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    Quote Posted by Prodigal Son (here)

    Imagine this planet without the Cabal... and if everyone knew the truth. Imagine if we weren't programmed to dance to their tune from birth.
    Hi again brother,

    I´ll tell one thing about the cabal. They are humans, just like any of us.

    You remove one of them and there´s another million people who would gladly take his place. In fact, that´s what most people fight for; To get to the top of the pyramid.

    So, I´d say it´s totally unrealistic to believe that if you remove all members of the cabal/elite/tptb, Earth will become paradise. There´s no way it would work.

    While you see it as a solution; Other people see it as an opportunity.

    Even if you remove them all at once, before you realize it, there would be other people killing themselves replace them.

    They are not, even remotely, the root of our problem.

    The problem is that the vast majority of humans are corrupt in different degrees and, those who are not corrupted already, are highly susceptible to be anytime in the future.

    Temptation is something that we, as a race, are not really good in dealing with.

    I´d say that, remaining incorruptible while living in society, is a heck of a challenge; Definitively.

    Let me ask you all a question. I expect a completely honest answer:

    -Would you swear upon whatever you think it´s sacred, that you, as a human being, are incorruptible? Are you, beyond the shadows of doubt, immune to greed and temptation?

    You don´t need to answer it publicly, of course. Just think about it for a moment.

    You see, that´s the problem.

    The eyes of time have seen many once beautiful people with altruistic ideals and convictions, who, given the right opportunity and circumstances, have transformed themselves into monsters...So many, that I would be long dead before I could write all their names here.

    Raf.
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    I´ll give you another thing to think about, a metaphor that summarizes the human condition.

    Suppose we inform everyone in the world, simultaneously, that everyone who pick up their phones and dial 666 will instantly earn U$10.000.000,00 in cash, however, as consequence, another person from another country will instantly die.

    Tell me; How long it will take until everyone in the world becomes a dead millionaire?

    Voilà; You have the whole thing figured out.

    The clock´s ticking.

    Raf.
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    Default Re: Are the aliens really demons....?

    If there is life on other planets, and we go there, that would mean we would be the aliens. So does that mean we're demons? Hmmm....I think Raf is onto something. LOL

    BTW, Aliens aren't demons. They're goblin-faeries.


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    This is a question that is literally as old as the hills... is humanity inherently good or inherently evil?

    I think what you're saying Raf is that we need a new attitude. I couldn't agree more. But I think that with an education genuinely designed for human soul growth rather than the Rockefeller curriculum indoctrinating the masses with demonic poison, people would not be the monsters they are in this paradigm that the Cabal created.

    What we need is a change in philosophy away from Capitalism and towards Meritocracy. This would be much more harmonious with the Cosmos we live in. No one would be more than 10 times richer than the poorest. There would be a 100% inheritance tax. There would be more than enough wealth to go around because we wouldn't have the top 1 percent siphoning off 80 percent of it. In a world like that being selfish would not be popular. There is nothing we wouldn't be able to accomplish.

    Oh and by the way, I do NOT believe the Cabal are human... not yet anyway.
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    Svali, who claims to be an ex-illuminati trainer, explains the process required to turn someone into a killer. For me this makes sense. I think that we are naturally empathic and loving, but life conditions that reinforce fear (not feeling like a cherished valued member of a community ....alone, survival of the fittest) lead us to explore some aspects of our personality that are horrific and depraved. We contain it all in potential.

    Quote People do not suddenly become killers. It is a learned process to overcome the natural horror of killing other human beings, a process begun in earliest childhood by the Illuminati. You have to FORCE a child to kill.

    Here is how it is done (how it was done to me):
    [1] When the child is 2 years old, place them in a metal cage with electrodes attached. Shock the child severely.
    [2] Take the child out, and place a kitten in its hands. Tell the child to wring the kitten's neck. The child will cry and refuse.
    [3] Put the child into the cage, and shock them until they are dazed and cannot scream any more.
    [4] Take the child out, and tell them again to wring the kitten's neck. This time the child will shake all over, cry, but do it, afraid of the torture. The child will then go into the corner and vomit afterwards, while the adult praises them for "doing such a good job".

    This is the first step. The animals get bigger over time, as the child gets older. They will be forced to kill an infant at some point, either a set up or VR, or in reality. They will be taught by age 9 to put together a gun, to aim, and fire on target and on command. They will then practice on realistic manikins. They will then practice on animals. They will then practice on "expendables" or in VR. They will be highly praised if they do well, and tortured if they don't comply.
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    Quote Posted by Prodigal Son (here)
    This is a question that is literally as old as the hills... is humanity inherently good or inherently evil?

    I think what you're saying Raf is that we need a new attitude. I couldn't agree more. But I think that with an education genuinely designed for human soul growth rather than the Rockefeller curriculum indoctrinating the masses with demonic poison, people would not be the monsters they are in this paradigm that the Cabal created.

    What we need is a change in philosophy away from Capitalism and towards Meritocracy. This would be much more harmonious with the Cosmos we live in. No one would be more than 10 times richer than the poorest. There would be a 100% inheritance tax. There would be more than enough wealth to go around because we wouldn't have the top 1 percent siphoning off 80 percent of it. In a world like that being selfish would not be popular. There is nothing we wouldn't be able to accomplish.

    Oh and by the way, I do NOT believe the Cabal are human... not yet anyway.
    I´ll give you one thing to think about this question if humans are inherently good or inherently evil, my friend.

    As children, did we need to be taught how to be nice, or did we need to be taught how to be nasty?

    To a kid, nastiness comes natural; Niceness is self-control acquired by education.

    Anyway, about meritocracy, I believe it would work only if it was made into a perfect system, otherwise, it wouldn´t.

    The free market economy was supposed to be meritocratic, both in its capitalist and socialist variants.

    It was supposed to be a market structure in which the distribution and costs of goods and services, along with the structure and hierarchy between capital and consumer goods, were coordinated by supply and demand without external regulation or control by government or monopolies, where, if you´re competent you´re in, if you´re incompetent, you´re out.

    Even the democratic electoral system was supposed to be meritocratic; Ideally, a candidate should really be worthy to earn people´s votes.

    Now, look what it all has become.

    Honestly, and this is just my speculative opinion, we´re not quite there as a species, not as homo sapiens...Who knows, maybe the next homo whatever will do it. We´re certainly a better species than the homo neanderthalensis, but we´re still too primitive and still carry a lot of primate impulses; Maybe the next species will cut off the remaining animalistic ties, if we don´t disrupt evolution by extinguishing our own species first, of course.

    Raf.
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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    [...]

    They are not, even remotely, the root of our problem.

    The problem is that the vast majority of humans are corrupt in different degrees and, those who are not corrupted already, are highly susceptible to be anytime in the future.

    Temptation is something that we, as a race, are not really good in dealing with.

    I´d say that, remaining incorruptible while living in society, is a heck of a challenge; Definitively.

    [...]

    Raf.

    Yep... unfortunately, Raf, you are about 99% right... and when appeal to greed fails to yield its expected results, then blackmail and threats are resorted to (see John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man")

    Quote Agents of the world's elite have been long engaged in a war on the populace of Earth. Greed is the motivation for this war, a greed so pervasive that it encompasses the planet and all of the beings on it, but in recent times a philosophy has been used to justify that greed. It is the philosophy of mass control, that ultimately aims at dictating every aspect of human life - even remolding man's perception of reality and himself. [Jim Keith, Mass Control: Engineering Human Consciousness]
    Now, the reason why Earth and this solar system became a dumping ground for the galactic "riff-raff" is because it was the target of an engineered catastrophe that turned it into a planet as bald as a billiard ball. Prior to that, it was a prized R&R resort for galactic vacationers... you know... that beautiful garden of Eden, etc... the kind of galactic Club-Med depicted in "The Fifth Element."

    With that catastrophe, a mega-monster implanting of the souls inhabiting earth took place; done by "humans" onto other "humans."

    Thanks to that implant containing everything and the kitchen sink, i.e religions, devils, angels, etc... the implanted souls started creating the very content of that implant within the astral realm before biological bodies were, once more, able to survive on the devastated planet.

    Hadn't it been for that implant, "school" Earth would have been successful way, way back, to re-acquaint the traumatized beings with life and living. Instead, we have the vicious cycle of the abused perpetuating the abuser's actions by re-enacting and inflicting that same abuse onto others... ad eternam and ad infinitum. That is, humans onto humans.

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [...]

    Although it’s a fairly simple implant but it was quite effective in lousing people up because it interrupted them from creating what they would have created and took away what mock-ups that he did have and it stop the cycle and it put something there that is unwanted and so when they tried to create, they created it [the “unwanted”]. They fixed his attention by “protest.”

    [...]

    After this, however, about the remainder of the 36 days, which is the bulk of it, is taken up with a 3D, super colossal motion picture which has to do with “God,” the Devil, Space Opera, etc.

    [...]

    The entirety of Roman Catholicism, the devil and all of these sorts of things, that is all part of R6. Practically anything you can think of, all modern theatres in actual fact are built with the exact symbols shown [???] in R6.

    [...]

    What this is really designed to do is to make the individual cease and desist from creation and to knock off over-population. [...] For instance, you find people who are totally obsessed with sex with children, well, that is taught in R6. Nice guys.

    [...]

    About, well, relatively, we are almost in modern times -- 20 million years ago, something like that – somebody started a body line on the planet; it gradually worked through various areas of barbarism and once more, R6 tailored made it to be nothing but a caveman civilization.


    [...]


    Somebody, somewhere on this planet -- back about 600 BC, found some pieces of R6. I don’t know how they found it, either by watching madmen or something, but since that time, they have used it and it became what is known as Christianity.

    [...]

    The whole population of the planet responds like a clock to R6 symbols: they respond to nothing else. They do not respond to reason, they only respond to R6 symbols. So, you occupy the wrong symbol and people begin to think of you as a person who is going to save the planet. Then, one and all are more or less under orders to swatter you.

    Well, they booby-trapped it, they booby-trapped it very badly.

    The Catholic church, somewhere along the line, through watching the dramatizations of people, picked up some little fragments of R6 and they make it look like it’s continued forward into present time.

    [...]

    Now, that is peculiar and only to this planet and to this confederation. There have been other implants of various kind and sizes but this is probably one of the longest, most violent and wildest implant in this sector of the universe.

    [...]

    As Steve Richards puts it, one is bound to repeat the past in a "new" cycle unless that past is unfolded. That cycle, we are headed to repeat, has already happened in the past with the destruction of Lemuria and Atlantis... there are enough nuclear weapons wandering around for an exact repeat.

    When one looks around at what is being re-enacted/dramatized and compare it to such an implant blue-print particularly in the area of overpopulation, the similarities are staggering: tribes selling their conquered rivals to the slave traders... nations exporting their criminals and unwanted to "open" new countries... the advice to the Greeks, way back when they faced population problem in their cities, was, for the men, to find themselves a young athl... errr... boy, etc.

    And so, now the advice is something like: "Why don't you ascend in that nuclear explosion's flash of white light like you did once... upon a time.
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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    I think that the demons or jinns (djinns) are the same thing as archonic forces which are manipulating us humans to do bad things. They are interdimensional beings and also thought forms... And they are about to be wiped away (hopefully!).

    There are also bad aliens and then there are good aliens such as there are good humans and then there are bad humans. All of us are part of the same creation. Could light exist without darkness?
    I think "archontic forces" I have encounter may simply be "directed energy" weapons "someone" or "something" uses on the feeble human minds (like mine) to get me (and others) to think the voices in my head (and in the heads of others) are "god" or "demons" or "aliens."

    Can't speak for anyone else though.

    Funny too that ever since I started to think this... "the voices" went away.

    Funny too that I seem to run a pretty well organized, high impact, dynamic life now.

    I wonder if there's any correlations there?
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    [QUOTE=Prodigal Son;650585]
    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    Sometimes I pondered this idea: After Mars was in trouble due to It's Atmospheric Destruction/Planetary Destruction from War etc... the inhabitants of Mars thought of somehow utilizing Planet Earth and Its beings as a soul vehicle/collective for them. Us humans may very well be their experiment. Where did the civilization go from Mars? Did they come here? Were they all destroyed or are they us. I believe Planet Earth may very well be Mars revisited. Just a thought.
    Mars was once as beautiful as earth... we destroyed it 100,000 years ago, and we're here to make sure it doesn't happen again. All kinds of beings are rooting for us throughout all the Universe. That's my truth and I'm sticking with it.
    For the record:

    Although the above quote sounds like something I would say, and I do agree with the fact that I've pondered the above thoughts about Mars, I do not wish to take credit for the post because it is not my post. Somehow it got mingled during the reply. The above post about Mars is from WhiteFeather, not from me. Thank you WhiteFeather, I do ponder the same thing.

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    Quote Posted by AMystic3434 (here)
    I think that the aliens are really demons that are coming here from another dimension. That the illuminati are unlocking dimensions for the aliens/demons to come through. They are waiting to unlock the final dimensional doorway to bring Lucifer through. The aliens will appear good at first but they will turn on us. What they really want is our souls. They want to bring our souls back with them to the negative dimension from where they came. I think there will be a pole shift after the ascension which will wipe the demons off the earth but they already know this they just want to take as many souls with them as possible back to there negative dimension.
    Take a long and close look at what WE have done on this planet. We have been the demons haven't we?
    If we want to be enlightened, we need to lighten up

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    Quote Posted by Borden (here)
    What's a demon?...
    Steve Quayle defined "Demon" as a dis-embodied"fallen angel", in contrast to fallen angels with bodies like the Nephalim.
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    You guys will argue over this stuff til your blue in the face and still not get anywhere tbh, that is clear. Its the perfect distraction. There is OBE threads and you Demon chasers are never in them learning the one thing to find whether they exist or not and yet the OBE veterans keep telling you to stop chasing your tails and you never listen... and the Boss is never in them but promotes all the invisible bogey man threads, more and more people are going to get fed up with this charade. Always waiting for something that never comes...
    and showing videos of cooks chopping up live fish and saying there Demonic is so immature... I used to hunt when I was younger and kill live rabbits doesn't mean im possessed omg, I don't hunt anymore because I decided not to, not because a priest exorcised me.

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    A more pertinent question to my mind is why are we Earthlings being kept apart from the other races?
    Are we in quarantine for a particular reason?
    Is this from our end or theirs?
    This is the very thing which make us vulnerable we have no true idea whom to avoid & embrace!

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    Warning what you put in you become, 10 minutes well spent, The definitive answer----------

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    Quote Posted by K.W.B (here)
    A more pertinent question to my mind is why are we Earthlings being kept apart from the other races?
    Are we in quarantine for a particular reason?
    Is this from our end or theirs?
    This is the very thing which make us vulnerable we have no true idea whom to avoid & embrace!

    Easy one to answer
    We watch to many star wars movies...so we think life works like that.
    Nothing but our ignorance keeps us from the truth...
    We place ourselves in our own quarantine...there is nothing holding anyone from knowing...anything.
    We should recognise our own ignorance and embrace the power and beauty we all are.

    Take care and remember to think before you speak...you will be amazed how much you really know, if you just take the time to answer your own questions...if your answer leads you to pain and suffering, you got it wrong...if your answer leads you to joy and peace and love, you got it...right between the goal posts.
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    Quote Posted by Mulder (here)
    Quote Posted by Borden (here)
    What's a demon?...
    Steve Quayle defined "Demon" as a dis-embodied"fallen angel", in contrast to fallen angels with bodies like the Nephalim.
    I have no idea who Steve Quayle is...so I'll just leave him to his own thoughts and beliefs.

    What I can offer is that there is no such thing as a fallen angel...this is a misinterpreted concept created out of ignorance of the writings from which it was gleaned.
    The real meaning is to do with falling down into the lower realms...every single person on this planet is a 'fallen' angel if you just realized the true nature of your Being.
    We are all Immortal Spiritual Beings...including the, so called, 'demons'...who have chosen to 'fall' into the physical realm to acquire a higher and deeper understanding of the nature of consciousness.
    Some just get caught deeper into the darkness than others and need more time to find their way out...next time you see a demon...be sure to offer him a helping hand...
    Nothing sinister here...just an opportunity to be of service.
    Take care and much love
    Ray

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    Default Re: Are the aliens really demons....?

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    [...]

    They are not, even remotely, the root of our problem.

    The problem is that the vast majority of humans are corrupt in different degrees and, those who are not corrupted already, are highly susceptible to be anytime in the future.

    Temptation is something that we, as a race, are not really good in dealing with.

    I´d say that, remaining incorruptible while living in society, is a heck of a challenge; Definitively.

    [...]

    Raf.

    Yep... unfortunately, Raf, you are about 99% right... and when appeal to greed fails to yield its expected results, then blackmail and threats are resorted to (see John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man")

    Quote Agents of the world's elite have been long engaged in a war on the populace of Earth. Greed is the motivation for this war, a greed so pervasive that it encompasses the planet and all of the beings on it, but in recent times a philosophy has been used to justify that greed. It is the philosophy of mass control, that ultimately aims at dictating every aspect of human life - even remolding man's perception of reality and himself. [Jim Keith, Mass Control: Engineering Human Consciousness]
    Now, the reason why Earth and this solar system became a dumping ground for the galactic "riff-raff" is because it was the target of an engineered catastrophe that turned it into a planet as bald as a billiard ball. Prior to that, it was a prized R&R resort for galactic vacationers... you know... that beautiful garden of Eden, etc... the kind of galactic Club-Med depicted in "The Fifth Element."

    With that catastrophe, a mega-monster implanting of the souls inhabiting earth took place; done by "humans" onto other "humans."

    Thanks to that implant containing everything and the kitchen sink, i.e religions, devils, angels, etc... the implanted souls started creating the very content of that implant within the astral realm before biological bodies were, once more, able to survive on the devastated planet.

    Hadn't it been for that implant, "school" Earth would have been successful way, way back, to re-acquaint the traumatized beings with life and living. Instead, we have the vicious cycle of the abused perpetuating the abuser's actions by re-enacting and inflicting that same abuse onto others... ad eternam and ad infinitum. That is, humans onto humans.

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [...]

    Although it’s a fairly simple implant but it was quite effective in lousing people up because it interrupted them from creating what they would have created and took away what mock-ups that he did have and it stop the cycle and it put something there that is unwanted and so when they tried to create, they created it [the “unwanted”]. They fixed his attention by “protest.”

    [...]

    After this, however, about the remainder of the 36 days, which is the bulk of it, is taken up with a 3D, super colossal motion picture which has to do with “God,” the Devil, Space Opera, etc.

    [...]

    The entirety of Roman Catholicism, the devil and all of these sorts of things, that is all part of R6. Practically anything you can think of, all modern theatres in actual fact are built with the exact symbols shown [???] in R6.

    [...]

    What this is really designed to do is to make the individual cease and desist from creation and to knock off over-population. [...] For instance, you find people who are totally obsessed with sex with children, well, that is taught in R6. Nice guys.

    [...]

    About, well, relatively, we are almost in modern times -- 20 million years ago, something like that – somebody started a body line on the planet; it gradually worked through various areas of barbarism and once more, R6 tailored made it to be nothing but a caveman civilization.


    [...]


    Somebody, somewhere on this planet -- back about 600 BC, found some pieces of R6. I don’t know how they found it, either by watching madmen or something, but since that time, they have used it and it became what is known as Christianity.

    [...]

    The whole population of the planet responds like a clock to R6 symbols: they respond to nothing else. They do not respond to reason, they only respond to R6 symbols. So, you occupy the wrong symbol and people begin to think of you as a person who is going to save the planet. Then, one and all are more or less under orders to swatter you.

    Well, they booby-trapped it, they booby-trapped it very badly.

    The Catholic church, somewhere along the line, through watching the dramatizations of people, picked up some little fragments of R6 and they make it look like it’s continued forward into present time.

    [...]

    Now, that is peculiar and only to this planet and to this confederation. There have been other implants of various kind and sizes but this is probably one of the longest, most violent and wildest implant in this sector of the universe.

    [...]

    As Steve Richards puts it, one is bound to repeat the past in a "new" cycle unless that past is unfolded. That cycle, we are headed to repeat, has already happened in the past with the destruction of Lemuria and Atlantis... there are enough nuclear weapons wandering around for an exact repeat.

    When one looks around at what is being re-enacted/dramatized and compare it to such an implant blue-print particularly in the area of overpopulation, the similarities are staggering: tribes selling their conquered rivals to the slave traders... nations exporting their criminals and unwanted to "open" new countries... the advice to the Greeks, way back when they faced population problem in their cities, was, for the men, to find themselves a young athl... errr... boy, etc.

    And so, now the advice is something like: "Why don't you ascend in that nuclear explosion's flash of white light like you did once... upon a time.
    The more I circle your posts, Amzer Zo... like a hungry bird looking for more food to chew on, I find the circles getting smaller and I find the view of the target becoming clearer and clearer.

    Now, I have no idea at all whatsoever in this tiny iceberg tip of my "conscious" overall consciousness, what is actually true or what is just my massive fantasy or what is my drive to adopt someone else's fantasy but under the water line I can feel the thawing... I can feel it.

    This rat I am starting to smell, smells much like the one you point out (which has been pointed out by LRH).

    Thank You (again) Amzer Zo for your posts.

    Note: I have been working through "Self Analysis" but in being honest, that I am required to go through all this mechanical part "without a human guide" is proving to be a tough one me. I assume that is also part of the implant? Resistance?

    But I can feel the war inside. And thus I can understand how war manifests in humanity. And I can clearly see how this manifestation almost has to result in a planet-wide, total destruction of our physical selves (again).

    "god" gets what "god" wants. Don't "we" just love God?

    What a nasty bugger this R6.

    Anyways, also... I have been preparing a list of questions for you that, when I have them completed and posted, I hope you will answer. These questions involve this "soul" business and "us before this time in this sector of this galaxy" and perhaps us (or "me"/"you"/"them") before time (if there was such a "time").

    Chester
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    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: Are the aliens really demons....?

    Thank you to you all who give very "grounded" "solid" insights to this "aliens" and "demons" thread. In short, having no conscious memories of any encounters with beings outside of the human kind, this is what I think, taking every persons points. I think if there are "demons" it is just a title for certain aliens, aliens and demons would be synonymous, if they do indeed exist, I would ration they do exist. I must say however that the only "demonic" behavior I have witnessed, has come from humans and humans alone, this may not be true, but it is all I have witnessed, unless "they" look like us, and are so many in number that we are all fooled, I cant say. When I see atrocities, and since I am human (I think) and say to myself, I could never do these, so are these behaviors "non-human" traits, or just psychopathic human behaviors. In my current state, I do not know, I can just generate opinions, which does not prove anything.

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    Default Re: Are the aliens really demons....?

    Is evil and or demonic behavior so to speak just a part of human nature?

    Quote …man differs from the animal by the fact that he is a killer; he the only primate that kills and tortures members of his own species without any reason, either biological or economic, and who feels satisfaction in doing so. It is this biologically non-adaptive and non-phylogenetically programmed "malignant" aggression that constitutes the real problem and the danger to man’s existence as a species...The most ample – and horrifying – documentation for seemingly spontaneous forms of destructiveness are on the record of civilized history. The history of war is a report of ruthless and indiscriminate killing and torture, whose victims were men, women, and children. Many of these occurrences give the impression of orgies of destruction, in which neither conventional nor genuinely moral factors had any inhibitory effect…There is hardly a destructive act human imagination could think of that has not been acted out again and again - Erich Fromm (Anatomy of Human Destructiveness)
    I wondered for years why the Egyptians were fixated with cats, mummified 100's of thousands of them. Until one day I watch a cat run up to my bird feeder and jump up and snatch a bird, the cat killed the bird and made sure it was dead and just walked away like nothing happened, leaving the bird there to rot away. Is this cat evil and is demonic behavior a part of its nature? Did the Egyptians notice this "evil" in felines which is why they basically worshiped them?

    The nature of the universe is birth, existing for a certain length of time, then death and decay. When an orb/planet crashes in to another planet and destroys it, is the "surviving" planet evil or demonic for "killing" the other planet?

    Are angels and demons so to speak two sides of the same coin? One creates and the other destroys, one gives birth and the other kills, one loves, the other hates??????

    Quote Two Wolves - A Cherokee Parable

    An old Cherokee chief was teaching his grandson about life...

    "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.
    "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves.

    "One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt, and ego.

    "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.

    "This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

    The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather,
    "Which wolf will win?"

    The old chief simply replied,
    "The one you feed."

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