that in most of the stories on that, the children are polite and are asking permission to come into the house to use the phone to call their "mother". Or they are asking permission to enter the house to get out of the cold or the rain. In most of these stories, they are asking for permission to enter. They are not aggressive and are not forcing themselves into those homes. So what could this pattern tell us? Perhaps that "they" the "others" only "enter" when the percipient "invites" them in. That there is some rule out there that these intelligences only "enter" after asking permission to do that where they are hoping that the person they asked that to then invites them in.

So this means that there is even danger for those of us curious ones who seek to study and analyze such phenomena. Because by even setting things up to analyze it more, this has the potential of unwittingly "inviting" them "in".

That is precisely the point, the idea of free will and mutual consent is not just a legal concept poorly administered and abused by a corrupt and dysfunctional bureaucracy. It has origins in the most ancient philosophical principles. It is universal. The idea of might is right, is the saga of man throughout the ages, and clearly doesn't even work for man... Yet there is this never ending addiction, something that makes man so short sighted and keeps him coming back, like a dog to it's barf to attempt it over and over again... too complex to analyze, existential fear, anxiety, man's built in suggestibility, to be hypnotized and programmed. We are the most "programmable" species on the planet... this is a dual edge sword. We must program ourselves or we will be susceptible to the "programming" of others... I really think that is an absolute principle that needs to be wholly accepted and embraced... (which of course leads right to philosophy... so choose your "program" ... and choose wisely... ; )

Fundamentally I also believe something like what ulli is suggesting, and what John Lash also suggested, i.e. there is a subtle line between our conscious will and intentions, how our 'mind' affects our experience. If there be these archontic entities, Lash says for one, they cannot invade earth, otherwise they would have been dealt with a long time ago. So technically they are not a direct threat. And they are not so malicious as they are envious, therefore any "maliciousness" is really our own projection. They covet, they are more curious... at the same time they are not entirely free will entities. These are hard to grasp concepts even for people who study philosophy psychology or consider themselves devout worshippers. The more I study it, the more questions and 'gray areas' I find... many 'fine lines'. And it kind of makes sense that it is usually people who are curious (as I am to a "certain degree") who seek out such experiences that find them! And now this has been established with Bigfoots. But of course it makes sense... Intelligence must be applied when seeking out other intelligences! (no offence buares...)

A corollary is if we are tired, inebriated or in an altered state of consciousness where our faculty of reason is greatly 'relaxed' we are making ourselves more susceptible to these 'intrusions' (why alcohol is called "spirits") All these things interest me, because they seem to tie into other ideas about man's free will, that it is more than just a "man made" idea, that it is a universal concept apart from man, that it was here before man could understand it properly himself...

Therefore we have 'intelligences' some seemingly robotic and insect like, making specific requests. Requesting the establishment of a trust, while at the same time presenting some aspect of falsehood. It has elements of a logic test imo. It needs something from you. Yet at the same time, it seems so limited in it's ability regarding its own resources, in terms of physical appearance, social sophistication, there is a huge emphasis on mental influence, as if the physical social aspect is secondary, almost a diversion. On some level the entity must be aware of this, the biggest factor is the mental issue, this is more about mental than physical...

and I quote: (biblical "philosophy" if that makes it more palatable... lol)
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
boiled down to its most empirical meaning: there is something out there... and it's not flesh and blood... end of story...

I would like to see a re-analysis of the research to evaluate more of the peripheral factors, like time of day, year, astrological events in relation to the individual like ullie suggests, weather, geoposition... and other factors about the individuals themselves, their belief systems, psychological characteristics, their 'psychic affinity'... what mental states and emotional levels, before during and after... there is a missing key somewhere...

[sigma6]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by sigma6 (here)
Nothing to feel sorry for, you just live in an unimaginably small world...

Then you must live in an unimaginably large world. Good for you!

Infinite, in fact...

[Atlas]

Posted by sigma6 (here)
if we are tired, inebriated or in an altered state of consciousness where our faculty of reason is greatly 'relaxed' we are making ourselves more susceptible to these 'intrusions' (why alcohol is called "spirits")

FYI: The term "spirit" in reference to alcohol stems from Middle Eastern alchemy. These alchemists were more concerned with medical elixirs than with transmuting lead into gold. The vapor given off and collected during an alchemical process (as with distillation of alcohol) was called a spirit of the original material.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distill...rage#Etymology

[sigma6]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by sigma6 (here)
if we are tired, inebriated or in an altered state of consciousness where our faculty of reason is greatly 'relaxed' we are making ourselves more susceptible to these 'intrusions' (why alcohol is called "spirits")

FYI: The term "spirit" in reference to alcohol stems from Middle Eastern alchemy. These alchemists were more concerned with medical elixirs than with transmuting lead into gold. The vapor given off and collected during an alchemical process (as with distillation of alcohol) was called a spirit of the original material.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distill...rage#Etymology

I would challenge you to look deeper... it's an illusion to think everything only has one definition or one meaning or one reason...

[Pris]

Posted by Roisin (here)
We confront the phenomenon by looking for those similarities between each encounter. By doing that, it allows us to put the pieces of the puzzle together to be able to look at the larger picture and maybe even get some kind of message that they are trying to convey to us.

For example, in those stories involving the black-eyed children, notice that in most of the stories on that, the children are polite and are asking permission to come into the house to use the phone to call their "mother". Or they are asking permission to enter the house to get out of the cold or the rain. In most of these stories, they are asking for permission to enter. They are not aggressive and are not forcing themselves into those homes. So what could this pattern tell us? Perhaps that "they" the "others" only "enter" when the percipient "invites" them in. That there is some rule out there that these intelligences only "enter" after asking permission to do that where they are hoping that the person they asked that to then invites them in.

So this means that there is even danger for those of us curious ones who seek to study and analyze such phenomena. Because by even setting things up to analyze it more, this has the potential of unwittingly "inviting" them "in".

This made me think of (one of my all time favourite movies) 'The Lost Boys', where the vampire couldn't enter the house until Michael invited him in. Shuddddder....

[sigma6]

Posted by Pris (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
We confront the phenomenon by looking for those similarities between each encounter. By doing that, it allows us to put the pieces of the puzzle together to be able to look at the larger picture and maybe even get some kind of message that they are trying to convey to us.

For example, in those stories involving the black-eyed children, notice that in most of the stories on that, the children are polite and are asking permission to come into the house to use the phone to call their "mother". Or they are asking permission to enter the house to get out of the cold or the rain. In most of these stories, they are asking for permission to enter. They are not aggressive and are not forcing themselves into those homes. So what could this pattern tell us? Perhaps that "they" the "others" only "enter" when the percipient "invites" them in. That there is some rule out there that these intelligences only "enter" after asking permission to do that where they are hoping that the person they asked that to then invites them in.

So this means that there is even danger for those of us curious ones who seek to study and analyze such phenomena. Because by even setting things up to analyze it more, this has the potential of unwittingly "inviting" them "in".

This made me think of (one of my all time favourite movies) 'The Lost Boys', where the vampire couldn't enter the house until Michael invited him in. Shuddddder....

LOL, or Colin Farrell in Fright night, that is classic vampire lore and part of the weirdness of "black eyed children" they share characteristics of many entities, vampires, men in black (the alien ones) grays, archons...

[Roisin]

I would like to see a re-analysis of the research to evaluate more of the peripheral factors, like time of day, year, astrological events in relation to the individual like ullie suggests, weather, geoposition... and other factors about the individuals themselves, their belief systems, psychological characteristics, their 'psychic affinity'... what mental states and emotional levels, before during and after... there is a missing key somewhere...

You and ullie may find the following interesting:
http://www.jsasoc.com/


Apparent Association Between Effect Size In Free Response Anomalous
Cognition Experiments And Local Sidereal Time
S. James P. Spottiswoode
Cognitive Sciences Laboratory, Palo Alto, CA 94301

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Abstract
Nothing is known about the physical mechanism of anomalous cognition (AC), or ESP. A first step towards generating focused hypotheses would be the discovery of a physical parameter which clearly modulated AC performance. In this paper, an association between the local sidereal time (LST) at which a trial occurs and the resulting effect size is described. In an existing database of 1,468 free response trials, the effect size increased 340% for trials within 1 hour of 13.5 h LST (p = 0.001). A independent database of 1,015 similar trials was subsequently obtained in which trials within 1 hour of 13.5 h LST showed an effect size increase of 450% (p = 0.05) providing confirmation of the effect. Possible artifacts due to the non-uniform distribution of trials in clock time and variations of effect size with experiment are discussed and rejected as explanations. Assuming that some unknown systematic bias is not present in the data, it appears that AC performance is strongly dependent upon the LST at which the trial occurs. This is evidence of a causal connection between performance and the orientation of the receiver (i.e., a term for subject or participant), the earth and the fixed stars.
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Here's the pdf file of that study http://www.jsasoc.com/docs/JSE-LST.pdf

The summary below of that study is from http://atransc.org/techniques/sidereal_time.htm

This article described what may be an important discovery about nonphysical phenomena, especially as it relates to transcommunication and other kinds of anomalous phenomena. In the study, Spottiswoode examined the rather large collection of psychic ability experiments he had conducted over the years to see if they pointed to a relationship between sidereal time and the psychic proficiency of his subjects. There was a direct relationship! He then asked colleagues to conduct a new set of experiments to confirm his conclusions. The results, and therefore the phenomena, were verified.

Sidereal time is star time and a sidereal day is approximately 3 minutes, 56 seconds shorter than a solar day. Thus, Local Sidereal Time (LST) moves backward in solar time about four minutes a day, two hours a month and one day a year. Anywhere you are on the planet, at the same LST you will see the same stars overhead as anyone anywhere else will at that time.

The essence of the article we are referring to is that scientists have found a direct correlation between the sidereal time of day and success in psychic ability experiments. The graph shown on this page is from Spottiswoode's article and depicts “Effect Size” on the vertical axis and “Local Sidereal Time” on the horizontal axis. “Effect Size” is the amount of deviation more or less than the expected normal for chance. The horizontal line between 0.1 and 0.2 represents the average of the graph curve. The line at 0.0 represents what would be expected with guessing. We have added a vertical, dotted line at 13.5 hours and near 19.0 hours.

To quote the report, “Evidence has been given to support a relationship between the local sidereal time at which an anomalous cognition experiment occurs and the resulting effect size. The primary association is an approximately four-fold enhancement in AC effect size at 13.5 h LST. [Anomalous Cognition (AC)” seems to be a new term for Extra Sensory Perception (ESP)—Editor] This association was found in one large data set and confirmed in another, each set comprising AC experiments with a range of free response protocols, from different laboratories and investigators. It is likely that the increase of effect size for AC trials occurring at 13.5 h LST is real, replicable across different laboratories and occurs in the diverse protocols of the ganzfeld and remote viewing experiments.”

Psi functioning seems to be a real human ability, but while it is often reported anecdotally, there has been considerable difficulty proving under controlled conditions. It may be that this difficulty has been due to the fact that researchers have been conducting experiments at different sidereal times of day. Almost a six-fold difference in performance of a psychic between 13.5 h and 18.9 h LST is substantial. And remember, 13.5 hours LST changes in solar time each day.



The evidence suggests that there is something near or beyond the edge of the Solar System that is influencing our psychic ability.

Besides explaining why psychic phenomena is so hard to prove, the reason the discovery of this relationship may be important to the study of transcommunication is that it points to an external influence on psychic ability. It should be just a matter of time before someone figures out what that influence is and what in the human brain it is influencing. Once that has been accomplished, it should be possible to enhance psychic ability with technology.

You can use an online Sidereal Time Calculator and a good downloadable clock for your computer at www.radiosky.com/sidclockdownload.html.

Source, Apparent Association between Effect Size in Free Response Anomalous Cognition Experiments and Local Sidereal Time, by S. James P. Spottiswoode, published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. II, No. 2, 1997. You can find it at jsasoc.com.

[Roisin]

Here's another study done by the Cognitive Science Laboratory:

Anomalous Cognition Effect Size: Dependence on
Sidereal Time and Solar Wind Parameters
by
S. James P. Spottiswoode and Edwin C. May
Cognitive Sciences Laboratory, Palo Alto, CA 94301.
Abstract
In a database of 2,879 free-response anomalous cognition (AC) trials the Spearman’s r
correlation between the ap geomagnetic index and AC effect size was -0.029 (p = 0.06).
An increased correlation was found for trials that occurred at 13 hours Local Sidereal
Time (LST). The correlation observed for trials which occurred between 11.2 h and 14.8
h LST was -0.192 (N = 256, p = 0.002) while the correlation was effectively zero
(r = -0.01, N = 2,623, ns) for trials at other times. The maximum magnitude correlation
of -0.33 (N = 134, p = 0.0001) was observed in the 12.9 ±1 h LST period. A subset of
this data for which solar wind speed measurements were available showed a similar
correlation configuration with a negative correlation peak near 13h LST. The power
spectrum of the effect sizes showed a peak at 13.8 days period, which is close to twice
the solar rotation rate, a period typical of solar wind modulations. These observations are
consistent with the thesis that AC performance is modulated by a parameter which varies
with solar activity.Anomalous Cognition: Sid

Here's the pdf link for it: http://www.jsasoc.com/docs/PA-GMF.pdf

Below is a list of all of the studies done by that group. Most come with pdf files:

http://www.jsasoc.com/library.htm


Papers

Skin Conductance Prestimulus Response: Analyses, Artifacts and a Pilot Study.
S. James P. Spottiswoode & Edwin C. May, Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol.17, No.4, pp.617-641.(2003).

Methodological Issue in the Study of Correlation between Psychophysiological Variables.
Edwin C. May & S. James P. Spottiswoode. Proceedings of the Parapsychological Association 44th Annual Convention, New York, (2001).

Geomagnetic Factors in Subjective Precognitive Dream Experiences
S. Krippner, A. Vaughan, S. James P. Spottiswoode, Journal of the Society for Psychical Research, Vol. 64.2 (2000).

Global Consciousness Project: An Independent Analysis of The 11 September 2001 Events.
Edwin C. May & S. James P. Spottiswoode

A Search for Alpha Power Changes Associated with Anomalous Cognition.
Edwin C. May, S. James P. Spottiswoode, Laura V. Faith. Proceedings of the International Society of Psychophysiology, Sydney, Australia (2000).

The Correlation of the Gradient of Shannon Entropy and Anomalous Cognition: Toward an Anomalous Cognition Sensory System.
Edwin C. May, S. James P. Spottiswoode, Laura V. Faith. Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 14 No. 1 pp. 53-72, (2000).

Anomalous Cognition Effect Size:Dependence on Sidereal Time and Solar Wind Parameters.
S. James P. Spottiswoode & Edwin C. May. Proceedings of the Parapsychological Association 40th. Annual Convention, Brighton, United Kingdom (1997).

Geomagnetic Fluctuations and Free Response Anomalous Cognition: A New Understanding.
S. James P. Spottiswoode, Journal of Parapsychology, Vol. 61 (1997).

Apparent Association Between Effect Size in Anomalous Cognition Experiments and Local Sidereal Time.
S. James P. Spottiswoode, Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 11 No. 2 (1997).

Decision Augmentation Theory: Applications to the Random Number Generator Database.
Edwin C. May, Jessica M. Utts, S. James P. Spottiswoode Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 9 No. 4 (1995).

Decision Augmentation Theory: Toward a Theory of Anomalous Mental Phenomena.
Edwin C. May, Jessica M. Utts, S. James P. Spottiswoode, Journal of Parapsychology, Vol. 59 (1995).

Shannon Entropy: A possible Intrinsic Target Property
Edwin C. May, S. James P. Spottiswoode, C. L. James Journal of Parapsychology, Vol. 58 (1994).

Managing the Target Pool Bandwidth: Noise Reduction for Anomalous Cognition Experiments.
Edwin C. May, S. James P. Spottiswoode, C. L. James. Journal of Parapsychology, Vol. 58 (1994).

Effect of Ambient Magnetic Field Fluctuations on Performance in a Free Response Anomalous Cognition Task: A Pilot Study.
S. James P. Spottiswoode. Proceedings of the Parapsychological Association 36th Annual Convention, Toronto, Canada (1993).

Geomagnetic Disturbance as a Seizure-Provoking Factor: an Epidemiological Study.
S. James P. Spottiswoode, Eric Tauboll , Michael Duchowny and Vernon Neppe. Epilepsia, Vol. 34, suppl. 2, pp 56 (1993).

Geomagnetic Activity and Anomalous Cognition: A Preliminary Report of New Evidence.
S. James P. Spottiswoode, Subtle Energies, Vol.1. pp 91 - 102. (1990).

Testing Schrödinger's Paradox With A Michelson Interferometer.
Evan H. Walker, Edwin C. May, S. James P. Spottiswoode, T. Piantanida, Physica B&C, Vol. 151, No.1-2, pp 339-348 (1988).

A Michelson-Interferometer Schrödinger Cat: The Death of the Observational Theories
Edwin C. May, S. James P. Spottiswoode, Proceedings of the Parapsychological Association 31st Annual Convention, Montreal (1988).

Infrared Analysis Of Water Exposed To Therapeutic Practitioners,
Stephan A. Schwartz, R. L. DeMattei, E. Brame S. James P. Spottiswoode Proceedings of the Federation of Analytical Chemistry and Spectroscopy Societies, Detroit (1987).

[BMJ]

Posted by Roisin (here)

Posted by BMJ (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
Here’s a sketch of what the witness saw


http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/The_Smiling_Man

The sketch reminds of the Joker from Batman.

Like I said, nothing happens in isolation. The Joker could very well be the phenomenon called The Smiling Man/the grinning man/the bogeyman. The writer of those Batman series and those artists who draw those comics may have based The Joker on that phenomenon.

http://johnnycirucci.com/wp/wp-conte...-the-joker.jpg

Black eyed children always seem to bring on sense of deep fear, probable a gut instinct or soul reaction, best would be to steer clear of these little critters.

Bruno dante, don't get to worked up seeing your double, first time out it is a bit freaky but just take it in your stride. I often see doubles of my flat mate and the puppy, several times a week, and just accept it as part of the normal day now.

[Pris]

Posted by Roisin (here)
Psi functioning seems to be a real human ability, but while it is often reported anecdotally, there has been considerable difficulty proving under controlled conditions. It may be that this difficulty has been due to the fact that researchers have been conducting experiments at different sidereal times of day. Almost a six-fold difference in performance of a psychic between 13.5 h and 18.9 h LST is substantial. And remember, 13.5 hours LST changes in solar time each day.



The evidence suggests that there is something near or beyond the edge of the Solar System that is influencing our psychic ability.

I'm not sure if this is related... If I'm not mistaken, David Wilcock talked about this subject... that our psychic abilities are enhanced depending what side of the planet you are on facing a certain direction at a certain time of the day (example: in line with energy coming in from the centre of the galaxy). Psychic abilities are enhanced for maybe a couple of hours -- and there's a peak period within that -- lasting maybe a half an hour or so.

[raregem]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by sigma6 (here)
Nothing to feel sorry for, you just live in an unimaginably small world...

Then you must live in an unimaginably large world. Good for you!

Your retort made no sense in order to one up Sigma6. Do you think this is a conspiracy site for you to dismantle or do you have relevant ideas to share in a cohesive and RESPECTFUL way. Discussion is just that. Discussion. It isn't meant to attack the writer. This is my view of PA. Can we do respectful and still get the message across? Oh btw how many "conspiracies" have been proven to your satisfaction?

[bogeyman]

It is often ignored that there are spiritual connotations to all this, and perhaps provide some insight. Is there any written evidence of "black eyed" people in ancient history, or reports of black eyed people in various countries throughout the world, or is it limited to certain areas for example?

[bruno dante]

I don't know if this is related to my story or not, but I've had a couple strange things happen since my experience. Nothing dramatic, but weird.

I've received 2 text messages from a friend who swears he didn't send them. They read strangely too - he called me."buddy" in both of them. He's never called me buddy in his life. But they came from his number.

And when I speak to this individual on the phone, we'll have episodes of 5 mins or more when his phone emits interference just as I begin to talk. Never when I'm silent. It's just very very odd. He's a friend from out of state, and in all the years we've spoke on the phone this has never happened.

[Atlas]

Posted by raregem (here)

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by sigma6 (here)
Nothing to feel sorry for, you just live in an unimaginably small world...

Then you must live in an unimaginably large world. Good for you!

Your retort made no sense in order to one up Sigma6. Do you think this is a conspiracy site for you to dismantle or do you have relevant ideas to share in a cohesive and RESPECTFUL way. Discussion is just that. Discussion. It isn't meant to attack the writer. This is my view of PA. Can we do respectful and still get the message across? Oh btw how many "conspiracies" have been proven to your satisfaction?

Sigma6 accused me of promoting a website and he was wrong.

[Nick Matkin]

Back on topic...

"It's really strange, but since we started handing out 20-pound notes to people who gave us stories of black eyes kids, there's been an explosion in the number of sightings. We just can't explain it..."

Nick

[Helvetic]

David Weatherley, William White Crow, Tony Kudos | The Black Eyed Children

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KMZdCdhwfa4

"They just want to come inside. Across the world, there are a growing number of accounts of strange, black eyed children. They appear on doorsteps, at car windows, hotel rooms and even boats. Their skin is pale, their mannerisms odd and they have one consistent request. They want to be invited inside. What exactly is this growing phenomena? Are they demonic entities? Alien hybrids? Perhaps they are some form of spirit seeking passage to another place. Or, are they simply a modern urban legend born of the computer age" ~David Weatherley