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    Quote Posted by Iceberg (here)
    What I can add to this discussion is some verses of the Quran, what does it says about Jesus:
    Here are some more: (from https://www.clearquran.com/)

    (3.45) The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest.
    (3.46) He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.”
    (3.47) She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child, when no man has touched me?” He said, “It will be so. God creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.


    Conceived without physical earthly father by the word of God, therefor Son of God. If one knows the works of the holy Spirit of God, one will understand how. Not bound by universal physics regarding creation. We live in a simulation.

    (2.253) These messengers: We gave some advantage over others. To some of them God spoke directly, and some He raised in rank. We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear miracles, and We strengthened him with the Holy Spirit. Had God willed, those who succeeded them would not have fought one another, after the clear signs had come to them; but they disputed; some of them believed, and some of them disbelieved. Had God willed, they would not have fought one another; but God does whatever He desires.

    Clear miracles then, clear miracles now. Nothing changed. Jesus said:"Follow me". He was speaking to every individual. Holy Spirit is for every individual and essential for exaltation, and allows the miracles to come forth in Jesus' name. Did I mention Simulation?

    (3.55) God said, “O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing.
    (3.56) As for those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe punishment, in this world and the next, and they will have no helpers.
    (3.57) And as for those who believe and do good works, He will give them their rewards in full. God does not love the unjust.”


    Jesus is with God since resurrection by the holy Spirit of God. God exalted Jesus once in Heaven, and gave Him authority over Heaven and Earth. Definitely more than a prophet. That's why miracles happen in Jesus' name still, and more to come. It's easily verified: You can check Youtube for instance. Search e.g. "Healed by Jesus", "curado por Jesus", "Исцелен Иисусом" or "شفاه يسوع". See all the different hits, choose a couple no commercial ones of individuals. Have a look.
    "Punishment in this world and the next". Reincarnation is no joke. Blessed is he who takes time to understand and live according to what God deems righteous.
    Rewards e.g. are an exalted spirit, living in the same realm as God, the angels and the already exalted spirits, growing spiritually through lessons of other yet exalted spirits, assignments throughout different universes, and fun stuff like sports on supernatural level and drinking wine, as (de)materializing is part of the reward.

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    Quote Posted by Peter UK (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybird88 (here)
    If you mention the idea that Jesus might have been married, Christians (mainstream Christians) get really offended and angry, its evil! The Devil! And they give no explanation on why its such a heresy to entertain such an idea. If He was married how exacty does that undo anything He ever taught?
    It doesn't or shouldn't but I suspect for some Christians it adulterates in some way the notion of a virgin birth and the subsequent purity associated with that.
    Virgin used to mean 'one who has not bore children', not 'one who has never had sex'

    Subsequent purity?!? Well that's kind of offensive. I would have substituted the word 'horror' in place of purity.

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    Jesus was a Buddhist Monk BBC Documentary


    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Very interesting, and recommended for anyone who has a strong interest in this complex historical detective story.

    It's only after 37 minutes that the BBC documentary suggests the idea that Jesus was in India (which is what the title is about). Twice: aged 14-27, and then again after surviving the crucifixion, until his death aged around 75-80, in 80 AD. (I've personally visited his claimed tomb in Srinagar. Most interesting, too.)

    Before that, the video explores how he may well have survived the crucifixion (and might well have married Mary Magdalene), and takes a detour into Mary Magdalene's journey to southern France, which I'm personally convinced was where she went to live for many years after the crucifixion. (Whether she died there, or returned to the Holy Land at the end of her life, I'm not quite so sure.)

    There's much more about this in my extensive thread
    ... and this new thread might very fittingly be merged there.

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    It is very likely that "jesus" wandered into Asia Europe India
    and more, and received and gave to all those old traditions.

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    Mary Magdalene: Hidden Illumined One
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    "The book "Mary Magdalene, Hidden Illumined One: The Journey, the Legend, the Teachings can be found on Amazon"
    https://www.amazon.com/Mary-Magdalene...
    Each breath a gift...
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    Yes! This is what I believe of Jesus and Mary, hallelujah! I'm no Christian (not anymore), however, I wondered after reading the Da Vinci Code if there were a lot of truth in that story. I thought Jesus was a rebel for the greater good and Mary perhaps the real Messiah. I have heard of the book of Enoch and am curious what you think of the "Fallen Angels"? I don't necessarily think they are all evil, I do think they may be more neutral, rather like nature spirits. You?

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    Synchronicity.


    I was just discussing elements of the Jesus story with a friend this evening......and then this thread, from 7 years ago suddenly reappears.

    I take notice of synchronicities.

    This pure consciousness which was embedded into the Gaian holograph by those ancient, brave, heart souls which has been suppressed and manipulated by nefarious overlays, has now remerged and is dissolving these suppressions despite best efforts.

    Joy.
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    A fascinating update from Natural News, drawing on sources at Artifacts.news, LiveScience.com, and BibleStudyTools.com.
    Biblical texts tell rare stories of wizards, demons in disguise and a man crucified next to Jesus

    23 Sept, 2020

    Experts have recently compiled a series of apocryphal Biblical texts and translated them into English. For some of the texts, the compilation marks the first time they can be read in the language.

    Apocryphal texts refer to those stories that were not included in the canonical Bible. When the book was being compiled, Christians were debating which ones told the truth about Jesus Christ and which ones didn’t. The texts that made it to the book were those that were canonized by the Church.

    Here are some of the texts included in the recently published compilation, titled “New Testament Apocrypha: More Noncanonical Scriptures (Volume 2).” These three stories tell incredible tales of wizards, demons in disguise, and a man who was crucified beside Jesus.

    Battle against diabolical wizards

    This tale is about a battle between demonic wizards and a group of Christians led by Bishop Basil of Caeserea.

    According to the translated text, Bishop Basil was instructed by the Virgin Mary to retrieve an image of her and place it on top of two primordial columns, which were in a church in the Greek city of Philippi. The bishop’s group went to the temple and was confronted by wizards who were hell-bent on destroying the columns. A battle ensued between the two groups, culminating in the defeat of the wizards after “the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them.”

    The story was told in two texts, both from the Monastery of Saint Macarius the Great in Egypt. Paul Dilley, a professor of religious studies at the University of Iowa, translated the texts from Coptic, an Egyptian language that incorporates the Greek alphabet. He said that they were likely written around 1,500 years ago.

    Demons masquerading as angels

    This tale is about seven demons masquerading as angels.

    The story began with their capture; the Apostle Peter was suspicious of the “angels” and trapped them in a circle.

    He sought Heaven’s help to let him know if the angels really were creatures of evil. Six of them confessed, but the seventh demon challenged Peter, asking him why mortals were forgiven for their sins, but demons were not. It also said that humans ought to stop blaming the devil for their sins as “I have become weak and am without vigor.” Then, Peter let them go.

    Cambry Pardee, a visiting professor of religion at Pepperdine University in London, translated the text, which was likely written about 1,600 years ago. Pardee told Live Science that the story was fictitious, although it’s possible that some Christians believed it to be true.

    Dimas helps Jesus and his family escape

    This story is about Dimas, or Dismas/Dymas, the bandit who was crucified next to Jesus.

    Before he became a bandit thirty years ago, he worked as a border guard during the rule of King Herod, who wanted to kill baby Jesus. One night, Dimas was stationed with his father at the border between Judaea and Egypt. Shortly after the latter went away to do his rounds, Joseph and Mary arrived at the border carrying Jesus.

    Dimas was convinced by Joseph to let them go and gave them food as well. His father eventually found out and disowned him, commencing Dimas’ life as a bandit. He would be captured 30 years later when Pontius Pilate served as the governor of Judaea.

    Mark Bilby, a senior assistant librarian of scholarly communication and lecturer of Religious Studies at California State University, Fullerton, translated the text from Latin. He suspected that the story, which was written around the 12th or 13th century, was fictitious. (Related: Bible stories come to life: Archaeologists unearth extraordinary mosaic showing what might be Jesus feeding the 5,000 with five loaves.)

    Even though apocryphal texts weren’t part of the canonical Bible, they’re still considered valuable, especially for the people at the time. Tony Burke, a professor of early Christianity at York University in Toronto and the editor of the compilation, wrote, “Apocryphal texts were integral to the spiritual lives of Christians long after the apparent closing of the canon and that the calls to avoid and even destroy such literature were not always effective.”

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