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    Default Re: Third-Party E-Cat Test Results Published (Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device)

    Live test of E-cat tomorrow for 8 hours as a part of the ICCF-18 (18th International Conf. on Cold Fusion)





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    Quote international conference on cold fusion

    From Sunday through Friday, MU will host the 18th International Conference on Cold Fusion. The conference will bring together scientists studying the potential for new forms of energy production.

    Since April 2012, MU has been home to the Sidney Kimmel Institute for Nuclear Renaissance, which funds research in the field of low energy nuclear reactions.

    This field grew out of the highly publicized "cold fusion" experiments conducted in 1989 by Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann at the University of Utah.

    Many in the scientific community accused Fleischmann and Pons of violating scientific ethics, mostly by presenting the results of their experiments without proper peer review.

    Public misunderstanding, the difficulty of reproducing Fleischmann’s and Pons’ results and the lack of an established theory that would explain their observations steered the study of low energy nuclear reactions into troubled waters almost as soon as it began.

    Today, some scientists maintain that their work has value and requires further scrutiny. Many of these scientists will be attending the conference.

    "There have been great advances in this discipline over the last five years by research labs and private institutions around the world," MU physics professor and Vice Chancellor for Research Robert Duncan wrote in the conference’s welcome letter. "The Naval Research Lab (NRL), and many other excellent laboratories have confirmed that the excess heat effects reported by Fleischmann and Pons are real, and roughly one thousand times larger than can be attributed to a chemical process."

    Here are some resources to learn more about the study of low energy nuclear reactions:
    ■The experiments by Pons and Fleischmann are presented in a primer compiled by "Understanding Science," a science communication effort developed by the University of California Museum of Paleontology and funded by the National Science Foundation. The article explains their experiment at a layperson level and makes a case that the two acted immorally.
    ■The two first revealed their conclusions to the general public at a 1989 press conference.
    ■David Kidwell, a scientist with the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, D.C., briefly summarizes his lab’s eight years of research into low energy nuclear reactions. Kidwell will deliver a keynote speech at the conference Monday morning.
    ■This 2009 report by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency summarizes the work being done on low energy nuclear reactions in labs around the world. It also gauges the implications of a breakthrough in understanding the processes behind the excess heat effect.
    ■In 2009, Duncan accompanied a "60 Minutes" crew to a lab in Israel (starting at 7:15 mark), where he observed low energy nuclear reaction experiments and weighed the evidence himself. "I found that the work done was carefully done, and that the excess heat, as I see it now, is quite real," he told reporter Scott Pelley. The video features interviews with several physicists and ends on an interview with Fleischmann.
    ■Edmund Storms, a scientist who worked for 34 for years at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, has been investigating low-energy nuclear reactions in his own lab since his retirement in 1991. He has compiled more than 4,000 papers on the subject, which are available at LENR-CANR.org. In "A Student’s Guide to Cold Fusion," he summarizes the state of the science and offers a guide for future studies. Storms will also be speaking Monday morning at the conference.
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    Slow and steady wins the race I guess? This is even more validating, an American firm has picked up rights to the technology.

    Quote Cold fusion tech picked up by major US partner, prepares for launch in the American and Chinese energy markets



    Cold fusion. The moment I type those words, I know that half of you will smile with excitement — while the other half will grab your pitchforks and chase me out of town. No other topic, perhaps with the exception of PS4 vs. Xbox One, has caused as much dissension amongst ExtremeTech readers. On the one hand, we have a technology that, if it works — if it can really produce unlimited amounts of cheap, green electricity — could change society forever. On the other hand, there are a lot of scientists who are adamant that the technology is snake oil — a scam that’s perpetuated by writers such as myself. On the off-chance that cold fusion does turn out to be the savior of civilization, though, I’m going to keep on writing about it. Today, the big news is that a large US investment company has acquired the rights to Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat cold fusion technology. That investment company, Cherokee Investment Partners, appears to be interested in deploying the cold fusion tech commercially in both China and the US.

    Cold fusion, also known as low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR), is a technology that promises to create huge amounts of green energy from very cheap fuel. In the case of Rossi’s E-Cat (Energy Catalyser), nickel and hydrogen are fused into copper — a process that has 10,000 times the energy density of gasoline, and 1,000 times the power density. For more background information on cold fusion/LENR, and why it’s safer and cleaner than normal nuclear reactors, read our previous E-Cat story. Suffice it to say, the scientific community’s main contention is whether this reaction is actually possible or not. Rossi says he’s found a special catalyst that makes it possible; lots of other scientists, though, claim it’s hogwash. (Read: 500MW from half a gram of hydrogen: The hunt for fusion power heats up.)



    Putting aside whether the tech actually works or not, it seems that the rights to Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat have been acquired by a US partner: Industrial Heat. Industrial Heat appears to be a new LLC set up by the CEO of Cherokee Investment Partners, Thomas Darden. Rossi had previously spoken about a mysterious American partner, but (in true Rossi fashion) had previously declined to say who that partner was — it’s now all but confirmed that Darden/Cherokee was the partner in question. Cherokee has previously worked in the energy sector, investing in solar power and waste-to-energy technology.

    Industrial Heat, according to a press release dated January 24, has been “preparing numerous patent applications” to protect its newly acquired cold fusion technology. The press release indicates that a key factor in the acquisition was the May 2013 research paper, compiled by independent scientists, who found that the E-Cat was producing “anomalous” amounts of energy. There are also reports that Darden recently visited China, to showcase the E-Cat to Chinese officials and businesspeople. China is reportedly looking at using the E-Cat to significantly reduce its carbon footprint. (Read: NASA’s cold fusion tech could put a nuclear reactor in every home, car, and plane.)

    While the Industrial Heat acquisition adds a lot of credence to Rossi’s claims, it’s still not scientific proof that LENR is actually occurring inside the E-Cat. Rossi says that he has a team of international scientists that are planning to do another round of tests on the E-Cat. Their tests should “end in March,” with a peer-reviewed report to follow sometime after that. The May 2013 study left a lot of questions unanswered, which in turn led to the authors’ conclusions being mostly dismissed. Hopefully this next study will finally prove that cold fusion is real.
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    Default Re: Third-Party E-Cat Test Results Published (Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device)

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    Default Re: Third-Party E-Cat Test Results Published (Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device)

    anyone has any new info on this? i am still amazed at how controlled info is about it.

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    Default Re: Third-Party E-Cat Test Results Published (Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device)

    Lots of interesting stuff in the energy field right now.

    Quote Historic event: One-year 1 megawatt E-Cat trial completed

    On February 17, 2016, a 350-day commercial test of a one megawatt heat plant based on Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat was completed. The event must be considered historic since it’s the first time an industrially useful amount of energy is produced over such a long time from this kind of yet unexplained radiation-free nuclear reaction—LENR or Low Energy Nuclear Reactions.

    To be clear, the report from the one-year trial, which has been controlled by a major independent third party certification institute, will be released only in about a month, and until then no official information is provided on the test result. However, multiple sources have told me that the test has been successful.

    Earlier, some sources having visited the test plant told me that the COP, Coefficient of Performance, i.e. the ratio between output power and input power for control, was in the range 20—80, meaning that the heat plant was consuming 12—50 kW while producing 1 MW—the average consumption of about 300 Western households, including electricity, space heating, water heating and air conditioning.

    I have also been told that the total amount of fuel—mostly harmless elements such as lithium, hydrogen and nickel, according to Andrea Rossi’s granted patent on the technology—was in the range of tenths of grams. And supposedly the charge has never been changed during the year. On the other hand, after one year’s run, the reactors are now being recharged for further operation.

    All this might be confirmed by the third party institute, that has been controlling the heat plant 24/7 with video cameras.

    The test has been undertaken by Andrea Rossi and his US industrial partner Industrial Heat, and according to Rossi, commercialisation of similar industrial heat plants will be initiated as soon as possible, provided that the result is positive. Industrial Heat has acquired the right to produce and sell E-Cat based technology in, as far as I have been told, North, Central and South America, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
    Needless to say, the consequences of such an energy source for the world will be huge. And the consequences for industry, finance and society is also the focus of the New Energy World Symposium or NewS, which will be held in Stockholm, Sweden, on June 21, 2016, provided that the report from the test is clearly positive.

    So, now we all wait for the report. Personally, however, I will put the champagne on ice. Now.
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    These guys are basically verifying it with their parallel studies.

    http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php...-in-the-signal
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    I'm willing to bet that a 'non performance' clause has been put in place in the contract for the rights of the e-cat, for that given partner.

    Meaning, if they sit on it and sell it to no one, even if they give Rossi lots of money for doing so ----they lose the rights.

    This is also playing into the whole thing about the middle east being 'caught on fire', as this religious/fascist/racist/totaltarian mess that is purposely being stirred and promoted in the middle east, is also about some form of engagement and mop up of a middle east under the huge threat of 'energy control-power loss'.

    In a world with free energy, oil power and all tied to it is going into free fall, which spells major chaos for those power groups and what backs them in the middle east. One of the first signs is a collapse of oil prices, partially as a last ditch attempt to vacuum up money and power (human energy, etc), before that door closes.

    Additionally, for those outside of the middle east who are in a different space and different social/economic condition...You can practically see the attempt to close the gauntlet on the human race ---in and of/by oligarchy, before the human race catches on to what is now happening.
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    In a world with free energy, oil power and all tied to it is going into free fall, which spells major chaos for those power groups and what backs them in the middle east. One of the first signs is a collapse of oil prices, partially as a last ditch attempt to vacuum up money and power (human energy, etc), before that door closes.

    Additionally, for those outside of the middle east who are in a different space and different social/economic condition...You can practically see the attempt to close the gauntlet on the human race ---in and of/by oligarchy, before the human race catches on to what is now happening.
    The middle east has been a one trick pony for a good while now, coming up on 100 years (funny how those 100~99 year contracts/cycles seem common) & the current oil destabilization with a possible long term future hits from solar, wind, alt-energy production, Canada is almost done with a molten salt thorium reactor licensing round, Germany and China are racing for fusion & Rossi has the Ecat (and the many other groups that are running similar LENR based groups), batteries are getting so much R&D money dumped into them that once that tech breaks free the cat will be out of the bag.

    I ride my motorcycle for free from my solar panels, this will be a very common thing soon (except cars/trucks).

    the energy consumption/production establishment is in for a very disruptive future.
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    Default Re: Third-Party E-Cat Test Results Published (Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device)

    I couldn't access the first link, and couldn't find the article you quoted at the second one.
    Got any better links? Thanks.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I couldn't access the first link, and couldn't find the article you quoted at the second one.
    Got any better links? Thanks.


    Mats Lewan Covers Conclusion of the 1 MW Plant Test
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    Here's the FB page of the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project:
    https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleis...oject/?fref=nf

    their main site is www.quantumheat.org
    Here's a bit on the (uncoordinated) corroboration efforts between Rossi and MFMP:
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    Interesting that this first website went down. I even gave it to a well known researcher.

    Somone is paying very close attention to this rossi e-cat thing.

    big time.

    I have other clues, like my near impossibility of posting such information and sharing it, in the past 24 hours. Even kicked off other forms and feeds, when I tried to post that information.

    Then the forum being down today from an apparent DDOS attack.

    Of all the things it could be tied to, I think this recent Rossi news is the real culprit.
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    Then the forum being down today from an apparent DDOS attack.

    Of all the things it could be tied to, I think this recent Rossi news is the real culprit.
    It is a rather quiet bit of "news" I can't find it many places...


    Though the forum going down, I don't know that was anything significant, or if it was it's a great sign since it only worked for less than an hour or so; the implications of your post are "a bridge too far" for me still.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Then the forum being down today from an apparent DDOS attack.

    Of all the things it could be tied to, I think this recent Rossi news is the real culprit.
    It is a rather quiet bit of "news" I can't find it many places...


    Though the forum going down, I don't know that was anything significant, or if it was it's a great sign since it only worked for less than an hour or so; the implications of your post are "a bridge too far" for me still.
    Just checked, it apparently was not a DDOS attack, but the forum did indeed go down as this was posted, and I did indeed suffer these posting problems (comment areas on forums, news site, etc).

    If that post, on that website, is now missing in action...and it was made on feb 15th, of the Rossi result and I did not find any posts anywhere that would lead me to it until now, then there IS INDEED , IMO...a definite dark and subtle motion to cap and control that data.

    My attempts to spread that data in the past 24 hours and the interruptions in those attempts, do definitely point to a direct clandestine attempt to control and stop the proliferation of that data.

    it's a "kill or poison the parent before the child is born' kind of logic to preventing the information from being proliferated.

    I cannot explain my total position and data as that is too revealing of who I am and what I'm doing, and that (reveal) is not going to happen.

    I'll give you one data point out of dozens:

    For example, a ridiculously common occurrence, is for a music video to exist for... lets say, 3 years. even 5 years. with maybe 2,000 or 5,000 views. No big deal.

    I post a link in the here and now thread.

    Within a month or two, the link is deleted for copyright violation.

    This has probably happened a good 20-30-50 times. over and over. It lasts years and years.

    A second point:

    Another known example that Bill and I noticed and remarked upon. When the whole Charles thing was going down. If I came onto the forum, and posted anything at all, even just one simple post (even supportive ones), it went entirely silent or broken (discussion and direction falls apart)....on his end. Over and over and over. Just with me. Me alone.

    third point:

    Every person who has bothered to venture a comment has said I'm the most intelligent person they have ever met. I've met (spoken with) probably.... a quarter million people in my life (worked with the public, off and on, since age 10). I've never met anyone who is my intellectual equal. Even in a given room full of university department heads, or, a building with 75-100 start up company offices... and is called a 'three sigma building'. (minimum average IQ of 145) Every single one of those companies and their secretive developments,..I can improve on them all, no matter the scientific basis of their avenue of inquiry. Even if i've never heard of it before. Usually in minutes. That's a near unbelievable thing to say and a very hard story to swallow. Except for those who've seen it in action.

    Scrutiny tends to occur for such people, as you might imagine. I get followed around all the time. people try to inject themselves into my life. They set up 'accidental' meetings at places I frequent.

    They'd need a spy type with an IQ of 160 to 170+ before they'd even stand a chance of me not seeing it.

    I spend a lot of my time making mirrored sarcastic Monty Pythonish jokes and related childish motions out of life, as that is what the whole damned thing feels like to me. all the time, in all things. A giant ****ing chimp caricature in motion. But they're all asleep, they are all in a hypnotic state, I sometimes think, when I see all people. Maybe one in a thousand, shows hints of being awake. Maybe. Less actually.

    Shoulda been a monk, but......that would be selfish and without risk. The easy way out.

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