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    Default Re: Nemesis, Tyche, Nibiru, Planet X, Brown Dwarf & Binary System: Myths & Realities

    With respect to that previous post, this does indeed seem like a very valid candidate for our Sun's binary twin:

    Scholz's star disturbed prehistory's solar system's comets

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    At a time when modern humans were beginning to leave Africa and the Neanderthals were living on our planet, Scholz's star approached less than a light-year. © José A. Peñas/SINC

    About 70,000 years ago, during human occupation of the planet, a small, reddish star approached our solar system and gravitationally disturbed comets and asteroids. Astronomers from the Complutense University of Madrid and the University of Cambridge have verified that the movement of some of these objects is still marked by that stellar encounter.

    At a time when modern humans were beginning to leave Africa and the Neanderthals still thrived, Scholz's star-named after the German astronomer who discovered it-approached less than a light-year from the sun. Today, it is almost 20 light-years away, but 70,000 years ago, it entered the Oort cloud, a reservoir of trans-Neptunian objects located at the confines of the solar system.

    This discovery was made public in 2015 by a team of astronomers led by Professor Eric Mamajek of the University of Rochester (USA). The details of that stellar flyby, the closest documented so far, were presented in The Astrophysical Journal Letters.

    Now, two astronomers from the Complutense University of Madrid, the brothers Carlos and Raúl de la Fuente Marcos, together with the researcher Sverre J. Aarseth of the University of Cambridge (United Kingdom), have analyzed for the first time nearly 340 solar system objects with hyperbolic orbits (very open V-shaped, rather than elliptical) They have concluded that the trajectories of some of these were influenced by the passage of Scholz's star.

    "Using numerical simulations, we have calculated the radiants or positions in the sky from which all these hyperbolic objects seem to come," explains Carlos de la Fuente Marcos, a co-author of the study now published in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.
    "In principle," he adds, "one would expect those positions to be evenly distributed in the sky, particularly if these objects come from the Oort cloud. However, what we find is very different-a statistically significant accumulation of radiants. The pronounced over-density appears projected in the direction of the constellation of Gemini, which fits the close encounter with Scholz's star."
    The period in which this star passed through the Oort Cloud and its position during prehistory coincide with the data of the new investigation and in those of Mamajek and his team. "It could be a coincidence, but it is unlikely that both location and time are compatible," says De la Fuente Marcos, who points out that their simulations suggest that Scholz's star approached even more than the 0.6 light-years pointed out in the 2015 study as the lower limit.

    The close fly-by of this star 70,000 years ago did not disturb all the hyperbolic objects of the solar system, only those that were closest to it at that time.
    "For example, the radiant of the famous interstellar asteroid 'Oumuamua is in the constellation of Lyra (the Harp), very far from Gemini, therefore it is not part of the detected over-density," says De la Fuente Marcos.
    He is confident that new studies and observations will confirm the idea that a star passed close to us in a relatively recent period.

    Scholz's star is actually a binary system formed by a small red dwarf with about 9 percent of the mass of the sun, around which a much less bright and smaller brown dwarf orbits. It is likely that human ancestors saw its faint reddish light during prehistorical nights.

    More information: Carlos de la Fuente Marcos et al. Where the Solar system meets the solar neighbourhood: patterns in the distribution of radiants of observed hyperbolic minor bodies, Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society: Letters (2018). DOI: 10.1093/mnrasl/sly019


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    Love it when old threads like this get bumped, had no idea it was here. Bookmarked for later reading.

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    Mysterious gigantic rogue planet seen moving outside our solar system

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    Artist's impression of the enormous object known as SIMP J01365663+0933473 © Chuck Carter, NRAO/AUI/NSF

    A mysterious large object is floating around outside our solar system and researchers aren't sure exactly what it is - although it could be a rogue planet.

    In the first radio-telescope detection of a planetary-mass object beyond our solar system, astronomers have found the strange celestial body has 12.7 times the mass of Jupiter. It doesn't appear to orbit a parent star, however, and is only 20 light-years away from Earth.
    "This object is right at the boundary between a planet and a brown dwarf, or 'failed star,' and is giving us some surprises that can potentially help us understand magnetic processes on both stars and planets," study lead astronomer Melodie Kao said.
    A brown dwarf is an object too large to be a planet, but isn't big enough to sustain the nuclear fusion of hydrogen in its core that is vital to stars.

    The object, which has been named SIMP J01365663+0933473, was first detected in 2016, but was thought to be a brown dwarf. The latest data reveals it's younger than first thought at a relatively youthful 200 million years old, and its mass is smaller, so it could be classified as a planet. Its temperature is also far cooler than the sun, at 825 degrees Celsius. It also has a strong magnetic field, 200 times the strength of Jupiter.

    The researchers were able to pick up on the object's magnetic activity using a powerful radio astronomy observatory called the Very Large Array, a National Science Foundation facility in New Mexico.

    The methods used suggest the researchers may have "a new way of detecting exoplanets, including the elusive rogue ones not orbiting a parent star," researcher Gregg Hallinan said.
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    Default Re: Nemesis, Tyche, Nibiru, Planet X, Brown Dwarf & Binary System: Myths & Realities

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    ...and is only 20 light-years away from Earth.
    Yes... but that's 4.5 times more distant than Alpha Centauri. It's a very interesting neighbor, but it's nothing to do with our own solar system. (Which is kind of a shame! )

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    ...and is only 20 light-years away from Earth.
    Yes... but that's 4.5 times more distant than Alpha Centauri. It's a very interesting neighbor, but it's nothing to do with our own solar system. (Which is kind of a shame! )
    Right... back to cosmic watch...

    Nonetheless, what can be retained from the discovery:
    • Such bizarre planetoid/Brown Dwarf objects do exist in our vicinity
    • The detection of such object can be done via their magnetic signature/disturbance
    Considering the apparent influence of the Sirius system (8.6 light years away) on Earth's speed of rotation, there may be something about that "Electric Universe."
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    "The Goblin": New, distant dwarf planet bolsters evidence for "Planet X"

    Mike Wall, Space.com
    Wed, 03 Oct 2018 08:24 UTC


    The orbits of the newfound extreme dwarf planet 2015 TG387 and its fellow Inner Oort Cloud objects 2012 VP113 and Sedna, as compared with the rest of the solar system. © Roberto Molar Candanosa and Scott Sheppard, courtesy of Carnegie Institution for Science

    Scientists have discovered yet another marker on the trail toward the putative Planet Nine.

    That clue is 2015 TG387, a newfound object in the far outer solar system, way beyond Pluto. The orbit of 2015 TG387 shares peculiarities with those of other extremely far-flung bodies, which appear to have been shaped by the gravity of a very large object in that distant, frigid realm - the hypothesized Planet Nine, also known as Planet X.

    "These distant objects are like breadcrumbs leading us to Planet X," study leader Scott Sheppard, of the Carnegie Institution for Science in Washington, D.C., said in a statement.

    "The more of them we can find, the better we can understand the outer solar system and the possible planet that we think is shaping their orbits - a discovery that would redefine our knowledge of the solar system's evolution," he added.

    And 2015 TG387 is special among these bread crumbs, because it was found during a relatively uniform survey of the northern and southern skies rather than a targeted hunt for clustered objects in certain parts of the sky, Sheppard said. Targeted hunts can produce biased results - for example, the appearance of clustering where none may actually exist, he explained.


    The discovery images of 2015 TG387 taken at the Subaru 8-meter telescope located atop Mauna Kea in Hawaii on October 13, 2015. The images were taken about 3 hours apart. 2015 TG387 can be seen moving between images near the center while the much more distant stars and galaxies are stationary. © Scott Sheppard

    2015 TG387 has two dwarf-planet companions in the low-bias class, Sheppard said: 2012 VP113, which he and his colleague Chadwick Trujillo (who's a co-author of the new paper as well) spotted in 2014 as part of the same, ongoing long-term survey; and the relatively bright Sedna (because the whole sky has been searched to its level of brightness).

    "And then if you bring in some of the other extreme objects - several of them were found in our survey as well," Sheppard told Space.com. "The statistics get better and better that this planet is likely out there."

    Sheppard and his colleagues first spotted 2015 TG387 in October 2015, using Japan's 26-foot (8 meters) Subaru telescope atop the volcanic peak Mauna Kea in Hawaii. The researchers nicknamed the object "The Goblin," because of the discovery date and the "TG" in the provisional designation.

    It took the team three additional years to nail down The Goblin's orbit, which they did with the aid of observations by the Las Campanas Observatory in Chile and the Discovery Channel Telescope in Arizona.

    2015 TG387 loops around the sun on an extremely elliptical path, coming within about 65 astronomical units (AU) of the sun at its closest point (known as perihelion) and getting about 2,300 AU away at its most distant (aphelion).

    One AU is the average Earth-sun distance - about 93 million miles (150 million kilometers). So 2015 TG387 is way, way out there. Indeed, it takes about 40,000 Earth years for the newfound object to complete one lap around the sun.


    An artist’s illustration of the hypothesized but undiscovered Planet X, which could be shaping the orbits of smaller extremely distant outer solar system objects like 2015 TG387. © Roberto Molar Candanosa and Scott Sheppard, courtesy of Carnegie Institution for Science

    Only two known solar system bodies have more-distant perihelia than The Goblin does (2012 VP113 and Sedna), and only one (2014 FE72) has a greater aphelion distance. (For perspective: Pluto never gets closer to the sun than 29.7 AU, or farther away than 49.3 AU.)

    Sheppard and his colleagues think 2015 TG387 is about 186 miles (300 km) wide and probably spherical, in which case it would qualify as a dwarf planet. But that's all they can really say about The Goblin's physical characteristics.

    "It's pretty faint, so we can really just see that it's there," Sheppard told Space.com. "We don't even know the color of the object; we haven't gotten any spectroscopy on the object yet, or anything like that."

    (The 186-mile diameter is not a measurement but rather an estimate, assuming a "moderate" reflectiveness for 2015 TG387.)

    But going back to the orbit: The Goblin's is similar in key ways to those of some other extremely distant bodies - particularly in an element called "longitude of perihelion." Basically, the elongated parts of their elliptical orbits are clustered in the same part of the sky, which is consistent with gravitational shepherding by Planet X.

    The existence of Planet X was first seriously proposed in 2014 by Sheppard and Trujillo, to potentially explain oddities in the orbits of 2012 VP113, Sedna and a few other trans-Neptunian objects.

    In 2016, astronomers Konstantin Batygin and Mike Brown presented more evidence for such an unseen "perturber," which they called Planet Nine. Batygin and Brown have suggested that this world may be about 10 times more massive than Earth and orbit about 600 AU from the sun on average.

    In the new study, the researchers also performed computer simulations to test how Planet X's gravitational tug might influence the orbit of The Goblin. They found significant shepherding akin to that inferred for other distant objects - and determined that 2015 TG387's orbit remains stable for the age of the solar system nonetheless.

    "What makes this result really interesting is that Planet X seems to affect 2015 TG387 the same way as all the other extremely distant solar system objects," Trujillo, who's based at Northern Arizona University, said in the same statement. "These simulations do not prove that there's another massive planet in our solar system, but they are further evidence that something big could be out there."

    Sheppard puts the odds of Planet X's existence at around 85 percent. And he says it's not at all surprising that astronomers haven't spotted it yet.

    "Where we think the planet is - hundreds of AU away, if not 1,000 AU - something even as big as Neptune would be fainter than most telescopes could see," Sheppard told Space.com. (In case this sounds odd or incongruous: The Goblin was discovered near perihelion, at about 80 AU from the sun.)

    "And most of our surveys to date do not go that faint, do not go that deep. We've covered very little of the sky to the depth that's needed to be covered to find something this faint," he added. "You can hide a very big thing in the outer solar system very easily."
    The paper describing the discovery of 2015 TG387 has been submitted to The Astronomical Journal.

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    NASA is asking for volunteers to help find the hypothetical Planet 9. The project, called Backyard Worlds: Planet 9, has users check telescope images the same way Clyde Tombaugh found Pluto. So far, volunteers have already found over 100 brown dwarfs.

    August 22, 2020


    This artist's concept shows the hypothetical super-Earth known as Planet Nine or Planet X, which some researchers think lurks far beyond Pluto in the outer reaches of the solar system.R. Hurt/IPAC/Caltech

    With the COVID-19 pandemic shuttering schools, as a parent, you may be looking for fun and easy ways to help teach science to your kids at home. Or maybe your family just spent the summer outdoors observing Comet NEOWISE and now you want some supplementary educational resources to teach your kids about the night sky. The internet is packed with science activities, so it’s hard to know what’s reputable.

    We’ve made it easier for you by curating a list of NASA science projects designed for all ages. Each one of these space-themed citizen science projects has a strong educational component.

    So, you could launch yet another water rocket or build a baking soda volcano, but why not set your kids loose on actual science experiments? These are real-life science projects trying to answer some of the biggest lingering mysteries in astronomy. You don’t need any prior knowledge to get involved. For most, all you need is a computer and an internet connection.


    Over the past decade or so, astronomers have discovered a number of far-flung objects that all have very similar perihelia, meaning they make their closest approaches to the sun at about the same location in space. One leading theory that attempts to explain the clustering is that a massive and unseen world known as Planet Nine hiding in the outer solar system.Fauxtoez/Wikimedia Commons

    The hunt for Planet Nine

    Some astronomers think there’s a giant, undiscovered planet lurking in our outer solar system that they call Planet Nine. If it exists, it could be five to 10 times larger than the Earth and orbit hundreds of times farther out.

    A NASA citizen science project called Backyard Worlds: Planet 9 enlists volunteers to help find this potential planet. Along the way, the project incorporates educational materials so that you can also learn about the sun’s nearest neighbors and how solar systems form.

    You’ll be asked to look at images from NASA’s WISE telescope, searching for objects in our sun’s backyard, like Planet Nine. You’ll also search for brown dwarfs — an object that falls somewhere between a planet and a small star. Our solar system is surrounded by far more of these almost-suns than actual stars.

    The discovery technique is similar to the one astronomer Clyde Tombaugh employed to discover Pluto nearly a century ago. As you look at multiple images of the sky taken at different times, you’ll search for objects that jump around. Planet Nine should look something like a bouncing blue dot. Brown dwarfs should appear redder and move more slowly.

    Backyard Worlds is already yielding some seriously interesting results, too. Citizen science volunteers discovered a new brown dwarf just six days after the project launched. And so far, more than 100 of these objects have been discovered. Meanwhile, Planet Nine, if it exists, is still out there waiting to be found.

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    Default Re: Nemesis, Tyche, Nibiru, Planet X, Brown Dwarf & Binary System: Myths & Realities

    So, I havent read this thread since I don't really believe in the interpretations. However, I just came across an interpretation that makes the most sense to me that I never thought of. There is a big problem with the confusion between what is myth and what is reality and how much reality can reflect a myth.

    I came across a scooby doo episode (newer animation) on facebook where velma is in the mystery machine reading about nibiru on her laptop. I cant get a link cuz facebook sux like that. A quick you tube search didnt help. These days i tend to think these cartoons are more accurate than the talking heads haha

    Later in the video scooby is talking to a dog that is an Annunaki inhabiting a dog's body, since she says that Annunaki dont have bodies. She says that the annunaki "arrive at a TIME when the barriers between our worlds grow weak." That the Annunaki have a history of helping humans but not all Annunaki are good, have some evil ones. It shows some of the Egyptian gods with animal heads and wukong the monkey dude lol. I suppose a depiction of a god with an animal head and human body could represent an aware being with human like awareness inhabiting an animal body. hmmm not sure about that but the next i find most interesting, which is why im writing this.

    I then decided to look up the meaning of the word Nibiru. The term Nibiru means "Planet of the crossing", and it's cuneiform sign was often a cross, or various winged disc. The name is Akkadian and means 'crossing place' or 'place of transition'. The Akkadian meaning sounds like the interdimensional transition where humans can cross into another world of perception via the third eye (the symbol of the winged disc).

    The symbol of the cross brings me to the grand cross in astrology. Those 4 apocalypse ( the unveiling/revealing) points would be when the barrier or veil is thin and the third eye starts to perceive another world. Perhaps its natural for us to encounter a specific world first due to symmetry and duality. A twin world that has some of the entities from our myths.

    The cherubim guard the 4 points of the cross (to the gates of heaven - the third eye or gateway to higher realms). Perhaps "Planet of the crossing" isnt a perfect translation. But I now realize why its called a cross, wow. it forms the 4 junctures for our potential crossing Even the symbol is two (time)lines (worlds) crossing each other

    Astrology is showing us the cosmic clock and cycles. Ascension, interdimensional perception, Nibiru, Apocalypse, Cherubim, tesseract(4D cube opening us up to higher realms) etc. It all is the same thing to me. Going beyond this 3D cube prison of the 1st chakra. I guess it is possible that there is another planet that swings around changing the energy dynamics of the solar system which breaks down the illusion. But it doesnt matter.

    However, what does matter is figuring out the clock, the timing. Sitchin (who i dont trust) says about 3600 years. Astrology is supposedly putting each the cycle at approx. 25,920 years. That would mean each apocalypse comes every 6,480 years. I wish someone had the answer to this timing thing, but thats always the problem -WHEN ??!!

    IF anybody can add to this would be great.
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