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    Default Re: The Kundalini Is The Holy Spirit! What Your Church Doesn't Want You To Know

    Hi Ika
    I would not be inclined to force anything.
    You will most likely be led to what is best for you.
    Certainly Tantric, which is another interesting topic, recommends semen retention and on the point of ejaculation refraining from that and drawing the energy produced up the spine.

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    thanks chris.

    so this is actually a practiced tantric technique? great. just gained more interest on tantra.
    anyone ever do this? im really interested in personal feedback. what is the explanation/reason to practice this in tantra?

    ill try and find the answers for my questions online, but would appreciate your input.

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    Quote Posted by Ikarusion (here)
    thanks chris.

    so this is actually a practiced tantric technique? great. just gained more interest on tantra.
    anyone ever do this? im really interested in personal feedback. what is the explanation/reason to practice this in tantra?

    ill try and find the answers for my questions online, but would appreciate your input.

    take care all,
    ika
    Everything is energy in movement.
    The word Yoga means union.
    So as far as I can tell Hatha Yoga and some others are practised to get the spine supple and in good condition so that the energy can flow up the spine.
    Look up the micro cosmic orbit (google)
    Tantric can move the the energy in a circle up the male spine and down the female spine or the other way round.
    The breath is used to help focus and energy flows where mind goes.
    Then it is a silent meditation--male and female linked/joined.
    Its never a question of forcing, but becoming more and more aware of the natural movement of energy in the body.
    No end result is looked for.

    The mantra Om Namashivia is helpful to give thanks/surrender to Kundalini.

    I would see Kundalini as separate from Tantra but there is probably a relationship.

    I dont want to go into detail but my own personal experience validated by the recipient, is that love making can happen when a couple are separated by hundreds of miles and it is very real.
    Im not talking about out of body-- I was fully conscious and aware in my own bed.
    Anyway saying no more.

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    Default Re: The Kundalini Is The Holy Spirit! What Your Church Doesn't Want You To Know

    For anyone who might be interested:

    http://kirpalsingh.org/Booklets/Music_of_the_Spheres.pdf

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    Certainly Tantric, which is another interesting topic, recommends semen retention and on the point of ejaculation refraining from that and drawing the energy produced up the spine.
    Chris
    And there are several paths that recommend complete celibacy (often called brahmacharya) but the path I follow doesn't recommend that you deny urges because that usually leads to problems. The good thing is, if the path is legit celibacy will happen naturally because you will lose any desire once you have made fair progress "inside." And there is no denial needed then because if there is no desire then there is nothing to deny.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Anyway saying no more.
    why not?

    haha, but really thank you chris.
    always glad to learn.
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    Im not advocating this ---its just more information

    Chris

    http://www.transients.info/2013/12/a...lini.html#more
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    I really like this thread because I have often wondered if "accepting jesus into your heart" is the same or very similar to metta and the heart chakra. All three of them seem to be largely about compassion, forgiveness and love for everyone. I wonder if ones interpretation isn't largely dependent upon the path they took and how that path described the experience before the experience happened. I might be inclined to think that the experience justified the previous explanation if I were to consider only one path as the ultimate truth. I personally like to think that many paths are pointing at the same truths.

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    Default Re: The Kundalini Is The Holy Spirit! What Your Church Doesn't Want You To Know

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Hi Ika
    I would not be inclined to force anything.
    You will most likely be led to what is best for you.
    Certainly Tantric, which is another interesting topic, recommends semen retention and on the point of ejaculation refraining from that and drawing the energy produced up the spine.

    Best wishes
    Chris
    Hi Greybeard!

    I like your posts and I'm delighted to see another internal alchemist!

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    Quote Posted by teknix (here)
    I really like this thread because I have often wondered if "accepting jesus into your heart" is the same or very similar to metta and the heart chakra. All three of them seem to be largely about compassion, forgiveness and love for everyone. I wonder if ones interpretation isn't largely dependent upon the path they took and how that path described the experience before the experience happened. I might be inclined to think that the experience justified the previous explanation if I were to consider only one path as the ultimate truth. I personally like to think that many paths are pointing at the same truths.
    Hi tenix
    Yes there are probably quite a few paths that lead to the ultimate.
    I prefer the expression, pathless path as its not external to Self.
    Basically what ever works for you.

    Best wishes
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    Certainly Tantric, which is another interesting topic, recommends semen retention and on the point of ejaculation refraining from that and drawing the energy produced up the spine.

    Best wishes
    Chris
    hey all,
    i tried to ankh every now and then for the past 2 weeks again.
    http://toliveconsciously.com/blog/in...m-intructions/

    i still dont seem to get the timing right.
    shortly before climax i focus up the spine and to the heartchakra, but often i already start ejaculating once im at this point.
    this sorta disturbs focus and most of the time my breathing isnt as described and the whole process starts to feel like a house of cards that is collapsing.

    should i just go slower? at what point in the process should i be climaxing exactly? is it ok to ejaculate when ankhing?
    i guess i do loose life energy when ejaculating, but it is still very much what i associate with climaxing, which often seems to disturb actual work or cultivation of sexual energy.

    in short: id appreciate some pointers if possible.
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    Default Re: The Kundalini Is The Holy Spirit! What Your Church Doesn't Want You To Know

    The only suggestion is just before climax stop doing what you are doing, a short while after start again, but stop each time pre climax sensed.
    Obviously you get to sense accurately the moment ejaculation is about to happen with practice, that's after quite a few accidents--smiling.
    When you now have the hang of it, the moment you sense your just about to ejaculate-- tense your buttocks and strongly, using breath, draw the energy up the spine. To be clear you are not drawing semen up the spine--you have halted ejaculation but the energy does get pulled up the spine.
    Hope that helps.

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    it does. thanks again.
    i will practice stopping stimulation pre climax. once my timing is better ill start to, if i understood you right, tense up the pelvic floor muscles, draw focus/energy up to heart.. or did you mean all the way to the crown and release the energy through it?

    when ankhing, where would be the moment of climax or ejaculation? when the energy reenters the heart chakra?
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    Yes, tense up pelvic floor muscles. draw energy up spine, it will go where its supposed to by itself. by momentum. once you get it moving up spine.
    Dont try over hard.
    Dont expect any specific results, but it will improve your health.

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    all in all agreeable, i think.
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    Coming back after a pause, Namaste to old chaps

    Did a new writing including insights received in this forum. Hope you'll enjoy the read:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ln9fse7oq9...ncern.pdf?dl=0
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    Default Re: The Kundalini Is The Holy Spirit! What Your Church Doesn't Want You To Know

    super interesting opinions and information going on in this old thread. Some thoughts,

    1. I miss Finefeather's sensible point of view so well displayed here.

    2. Glorious Poetry's thoughts on Kundalini and Saturn connection are fresh and intriguing to me and I will pursue this info. Thank you.

    3. Jake's experience with Kundalini and for a second becoming a serpent also fascinating. Thank you for sharing. I wonder if he has come to any new insights on the subject. I have followed with interest, the spiritual growth of a young woman online who had a full blown kundalini awakening, unfortunately through the years she has had nothing good come of it. It appears she is now fully 'possessed' by entities who wish to use her to further their agendas.
    “a complete understanding of reality lies beyond the capabilities of rational thought."
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    Lol at some of the responses in this thread.

    I, I , I... Me, Me, Me.

    Look...

    If anyone here has Truly experienced Kundalini, the last thing in the world they would be doing is bragging about it... especially on a forum.

    In addition, they would be warning others instead of encouraging.

    This is how one knows who is telling the Truth or not.

    Those of you that have experienced becoming a walking 'Weapon of Mass Destruction' know what I'm talking about.

    The Government doesn't play games when it comes to this.

    Good luck.

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    Default Re: The Kundalini Is The Holy Spirit! What Your Church Doesn't Want You To Know

    There is a lot of misconception regarding Kundalini. Most of the teachers in the west who claim to be kundalini instructors are anything but and are not qualified to teach as they have no real understanding.

    One basic fact regarding kundalini, if you can raise it, and maintain its flow properly, you will develop siddhis and ultimately become a living buddha.

    It however is not the indian term analogous with the holy spirit. The Indian term loosely referring to the same concept is atma or atman.
    "You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go..."
    — Dr. Seuss

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