John Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" Full Interview 2008

[Muzz]

Hi all

Everyone here will be familiar with this but only snippets of it in films such as zeitgeist addendum. This is the full interview. I don't recall seeing it before on Avalon so here it is for those interested.

John Perkins: "Zeitgeist: Addendum" Extended Interview 2008

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xLe9u9SffO0

Found this whilst reading this article by Zen Gardener here.

Latin America Beware

[christian]

Very important information to understand and discern, absolutely fundamental. And it's out in the open now, what a great thing that is!

It's strange anyways how complex people are. John Perkins on one level exposes all the corruption, this level of the conspiracy, was consciously part of Zeitgeist Addendum, which promotes pseudo-ecological totalitarianism, but he then refuses to be part of the Thrive movie, which in my opinion is the best 2 hour documentary to give to people who have no grasp on the bigger picture yet, because he says he doesn't want to be part of a conspiracy movie.

From thrivemovement.org:

Deepak Chopra wrote a note to us recently in which he expressed that he did not expect to be part of a conspiracy theory film. Paul Hawken and John Perkins then both wrote to say they concurred with Deepak. We honor their need and right to express what makes them feel comfortable in relation to THRIVE, and, as we have stated repeatedly, we did not intend for them to feel misled.

We feel this is a good opportunity for us to share our thinking and why we were initially surprised to hear from them about their dissociation.

>> more: http://www.thrivemovement.com/thrive...nd-paul-hawken

[mahalall]

Whilst viewing, received this email-which seems quite relevant,

"A shepherd was herding his flock in a remote pasture when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud towards him. The driver, a young man in a Prada suit, Gucci shoes, Dior sunglasses and D+G tie, leans out the window and asks the shepherd, 'If I tell you exactly how many sheep you have in your flock,will you give me one sheep?'

The shepherd looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing flock and calmly answers: 'Sure. Why not?'
The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his Vodafone cell phone, surfs to a NASA page on the internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite navigation system to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany within seconds, he receives an e-mail on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored.
He then accesses a MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with hundreds of complex formulae. He uploads all of this data via an email on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response. Finally, he prints out a full-colour, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturised HP LaserJet printer, turns to the shepherd and says: 'You have exactly 1,586 sheep'. 'That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my sheep,' says the
shepherd. He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on amused as the young man stuffs it into the boot of his car.

Then the shepherd says to the young man 'Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me it back?' The young man thinks about it for a second and then says:'Okay, why not?'> 'You're a consultant' says the shepherd. 'Wow! That's correct,' says the yuppie. 'But how did you guess that?'
'No guessing required,' answers the shepherd. 'You showed up here even though nobody called you, you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked, and you know nothing about my business --- Now give me back my dog.'

[778 neighbour of some guy]

John Perkins at Marlboro College, nice interaction with the students, good q and a.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7fVAifnnlg0

[mosquito]

I've watched the first part, amazing and sickening.

This informstion should be passed to the international court at the Hague and the people responsible should be tried for crimes against humanity.

Am I alone in thinking that Mr. Perkins does not exactly come across as being 100% sincere ?

[bogeyman]

It comes down to greed and power, and those things are internal not external, it is man that needs to change, and if he has no wish to change then things will remain like they are. The involvement in the system is just a consequence of greed, manipulation, power, lies etc.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Am I alone in thinking that Mr. Perkins does not exactly come across as being 100% sincere ?

Nope you are not, i think the man has had a very interesting life/job and he does not even have the nerve to share how deep this stuff really goes and he just tried to make the best of it, on the other hand, the old and new world order are exactly the same in my book and they must have a third direction, from the lecture i posted i got the following( very interesting) somewhere near the end of his lecture he shares a story about his daughter, she wanted to buy a crib for her new baby, she had the following options, buy a 200 dollar one made in China presumably made in a sweatshop, or a 600 dollar one made in the USA or Canada made from protected forrest wood and under union regulations, he really pressed the kids to go for the 600 dollar option, using the standard enviromental guilt trip with a voice almost tearing up every other sentence.

So, what if if you are pregnant, need a crib and only have 200, what do you do?

I am getting the serious feeling this is a set up to stimulate US economy by keeping the cash in house.

Another question i have is this one, if all msm media is owned by only a few corporations, this incluides, tv, movies, magazines, publishing houses and what have we, how the hell did he manage to get his ( supposedly) very revealing book with truly potential horrific consequenses for half the people on the earth published, how did it get past the editors, did the worst/best parts of his story got edited out, it was on the best seller list for over a year, why, how, who benefits from bringing this info into the open, if the book was published by a small independent publisher, who financed it, did he have enough money to do tis himself, if yes, is he sincere in his attempts to tell the public whats going on, is it really news to them or just a confirmation, one thing i feel for sure, his story is not the whole story or at least not the whole truth, someone is benefitting from this info and it is not just mr Perkins, trillions are about to be made, and by whom, do not forget he had to be an actor to close business deals and show his clients exactly the face they needed to see to go along with his game, maybe the book was just a stepping up of the game. No way he would be still alive if they did not want this info to go public, as all msm media outlets are there to make us look the other way so we cannot see whats really going on, this book might just be the weapon that was needed to inform informed people just enough about the old games to piss them off, and in the mean time while they are being angry and not looking the new agenda is rolled out.

If i can make this up with a 157 IQ in twenty minutes after seeing the videos, imagine what a highly trained/skilled profiling thinktank can come up with by doing years of research and combining their knowledge, i agree something is fishy here.

[Hervé]

When the "negotiations" fail... feet on the ground arrive:

The rape of East Timor: The greatest crime of the 20th Century, executed & covered up

John Pilger johnpilger.com Sun, 28 Feb 2016 22:59 UTC

Secret documents found in the Australian National Archives provide a glimpse of how one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century was executed and covered up. They also help us understand how and for whom the world is run.

The documents refer to East Timor, now known as Timor-Leste, and were written by diplomats in the Australian embassy in Jakarta. The date was November 1976, less than a year after the Indonesian dictator General Suharto seized the then Portuguese colony on the island of Timor.

The terror that followed has few parallels; not even Pol Pot succeeded in killing, proportionally, as many Cambodians as Suharto and his fellow generals killed in East Timor. Out of a population of almost a million, up to a third were extinguished.

This was the second holocaust for which Suharto was responsible. A decade earlier, in 1965, Suharto wrested power in Indonesia in a bloodbath that took more than a million lives. The CIA reported: "In terms of numbers killed, the massacres rank as one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century."

This was greeted in the Western press as "a gleam of light in Asia" (Time). The BBC's correspondent in South East Asia, Roland Challis, later described the cover-up of the massacres as a triumph of media complicity and silence; the "official line" was that Suharto had "saved" Indonesia from a communist takeover.

"Of course my British sources knew what the American plan was," he told me.

"There were bodies being washed up on the lawns of the British consulate in Surabaya, and British warships escorted a ship full of Indonesian troops, so that they could take part in this terrible holocaust. It was only much later that we learned that the American embassy was supplying [Suharto with] names and ticking them off as they were killed. There was a deal, you see. In establishing the Suharto regime, the involvement of the [US-dominated] International Monetary Fund and the World Bank were part of it. That was the deal."

I have interviewed many of the survivors of 1965, including the acclaimed Indonesian novelist Pramoedya Ananta Toer, who bore witness to an epic of suffering "forgotten" in the West because Suharto was "our man". A second holocaust in resource-rich East Timor, an undefended colony, was almost inevitable.

In 1994, I filmed clandestinely in occupied East Timor; I found a land of crosses and unforgettable grief. In my film, Death of a Nation, there is a sequence shot on board an Australian aircraft flying over the Timor Sea. A party is in progress. Two men in suits are toasting each other in champagne. "This is a uniquely historical moment," babbles one of them, "that is truly, uniquely historical."

This is Australia's foreign minister, Gareth Evans. The other man is Ali Alatas, the principal mouthpiece of Suharto. It is 1989 and they are making a symbolic flight to celebrate a piratical deal they called a "treaty". This allowed Australia, the Suharto dictatorship and the international oil companies to divide the spoils of East Timor's oil and gas resources.

Thanks to Evans, Australia's then prime minister, Paul Keating - who regarded Suharto as a father figure - and a gang that ran Australia's foreign policy establishment, Australia distinguished itself as the only western country formally to recognise Suharto's genocidal conquest. The prize, said Evans, was "zillions" of dollars.

Members of this gang reappeared the other day in documents found in the National Archives by two researchers from Monash University in Melbourne, Sara Niner and Kim McGrath. In their own handwriting, senior officials of the Department of Foreign Affairs mock reports of the rape, torture and execution of East Timorese by Indonesian troops. In scribbled annotations on a memorandum that refers to atrocities in a concentration camp, one diplomat wrote: "sounds like fun". Another wrote: "sounds like the population are in raptures."

Referring to a report by the Indonesian resistance, Fretilin, that describes Indonesia as an "impotent" invader, another diplomat sneered: "If 'the enemy was impotent', as stated, how come they are daily raping the captured population? Or is the former a result of the latter?"

The documents, says Sarah Niner, are "vivid evidence of the lack of empathy and concern for human rights abuses in East Timor" in the Department of Foreign Affairs.

"The archives reveal that this culture of cover-up is closely tied to the DFA's need to recognise Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor so as to commence negotiations over the petroleum in the East Timor Sea."

This was a conspiracy to steal East Timor's oil and gas. In leaked diplomatic cables in August 1975, the Australian Ambassador to Jakarta, Richard Woolcott, wrote to Canberra:

"It would seem to me that the Department [of Minerals and Energy] might well have an interest in closing the present gap in the agreed sea border and this could be much more readily negotiated with Indonesia ... than with Portugal or independent Portuguese Timor."

Woolcott revealed that he had been briefed on Indonesia's secret plans for an invasion. He cabled Canberra that the government should "assist public understanding in Australia" to counter "criticism of Indonesia".

In 1993, I interviewed C. Philip Liechty, a former senior CIA operations officer in the Jakarta embassy during the invasion of East Timor. He told me:

"Suharto was given the green light [by the US] to do what he did. We supplied them with everything they needed [from] M16 rifles [to] US military logistical support ... maybe 200,000 people, almost all of them non-combatants died. When the atrocities began to appear in the CIA reporting, the way they dealt with these was to cover them up as long as possible; and when they couldn't be covered up any longer, they were reported in a watered-down, very generalised way, so that even our own sourcing was sabotaged."

I asked Liechty what would have happened had someone spoken out. "Your career would end," he replied. He said his interview with me was one way of making amends for "how badly I feel".

The gang in the Australian embassy in Jakarta appear to suffer no such anguish. One of the scribblers on the documents, Cavan Hogue, told the Sydney Morning Herald:

"It does look like my handwriting. If I made a comment like that, being the cynical bugger that I am, it would certainly have been in the spirit of irony and sarcasm. It's about the [Fretilin] press release, not the Timorese." Hogue said there were "atrocities on all sides".

As one who reported and filmed the evidence of genocide, I find this last remark especially profane. The Fretilin "propaganda" he derides was accurate. The subsequent report of the United Nations on East Timor describes thousands of cases of summary execution and violence against women by Suharto's Kopassus special forces, many of whom were trained in Australia. "Rape, sexual slavery and sexual violence were tools used as part of the campaign designed to inflict a deep experience of terror, powerlessness and hopelessness upon pro-independence supporters," says the UN.

Cavan Hogue, the joker and "cynical bugger", was promoted to senior ambassador and eventually retired on a generous pension. Richard Woolcott was made head of the Department of Foreign Affairs in Canberra and, in retirement, has lectured widely as a "respected diplomatic intellectual".

Journalists watered at the Australian embassy in Jakarta, notably those employed by Rupert Murdoch, who controls almost 70 per cent of Australia's capital city press. Murdoch's correspondent in Indonesia was Patrick Walters, who reported that Jakarta's "economic achievements" in East Timor were "impressive", as was Jakarta's "generous" development of the blood-soaked territory. As for the East Timorese resistance, it was "leaderless" and beaten. In any case, "no one was now arrested without proper legal procedures".

In December 1993, one of Murdoch's veteran retainers, Paul Kelly, then editor-in-chief of The Australian, was appointed by Foreign Minister Evans to the Australia-Indonesia Institute, a body funded by the Australian government to promote the "common interests" of Canberra and the Suharto dictatorship. Kelly led a group of Australian newspaper editors to Jakarta for an audience with the mass murderer. There is a photograph of one of them bowing.

East Timor won its independence in 1999 with the blood and courage of its ordinary people. The tiny, fragile democracy was immediately subjected to a relentless campaign of bullying by the Australian government which sought to manoeuvre it out of its legal ownership of the sea bed's oil and gas revenue. To get its way, Australia refused to recognise the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice and the Law of the Sea and unilaterally changed the maritime boundary in its own favour.

In 2006, a deal was finally signed, Mafia-style, largely on Australia's terms. Soon afterwards, Prime Minister Mari Alkitiri, a nationalist who had stood up to Canberra, was effectively deposed in what he called an "attempted coup" by "outsiders". The Australian military, which had "peace-keeping" troops in East Timor, had trained his opponents.

In the 17 years since East Timor won its independence, the Australian government has taken nearly $5 billion in oil and gas revenue - money that belongs to its impoverished neighbour.

Australia has been called America's "deputy sheriff" in the South Pacific. One man with the badge is Gareth Evans, the foreign minister filmed lifting his champagne glass to toast the theft of East Timor's natural resources. Today, Evans is a lectern-trotting zealot promoting a brand of war-mongering known as "RTP", or "Responsibility to Protect". As co-chair of a New York-based "Global Centre", he runs a US-backed lobby group that urges the "international community" to attack countries where "the Security Council rejects a proposal or fails to deal with it in a reasonable time". The man for the job, as the East Timorese might say.

Watch John Pilger's film Death of a Nation - The Timor Conspiracy

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[Hym]

Yes Mosquito you are correct. Like 778 says, the man doesn't have the nerve to tell the truth. Is he, Perkins, that disconnected in telling only a part of the truth that he doesn't see that the men who ordered it all, those who profit from it all and those who allow it to happen will still be in business?
Guys like Perkins are so disappointing, disconnected, and drowning in their own causes. I find it telling when I have ever asked them to go further in telling the truth. They change the subject. I had an email conversation with Perkins like this. I had a conversation with Greg Palast, another journalist, at a book store and he too didn't want to go into any depth. He had time to talk but changed the subject and I left him in the shallow confines of his ethical limitations, disappointed and wondering how it is that those like him have any peace.
Those guys are all on a leash. Part of the truth alone ends up being a lie. The cause that creates the depravity still exists and they know it, unwilling to tell the truth in it's entirety and give the world a fair chance at changing.

[norman]

Man in America - The Corruption is FAR WORSE Than You Thought - Economic Hitman, John Perkins
1 hour 38 minutes - Posted May 13, 2023

SHOW NOTES
Join me for an explosive interview with John Perkins, author of "Confessions of an Economic Hitman," where he shares his firsthand experience with the corrupt, shadowy organizations running our world.


video version:
https://rumble.com/v2lo8ce-the-corru...n-perkins.html



Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v2j2sue/?pub=4