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    This is an excellent video, superb production and a wonderfull source of information. The point of the piece is to impart certain data that will help one understand the motive behind chemtrailing which is geoengineering or weather modification.
    The data indicates a massive amount of solar energy is being redirected or reflected away from the earth back into space.
    More data is given for the negative effects on precipitation and the motive is discussed that this could be used to fix the game so to speak in so far as Wall Street is concerned with the market on agriculture goods.


    The video does a pretty good job in my opinon of giving good honest data, but then it lays the entire motive for chemtrailing to greed.
    I would like to say I don't necessarily think this is the case.
    Richard Hoagland has pointed out that the Solar System as a whole is heating up according to his Nasa colleagues, and as a result, we can only assume the sun is in fact heating up.
    Val Valerian in his Matrix I book back in 1987 knew about chemtrailing, and in fact said the government was doing it because they knew the sun was becoming more energetic and they didn't know what else to do.

    Regardless the video is top notch and worth your attention.



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    Default Re: Why In The World Are They Spraying? A geoengineering explanation for chemtrails

    I thank you for this video, and agree if it's about the protection of their assets, then all I want to know is "what are the side effects of the public health or enviornment bottom line."

    Doing this without these bits of necessary information also tells me, it may not be in the best interest of health of the public, unless they have stocks on some medications that alleviate the damage done/hide effects on health, NOT cure. Or maybe they think this generation awakening is expendable? Perhaps this aluminum also damages the thinking processes in certain humans, that cause violent reactions, and they are loaded with guns?

    Check every crack and crevice.

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    Default Re: Why In The World Are They Spraying? A geoengineering explanation for chemtrails

    Don't forget Rothschild is helping China sort their weather out!

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    Default Re: Why In The World Are They Spraying? A geoengineering explanation for chemtrails

    They are desperately trying to slow down the climate change.

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    Default Re: Why In The World Are They Spraying? A geoengineering explanation for chemtrails

    Thanks Wind

    I have no problem with folks pointing out the negative collateral damage in all of this, and hell I have no problem with folks giving alternative motives for chemtrailing, but I give it up to you, I agree, energy from space is the primary motive for chemtrailing in my opinion as well.

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    Default Re: Why In The World Are They Spraying? A geoengineering explanation for chemtrails

    Once upon a time... and not that long ago, this thread was started: Geoengineering, Chemtrails, HAARP, World Orders, Time Lines and Ascension with reference to a paper by a certain "Daniel" with the same title: http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-cont...ngineering.pdf and of which I reproduce portions of below:



    The Solar Transition
    Time to put pieces together… the sun is getting hotter from all the dust and debris the solar system is now experiencing.13 The increased fuel will increase the thermal destructive limit, which will cause a corresponding increase in magnetic ionization level, which will make more elements available for the stellar combustion process—the sun is going to get brighter and hotter. Initially, this will occur as bright flashes,14 like a mini novae, until sufficient material is available to hold the magnetic ionization limit at the next quantum step. At that time, the sun will suddenly jump up in stellar class, and remain there. (Well, “up” in the Reciprocal System, “down” in conventional astronomy, since they have it backwards.)

    The transition should be interesting. When the magnetic ionization level of the sun increases, it will be like throwing a cup of gasoline on the barbecue grill coals—a burst of flame and thermal activity, so much that it will move the thermal speeds past the speed of light. This “inverse thermal emission” actually occurs frequently on a small scale and is documented in detail in Prof. KVK Nehru's paper, Glimpses Into the Structure of the Sun: The Solar Interior and the Sunspots, and is the reason that sunspots are dark and appear cool. Inverse (FTL) thermal motion is super-hot, so hot that it appears cold and the region of the sun where it takes place goes dark, as in the sunspot umbra. There are already indications of this beginning to occur.15 Except this time, the whole sun will become an “umbra”—there should be a bright flash, like a nova flare, when the gas hits the fire (additional elements suddenly being available for fuel from the jump in magnetic ionization), then the sun will go dark, like it went out. But only for a short time, until the initial burst of new fuel has burned up and the sun returns to the zone of stability. Like most things, this has happened before16 and will happen again.

    Also recall the radioactive transitions. When the magnetic ionization increases, there will be a huge burst of radio waves as the material is accelerated FTL, along with the nova flare. The sun will go dark—FTL motion—and when it starts to light up again, there will be a huge burst of x-rays from the sun, and the possible ejection of a great deal of matter from the surface of the sun, due to the re-expansion of FTL thermal motion back to sub-light speed.

    Post-Transition
    After the transition is complete, the sun will be physically larger, brighter (more white than yellow) and hotter than before—and it is going to stay that way. One would think that this situation would make the inner planets go up like marshmallows burning on the campfire. But curiously, that is not the case. Seems that whoever designed stars and planets considered this, and used the energy of transition to aid in the further evolution of life.

    What will happen is that, due to the increased FTL motion in the sun, the gravitational balance of the solar system will change. FTL motion is anti-gravitational, so the sun will literally push the planets further outward in their orbits in compensation—the year will get longer.17 Being further from the sun, the planet will survive and establish a new ecosystem—but a different one.

    The changes in the sun will also produce changes in the planets, particularly the electro-magnetic alignment of the poles. As has been noted in geologic records, the north and south poles of the planets have been in various locations across the globe—not because the poles are moving, but because the crust of the planet is moving relative to the mantle and core. There is also a high degree of probability that the event will trigger a “core flare”, and expansion event of FTL matter in the core dropping to sub-light speeds and causing the crust of the Earth to expand and open at tectonic boundaries, eventuating in more surface area and a drop in ocean levels as compensation.18

    In my opinion, this solar transition is the “harvest” or “ascension” to a new state for life on Earth—not just man—all life on Earth. All the physical properties get “kicked up a notch,” as Emeril would say, commonly known as a “higher density” or a “higher dimension.”


    A Hot Time in the Old World, Tonight
    If you were NASA, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, or the “powers that be” and knew the sun was constantly getting hotter,19 but did not know the specifics because you listened to conventional scientists with their backwards stellar evolution, what would you be likely to do? Obviously, come up with a long-term strategy to deal with the excess heat. Back in the 1950s, a study was made on such a possibility and came up with three alternatives:

    1.Use nuclear weapons to blow holes in the upper atmosphere to let the increasing heat out,

    2.Create huge, underground cities to live in until the sun stabilized, or

    3.Get the heck off of Earth.

    The first one was a bit preposterous and could not be pulled off without public knowledge, so they started the 2nd and 3rd.

    The underground bunker approach was simple enough, as one of the features of HAARP20, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, was that it was able to probe well beneath the surface of the earth looking for oil and minerals resources, but also identified large caverns that would make excellent cities for them to stockpile and ride out the transition in comfort.21 Construction of these underground bunkers has been in progress for decades, and Alternative 2 is nearing completion.

    NASA came into existence shortly after this report was issued; some believe as a direct consequence of Alternative 3. Their mission was to find out what was “out there,” and what they found was that mankind is not going anywhere else, any time soon.22

    With Alternative 3 not viable and knowing they would be stuck here with the rest of us, and not particularly wanting to live underground all their lives, they needed to come up with a way to make their Utopia on Earth… and that is geoengineering. Change this planet to be resistant to the solar changes they knew were coming and keep their corporatocracy23 going.


    Geoengineering: Customizing the Planet
    First thing they had to deal with was the sun getting a lot brighter from the combustion of dust and debris, now present in significant quantities in the solar system. They needed to come up with a way to create a “global dimming” effect to block off this bright light. Aluminum, a nice, lightweight and very abundant element, works rather well for that as most of our mirrors today are coated with aluminum (not silver). Nanoparticles, distributed in the tropopause (about 7 miles up24), would increase the albedo of the Earth and turn the upper atmosphere into a partially-reflecting mirror.25 This has the result of “global dimming” on the surface.

    Next problem is the x-ray bursts. The Van Allen belts protect the Earth from most particulate radiation that comes from CMEs, but that magnetic field barely slows down x-rays. Fortunately, back in the 1950s a technology came available that had to address a similar problem—the Cathode Ray Tube, or CRT. CRTs were a large x-ray emitter, pointed right at the person watching the screen. To get this technology out, they had to develop something to block x-rays but not interfere with the picture. They tried lead, but after being bombarded with x-rays for a while, a lead film turned brown and messed things up. It was OK for the sides of the tube, but not the picture screen. Searching around, they found a couple of oxides that did an excellent job at blocking x-rays and stayed viable for a long time without browning out. That was a combination of barium and strontium.26

    They also expect huge particulate radiation from both the CMEs and the solar heat-up, so they looked for a way to increase the magnetic flux in the upper atmosphere, which as been popularized now as “magnetic reconnection”—not a natural phenomenon. Aluminum, barium and strontium are paramagnetic and what was really needed was a ferromagnetic material… how about another popular metal, like iron? Might make the sky and rain turn a bit reddish on occasion from iron oxide, but you could just say the people who saw that were crazy. And so what if thunderstorms got massively more violent from the conductive metals in the atmosphere (super-cell storms). People don't pay attention to things like that, right?27

    So they developed a technique to disburse aluminum, barium, strontium and iron in the stratosphere using the 10,000+ aircraft28 that are in the sky, every hour of every day. All they had to do was develop an aerosol and fuel additive, and “let 'er fly” to “git 'er-done.” Couple the aerosol dispersion system with a GPS (Global Positioning System) and you can even control precisely where the chemicals get dumped, without the pilots ever realizing anything is happening.

    Now if you look at chemtrail fallout in snow, ice and rain… what do you find? Aluminum hydroxide, barium oxide, strontium oxide and iron oxide. The same elements listed on climate modification and geoengineering patents. What a coincidence.

    As to the question of “global warming”… yes, the planet is heating up. However, due to the global dimming29 created by the chemtrail project, that heating up actually turned to a bit of cooling for a short time, causing conspiracy theorists to say the whole global warming thing was a farce. But if you've been outside lately, it is obvious that the sun is significantly brighter than it used to be, particularly at the higher elevations. And the chemtrail sunscreen is failing, though they constantly double efforts to reinforce it.

    The experts are well aware of the sun becoming brighter and hotter, but you can't get the sun to pay “carbon taxes” for causing global warming. But if “man” is the source of the global warming, then you've got yourself one major cash Cow with carbon taxes, environmental research, cleanup, breathing taxes, drinking taxes, waste reclamation taxes… to paraphrase Carl Sagan, “billions and billions” of bucks.

    The initial geoengineering work was to block the solar changes and was just a temporary solution until the solar transition completed. But, like good humanitarians, the globalists saw a different picture… what if they destroyed the natural cycle and introduced an artificial one? One that they were the sole supplier for? And the only way you could survive was to pay through the nose.


    Geoengineering and GMOs
    The globalists have always profited on the pain and suffering of others, and this is no exception. They did not bother to put much research into the “side effects” of dumping millions of pounds of these elements in the atmosphere—they only considered the immediate need to protect from the solar transition and figured they could take care of the side effects later on. But here was a major opportunity in the form of disasters, pain and suffering.

    A couple of the major side-effects were drought and superstorms.One cannot tip the seesaw, without having extremes.

    Drought occurs in the areas that are being heavily seeded, as these nanoparticles in the upper atmosphere form condensation nuclei for rain—but there are so many nuclei, they never condense sufficient water on them to get heavy enough to fall out of the sky, at least not right away. They just stay up there as water vapor, drifting with the air currents, creating drought conditions below. Given enough exposure to moisture over time, they will condense sufficiently to form rain. Due to the significantly higher volume of nuclei, will have a much higher “rain density” than a natural storm, so when it rains, it pours—the superstorm. This creates an unnatural dichotomy; upwind you will have drought, downwind you will have excessive rain.

    Also, nanoparticle vapor could be knocked out of the sky with an application of RF energy to shake things up a bit and cause condensation and rain. Thermal vibration causes collisions, and collisions have the tendency to merge particles. Experiments along this nature has been conducted by Arco Power Technologies30 over the years for weather modification that resulted in HAARP, which had all the tools to do this. These metals in the upper atmosphere made it incredibly simple to control the weather, planet-wise. If you control the weather, you control the world.

    Controlling the world through weather has its own side-effects, particularly since it tends to poison all the life on the planet. In order to keep things going—and under their control—the genetic makeup of life had to be altered to be tolerant to the new, planetary climate—particularly aluminum and barium (natural strontium is actually beneficial—makes better bones than calcium).

    One of the things that must be kept in mind is that this started in the 1950s. It has been in progress for some time and if you think all those cattle mutilations were done by ETs with anal probes, think again. Cows have blood and organs that are compatible with homo sapiens. Great for genetic experimentation. Once the basics were worked out, they moved to humans, trying to find a better genetic design for man to live in this new, artificially-created environment that will continue to exist after the solar transition. This gave rise to all the UFO stories about human-alien hybrids. It was all just part of the genetic engineering that had to go hand-in-hand with the geoengineering.

    If you look at all the weird UFO stuff going on over the last 60 years, most of it was nothing more than steps towards the focus of creating an artificial world and artificial population, to continue 3rd density life on the Earth after the solar transition.

    And it was not just people. Long-term food sources had to be adjusted to remain viable in the artificial environment, and that's where your good friends at Monsanto came in with their drought-resistant, toxic chemical resistant, GMO foods. Sure, experiment with the mass population to find the good strains for the people who deserve them. And make sure you have HIPAA and “health care” to get all that genetic data back to the computers, to determine what worked and what didn't. After all, they're not collecting mountains of medical data, they are protecting your privacy!

    They are really quite happy now with their little, artificial empire and are engaging in all the stalling tactics they can. The solar transition is already under way and all they have to do is keep the masses distracted long enough for the good stuff to start so they can lock themselves away in their underground bases and let the rest of us burn.

    Or so they think. To quote Dr. Malcolm from Jurassic Park… “Life will find a way…”


    Footnotes;
    12 Described in detail in Prof. KVK Nehru's paper, “Glimpses into the Structure of the Sun.” See footnote 28.

    13 The reason for the excess dust in the solar system is not clear, but astronomers have known it was coming for over 50 years. New Agers have billed it as the photon belt, but it is more likely to be just nebular dust or a protostar that is intersecting the plane of our solar system. As our sun, part of the Sagittarius Dwarf, intersects the plane of the Milky Way, such occurrences are very probable.

    14 These bright flashes of the sun have been reported since 2010 at the higher altitudes, where the atmosphere is thinner and there is no pollution/smog layer. The increased intensity (flash) lasts for several minutes to several hours and tends to be laser-like, causing peculiar damage in a small area, such the sudden death of plants and trees (leaves are burned to a crisp) or the cracking of car windshields.

    15 NASA spots giant, triangle-shaped dark spot on sun.

    16 Mythological references to “three days of darkness” may have their origin here.

    17 This has been recorded in mythology as occurring a number of times, from the 260 days, to 360, to our current 365 day year.

    18 Peret, Bruce, “At the Earth's Core: The Geophysics of Planetary Evolution”, Reciprocity XXVII, № 1 (Spring, 1998).


    19 Larson gave many lectures to NASA back in the 1960s when they were trying to get into space—so highly probable they know what is going on; at least in the upper echelon.

    20 After discovering that the ionosphere reacted strongly to HAARP transmissions, the project was militarized (see US Patent 4,686,605, “Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere”) and can now create ionospheric lenses that can be used to focus the sun's rays on a specific area, causing a localized rise in ground, ocean or atmospheric temperatures. This updraft creates a low pressure system at low altitudes and a high pressure system at high altitudes, and can be used to modify the flow of weather patterns.

    21 Alex Jones of InfoWars.com reported these underground cities are large enough for 80,000 people with supplies for 30 years.

    22 What they found “out there” will be addressed in a separate paper. Mankind is far from alone and not well received.

    23 Corporatocracy is the rule by corporations.

    24 The aircraft observed dumping “chemtrails” are normally at 35,000-40,000 feet—6½ to 7½ miles.

    25 Could not make it orbital, as solar radiation would vaporize aluminum and blow it away with the solar wind.

    26
    They use to list CRTs as highly toxic because of this—if you broke one you had to make sure not to touch the broken glass, as it was considered poisonous.

    27 Abundant iron provides a generous growth medium for ferrous-feeding bacterias, particularly MAC (mycobacterium avium complex), which is the cause of many respiratory problems these days. Just a convenient side-effect for the pharmaceutical companies to profit on.

    28 http://planefinder.net/ , which tracks every plane with a transponder—the volume of air traffic is amazing, to say the least.

    29 Global dimming on Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming for some propaganda on global dimming, but right now, about 20% of the sunlight is being blocked.

    30 APTI, Inc., the company that built HAARP, is assignee on patents, such as:5,202,689: Lightweight focusing reflector for space,5,041,834: Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be tilted,4,999,637: Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth,4,873,928: Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation.

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    Default Re: Why In The World Are They Spraying? A geoengineering explanation for chemtrails

    But...

    ... what if the above alternate explanation is still some sort of cover up for something about as nasty?

    So, here is another alternate explanation:


    Chemtrails? Contrails? Strange Skies
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    © NASA
    Contrails as seen from space: the fact that now the contrails persists for so long is in itself a sign that something is not going well, but it's NOT evidence they are "chemtrails."


    A few things that should be considered when talking about so-called "chemtrails":

    1) Obviously, there is some "spraying" that goes on and it's not for the benefit of humanity. I've heard a few stories from people about very low flying planes dispersing stuff that lands all over everything or makes people sick. And I do mean LOW flying.

    2) Spraying that actually affects a designated area beneath the sprayer (the plane in question) must be at a fairly low altitude otherwise what is sprayed will not come down on the area beneath the spraying. This is due to the fact that our atmosphere has a number of layers and each layer has its own temperature and wind speed and direction, and very often, things in one layer take a very long time and distance to mix or mingle with other layers, IF they mix at all. Usually, the wind speeds in the upper layers are such that anything deposited there might only penetrate to lower, weather, layers, after many thousands of miles of travel. It's a very nonlinear situation and highly, impossibly, unpredictable.

    3) So, if you are talking about chemical spraying that you can see above in the sky, that then falls on the area below it, you must be talking about low altitude spraying.

    4) Therefore, trails that are very high in the sky that have no hope of ever interacting with the ground below them cannot properly be called "chemtrails" except, perhaps, if a chemical is being sprayed that is supposed to affect the weather (and even that is done fairly low). Cloud seeding is done by dispersing elements such as dry ice crystals or silver iodide in the atmosphere with an airplane or even ground based stations. Seeding clouds is believed to promote condensation of water droplets, thus, rain.

    5) Cloud seeding is usually done TO clouds, it doesn't create them. Plus, it, too, must be done at a fairly low altitude in order for the effects to affect the area below the activity. Otherwise, the higher wind speeds in the upper layers will carry the silver iodide away, disperse it, and the desired effect will not be had. Here's a page about cloud seeding: http://www.sandylandwater.com/ops.htm

    6) Small private planes fly at 12,000 feet maximum. Passenger airliners fly from 25,000 to 45,000 feet. The Concorde super-sonic transport cruised at Mach 2 at 57,000 feet. Miltary fighters get up to 80,000 feet, some specialty planes such as The U2 spy plane and the SR-71 are thought to go as high as 120,000 feet. the x-15 has a ceiling of 354,000 feet.

    7) From Wikipedia:

    A chart showing the atmospheric levels and types of clouds that forms at those levels. Click to enlarge

    Cirrus clouds generally refer to atmospheric clouds that are characterized by thin, wisp-like strands, often accompanied by tufts, leading to their common (non-standard) name of mare's tail.[1] Sometimes these clouds are so extensive that they are virtually indistinguishable from one another, forming a sheet of cirrus called cirrostratus. Sometimes convection at high altitudes produces another form of cirrus called cirrocumulus, a pattern of small cloud tufts which include droplets of freezed water. The term is also used for certain interstellar clouds composed of sub-micrometre sized dust grains.[2]
    Many cirrus clouds produce hair like filaments made of the heavier ice crystals that precipitate from them. These "fall streaks", a form of virga, often indicate the difference in the motion of air (wind shear) between the upper part of the cirrus cloud and the air below it. Sometimes the top of the cirrus cloud is moving rapidly above a slower layer of air, or the streak is falling into a faster moving lower layer. The directions of these winds can also vary.

    Cirrus clouds are formed when water vapor freezes into ice crystals at altitudes above 8000 meters (26,000 ft).[3] Due to the sparse moisture at a high altitude, they tend to be very thin.[1] At this altitude, aircraft leave condensation trails that can turn into cirrus clouds.[4] This happens when hot exhaust, mostly water, freezes, leaving a visible trail. Streaks may appear straight when wind shear is absent, giving the clouds the appearance of a comma (cirrus uncinus), or tangle, an indication of high-level turbulence. The falling ice crystals evaporate before reaching the ground.


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    A sky covered with cirrus clouds.



    Cirrus clouds cover up to 30% of the Earth and have a net heating effect. Cirrus clouds efficiently absorb outgoing infrared radiation (heat) beneath them (greenhouse effect), while only marginally reflecting incoming sunlight (albedo).[5]

    A high number of cirrus clouds may be a sign of an approaching frontal system or upper air disturbance. This usually signals a change in weather in the near future, usually becoming increasingly stormy.[6] Cirrus clouds can also be the remnants of a thunderstorm. A large shield of cirrus and cirrostratus typically accompany the high altitude outflow of hurricanes or typhoons. Cirrus clouds have also been observed developing after the persistent formation of contrails from an aircraft. Increase in air traffic is a possible cause of an increasing amount of cirrus clouds.[7]
    8) Now, what is wrong with the picture presented above?

    Answer: the altitude of cirrus clouds vs the altitude of many jetliners that criss-cross the skies with trails which are obviously much lower than the altitude designated for cirrus clouds.

    YET the trails left by these aircraft ACT like cirrus clouds used to act at much higher altitudes.

    Most logical (and scariest) conclusion: the cold layer of the upper atmosphere has gotten lower and probably thicker and therefore, more airplanes flying at lower altitudes are forming contrails in that icy air which used to be the much higher domain of cirrus clouds.

    Because, again, if you understand about the layers of the atmosphere, temperatures, winds, etc, then you will realize that what is happening is NOT spraying of the human population or even intentional weather manipulation, it is the EVIDENCE that our planetary atmosphere has changed dramatically in the past ten years or so. More like 20 because that was when I began noticing the changes in cloud formation.

    9) Also notice that the trails left by planes at much LOWER altitudes, generally dissipate quickly. What is bad news is that they leave ANY trail at all at those altitudes! (And knowing how layers that form cirrus clouds function from the above, you can pretty well understand that they are not spraying stuff on the ground below.) But certainly, there CAN be the natural formation of cirrus clouds by plane exhaust or fuel dumping AND low level spraying of "stuff" at the same time. I would suggest that such cases are "cover up" the same way the endless "gray alien abductions" are a cover-up for what aliens are REALLY doing on this planet.

    For example, this very stupid video that is claimed to be "cloud seeding":


    It is not. What it is, is evidence that the atmosphere layer that the plane is flying through is very cold. Now, whether that is a problem or not depends on where and what time of year the video was made. In some cases, cold air that low would not be out of season, so to say.

    10) Do these activities have any effect on the weather?

    Undoubtedly they do. But that is not intentional. See above discussion of cirrus clouds where the net effect is HEATING of the atmosphere.

    What seems to be happening is that the area of weather phenomena - the troposphere - seems to have been compressed by an expanding (or dropping) stratosphere and the stratosphere itself seems to have changed it's characteristics.

    THIS is VERY concerning!

    These are signs and symptoms, along with many others that we have chronicled on SOTT, that something very unusual is going on in our cosmic neighborhood because weather changes are taking place on other planets, too. I can guarantee you that they aren't doing "chemtrails" on Mars or Jupiter or Saturn.

    11) If you study the work of James McCanney, you will come to the understanding that the 5 layers of the Earth's atmosphere are also layers of alternating electrical charge. THIS IS IMPORTANT. McCanney also discusses how these electric flows around and on the earth interact with the sun to create our weather/climate. Piers Corbyn is becoming famous for utilizing similar principles for far more accurate weather predictions than the mainstream climatologists are able to work up. The fact that Corbyn CAN predict the weather as accurately as he does argues against the "chemtrails" being a weather modification activity. His method is concerned with solar activity, not so-called "chemtrails".

    12) Regarding these layers of electromagnetism surrounding the Earth, in 1958 some things were done that may very well have a strong bearing on the conditions of our planet in the present day. I would like for you to think about this in respect of climate change, so-called "chem-trails" and HAARP.
    "Between August and September of 1958, the US Navy exploded three fission type nuclear bombs 480 km above the South Atlantic Ocean, in the part of the lower Van Allen Belt closest to the earth's surface. In addition, two hydrogen bombs were detonated 160 km over Johnston Island in the Pacific. The military called this "the biggest scientific experiment ever undertaken." It was designed by the US Department of Defense and the US Atomic Energy Commission, under the code name Project Argus. The purpose appears to be to assess the impact of high altitude nuclear explosions on radio transmission and radar operations because of the electromagnetic pulse (EMP), and to increase understanding of the geomagnetic field and the behavior of the charged particles in it. This gigantic experiment created new (inner) magnetic radiation belts encompassing almost the whole earth, and injected sufficient electrons and other energetic particles into the ionosphere to cause world wide effects. The electrons traveled back and forth along magnetic force lines, causing an artificial "aurora" when striking the atmosphere near the North Pole. This was reported only much later, on August 13-20th of 1961 in Keesings Historisch Archief (K.H.A.). The report said that the US Military planned to create a "telecommunications shield in the ionosphere at 3,000 km height, by bringing into orbit 350,000 million copper needles, each 2-4 cm long [total weight 16 kg], forming a belt 10 km thick and 40 km wide, the needles spaced about 100 m apart." This was designed to replace the ionosphere "because telecommunications are impaired by magnetic storms and solar flares." The US planned to add to the number of copper needles if the experiment proved to be successful. This plan was strongly opposed by the International Union of Astronomers."

    Then:
    On July 9th, 1962, the US began a further series of experiments with the ionosphere. From their description: "one kiloton device, at a height of 60 km and one megaton and one multi-megaton, at several hundred kilometers height". (K.H.A., 29 June 1962).
    These tests seriously disturbed the lower Van Allen Belt, substantially altering its shape and intensity. "In this experiment the inner Van Allen Belt will be practically destroyed for a period of time; particles from the Belt will be transported to the atmosphere. It is anticipated that the earth's magnetic field will be disturbed over long distances for several hours, preventing radio communication. The explosion in the inner radiation belt will create an artificial dome of polar light that will be visible from Los Angeles". (K.H.A. 11 May 1962).

    This was the experiment which called forth the strong protest of the Queen's Astronomer, Sir Martin Ryle in the UK. On the 19th of July... NASA announced that as a consequence of the high altitude nuclear test of July 9th, a new radiation belt had been formed, stretching from a height of about 400 km to 1600 km; it can be seen as a temporary extension of the lower Van Allen Belt" (K.H.A. 5 August 1962).

    "... Starfish made a much wider belt [than Project Argus] that extends from low altitude out past L=3 [i.e. three earth radiuses or about 13,000 km above the surface of the earth]."Later in 1962, the USSR undertook similar planetary experiments, creating three new radiation belts between 7,000 and 13,000 km above the earth. According to the Encyclopedia, the electron fluxes in the lower Van Allen Belt have changed markedly since the 1962 high-altitude nuclear explosions by the US and USSR, never returning to their former state. According to American scientists, it could take many hundreds of years for the Van Allen Belts to destabilize at their normal levels."
    Keep in mind now that, while they are out there blowing up our atmosphere, they want to blame Global Warming on the masses of regular people!

    My backyard overlooks the Pyrenees, the crossroads for air traffic between Europe and Africa, South America and Spain, Northern Europe, England, Scandinavia, and Southern Europe and Africa. It's a very busy place. I sit at my desk beside a window that overlooks this sky and I look out this window many times per day and notice the sky in all humors. The following photographs I took from my backyard are of CONTRAILS made by high volume air traffic that, on some days, leaves lingering trails due to the conditions in the stratosphere. Those conditions can be correlated with conditions in the troposphere as well as the weather before, during and after the days when these trails form and linger so long. If I was a hysterical, brainwashed nutjob, I would think I was being poisoned. But I know what they are, I have observed them for hours and days on end and have a memory of similar phenomena on a much smaller scale - and much less frequent because the planetary conditions were different - when I was growing up. Believe me, they are CONTRAILS...


    Changes in the atmospheric conditions have led to skies more and more busy in recent times.


    © Laura Knight-Jadczyk


    © Laura Knight-Jadczyk


    © Laura Knight-Jadczyk
    ¡CONTRAIL not "chemtrail"!


    © Laura Knight-Jadczyk


    © Laura Knight-Jadczyk

    During the 1980's, rocket launches globally numbered about 500 to 600 a year, peaking at 1500 in 1989. There were many more during the Gulf War. The Shuttle is the largest of the solid fuel rockets, with twin 45 meter boosters. All solid fuel rockets release large amounts of hydrochloric acid in their exhaust, each Shuttle flight injecting about 75 tons of ozone destroying chlorine into the stratosphere. Those launched since 1992 inject even more ozone-destroying chlorine, about 187 tons, into the stratosphere (which contains the ozone layer).

    I'm reading a paper about cometary impacts which has some information that bears on our topic and I think we can trust it since it is not being produced in a program to disinform relative to so-called chemtrails.

    The first thing of interest is the main historically known large body which impacted the Earth: the Tunguska object. What is important to us in relation to chemtrails is that this object exploded in the atmosphere in June 1908 and for many nights afterward the sky was unusually luminous over Europe and western Asia, allowing people to read newspapers at night.

    When scientists finally made it to the remote site in 1927, no visible fragments of the exploded body were found. Later field work uncovered peculiar black, shiny, metallic spheres in the soil of numerous small, shallow, oval craters - 50 to 200 meters diameter - similar to the craters of the Carolina Bays. These spheres were typical of extraterrestrial bodies having a composition very high in iridium, nickel, cobalt and other metals.



    © Unknown
    Trees flatten outwards in a central location of remote Siberia above which the cometary fragment exploded on the upper atmosphere in 1908

    Now, here is where the connection comes in: An unusually high content of these same metals were later found in Antarctic ice cores, but in the layer relating to the year 1912.

    That is to say, it took four years for the stuff deposited in the stratosphere to precipitate onto Earth.

    From the Antarctic data, global fallout of 7 million tons was estimated for the Tunguska body which means that it's diameter would have been about 160 meters.

    The dust from such objects exploded in the stratosphere diffuses over the globe and it usually takes a period of about three to six months for this to happen. The time that it takes for anything in the stratosphere to get to the ground is about 3 years (or more) and that is "independent of the initial amount of dust {or whatever}." Also, there are so many atmospheric variables that it cannot be determined where the stuff will go.

    That is, materials injected into the stratosphere do NOT precipitate onto the ground under which it is "laid" (as in so-called chemtrails) except, perhaps, almost accidentally, and much, much later.

    Again, this has no bearing on spraying that takes place at much lower altitudes, as in the troposphere, but clearly, what is going on in the stratosphere is NOT "chemtrails."

    I think that I have presented more than sufficient food for thought on the topic of so-called "chemtrails" to suggest that, yes, there is something really wicked going on, but it ain't what you think. In fact, it's worse. YES, something is VERY wrong in our skies - but it is not chemtrails. The CONTRAILS themselves have changed and THAT is a huge warning about our atmosphere and our climate and the implications are a lot scarier than if some nutjobs in the Pentagon were just trying to poison us. Heck, we could survive that. Most of life on earth will NOT survive what these contrails portend!

    Laura Knight-Jadczyk

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    Now...

    ... what if... it's BOTH?
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    To add the reference to the changes taking place in the upper atmosphere:


    A Puzzling Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere

    July 15, 2010: NASA-funded researchers are monitoring a big event in our planet's atmosphere. High above Earth's surface where the atmosphere meets space, a rarefied layer of gas called "the thermosphere" recently collapsed and now is rebounding again.


    Layers of Earth's upper atmosphere. Credit: John Emmert/NRL. [larger image]

    "This is the biggest contraction of the thermosphere in at least 43 years," says John Emmert of the Naval Research Lab, lead author of a paper announcing the finding in the June 19th issue of the Geophysical Research Letters (GRL). "It's a Space Age record."

    The collapse happened during the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009—a fact which comes as little surprise to researchers. The thermosphere always cools and contracts when solar activity is low. In this case, however, the magnitude of the collapse was two to three times greater than low solar activity could explain.

    "Something is going on that we do not understand," says Emmert.

    The thermosphere ranges in altitude from 90 km to 600+ km. It is a realm of meteors, auroras and satellites, which skim through the thermosphere as they circle Earth. It is also where solar radiation makes first contact with our planet. The thermosphere intercepts extreme ultraviolet (EUV) photons from the sun before they can reach the ground. When solar activity is high, solar EUV warms the thermosphere, causing it to puff up like a marshmallow held over a camp fire. (This heating can raise temperatures as high as 1400 K—hence the name thermosphere.) When solar activity is low, the opposite happens.

    Lately, solar activity has been very low. In 2008 and 2009, the sun plunged into a century-class solar minimum. Sunspots were scarce, solar flares almost non-existent, and solar EUV radiation was at a low ebb. Researchers immediately turned their attention to the thermosphere to see what would happen.

    These plots show how the density of the thermosphere (at a fiducial height of 400 km) has waxed and waned during the past four solar cycles. Frames (a) and (c) are density; frame (b) is the sun's radio intensity at a wavelength of 10.7 cm, a key indicator of solar activity. Note the yellow circled region. In 2008 and 2009, the density of the thermosphere was 28% lower than expectations set by previous solar minima. Credit: Emmert et al. (2010), Geophys. Res. Lett., 37, L12102.


    How do you know what's happening all the way up in the thermosphere?
    Emmert uses a clever technique: Because satellites feel aerodynamic drag when they move through the thermosphere, it is possible to monitor conditions there by watching satellites decay. He analyzed the decay rates of more than 5000 satellites ranging in altitude between 200 and 600 km and ranging in time between 1967 and 2010. This provided a unique space-time sampling of thermospheric density, temperature, and pressure covering almost the entire Space Age. In this way he discovered that the thermospheric collapse of 2008-2009 was not only bigger than any previous collapse, but also bigger than the sun alone could explain.

    One possible explanation is carbon dioxide (CO2).


    An NCAR video shows how carbon dioxide warms the lower atmosphere, but cools the upper atmosphere. [more]

    When carbon dioxide gets into the thermosphere, it acts as a coolant, shedding heat via infrared radiation. It is widely-known that CO2 levels have been increasing in Earth's atmosphere. Extra CO2 in the thermosphere could have magnified the cooling action of solar minimum.

    "But the numbers don't quite add up," says Emmert. "Even when we take CO2 into account using our best understanding of how it operates as a coolant, we cannot fully explain the thermosphere's collapse."

    According to Emmert and colleagues, low solar EUV accounts for about 30% of the collapse. Extra CO2 accounts for at least another 10%. That leaves as much as 60% unaccounted for.

    In their GRL paper, the authors acknowledge that the situation is complicated. There's more to it than just solar EUV and terrestrial CO2. For instance, trends in global climate could alter the composition of the thermosphere, changing its thermal properties and the way it responds to external stimuli. The overall sensitivity of the thermosphere to solar radiation could actually be increasing.

    "The density anomalies," they wrote, "may signify that an as-yet-unidentified climatological tipping point involving energy balance and chemistry feedbacks has been reached."

    Or not.

    Important clues may be found in the way the thermosphere rebounds. Solar minimum is now coming to an end, EUV radiation is on the rise, and the thermosphere is puffing up again. Exactly how the recovery proceeds could unravel the contributions of solar vs. terrestrial sources.

    "We will continue to monitor the situation," says Emmert.

    For more information see Emmert, J. T., J. L. Lean, and J. M. Picone (2010), Record-low thermospheric density during the 2008 solar minimum, Geophys. Res. Lett., 37, L12102.

    See also:

    Earth's Upper Atmosphere Cooling Dramatically
    Earth's Shrinking Atmosphere Baffles Scientists
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    About the "Red Rain":


    Red Rain in India May Have Alien Origin
    By Arshdeep Sarao
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    Created: August 6, 2012
    Last Updated: August 11, 2012



    This red rain sample from 2001 contains a thick suspension of cells that lack DNA and may originate from cometary fragments. (Godfrey Louis/CUSAT)

    A rare shower of red rain fell for about 15 minutes in the city of Kannur, Kerala, India, early on June 28. Local residents were perturbed, but this is not the first time the state has experienced colored rain.

    This strange phenomenon was first recorded in Kerala a few hours after a meteor airburst in July 2001, when a space rock exploded in the atmosphere. More than 120 such rain showers were reported that year, including yellow, green, and black ones.

    Astrobiologist Godfrey Louis, pro vice-chancellor at nearby Cochin University of Science and Technology (CUSAT), has studied samples of red rainwater in 2001 and discovered strange properties, including autofluorescence—light that is naturally emitted by cell structures like mitochondria.

    Scientific analysis showed the striking red coloration is due to microscopic particles resembling biological cells, possibly originating from comet fragments.

    Louis believes these cells could be extra-terrestrial because existing theories already hypothesize that comets may have a hot water core with chemical nutrients able to support microbial growth.

    “Such comets can break into fragments as they near the sun during their travel along highly elliptical orbits,” he told The Epoch Times via email. “These fragments can remain in orbit and later can enter Earth’s atmosphere periodically.”

    According to Louis, red particles in the atmosphere from a fragmented meteor probably seeded the red rain clouds.


    A red cell as seen with transmission electron microscopy. (Godfrey Louis/CUSAT)

    “There can be roughly of the order of 100 million cells in one liter of red rain water,” he said. “The red rain can appear like black coffee if the concentration of the cells increases in the rain water.”

    These “alien” cells resemble normal cells, but lack conventional biological molecules like DNA, and are expected to have different biochemistry.

    “Unlike other biological cells, these red rain microbes can withstand very high temperatures,” Louis explained. ”It is possible to culture them at temperatures as high as 300 degrees centigrade [572 degrees Fahrenheit].”

    Even the toughest known heat-loving bacteria on Earth cannot withstand the same hot conditions as the red cells.

    “Currently known conventional hyper-thermophilic microbes do not survive culturing beyond 122 degrees centigrade [252 degrees Fahrenheit].”

    Louis has also studied yellow rain, and says it contains some unknown dissolved materials but no red cells.

    “Yellow rain and red rain are related as both show an unusual characteristic: autofluorescence,” he said. “It is inferred that the materials dissolved in the yellow rain are the biological byproducts of these micro-organisms.”

    Researchers are attempting to identify the molecular components in the red cells and to provide more insights into colored rain.

    Read Louis’ research paper on the red rains in 2001 here.

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    In favor of cometary/space dust:


    Noctilucent clouds appear out of season and far to the south - cometary dust from the Russian meteor blast?
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    From 19-21 February 2013, noctilucent clouds were observed in the UK, Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands. Since these clouds are usually only seen in summer, it is suspected that they may be the result of comet dust deposited in the upper atmosphere by the Chelyabinsk/Chebarkul meteor or comet fragment explosion over Southern Russia on 15 February.

    The following images were submitted to spaceweather.com


    © Terry Parker, Image taken by Terry Parker on Feb. 20, 2013 from above Birmingham, UK. 'I am an airline pilot in the UK and I occasionally see noctilucent clouds. Usually during the summer at about midnight looking North. But yesterday (20 Feb 13) I was very surprised to see them looking south towards France and so close to sunrise.'



    © Tom Axelsen, Photo by Tom Axelsen, Copenhagen area, Denmark

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    Wikipedia:

    Noctilucent cloud

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Polar mesospheric cloud

    Noctilucent clouds over Kuresoo bog, Viljandimaa, Estonia


    Night clouds or noctilucent clouds are tenuous cloud-like phenomena that are the "ragged-edge" of a much brighter and pervasive polar cloud layer called polar mesospheric clouds in the upper atmosphere, visible in a deep twilight. They are made of crystals of water ice. Noctilucent roughly means night shining in Latin. They are most commonly observed in the summer months at latitudes between 50° and 70° north and south of the equator. They can only be observed when the Sun is below the horizon.

    They are the highest clouds in the Earth's atmosphere, located in the mesosphere at altitudes of around 76 to 85 kilometres (47 to 53 mi). They are normally too faint to be seen, and are visible only when illuminated by sunlight from below the horizon while the lower layers of the atmosphere are in the Earth's shadow. Noctilucent clouds are not fully understood and are a recently-discovered meteorological phenomenon; there is no record of their observation before 1885.


    Formation
    Night clouds or noctilucent clouds are composed of tiny crystals of water ice up to 100 nm in diameter[1] and exist at a height of about 76 to 85 km (47 to 53 mi),[2] higher than any other clouds in Earth's atmosphere.[3] Clouds in the Earth's lower atmosphere form when water collects on particles, but mesospheric clouds may form directly from water vapour[4] in addition to forming on dust particles.[5]

    The sources of both the dust and the water vapour in the upper atmosphere are not known with certainty. The dust is believed to come from micrometeors, although particulates from volcanoes and dust from the troposphere are also possibilities. The moisture could be lifted through gaps in the tropopause, as well as forming from the reaction of methane with hydroxyl radicals in the stratosphere.[6]

    The exhaust from Space Shuttles, which is almost entirely water vapour after the detachment of the Solid Rocket Booster at a height of about 46 km, has been found to generate minuscule individual clouds. About half of the vapour is released into the thermosphere, usually at altitudes of 103 to 114 km (64 to 71 mi).[7]

    This exhaust can be transported to the Arctic region in little over a day, although the exact mechanism of this very high-speed transport is unknown. As the water migrates northward, it falls from the thermosphere down into the colder mesosphere, which occupies the region of the atmosphere just below.[8] Although this mechanism is the cause of individual noctilucent clouds, it is not thought to be a major contributor to the phenomenon as a whole.[6]

    As the mesosphere contains very little moisture, approximately one hundred millionth that of air from the Sahara desert,[9] and is extremely thin, the ice crystals can only form at temperatures below about −120 °C (−184 °F).[6] This means that noctilucent clouds form predominantly during summer when, counterintuitively, the mesosphere is coldest,[10] therefore they can't be observed (even if they are present) inside the Polar circles because the Sun is never low enough under the horizon at this season at these latitudes.[11] Noctilucent clouds form mostly near the polar regions,[5] because the mesosphere is coldest there.[11] Clouds in the southern hemisphere are about 1 km (0.62 mi) higher than those in the northern hemisphere.[5]

    Ultraviolet radiation from the Sun breaks water molecules apart, reducing the amount of water available to form noctilucent clouds. The radiation is known to vary cyclically with the solar cycle and satellites have been tracking the decrease in brightness of the clouds with the increase of ultraviolet radiation for the last two solar cycles. It has been found that changes in the clouds follow changes in the intensity of ultraviolet rays by about a year, but the reason for this long lag is not yet known.[12]

    Noctilucent clouds are known to exhibit high radar reflectivity,[10] in a frequency range of 50 MHz to 1.3 GHz.[13] This behaviour is not well understood but a Caltech professor, Paul Bellan, has proposed a possible explanation: that the ice grains become coated with a thin metal film composed of sodium and iron, which makes the cloud far more reflective to radar,[10] although this explanation remains controversial.[14] Sodium and iron atoms are stripped from incoming micrometeors and settle into a layer just above the altitude of noctilucent clouds, and measurements have shown that these elements are severely depleted when the clouds are present. Other experiments have demonstrated that, at the extremely cold temperatures of a noctilucent cloud, sodium vapour can rapidly be deposited onto an ice surface.[15]


    Research published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters in June 2009 suggests that noctilucent clouds observed following the Tunguska Event are evidence that the impact was caused by a comet.[31][32]
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    when contrails dont disapate, they r chemtrails, or some form of spraying that does not disapate, i know about contrails, and i know the difference, im sure alot of folks think everything they see is a chemtrail but we are being presently educated, as I am and learning what is what, at first I thought this chemtrail issue was all an over dramatic group of folks that wanted / or needed some validation of something, but now i see for myself that it is happening and it is mroe true than i ever wanted to see or believe and face, all this is way out of our control other than for bringing it out to the masses, thats the only way we can expose it, bring it out, bring everything out in the open and let the public sift through it themselves lmao now there is a task at hand, i have some pics form yesterday that i will try and uplaod from the chattanooga area of tennessee, i hope i can get this uploaded corrector , this is my fist time adding pics to my replies so hang in there folks i apoligise for my newness to uploading pics on this forum,ill get it , stay well folks , peace,dennis p.s. all these pics were taken yesterday in the chattanooga area of tn.
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    I´d just like to add that the producers of "Why in the world are they spraying" encourage people to copy the film...

    and distribute copies....

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    What offends me about the spraying is not just the spraying itself, but of doing everything in secret (albeit in plane view - geddit? sorry...) without any explanation as to what they're doing and why they're doing it.

    I am almost certain they are being used for more than one reason, in addition to weather modification to counteract so-called global warming. They have been sprayed in the atmosphere in an attempt to protect electronic circuitry and semiconductors from atmospheric and solar radiation that causes them to fail. See this link.

    "In a paper presented to the US Air Force titled "Electromagnetic Pulse Threats in 2010", Major Colin R. Miller describes the dangers from atmospheric radiation which could shut down everything in America -- bringing us back to the stone age. Disruption of semiconductors in our present society could cause everything to cease -- from the basics like water and power to emergency services, all communication, transportation and our national security. He outlines vital importance of shielding of these circuits, both individually and globally."

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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    What offends me about the spraying is not just the spraying itself, but of doing everything in secret (albeit in plane view - geddit? sorry...) without any explanation as to what they're doing and why they're doing it.

    I am almost certain they are being used for more than one reason, in addition to weather modification to counteract so-called global warming. They have been sprayed in the atmosphere in an attempt to protect electronic circuitry and semiconductors from atmospheric and solar radiation that causes them to fail. See this link.

    "In a paper presented to the US Air Force titled "Electromagnetic Pulse Threats in 2010", Major Colin R. Miller describes the dangers from atmospheric radiation which could shut down everything in America -- bringing us back to the stone age. Disruption of semiconductors in our present society could cause everything to cease -- from the basics like water and power to emergency services, all communication, transportation and our national security. He outlines vital importance of shielding of these circuits, both individually and globally."
    ya know i think thats all a load of crap, they r doing it to kill the tress in the upper northwest which clean our air , the heavy metals will kill us and everything in its path, thus de-population, enough of this crap will kill the plants we are trying to grow to sustain ourselves, get the picture?

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    when contrails dont disapate, they r chemtrails, or some form of spraying that does not disapate...

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    That's a blanket statement that is not necessarily true as pointed out in post # 7 above and debated in this thread: Chemtrails don't exist

    The more I think of it in contrast to the stealth approach of the controllers to any of their goals, then making their geoengineering campaign THAT obvious doesn't make sense. I would think that by now they would have found ways to conceal their spraying into less visible manifestations in view of the large research budget they can muster.

    The alternative is that post # 7 is the closest to the reality of what's happening.
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=S0wve8O24Zw

    The above has been posted before, for those in doubt about our weather- he is messing with our weather.

    You cannot give rain to one country without altering the weather of another place, for every action there are consequences.

    I wonder how many people/ animals have died, starved ,committed suicide, because they are messing with our weather?
    SAD is a real condition, and for many it is the last straw.
    Not to mention the super hurricanes that have been launched on this good earth - people that mess with God's creation , take many lives.
    WE must send them our love and wish them light- to see what they are doing.

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    Regarding weather control:

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

    What was definitely NOT used:


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    Groningen, zondag 6 februari 2011
    Veteran weather modification expert Ben Livingston is a former Navy Physicist who briefed President Lyndon B. Johnson on the effectiveness of weather control back in the 1960's during the Vietnam era, when he was involved in cloud seeding programs that worked to slow down the advance of Vietnamese and Korean troops. Livingston asserts that hurricane control was a national priority of the government more than 40 years ago and that the technology was fully operational to control the weather at the time.




    In this exclusive interview, Livingston explains how for decades the US government has had the power to both lessen and increase the severity of adverse weather for their own purposes.

    Dr. Livingston was assigned in 1966 from the Naval weapons research Laboratory to a marine fighter squadron in Vietnam. Instead of guns, the aircraft under Livingston's control were fitted with cloud seeding equipment. "My mission was to find clouds and seed them for maximum precipitation value" he stated.

    Dr. Livingston presents evidence from the Stanford research Institute, who were brought into Project Storm Fury (a weather control program) in the late sixties as a third party, which stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life. Four decades later and Livingston exposes how the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina could have been greatly minimized but was allowed to fully impact Gulf states for political reasons.

    Having personally flown on 265 missions into the eyes of hurricanes, Livingston remarks that he was "disgusted" by the failure to lessen the impact of Katrina. Livingston's revelations that weather control has been a decades long program in which the US government has been deeply involved are particularly alarming given the abundant modern-day evidence of how chemtrails are being used to warp our environment in a secret geoengineering plot that threatens a myriad of unknown human health and ecological consequences.
    ************************************************************

    ... and so was Sandy allowed to strike at the maximum cranked up power that could be mustered to re-instilled some trust into the "medias"... "When we tell you to evacuate: just do it!"

    The following statement:

    Quote Project Storm Fury [...] stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life.
    ... carries with it the terrible corollary that, by the same token, they also know what starts or amplifies a storm into a hurricane... just pure, practical logic!

    Couple that with the report that military planes were flying around at the time Sandy hit the coast... along with the fact that storms are Navy's and Air Force's allies in demoralizing the "enemy" in any wars since Vietnam... who's the enemy now?

    Edit:

    Forgot to tie in that "Halloween" is the second in rank in the satanic calendar for sacrificial rituals...

    Edit II:

    This link works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKl9...layer_embedded
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    Here is what my take is on the whole psyop and cover-up laced with plausible deniability as well as to explain this comment of mine:

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [...]

    I personally think that most of the visible "chemtrails" are a secondary phenomenon with the actual spraying taking place at higher altitudes with the aerosols being disturbed when reaching flight paths when falling down.

    There was an article on this phenomenon but starting from cometary dust as seeds for "persisting" contrails by influencing the temperature of the upper atmosphere. My take is that a similar phenomenon is being used for the hiding of the actual spraying.

    So that, on the previous threads debating this chemtrails vs. contrails with experienced pilots; it may actually be that both side of that debate were right.

    There is no doubt as to what reaches the ground and there is no doubt that pilots are also sincere... therefore one may need to find out where the spraying actually takes place?

    I think the answer could be found in the geoengineering patent office...
    The idea stems from the proposal found in post # 7 above:

    Quote The report said that the US Military planned to create a "telecommunications shield in the ionosphere at 3,000 km height, by bringing into orbit 350,000 million copper needles, each 2-4 cm long [total weight 16 kg], forming a belt 10 km thick and 40 km wide, the needles spaced about 100 m apart." This was designed to replace the ionosphere "because telecommunications are impaired by magnetic storms and solar flares." The US planned to add to the number of copper needles if the experiment proved to be successful. This plan was strongly opposed by the International Union of Astronomers."
    If one takes into account the existence of a "Breakaway civilization Space Command Fleet" which could actually conduct, unobserved, a spraying very high up in the upper atmosphere where no commercial jets can fly in the altitude range suggested for the copper needles, then, when that aluminum, barium, strontium mix slowly comes down to where commercial jets do fly; the mixture creates these seeded contrails which persist.

    Commercial passenger flights are then blamed for the spraying of aerosols they have no clue how that would even be possible and therefore rightly consider whoever utter such nonsense as totally nuts.

    See?

    With this scenario, Fred259 is right in his analysis... debunkers are right about the mixture of aluminum, barium, strontium found on the ground and rain water... yet all are wrong regarding the persisting contrails!

    ... since they are seeded contrails by aerosols coming down from way higher up than passenger jet flight's corridors.

    That particular scenario would also greatly alter the physical properties of the upper atmosphere and therefore skew the interpretation given by Laura knight-Jadczyk although she is much closer to reality than anyone else as to what's happening to our skies.

    QED

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    Quote Posted by Fred259 (here)
    All perfectly normal.
    Maybe not!


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    Found this one on the UK GOV petition page for all brits to sign please

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